Answering questions on new trash hauling

By GREG PECK ( Contact )   Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 3:03 p.m.

Last week The Gazette printed another front-page story explaining more details about the city's switch to single-stream recycling this October. I still had a few unanswered questions. Fortunately, Peter Riggs, the city's assistant operations director, answered them by email.

First, those new wheeled, 95-gallon trash bins seem enormous for a two-person household like mine. My wife and I saw both the 95-gallon one and the 65-gallon one. We contacted the city before the June 11 deadline (the city needed a deadline so it could order proper quantities of each) for requesting a smaller one. We figure the smaller one will work fine for recyclables. Still, our garage is small, and I still haven't figured out how we're going to squeeze the big one into it as well as our two vehicles, a lawn mower and a gas grill. Because my wife questioned whether we'd even need the larger one for trash, I asked Riggs to respond.

"Different households have different volumes of waste generation. Some households will never generate 95 gallons of waste, but other households may never generate less than 65 gallons. The month of October is the 'trial' period for the 95-gallon cart, meaning that if you use the default 95-gallon cart in the month of October and you still don’t want it, we will exchange your 95-gallon cart for a 65-gallon cart free of charge in November."

The city, Riggs wrote, strongly encourages residents to try the 95-gallon cart to see if it will work.

"Remember, there is no drawback to only partially filling a 95-gallon cart, but there is a drawback if you select a 65-gallon cart and run out of space for all of your waste."

(No drawback, perhaps, if you have a large enough garage or don't mind having the big thing sitting in the yard).

Second, I asked Riggs what would become of all those used green recycling bins residents have now. Might the city offer a spot to collect and recycle them, or perhaps sell them to some other community to offset costs of this new garbage plan?

Responded Riggs: "Residents can keep their 18-gallon recycling bins if they so choose. They are a handy size, and when cleaned out they are great for use as storage containers."

Residents who don't want to keep the bins may recycle them by placing them inside the new 65- or 95-gallon recyclables carts. The city earns revenue from the sale of this material, Riggs noted.

"Selling the bins to another community for use in curbside collection is not cost-effective or realistic," Riggs wrote. "We would have to collect the containers, organize them, clean them, package them and ship them. I imagine that any potential revenue generated from this sale would not be greater than the labor costs. I also imagine that another community would not be interested in purchasing used containers that are branded with the city of Janesville’s logo and our specific program information. The best option for generating revenue is to recycle them as part of our curbside collection program as detailed above."

Third, I asked Riggs about situations where I might have company or clean house and need more bin space. "Can I set out both my regular trash bin AND fill and set out the one for recyclables (whether same size or smaller) on the collection date/week opposite recycling week?"

Responded Riggs: "Unfortunately, no, trash will only be collected from the designated trash cart. There isn’t a practical way to inform the collection operator that your “recyclables” cart was filled with trash and intended for trash collection.

"Holidays, spring cleaning, and company are all great examples of when your waste volume may exceed your average. You want to make sure that the cart you choose will be able to hold the waste generated during these high-volume situations. Remember, we will only be able to collect the material that is inside the cart. You will want a cart large enough to meet your collection needs for the peak volume of your household and not the average. We strongly encourage residents to use the 95-gallon option as this will minimize the occasions where they run out of space to dispose of waste. Not all households will fill a 95-gallon cart each week, but that’s OK!"

Riggs also noted that if you don't have enough space in your cart, you can:

  1. Ask if you can put your additional waste in a neighbor's cart.

  2. Hold the extra waste until your next scheduled collection.

  3. Take the waste to the sanitary landfill or a local recycling center as appropriate.

  4. Order an additional 95-gallon cart or upgrade to a 95-gallon cart if you start off using a 65-gallon cart.

Finally, I relayed a question posed by a reader. After the city delivers the new trash containers, will it come around with dump trucks and pick up our old trash cans and recycle them?

Wrote Riggs: "We have not yet decided on how to direct citizens to dispose of their old trash containers. Most likely we will offer drop-off sites. Recycling is the best disposal option, but it has some challenges. Once determined, we will publicize the disposal options."

I hope these answer some of the questions you might have, as well.

Greg Peck can be reached at (608) 755-8278 or gpeck@gazettextra.com. Or follow him on Twitter or Facebook

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helpwithjunk
Jun 24, 2012 at 10:02 p.m.
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I ll just use a trash removal service like this [http://www.trashremovalindianapolis.com]

saxcat70
Jun 21, 2012 at 11:06 a.m.
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garbageman, garbageman. everybody underestimates the garbageman. who knows what the garbageman knows about you???? you throw it away, he picks it up. who knows????

frogger
Jun 21, 2012 at 9:11 a.m.
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maybe I will make a rain barrel out of mine ;)

frogger
Jun 21, 2012 at 8:58 a.m.
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Put your old trash can in the recycle bin. Most are 50gallon and will fit in these new bins.

gwendt
Jun 21, 2012 at 7:31 a.m.
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a lot of places dont have a level lawn...wouldn't the trash can roll down the slope further? in winter, besides shovelong the sidewalk, u gonna have to shovel the snow bank the plows leave behind? wouldnt the angle of the trash can hinder the pickup arm?

Nelle
Jun 21, 2012 at 6:31 a.m.
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I believe Fort Atkinson also offers the three sizes - I (and my garage) would love that small 35 gallon size!

ChsMkr
Jun 20, 2012 at 10:57 p.m.
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The Monroe Times reported today that the City of Monroe is offering their residents three size options: 35, 65, and 95 gallons. Sounds to me like their council and managers understand and value the needs of the households a bit more than our officials.

bassman
Jun 20, 2012 at 8:10 p.m.
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If I may add something more,those who do choose a larger can fine,but I will bet my right arm that 2 out of ten houses will have an extra bag lying on the ground,what we did was charge them 1 buck a bag, they learned after awhile,but wow there was so much denial and bickering it was not worth the effort of trying to collect,you just dealt with it.Residents are not going to save it for the next week either,that is a joke,asking a neighbor will be a slim chance too! I am not trying to be negative,I am giving some insight from experience. Every job has it's downfalls,but all of these little so called illegal procedures will add 1 to 2 hours on a day.Oh wait until they start filling them with fresh green grass,got to love that !

baegucb
Jun 20, 2012 at 7:51 p.m.
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Since my trash cans are about 7 years old, and the handles are starting to tear, I'm looking forward to new trash containers. What I'm not looking forward to is cleaning out the garage to make room.

bassman
Jun 20, 2012 at 7:44 p.m.
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Greg if I can give you some insight on this system. I personally drove this type of trash truck for 15 years,we called them side loaders.
Our company at the time had over 70,000 homes to pick up in a week,we had 11 side loaders that averaged 400 to 500 houses a day,the rest were picked up by rear load trucks. We also had 1 can for each home @90 gal,additional cans could be used at each home for an added cost, for the larger families ,we also had a facility that separated all of the trash or sorted it,trash went one way and ,recyclables the other, everything went into one can. The system worked very well,but we had to do a survey in every area where we could allocate these cans,why ? very simple , trees. These trucks can reach out approximately 5 to 6 feet,at least they did then,when you have a heavily wooded city such as Janesville they will not be worth the effort and expense. There are areas in JVL they would work such as the N.E around Home Deopot,Wright road and a few others,and scattered sections abroad. In most cases however the driver will be getting out to retrieve the can place in the strike zone,dump it and leave,will he or she get out and put it back ? NO,trust me it wont happen. Then you have a certain way the can has to be placed at the curb,hinge has to go to the house so the can will open freely to into the truck,if not when the arm goes to place the can back all of the trash will set on the lid and it will spray it everywhere. It takes skill to be able to operate these trucks and many tricks that will have to be learned as well. I would love to get back into one,but it would have be managed properly or it will be a nightmare. I wish the city well in this fiasco.Just my little opinion.

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