Garyprimer, correct. I'm referring to the U.S. constitution. I'm also stating that the principles in the U.S. constitution apply to STATE as well.

First of all, recalls should be more difficult for those in legislature that flee there job or drive drunk but not for taking a popular vote. Second we "the citizens" should never allow our rights to be taken from us like the right to vote for a Supreme Court Justice. And my third comment on this story is the GAB is no more useful then the old elections board except it is Doyle's appointed Democrat judge friends and Walker should get rid of it.

I think that we are talking about the Constitution of the State of Wisconsin.
This document was written in 1847.
Ben Franklin died in 1788, so I sincerely doubt that he had any comment on it.

Why yes it is johnwicket. Our forefathers were great thinkers and made the constitution something to last throughout the ages. As Ben Franklin said, "she'll remain a republic if you can keep it"...... as a nation of people, over the years, we've done a lousy job at doing our part.

Is the constitution a framework upon which we build and attach laws that suit the majority of citizens? We shouldn't knock out main support columns only to use that "excess" lumber as decoration for the exterior of the document. We should not be frivolous in our temporary efforts to fix something which may not need fixing at this time.

dpaynter- Very well said!!!!!! Principles weren't mean to be compromised. Just like "kleej" said, when the foundations are weakened, people will "fall" for anything. Look at what we've done to this country. Our forefathers have to be SPINNING in their graves, not just rolling!

No foundation to stand on anymore. We're falling for anything now. (Some of us are)

Dean Paynter and birdman...You both called me out on nastiness toward Mr. Peck. You are correct in your opinion. I do not agree with his political gauge on things. And I am not alone.
I will say this...I agree with your support of Proartist. She has some really great analysis and it is generally fair and balanced. She normally get's hit hard by people claiming to be freedom fighters, patriots, and all sorts of others obviously far right extremes.
My objection continues to be with Mr. Pecks continues attacks and innuendo and this is just one of many he has used and notably against Democrats. "Fled"? Why not say a quorum rule was used. That's what was used. Mr. Peck seems to be fond of his attacks and this one broke my patience...Sorry if I offended the two of you.

http://rocknetroots.blogspot.com/2010/09...

http://ronjohnsonforsenate.com/home/wp-c...

There are more examples of Mr. Peck's nasty opinions...Just read some back issues. He has a right to do them...he has the "power of the pen".

Now for a comment without tongue in cheek. There have been too many recent amendments. Constitutional amendment is not a substitute for thoughtful, intelligent government.

Dean Paynter

We need to amend the constituiton baring any future change making it a living Constitution, which is a liberal idea to try to outlaw everything and to turn the USA into a UN control country.

"proartist" has it right, in my opinion: "A Constitution...not something that is changed by partisan whims...". Sen. Cullen is out of line, in my opinion, to suggest that we citizens should not be trusted with decisions such as Supreme Court justices. Oh? And what makes him or any other party wonk think that way? Our elected officials do not necessarily have more insight and wisdom on such choices. So give Greg and the rest of us all a break, "Dec92" and leave Holier Than Thou attitudes on your mouse pad. We ALL have our biases, as you should know and accept. Let the voters do the best we can and let the chips fall where they may. I sure don't trust the decision making of a man who cut and ran to Illinois, like a 'Nam era draft dodger fleeing to Canada.

I would like to see a constitutional amendment providing for term limits for the Governor's Office, state Senators and Representatives. I'd also like an amendment requiring a 2/3's majority vote to make any bill become a law.

I suppose an amendment mandating a senate-wide, assembly-wide, or gubernatorial recall vote any time either chamber passes or the Governor signs an budget bill that isn't fully funded would be too much to hope for.

Changing the state constitution takes time. It requires numerous votes and waits for general elections. Unless there is a very high profile issue (and state workers' unions I don't think qualifies), there will be no amendment soon.

1st We need an amendment to the constitution requiring collective bargaining for wages, benefits and working conditions for all non-management public sector employees. "Furthermore the State of Wisconsin encourages collective bargaining in all private sector organizations with greater than 100 employees."

2nd - I'd recommend an amendment outlawing political parties and that any legal status identical or substantially similar to that of political parties shall not be valid or recognized in this state.

3rd - Not a constitutional amendment but just a hope for civility: when we comment we should not hide behind anonymous usernames. We should sign real names. It's easy to be nasty when we hide our identities.
Dean Paynter

So---Greg...Pointing out your bias again? Nobody fled...They used a quorum rule used by both parties in many states at various times. Since you know so little about politics or history perhaps you should consider running against Assemblyman Knilans as a Republican in a primary. At least that way a debate might show which one of you knows the least and serve the area the worst. Are you trying to take over where Conry left off or are you better suited to blog about green beans, spinach, and manure?

It seems many politicians have "pet projects" which they insist require an amended Constitution (ie., removing voting options, limiting reproductive health care) and yet, if they oppose a given issue (ie., collective bargaining, ERA), it's always "too dangerous" to open up the Constitution to change. A Constitution should be vague enough to be a living-breathing document and not something that is changed by partisan whims to become a morass of endless laws and amendments except in instances when it is granting the We The People even more freedoms, more input, and more transparency rather than adding restrictions.