I will wait until the FEDS complete the investigations!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mean time my best word would be against... and I only say that based on his childish approach to solving Wisconsins problems.

Walker has done a lot he never mentioned he would do, and hasn't done what he promised: bring jobs to Wisconsin. Our neighbors to our east are recovering faster than we, but we remain behind even then. Where are these high-paying, family sustaining jobs? We've lost jobs under him.

Against.
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Scott Walker is not a leader of people, he is a divider of the populace.
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Scott Walker lets his press secretary (the one granted immunity under a criminal John Doe investigation) do his talking, which are half-a**ed excuses and revisionist history.
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Scott Walker will never take your personal call, but he will take one right now from out-of-stater willing to write a BIG CHECK.
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Scott Walker is not a statesman, he is a career politician.
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Scott Walker promised you jobs, but he spends his time out of state collection contributions so he can save his own job.
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Indictments and the John Doe hangs over his head.
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Wisconsin put a clown in office that reminds me of Mel Brooks' "Governor" character in "Blazing Saddles" playing paddle ball with his pants around his knees.
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All I am saying is we deserve better than Scott Walker.

Anyone undermining the ability to attract and retain quality educators will not receive my vote.

fear.....I just posted it for a chuckle. Some folks have their panties bunched a little to tight to let it go for that I guess. And who said anything about corruption in government...oh that's right. you. good luck with those anger management classes.

"You include other parts of the poll and leave out that very key detail, why?"

* Welcome to the Janesville Gazette *

Mr Peck,
Please tell us why in your article/blog you fail to post the statistics about disagreement with cutting education funding. You include other parts of the poll and leave out that very key detail, why? The polling on that issue is very telling as well.

•38 percent favored and 55 percent opposed limiting the number of people eligible for the BadgerCare health assistance program
•29 percent favored and 65 percent opposed reductions in state aid to public school

Pretty key issues to just leave out, dont you think?

Sax - a football game to corruption in government? Id say apples to oranges, but they are atleast both fruit!! Bad, bad analogy, try again please.

Greg,

Why is it that you and your paper refuse to condemn the thuggish behavior of your fellow right-wing extremists? Why no condemnation of the destruction of recall petitions? How about the death threats made toward petition circulators? How about the rock (attached to a right-wing political message) thrown through the window of a recall-backing Madison business? How about the violent rhetoric ("And when we get done, they are going to be black and blue!") employed by former Governor Tommy Thompson at a recent pro-Walker rally? Do you endorse these behaviors? If not, why have you not condemned them?

I am a proud Democrat who backs the recall effort, but I am willing criticize and condemn those with whom I agree politically who engage in counterproductive and uncivil behaviors. I'd like to see you and your paper do the same.

Mouse: No, I don't believe President Obama always gets proper respect either. Columnist Esther Cepeda just wrote about this in a piece she sent us yesterday, and we discussed the similarities by email. That column will be on tomorrow's Gazette Opinion page and is already posted on our website.
Greg Peck

@garyprimer- No, not Morrison- Billy Joel " We didn't start the fire".

And MIdnight would you please adress nearly the same opposition to cutting school funding? Or is that just the white elephant in the room to both you and the author of this blog.

"The poll also showed 74 percent of respondents favored and 22 percent opposed requiring state workers to pay more for pension and health benefits."

Do you think those tantrums show favorable any where else in the state? ONLY in Madison.
In Rice Lake they are asking what planet are they from? And why are more of my tax dollars being wasted by these people?

We like the new direction and will fight hard to Retain Walker.

Jim Morrison was right...

Any constructive or Pro-Walker comments almost immediately lead the union lemmings to follow the follower-mindless-cantthiinkforthemselvels-lemmings off the cliff into the ocean of deceit. The anti-walker crowd gets smaller every day.

RECALL WALKER!

@saxcat- RE; your earlier post about recall people being scared. I think it IS just you who thinks that. I'm not seeing it.

nugnrose....."these streets are now all empty, the bars have all closed down!"

saxcat70 - Why are you worried about the Packer game? You're a Bears fan. :-)

Greg,
I'd have to say you appear to be easily impressed.
1) A standing ovation? I assume you checked the credentials of all that attended, they were all Wisconsin "school board members, district administrators and school business managers", right? Funny how we're hearing from these same ovation givers that Walker's "tools" will do them no good in the future. And a governor in trouble over his education spending cuts would never think of inviting a friendly crowd to this little get together.
2) The Marquette poll. Did you take the time to read their full discloser? A quick read shows they don't reveal WHERE the phone calls were placed to; Statewide? A particular area code? Just the City of Waukesha? Demographics is a wonderful thing when your intent is to slant a poll.
3) Those darn protesters! " foolishness, disrespect for the office and lack of civil discourse " Walker gets exactly what he gives, he owes Wisconsin's citizens respect but must earn his, he's done neither. Maybe while you're at it you can explain to us why the Walker Administration made only 12 gallery seats available to the general public, you know, the general public Walker is supposed to represent.

purrrrrr

Sexcat....... maybe a Fed investigation into the "Walker" ticket sale first?
I'm sure the gate numbers were wrong too......
just ask nichalaus.

I do not like the outcome of the Packer game on Sunday January 15th 2012 and DEMAND a REPLAY.
The New York Giants did not allow the Packers to score enough points during the allotted time.
If we can collect signatures to equal 1/2 the capacity of Lambeau Field we can force the NFL to arrange for a REPLAY of the game.
When we have the required signatures then we can file them with the NFL to force them into another NFC Divisional Playoff game on the grounds that I am unhappy that my team lost.

In the New Wisconsin Recall Tradition, please pass this along to ensure we have enough signatures.

Is it just me, or are the recall supporters starting to sound scared. they are starting to realize that, despite a lack of tantrums and ridiculousness, there are millions of people in this great state who support our governor and his MOS. I'm just short of making a victory speech, but I'm fine tuning it.

Against!!

I'm quite proud of the 14 runners. They took it upon themselves to act in a legal manner to block legislation. History in the making. I wish more people stood up for their beliefs- legally that is.

I'll take (1) Walker over (14) runners.

Dont need analogies Sigma to understand that the contentions about "standing ovations" at the conference in question here are wildly overstated to make a political point.
A standing O would include everyone in the room, or a wild ovation for him. The fact is that it just didnt happen that way. I guess some of the folks in the room maybe even half stood for him, but try again to remember that school board members across the state are of the likes of a few previously named ones here that are simple idealogues that have very little if any interest in what's best for educating kids. Getting 20% vote to stay on the School board isnt too hard to do in any community. Which is the problem with how these people get elected. There will always be 20% that vote for guys like Bill S because they believe the same things ideologically that he does. No matter how democratic Janesville is (about 60/40 blue). so for anyone to act like this type of standing O means much is someone playing an ideological tune, plain and simple. Lets see him go to a WEAC conference and not get tomatoes thrown at him. Does anyone think he really has that type of courage? I certainly don't!!

justmy414 - I dont see any officers that will shoot you on the spot if you dont honor him. Dont worry that shadow wont hurt you, its your own. Got any more dumb analogies?

Hitler got standing ovations when talking to the SS troops. That didn't make him right.

""And now the chest thumping immature individuals are starting to show up here on the website to spread their lies and try to dispense of any bit of truth that they are apposed to.""

First off Bellagio its opposed, but I am no spelling chump but whhatever. Second, you may not like my links but people from both sides of every argument use POLITIFACT to look into the factual end of an argument. Instead of blind rhetoric, maybe looking around into some facts might help you out in making a legitimate point.

walker is out the door

Oh really bellagiobound- LIES? He didn't hire his friends? ( public record). He didn't appoint a criminal to take over Vets money? ( public record). He hasn't thrown this state into hateful chaos ( 1,000,000 signature opinion and public record). I'll add here the number of people under his "command" in Milwaukee who have been arrested for criminal behavior. This is not a leader and frankly he deserves the sentiment he gets from the public. Where have you been?

I'd say a large percentage of the recall signers were just people who did so by hearing the exaggerated bad from those who hate him. Some of the stories people told me to try and get me to jump on the hate train made me laugh... It was a huge hyped up media event, thats all the recall party collecting signatures. I think if people took the time to do some research they would open their eyes.
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As for him working for or against the people... If im a "people" I want tax free everything and super high wages.. so if hes against it and for the better financial being of our state... then yes hes against people.

Civil discourse? Oh you mean like the cigarettes for signatures scandal you tried to ramp up personally? You don't want it to get personal? Don't make it personal, and unfortunately for Scott he and higroup of cronies have made it personal.

@fearandrhetoric- I can tell you what he's done. He's initiated extreme chaos and hatred into this state by shreading the fabric of our society- the people providing services to our communities. He has appointed his friends and in at least one case, a contributors son, to high paid positions in the state. He has taken away an important job of managing Veterans Programs monies from a Vet Organization and put it into the hands of a person who has been arrested for helping himself to some of it. The list could go on and on... and on but you get my drift.

"I believe this foolishness, disrespect for the office and lack of civil discourse will do nothing to sway residents to vote against Walker whenever a recall election comes."

I agree, and the screamer librarian should be ASHAMED of herself, what an example she sets.

They call him a liar because he is one. Balanced budget? LIE
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/prom...

Oppose and veto all tax increases? LIE
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/prom...

With total power in legislature he said he would repeal 2009 income tax increase on wealthy tax payers?NOPE
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/prom...

Will "strip policy and pork projects from the state budget. The budget process should be about funding essential government services based on the taxpayers’ ability to pay." FALSE:
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/prom...

Never raid funds for other programs? FALSE
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/prom...

Could someone tell me what he has done? Because I honestly don't know.

Greg,
Standing ovation? Certainly NOT from everyone there, as I have a few friends that were in ATTENDENCE and others who have a little inside knowledge and there certainly wasn't an overwhelming ovation from those in attendance, and those there certainly didn't agree with his cuts to education. Of course when you get into a room full of school board members around the state , try to remember that many of them are like Bill S and DuWayne S in Janesville, that have political reasons for being there , and certainly not educational ones.
Of course Mr Pecck you failed to realize that the respondents in the poll where almost 70% OPPOSED to the governors draconian cuts to education (1.6 billion) in his budget. WHy did you fail to mention those numbers since this particular blog is addressing education , maybe you should try to address those numbers in that EXCAT SAME POLL!! My God!! Another partisan blogger? Interesting how you conveniently left out some things. Glad to help you convey all the facts , not just cherry picking.

Greg........ what was the backbone of your job, before computors?
Maybe you should turn your story into a double standard.....
Question for you Greg.... You think the President of the United States is being given proper respect?
Then the issue of the balcony....... you know for a fact that Walker didn't plan any of this for marketing? I thought you might have more smarts, but one can never tell. (without investigating)

tthompson

Why not go online and see for yourself, instead of calling people liars.

I mean 'Smacks"...I was taught by a union teacher...sorry

What do you have to say, Greg, about the Walker supporters who tried to steal recall forms?

Well look who showed up on here "Fedup" What time does your shift end?
I guess a little seed plant is sufficient by you though. Right?
Fedup.... bought and paid for or employed by who?

Once Scott Walker smakes down this union tantrum, he should move to make Wisconsin a RIGHT TO WORK state. Thus leaving the unions in a rotting state of decay... Oh wait, that's redundant.

Like most Wisconsinites, I support Governor Walker. If he survives the recall election, I would expect him to finish eradicating the state of the unruly and unsavory public unions.

Wouldn't it be nice if independents and Democrats could find a candidate worthy of their support. The same tiresome list is not very appealing to the average voter. Walker has contributed to great turmoil in our state and has hired people of very questionable character. His trust level is very low and it even discredits reputations of other politicians in the state. Without credible adversaries what are the chances of meaningful reform in our state? More of the same is not acceptable as Wisconsin moves forward.

This is basically Custer’s Last Stand for the unions. If Walker survives the recall, it sends a clear signal that most citizens are tired of watching public unions suck up tax dollars and invest them in political platforms they find abhorrent; that they expect public employees to pay their fair way for health care and retirement; and they find the alternating goon-like and childish behaviour of unions to be disgusting. It will also embolden other states to start reining in their own runaway public unions. It will, more than anything else, show the enormous contrast of Wisconsin balancing their budget and becoming fiscally responsible, and Illinois continuing to increase spending of money they don’t have. If Walker wins, expect to see more business heading north across the border.

But the unions have a real quandary, because they not only want to get rid of Walker, they also want to re-elect Obama. Both will be uphill battles. Where will their invest their diminishing war chest?

Either way, expect commercial television to become unwatchable in the coming months, as attack ads from both sides gain momentum. And expect more rude, childish behaviour from the recall folks. Which is fine, because it will certainly help sway votes towards Walker.

I see WISlady and Fedup are back on the job today. Nice work.

Another fact learned from the anti-recall posters.....it is much easier to reach 1 Million anti-recall comments if you make stuff up.

Another fact learned from the recall petitions.....it is must easier to reach 1 Million is you use a copy machine.

Greg,
I'm an dependent. Not sure if I will vote for Walker in three years,but without a doubt I vote against the recall.

Wahoo - the answer is of course - WITH and for the betterment.

Better question: Is Walker working with the people of Wisconsin or against?

"why did he get standing ovations from some 2,000 school board members, district administrators and school business managers at this convention?"

Because they are the ones that have to balance the budget and work with finances. The change in benefits gives them additional money to help balance budgets.

I agree that the childish protest behavior is not going to sway voters to recall Walker, and that they are an embarrassment to Wisconsin's image. I would especially expect teachers to show mature behavior in public forums. Did their teachers fail to teach them about Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, and civil disobedience?

Whether you approve of Walker or not, throwing tantrums, tossing beer, or screeching from the gallery creates news stories with a very negative image of Wisconsin to investors and employers. I certainly hope there were no civics or history teachers behaving like that. If I had kids, I'd certainly be considering private schools.

It will be even more interesting as the petitions for all the recalls are scrutinized. So far, we have discovered that E.T. is alive and living in Milwaukee.

Greg - Everyone knows what is going on here. This is a UNION driven fight for them to regain lost Power. Especially the payroll deducted union dues. I believe that they have a real fight on their hands. People have developed a real disdain for their tactics.
My vote will be for Walker.

I agree Greg. Despite what I think of Walker I still respect him & think he deserves respect. However so many people don't have an ounce of respect for anything or anyone anymore. Many years ago I had to stop on the interstate for George W's motorcade. A relative of mine said, "I would never do such thing." I told her I had to because the road was closed to allow for the motorcade to pass. Despite how I felt about him I was still in awe to see the Presidential motorcade. It's not something you see every day & it was a proud moment despite that I didn't support his views.