*Instead of an ID, why don't we just give each voter a battery of questions to answer? It could be based on grammar, mathematics, logic, sports knowledge, and possibly a few more random topics. *

Nah, they should just bring back the requirement that one had to own land in order to vote.

Either that or you have to have paid federal income taxes the previous year. No representation without taxation.

jonkon,
Why didn't you bring this to anyone's attention when something could still be done about it? Your story might be true, but then again, I could tell a story about this group of Republicans I overheard laughing about how they conducted surveys and found that while enforcing voter ID at the polls will not stop fraud that doesn't exist anyways, it will cost Democrats a significant percentage of legitimate votes.
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How can voter ID discourage people from voting? It makes it a very formal process, and less human. Ever had a ticket for violating a traffic law? (Asked to anyone, in general.) Did you go to court for the ticket, or just pay? Going to court can help lessen the penalty of the ticket monetarily and/or by point deduction. However, despite knowing this, many people opt out of going to court and simply pay the fine and accept the point deduction. Why? Because people are afraid of the process of going to court.

Requiring an ID at the polls will absolutely turn several people away, just because they don't want to go through the hassle.

Some might argue, but isn't that the person's own fault? Is it not reasonable that if you want to vote (or buy beer, or rent a car, or own a gun, etc) you should have to present ID? No, it is not reasonable. First of all, IDs can be faked fairly easily. Second of all, voter fraud does not exist to the extent where we need that kind of sophisticated screening.

Instead of an ID, why don't we just give each voter a battery of questions to answer? It could be based on grammar, mathematics, logic, sports knowledge, and possibly a few more random topics. The point is not to give the person a grade, but to compare current results with past results. An individual will show a certain trend, and can reasonably be expected to answer roughly the same each year. It's like a personality test. That is better than using an ID that can be faked easily.

But then again, who wants to jump through all of those hoops just to vote?

chett - I'm afraid texas just had their law overturned. Nice try though.

I am an independent voter and I have a right to my opinion; my opinion is that voter ID is necessary. I want it and that is all you need to know.

thekai you will not change my vote nor anyone that are imfomed to know the truth behind your party They are the most bigoted and hateful bunch this country has ever seen and they. The targets are not lazy nor ignorant. If my mother were alive today she would not be able to vote as she was born at home Yes she had a license but her original was from the local police Dept. before they were required through DOT. Get a clue and to those that are less imformed READ UP as there are more sites then just your right winged falsified ones. There are truthful ones if you can comprehend the TRUTH.....

The GOP are the ones that know they can vote illegally and Most likely are guilty of it and that is why they are so hell bent on this law. Besides targeting the minority, poor and elderly as The GOP know they haven't a chance of winning without this. But IMO they won't have a chance either way. teapartysal are you wiscolady?

Thekai - the 300 vote overcount was a personal observation as an election observer during the recount. The action was taken Friday evening after all of the other election observers had left for the day. You wouldn't find any "documentation" on the incident since the GAB was deliberately covering up their own culpability in failing to exercise proper oversight in the conduct of City of Milwaukee elections. The Proesser officials were only interested in "preserving the status quo," and did not pursue the matter any further. What "documentation" that does exist would be in comparing the minutes from the City of Milwaukee to those of other counties. Whereas other counties list before and after tabulations, with an explanation of discrepancies, the City of Milwaukee only lists the final results for each precinct.

There were two separate incidents during the same election in the same, relatively small, precinct. One voter was almost denied her right to vote, while a second, ineligible voter, illegally voted.

I became active in the issue of election fraud because both my father and mother-in-laws voted after they were dead, while my step-grandfather voted three times after he had died.

Good grief Fedup, did you loose your crossword puzzle book again ?

teapartysal said, "I challenge you to name names. Name one person that you KNOW FOR A FACT DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A REQUIRED DOCUMENT, AND HAS BEEN GETTING TO THE POLLS ALL ALONG AND VOTING."

"Ruthelle Frank, 84, of Brokaw, Wisc., has been voting since 1948, but she doesn't have a birth certificate, and under Wisconsin's new voter suppression law she's unable to obtain an ID so that she can vote." [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ay-aK_Wz... ]

Pull that tri-cornered hat up from over your eyes. I've mentioned Ruthelle for several months -- dozens of times.

The left's argument of suppression falls flat when not one case of suppression in any state requiring ID has ever been found. This is just more of their pattern of fear peddling like pushing grandma off the cliff, taking away your social security, not feeding your kids, and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

for all those who claim voter id would prevent people from voting because they do not have or could not get the proper documents, I challenge you to name names. Name one person that you KNOW FOR A FACT DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A REQUIRED DOCUMENT, AND HAS BEEN GETTING TO THE POLLS ALL ALONG AND VOTING.

ninja11 said, "End of story, End of discussion."

I guess not.

ninja11 said, "If there is only one case of fraud, That is to much."

And if to eliminate that one case of fraud means that 100 otherwise eligible voters can not vote, is it still worth it? You do realize that the voter ID law is not designed or intended to prevent all types of fraud, right?

Guess not. Not unless she showed her Idaho ID. LOL

Is this the voter fraud the Repubs are so fond of talking about? LOL

http://www.wkow.com/story/19355367/lawma...

fordfan: If you really cared about protecting someones vote why are you condemming those who want votes protected?

How does showing a ID discourage voters from voting? If there is only one case of fraud, That is to much. With no ID it is really very hard to document. All you need to do is look at Racine County with the last Election and try to convince me that no Fraud took place when there was so much termiol. Why, VOTER ID WOULD END ALL QUESTIONS. End of story, End of discussion.

Thanks for clearing that up, chett. Personally, I would recommend avoiding making blanket statements. As was just demonstrated, they can be interpreted in many ways, and can really discredit your argument.

"To say minorities and the elderly are to lazy or stupid to go find an hour to go to the DMV is just insulting. If you are that lazy or do not want to put in the effort to obtain the proper ID you need in life maybe you shouldn't be voting." You are the one calling the elderly and the minorities "lazy" and "stupid" - not us who really care about their rights. After all the explaining that has been done about the issue involved with getting everyone the proper ID, your response is to call the elderly and minorities lazy and stupid. I can see more clearly the Republican Jim Crow world now. You worked for the tag and you asked for the tag - wear it proudly, Mr Crow!

Chett,
You lost all credibility when you said a left leaning GAB and judges support voter fraud.

Voter fraud does not exist at the magnitude that many supporters of voter ID seem to think it does. It just doesn't. What is true, is that a voter ID law will discourage people from voting. Even people who already possess a valid ID.

If the amount of fraud prevented by voter ID is less than the number of people who are discouraged by voter ID and therefore do not vote, then voter suppression has been accomplished.

Why does anyone want to discourage anyone else from voting? That is true voter fraud.

I should add this. I know a lot of my comments throw out the words "left leaning" I do suspect voter fraud on all sides. I'm NOT accusing dems of being the only "cheaters"

thekai: That's the problem with voter fraud. It's so hard to prove and with a GAB that leans left and left leaning judges its an uphill battle. Plus it is a lot of "he said she said". In a day where ID's are common place I just don't see it as an inconvenience. To say minorities and the elderly are to lazy or stupid to go find an hour to go to the DMV is just insulting. If you are that lazy or do not want to put in the effort to obtain the proper ID you need in life maybe you shouldn't be voting. No, I will not answer the $500 question because that is theoretical.

They say "They would have to scamble" What a line BS, You could have them informed in less than 5 minutes. Really ?

chett,
I completely agree about the dead voting. But where is the evidence of this being an actual problem, and not just theoretical?

Do you care to answer my question? Do you think more people would show up to vote if there was a $500 check for everyone who votes?

I should also point out that where voter id laws have been inacted there is surveys that point to increased minority turn out.. and don't ask for articles lol your on a computer google it ;)

thekai: Voter fraud is as simple as looking at the obituary or knowing who in a neighborhood doesn't vote. just because someone chooses not to excersize there rites doesn't mean it shouldn't be protected.

jonkon,
Can you please provide some sort of citation to your claim about what happened in Milwaukee? I did a very quick google search of "wisconsin supreme court recount milwaukee 300 votes." It seems this search is not specific enough to pinpoint your story. I'm not calling you a liar, but I would like to examine the case more carefully. Of course, I can't do that if I can't find any stories about it.

I am confused about your story from Madison. A voter signed the incorrect line by accident, but the voter turned out to be ineligible anyways? Even though it was an apparent accident, you are claiming it was in fact intentional?

I don't think I would consider a clerical error voter fraud (unless of course it was not actually an error in the first place).

thekai - In Madison's 70th precinct during the recall election, Wisconsin's Voter ID law saved one woman's right to vote, when she was told by the election worker that she had already voted. Because the judge did not throw out the provision for signing the poll list, the chief inspector was able to ascertain that another voter mistakenly signed in her place and was able to correct the error.

Also, had the full law been in effect, a poll worker would not have misread the signature of an ineligible voter who proceeded to register and vote anyway in the same election and precinct.

I find it curious that Kennedy finds voter ID to be an inconvenience, when his GAB would not include in the official minutes of the Supreme Court Recount in the City of Milwaukee the fact that 300 more ballots were cast than there were voters. I witnessed election workers having to shuffle through bags of ballots to find enough ballots, where no preference for either candidate was expressed, that could be invalidated so as to bring the number of ballots cast into line with the voter count.

Keep ignoring my question, please.

If there was a $500 check for anyone who votes, would voter turnout increase?

Driving is not a right. As such, there are many requisites in order to drive.

Everyone who has ever gone to vote, if you arrived at the polling place and were told that you already voted that day (and you don't have memory loss problems), please sound off. I am interested to hear how many this has happened to, since it is an apparent fear.

Saying that voter ID stomps out voter fraud is loosely like saying we need to put rocket boosters on the moon just to make sure it never falls to Earth. It is both inadequate and an unreasonable fear.

*simplistic arguments while ignoring very real issues, what they really are - supporters of Jim Crow Laws (2012 version). Just so you all know.*

Talk about simplistic arguments. Jim Crow? LOL. How original.

How about this, then, voter-fraud fan...everyone who votes HAS to do it at the poll--Absolutely NO early voting or voting by mail unless you are current military and deployed. And when a voter votes, they get their entire hand dunked in indelible ink so they can't go cheat and vote again somewhere else.

usaret: You just posted what I was trying say Thank you! hats off

Voter ID has NEVER lost a challenge. To those that say voting is a rite you are 100% correct..However it is not a rite to vote for someone else..Therefore it's the rite of the state for you to prove you are who you say you are to PROTECT the rite to vote. A stollen vote is a stollen rite...I'm sorry but a utility bill is not protecting rites.

I'm a voter. I go into the polling place. I have no ID. So since I have no ID I can't vote. Now tell me was my vote suppressed because I was a Republican or a Democrat or Libritarion or Independent. Tell me how you identified my political party to suppress my vote. Who suppressed my vote? The law or me for failing to comply with the law? The law requires me to have a drivers lic., auto insurance and wear a seatbelt when I drive but when reading in the paper one finds that many donot comply with those requirements believing that it doesn't apply to them. I guess they believe the laws are suppressing them of a right or priviledge. Well, if the law says to vote I must prove I am who I am, I have no problem complying. I do not want someone else pretending to be me to vote in my place and that goes if I am sick or dead. That vote is my voice and I will protect that right. No one will take it away from me and nor do I want or will take your vote away from you as that is your voice. To vote is an honor, a priviledge and a right and should be protected from the chance that someone will abuse that. We have many excuses for not voting but we have no excuse for letting someone else vote for us unless we don't consider our vote very important to us.

Amen

Getting a little tired of the back and forth on this. I am going to just call the supporters of this law who constantly bring up simplistic arguments while ignoring very real issues, what they really are - supporters of Jim Crow Laws (2012 version). Just so you all know.

At the risk of sounding defensive. I fill out the paperwork at the motel desk, hand them a credit card. Maybe you call that an ID. Actually about a year ago I offered my credit card in a store in Vegas and they asked for ID. I said I would go else where, they backed down. But I guess if I was supporting someone for VP who who told as many verified tales as yours did, I wouldn't believe anybody.

The right to vote is much different than buying your meds, renting a car, staying at a hotel, or any other thing the right wingers are compairing it to. The right to vote is your constitutional right, regardless if you are poor, elderly, or a minority.

RAF it is suppression and any NORMAL person would agree. Many States do agree to that and have over ruled it.... Is is not about Obama wanting to get the votes needed to win IT IS ABOUT THE GOP STOPPING VOTES SO THEY DO NOT LOSE.....- Thank you Old_badger First, no voter fraud of any significance has been found. We have been told that the state is broke. We have been told we want less government. This voter ID bill is a waste of taxpayer money! It will cost the taxpayers to provide free ID to these people! I can think of better places to spend that money. Why would we create a law to solve a problem that doesn't exist?
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This law is there to suppress the votes of students, minorities and elderly.
to add FACT that many elderly have home birth records signed by local Doctors, that are not accepted as to legal birth certificate.
Face it All those that support GOP no matter what they will do to this country He has all but lost with his lies and the habitual liar he has a running mate. I seen a sign today in a local yard and That rsident has to be drinking the koolaide as it said I respect FREEDOM OF RIGHTS and had a Liar and Liar sign As the only party attacking the rights are the GOP.... To suppress the people is a dirty tactics and the only ones doing so are the ones that fear they MAY WIN DOING SO> Not a chance and the polls on all sides will tell you that OBAMA 2012

onelife2live - "Did those same elderly never have a drivers license? or get a ssn?" No and can you vote with a SS card as your ID?

Pardon me for thinking outside the box, but if I travel (by automobile) within the borders of our nation, and I stay at hotels, how can I do so without presenting an ID at check in?

The obvious answer (at least that I see) that seems to be receiving no attention right now, is that I may be traveling with someone else.

This does not prove false an argument that an ID is needed to check into a hotel. However, it does lend credibility to someone who makes a statement that they have not needed their ID for years (and thus may not have a valid ID at the present).

It is very easy to insult those who disagree with us, or to assume they really are as bad as we perceive. However, it would stand to benefit any person, to have the ability to think dynamically and critically when presented with a seemingly unbelievable situation. It is unwise to rule out all possibilities except for one, when limited information has been given.

Now, no one thinks voter turnout would change at all, if a $500 check was given to anyone who shows up to vote? (Please see my post: Sep 13, 2012 at 11:35 p.m..)

wasp.....The right would be totally justified in quickly calling you a liar if you fit the criteria in this case. There is no way TSA would let you though security without seeing ID, there is no way Avis or Hertz would rent you a car without an ID and there is no way you could check into a hotel without presenting an ID and having a credit card on file. I would love to see the hotels/motels you are staying at that don't require ID/credit card at check in.........Are you renting these rooms by the hour??

""The Pennsylvania House majority leader (repub)says voter ID "is gonna allow Governor Romney to win" the presidency."*
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o32tF-S6K...

wasp2491, you are very defensive... jeepers, calm down

916 - You're right I have driven. But i have stayed at motels, done banking etc. I haven't left the country in the last two years. Interesting how quickly the right is to call people liars. Is it something Freudian? As far as why don't people just help people get ID's? Why should they comply with an unconstitutional law? It only is required by the authoritarian right.

Ruthie has her ID already.

Wasp......You "personally travel often" and have only had to show your ID once in several years. Your travels must never have involved an airport, rental car, or hotel reservation because if they did you are a total liar........

Poohbah......I appreciate the offer, but I, along with everyone I know- including my elderly relatives, all have had vaild ID for years. I suspect that the vast majority of WI citizens are in the same boat, but we have a certain segment of our population who come up with stories involving "my best friends, cousins, wife's great aunt" who has voted in every election since 1942, now not being able to vote because she never bothered to get her birth certificate. It seems like those opposing the law would rather spend more time making victims out of these people as opposed to helping them correct their lack of documentation. Old Ruthie Frank was the perfect example of this. If they would have spend a 1/10 of the time correcting--as opposed to reporting about and complaining about--the errors/lack of documentation, she would be good to go as far as voting is concerned. So yes, if you want to help someone, seek Ruthie out and help her. How does that sound? Or would that be counterproductive because then you could no longer use her as a victim?

RAF - Extra thick block wall, the Wis. Constitution is not the same as the same as the ones the Supreme Court ruled on, it is unique in that regard. In some places and instances this act does place undue restrictions on people. Some DOT facilities for instance are only open 5 or 6 times a year or are only open when people are at work. This whole issue about elections being stolen by illegal voters is a red herring, it would just not be a very efficient way to do it. Elections would be better stolen by election officials fooling with election machines, absentee ballots, etc., not illegal voting. Once again it is really about voter suppression.

"obtaining an Id is not as easy as some of you folks think and is voter suppression"
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Speaking of talking to brick walls, the US Supreme court has already ruled voter ID is not an undue burden and is not suppression. Denial of ruled law doesn't change it.

RAF - You authoritarians are really having a problem with that troublesome Wi. constitution. It is pretty clear about placing restrictions on voting. All these other examples, bank accounts , renting movies, etc. are not rights. Voting is, big difference. I personally travel a often, use credit cards and bank. I have only had to show my ID one time in last couple of years. That was the primary election. I won't go into all the details, because it wold be like talking to a brick wall, but obtaining an Id is not as easy as some of you folks think and is voter suppression, and the republicans know it.

WI RES: Who is screwing around? This law was immediately challenged by two groups. One group being the league of women voters. So it goes to Madison judges. These judges, seem to lean left. In fact one had signed the governor's recall petition. Its believed these judges are just "sitting" on these cases till after the November election. Why? Because in every case that a voter ID law was challenged it was proven constitutional. JB von hollen is trying to move this case straight to the WI supreme court. The first attempt failed but he resubmitted his request after the second case put an injunction on voter ID. Plus he wants the WI supreme court to combine the two cases. Ther your up to speed.

fordfan, "many" elderly do not have a birth certificate? That is the defense against voter ID?! Kind of a weak argument to me. Did those same elderly never have a drivers license? or get a ssn?

Let us have voter ID. what's the big deal? I have to show my drivers license just to buy allergy medicine.

Voter Id is to make sure non citizens are not voting and people are voting in the appropriate districts. Total common sense.

You know what they had all this time sense the recall election till now and they screwed around and screwed around some more and all the sudden they want to get voter ID through give me a break. They should have been working on this ever sense the recall ended. To me its just another underhanded tactic to distract the voters thats all it is. The reason it's underhanded is because of the timing. If they had worked on voter ID after the recall it would not be a big deal. Problem is they waited to long and now we have The same situation again only difference is it in voles the Presidential election instead of the Governors race.

Does anyone think voter turnout would increase (at all, or greatly) if there was a $500 check given to everyone who goes to the polls to vote? (If you want, for this gedacht experiment you may also presume a voter ID is in place and 100% verification of identity is achieved. That means no one receives more than one check.)

Still waiting for just one case of verified voter suppression to by brought to a court for trial. Since there are cases of criminals convicted of registration and voter fraud but NO cases of suppression what exactly are those against voter ID really talking about? Nothing but red herrings.

Bring back the Poll Tax! THis is a patriotic step in that direction.

916WI said, "If I had an elderly relative, I would have no problem taking some time off to hang out with them and accomplish this at the same time."

In that spirit of helpfulness, 916WI,if you need a hand getting your ID please don't hesitate to let me know. I'll buy you lunch afterwards and we can hang out all afternoon talking about the great progressive leaders throughout American history.

Midnight - apparently you cannot comprehend the dozens of comments out here stating there are many elderly who do not have their birth certificates to get an ID. Many were NEVER issued birth certificates at all. In your mind does this mean that they should not vote even though they may be disabled after defending our country? How can I make that more clear for you? Or, as I suspect, do you just not want to comprehend a simple concept and fact?

What is there to get ready for? ID please.

Gee, that was tough.

Not only should everyone who wants to vote need to show ID, they should also be required to wear the mark of the beast.

Also, a Democratic candidate for Congress in Maryland just had to resign from the race since it was discovered that she was voting in 2 states. Niiiiice...but remember, THERE IS NO VOTER FRAUD. Just like we have NEVER BEEN AT WAR WITH OCEANIA.

Lemmings.

So the right wants voter ID but cannot find any reports of voter fraud that these voter ID bills will address. So what is the urgency of getting this implemented for this election in so many states? Do you think we will be overwhelmed with voter fraud all of a sudden since the Republicans have taken over these states that could pass these laws? What is wrong with implementing these laws over a 10 year period where many who did not get birth certificates at birth will unfortunately be gone and others will have time to better understand the laws, get their documentation in order and prepare for the laws' implementation? What is the urgency in the states that the Republicans control? I think most will not object to voter ID if it is implemented without disenfranchising voters.

woody, what is voter suppression?

Good link Roadmaster...quote from article...Mittens is likely guilty of voter fraud, by living in California (or perhaps New Hampshire), owning no property in Massachusetts, yet voting in the 2010 election by claiming he "resided" in his son's unfinished basement. He's denied it, and though I'm not a Massachusetts political junkie and therefore know few details about how he's managed to fend off the charges of voter fraud, he's so far managed to dodge the story almost entirely.

The GOP's voter fraud fairy tale. It is a big LIE!!!! The reason they are fighting for voter suppression is they know with less voters, thier chance of winning goes up.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmMVe763S...

I did it, found a case of voter fraud:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/28...

old, I completely understand what you are saying and I can not disagree with your point. And, I know I am being black and white with my examples of when IDs are required but how do you draw the line on who does and does not require an ID. Surely we need some kind of standard for voter ID. As you stated earlier, voter fraud has not been proven but for me, I am not convinced voter fraud does not occur. I am not speaking from either side of the fence, I just don't know how we can trust a vote count when you don't have to prove who you are.

old......When the law is passed, yes she shouldn't be able to vote without an ID. Take a day off and make a day of going to visit your aunt. Take her to the DMV to get her ID(I'm pretty sure they are valid for more than a year, so you'll probably only have to do this once every 5 or so years?) Possibly grab lunch with her afterward.......I'm sure she would appreciate and welcome the adventure. If I had an elderly relative, I would have no problem taking some time off to hang out with them and accomplish this at the same time:)

Pasta......They "live" at their parent's house as well when they are not in school.......Should they also get to cast a vote there as well?

frusion - to date my Aunt of 95 hasn't required an ID. She doesn't drive, travel, own a gun or need sudafed. She had her library card, insurance card, precription drug card for years. People in her small town know who she is. I don't know how she gets by with out an ID because I couldn't get along without one, but she does. So, does that me she shouldn't be able to vote because she doesn't have an ID?

old, I say do away with all ID then. I have seen nothing in the news about people trying to buy guns with no IDs. We know sudafed is no big deal--stop requiring an ID to buy a skid load of it. The 911 hijacker's ID's meant nothing. IDs are such a hassle.

useret - 916 - Just so you know, my Aunt (95 with no ID) is a republican living in the "ring of fire" (Washington County). She is in a small town that has no DMV. She can walk to the elementary school to vote which is only 2.5 blocks away.
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I just want her to be able to vote even if it cancels mine!

916WI... Because they live here.

Is voter Photo ID suppressing only the votes of the poor, minorities, students and elderly of the Democratic Party which is what seems to be implied by all against the use of Photo ID's. Seems the poor, minorities, students and elderly on the Right are able to get Photo ID's so they can vote so why are the Democratic ones not able to? Do not the people on the Right have the same problems as those on the Left? Is it not just as inconvient for them as those on the Left?

old....Your aunt is unable to get to the DMV, but has no problem getting to the polls to vote?
As far as student voting is concerned, there should absolutely be more restrictions on them. If the student's permanent residence is in another state, and they file their income taxes in that other state, why should they get a voice in how this state is run?

I personally want to see a voter prove they are who they say they are; I have no skin in this game but if you claim to be "Joe Sixpack" then prove it. The number of people who are too inconvienienced to obtain proper credentials are akin to the number of fraudulent voters passing themselves of as someone they are not, no way to check it so the numbers are unknown.

frusion - First, no voter fraud of any significance has been found. We have been told that the state is broke. We have been told we want less government. This voter ID bill is a waste of taxpayer money! It will cost the taxpayers to provide free ID to these people! I can think of better places to spend that money. Why would we create a law to solve a problem that doesn't exist?
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This law is there to suppress the votes of students, minorities and elderly.
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I have an Aunt who is 95 years old. She doesn't have an ID. She doesn't need one. She has voted in every election that she could. If this law is upheld, she would have to get an ID. She has no way of getting to the DMV. She doesn't have a certified birth certificate. It isn't easy for these people to get the required documentation. And to say she shouldn't vote would be un-American!
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Student ID's could be used if the universities give out new ID's to the students. This will cost the universities money. Where do you think the money will come from??? Tution! Then people will complain that tution costs keep going up.
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Yes, you will pay for this bill one way or another and for NO reason!

People against voter ID must secretly laugh to themselves on that position. You need an ID to buy alcohol, tobacco, sudafed, a gun, get on a plane, drive a rental car, rent a uhaul, but to vote how dare you require an ID!!!

how conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenient.. could it be SATAN? Nope, just liberal judges

Obama wants all those illegal voters! So let's drag our feet and make up excuses a little more.

Kennedy has repeatedly shown he'd rather wait.