John did you happen to see today's news? This great govt program is hardly solvent. Good thing you think that newspaper story from the 30's was so false...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/busine...

raf,
keep up the good work. you know you're making sense when the libs get all in a lather. and man are they lathered up!

Badgerllvr says -- "..It's inevitable that the pendulum swings both ways. The Republicans had 8 yrs. to improve our society and messed it up. It all started with WMD, if you recall. "W" had his chance. Don't you think that the other side deserves a chance? If this Health Care issue is unfair or causes a calamity, I suspect that the Republicans will get another chance. Until then, we'll just have to wait and see. ...... I don't think either party is perfect. I do however like to analyze both sides of an issue. As for this piece of legislation, I agree with the Democrats."

I do not believe our nation can any longer tolerate this 'pendulum' type of ppolitical governance. It's akin to the buy and hold concept in the stock market. It's a 2 step forward and three step backwards process.

It is time for some rules -- 1) NO more one party rule or super majority in Congress. 2) No more 'career' politicians, at any level - local, county, state, or federal. One term and they are out. 3) No more two part control -- elect independents who can help bridge the two parties philosophically to help us create more centrist focused programs and laws.

For 230 years our nation has been led by DINOs or RINOs and look at where we have arrived. Both parties are equally responsible for this mess.

25 - 30 million of us are unemployed. Our nations debt is 13 trillion dollars and growing. Our debt grows at a rate of 46 billion dollars a day in interest. We export almost $700 billion LESS product than we import. 30 million of us who did not have helath insurance will now have coverage paid for by the taxpayers adding a few trillion dollars to our national debt. On and on and on.

We're a nation that is spiritually pessimistic, financially stressed, morally skeptical and politcally divided.

We're an accident waiting to happen.

Change is never easy. I know -- I have lead my share of signifcant changes affecting corporate business processes and corporate culture. Resistance is prevalent, and expected. Buy in is also recommended. And I have learned that the initial change is never permanent .. revisions are to be expected.

I don't know why democrats in Washington fear obtaining buy in of their new processes or fear making revisions to their new ideas that will help achieve a broader consensus and buy in.

Are the democrats really that arrogant and self centered?

Nice language for someone complaining of others. Where did you get they were my supporters? Were they carrying signs with my name on them?

For all you know they could have been Canadians...that is the issue. There is no video there are no interviews. We are left with speculation and hyperbole, on who they were, not to mention idiot posters without a clue. It is always easier to deal in facts, minus facts you have conjecture...this you are good at.

RetiredDimWit: How do you try and explain the racial slurs and homophobia comments by your supporters? That sure has to make you proud.

Interesting how people twist facts like baby killer from what was really said..."its a baby killer" in reference to the presidental memo.

Facts are always better than partisan banter.

“In the heat and emotion of the debate, I exclaimed the phrase ‘it’s a baby killer’ in reference to the agreement reached by the Democratic leadership,”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/03/22...

Sure wish there was real news coverage, to include video evidence or even an interview of the person(s) accused of saying these things...be very interesting to see their connection with the events of the day.

Did anyone else see the picture on the front page of USA Today? Its all the liberals standing together with a look on their faces of what have we done. Of course it was 1 am in the morning maybe they just were stunned after drinking the kool aid

"I decided to contribute $50 to the Democratic Party...in your name. Thought you'd like to know."
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Do you always lie, or just when you post on these blogs?

badgerlvr If this bill turns out to be a bust which most think it will. There is nothing anyone can do about it. Harry Reid put a poison pill line in there. Stating no changes can be made to this health care bill by any future house or senate. so thanks to Harry and the rest of the liberal socialists we are stuck with this monkey that 57% of Americans did not want. The democrats will pay a huge price in November for not listening to the American voter. I don't wish for an early fall but November cannot come quick enough. Now that they have screwed those of us that are still working do you think they can turn some attention to JOBS so the pain can be spread equally...after all that is the liberal socialist way

I'll NEVER see social security bennies... Basically, by the time I retire, it will be bankrupt. From my high school civics/gov't class, our teacher told us that we were paying for the benefits our parents and grandparents received.

My father worked 45 years for a company that actually still honors their pension fund. Without that, I think they would be living with me! SS pays a pittance of what someone needs to eek out a living.

I also read recently, the majority of people close to retirement have only $10,000 set aside. Those of us who have saved all our adult lives with IRA's and 401K's... took such a hit these past 2 or 3 years, that we may have to work 10 years longer than we wanted. Hubby and I lost half our investments before we could pull & secure them!

I don't expect to see ANY SS funds, when I retire in the next 15 years.

It is funny when Mr. Eyster is talking about somebody elses hard earned money, he is all for spreading it around. But when it came to grades in his class, why didn't he take the A's that people earned and spread them to the people who got F's and then everybody earned a C in his class? Same principle....

booch11: It's inevitable that the pendulum swings both ways. The Republicans had 8 yrs. to improve our society and messed it up. It all started with WMD, if you recall. "W" had his chance. Don't you think that the other side deserves a chance? If this Health Care issue is unfair or causes a calamity, I suspect that the Republicans will get another chance. Until then, we'll just have to wait and see. You may be interested in knowing that I've donated to the Republican Party in the past. I don't think either party is perfect. I do however like to analyze both sides of an issue. As for this piece of legislation, I agree with the Democrats.

badgerlvr,
seeing that democrats have had a super-majority for over a year and were unable to pass healthcare without resorting to the nuclear option, i hardly see this as a "win" for your party.
even the most liberal pollsters reported huge opposition.
we'll see in november.
better round up your ideologue friends -- get them all to donate in RAF's name too. You're gonna need all the help you can get!

social security = 38 trillion unfunded liability.
our lawmakers have stolen from this fund for decades.
my. eysner, holding up social security (as libs do medicare) should hardly be your model for healthcare.
but then, you're smarter than all of us and believe the government is more capable of spending our money than we are.

RetiredAirForce: After yesterday's resounding defeat of the Conservative agenda, I decided to contribute $50 to the Democratic Party...in your name. Thought you'd like to know.

Mr Eyster should go back and watch the tape from Washington Seminar 1987. When asked about Social Secuiry, then Senator Bill Proxmire waved his hand saying there were trillions of dollars in the Social Security trust fund and it was solid for hundreds of years with no need for concern. I would appear John Eyster is now drinking the nanny state kool-aid Proxmire was swollowing then.

Speaking of comics...

gpawcat The deficit might be 29 billion in a few years but what they forgot to add into that was SS has more than triple that in amount owed to it in IOU's that the government gave them when they stole the money for general revenue.

What a hoot! Some posters think you're a Conservative while others think you're a Liberal. I've been reading your blogs for some time now and you do flip-flop back and forth depending on the issue. Don't listen to the nay-sayers and continue to write what you believe. The responses are better than a comic strip.

When medicare was voted in it was supposed to pay for it self with the withholding taxes. Somehow that program is bust and cost is costing 8X what was originally estimated. Same senerio for SS. Now watch the deficites SOAR. Remember the US currently has to borrow the money to pay the interest on our debt already.

John..... Your Ultra liberal views are screaming loud and clear. The scariest thing is, that this guy folks, is someone who is teaching our kids ! No freaking wonder we're headed down the destructive well worn path to Socialism.
John, take a hike....Maybe obammommamma has a job for you!

interestng gpawcat, I have never seen that before.

The Galveston Texas county employees opted out of Social Security back in the early 80's. Instead of sending the money to Washington where the money ended up in general revenues for congress to spend, the Texas employees put the withholding wages into a fix rate guaranteed annuities of about 6.5%. The county employees that earned $51000 a year, gets $3103 per month, compared to SS $1368. Those earning $75,000 a year a worker gets almost triple of what SS pays, $4540 a Month compared to SS $1645.
Survivorship; Four times a workers salary and they don't have to wait to age 60.
Two other Texas counties opted out of Social Security before Congress slammed the door in 1982.

Social Security is a Ponzi scheme, it DOES need to be repealed. Bernie Madoff has nothing on our US government.

Just announced this week. Social Security will run a deficit of 29 billion this year. The deficit wasn't supposed to hit until 2017.
With 10,000 boomers signing up each day with full benefits starting Jan 1, 2012. The government announced last year the program is unsustainable. But we won't have to worry about it until we start running deficits.

John considering your partisan views it it no wonder you glossed over the important points from the 1938 newspaper you linked to.

Like this gem. "I am not exaggerating the folly of this legislation. The saving it forces on our workers is a cruel hoax. There is every probability that the cash they pay in will be used for current deficits and new extravagances. We are going to have trouble enough to carry out an economy program without having the treasury flush with money drawn from the workers. Personally, I do not want the treasury flush with trust funds, funds which the trustee can mingle with its own general funds."

John if you read these insightful comments perhaps you would see what concerned them is exactly what happened. A wise man gathers all information and makes decisions based on facts not emotions...that kind of man would also never say a group of people expressing freedom of speech are undermining our nation.

John your consistent partisan postings are beginning to drone, similar to columns by Rick Horowitz. The difference, his at times are entertaining.