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Wisconsin is only state to lose jobs six straight months

By ASSOCIATED PRESS   Monday, March 5, 2012 - 6:18 a.m.
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Wisconsin desperately needs new jobs.

Alone among the 50 states, it has lost private-sector jobs for six straight months, raising the political and economic stakes of the next jobs report, due Thursday for the month of January.

Even feeble job creation would bring a sense of relief to a recession-weary state and a pro-business governor who campaigned on a promise to add 250,000 new private-sector jobs in his current term.

“The rest of the nation is moving upwards. We’re one of the few states moving downward. There’s something wrong,” said economist Steven Deller of UW-Madison.

The United States as a whole has added private-sector jobs 23 months in a row, including almost a half million jobs in the past two months.

But Wisconsin has been moving in the opposite direction, a trend that not only threatens Gov. Scott Walker’s campaign promise but could cloud any message of economic renewal as the state heads into an all-but-certain recall election this summer.

For a full story, read Monday’s Gazette, read online in the Gazette’s E-Edition or check back at GazetteXtra.com.




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gpawcat
Mar 9, 2012 at 4:24 a.m.
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With the 12,500 net jobs added in January, looks like the Associated Depressed & Steven Deller don't know what they are talking about.
Walker been in office 12 months, not 6. Figures don't lie, but liars figure.

BostonBill
Mar 6, 2012 at 9:44 p.m.
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In a way it seems odd, but totally predictable, how those of one political affiliation denigrates the other for what they apparently think is totally wrong, but when their own people are in office and doing the same thing or worse, it is somehow wonderful. Where have we gone as a society?

Stubby
Mar 6, 2012 at 10:05 a.m.
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Redhead - as much as we all pay for the salaries and benefits of public workers through taxes, we also pay for you salary, 401k, health benefits, etc... when we use your business' goods or services. So your complaint about paying someone else's retirement holds no water because from that perspective everyone pays everyone else's everything! Public workers had, quite wisely over the years, bargained (collectively) to take lower salaries in order to defer their compensation as retirement money. Had they not done so, they would have been paid higher salaries and "paid their own" benefits - costing you exactly the same amount as a taxpayer.

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That may have been a little confusing, so let me put it this way. In the past, the public employee was told something to the effect of "you have $1000 for compensation" They could have taken The $1000 in salary alone, but they decided to pay for insurance first - taking $250 off the top. Next they decided to fund their retirement fully to maximize their potential for retirement - taking another $150. They then took the remaining $600 as salary. Now - they could have taken the $750 salary (after insurance) and put the $150 in for retirement themselves, giving the same net result. But whether the $150 got put in by the employee after pay, or the employer before pay, the cost to the taxpayer was the same.

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Now we vilify the public employee because, with the help of their union, they have done a superior job of planning for and saving for their retirement, so they can retire at 57, with enough years on the job. Your resentment should be the same toward the wise individual who put away 12% of their private sector salary annually and have a nice, fat 401k waiting for them. But no - it is easier to point the finger at "them". Bottom line is that jealousy is an ugly thing, and we are seeing it used the same way it has been throughout the ages to focus the "anger of the masses" at one group or another. Wake up and see the facts as they are.

redhead55
Mar 6, 2012 at 10:04 a.m.
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Who should have Walker given that money to?? Why did Doyle raid the cigarette money??? To balance the budget...memory loss hey...that he claims was left from the prior administration.......and where do you get that Walker wants to bring down women?? Obama bailed out wall street and he and Clinton are in NYC asking them to donate to his re-election campaign...give and give back...his regime gave money to Celindra who they filed bankruptcy shortly thereafter, I guess this is Bush's fault...where are your comments on this???? His regime gave guns to Mexican drug lords who killed border patrol agents where is your outcry on this??? I guess this is Bush's fault.

Donegeal
Mar 6, 2012 at 9:31 a.m.
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If the budget was balanced, why did Walker have to pilfer the foreclosure fund to balance a budget he already claimed was balanced?

(Ugh... say that ten times fast...)

6824
Mar 6, 2012 at 8:42 a.m.
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The unions are trying to help! They got a Porn watching teacher his job back

redhead55
Mar 6, 2012 at 8:40 a.m.
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Wiggle with your philosophy you should take all the money that you are spending on the 3 fun filled weeks in the sun and give it to your worst employees or give it to the employees you were able to discharge if you're not a union business. Share the wealth...lol...I personally do not have a problem overall with private unions. They fund their own retirement plans, pension plans and benefit plans. I do have issue with the Public Unions because besides me funding my own 401K plan, and paying a cost of my employers health care plan from my wages, up until Gov. Walker was successful in eliminating collective bargaining us taxpayers paid 100% of the State/County/Teachers 401K plan, pension plan and insurance benefits, while our brother and sisters in these jobs are able to retire in most cases after 55 (I know because my father and ex-girlfriend did this), while most of us will work until 65 or older. The unions I agree at one time served a purpose but today they protect the worker who doesn't deserve to keep their job. Read the case of the Teacher in Middleton who views porn on his computer while in school. Is this the person you want educating your children? Who will end up paying the cost of the litigation in this matter? The taxpayers of the school district. This recall election is going to cost a bundle of money as well no matter who wins, so who pays for this cost? Taxpayers bingo!!! Be ready to open up your wallets and purses to protect the few. Have any of you studied what Kathleen Falk has done to the Dane County finances? If she is the Dems. candidate of choice we should all be prepared to pay more taxes and give more to the Public Employees. As far as tax cuts the Gov. has given to businesses it doesn't create jobs over night and to be honest the Gov. hasn't been in office long enough for his agenda to be judged. How many of you complained when Gov. Doyle took the early payout of the Cigarette money when taking it over time would have been more valuable to the State. Gov. Doyle couldn't get the no smoking bill passed until the dems got control of our Capitol. Did you dems care about the impact that would have on the small bar/restaurant owners who were impacted the most? Does it look appealing to you dems to see these patrons lingering on our streets outside the bar doors smoking their cigarettes?

why_think
Mar 6, 2012 at 8:01 a.m.
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Feduptaxpayer
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Gonfor5 - one other point to be made regarding your post. The true #1 reason for this is that the Unions have declared war on Wisconsin in an attempt to regain their lost power. A war at any cost to the taxpayers of Wis. They could care less about anything other than collecting Union dues from their members to line their pockets. I find all the derogatory comments about the 1% on here when in reality the Union leaders themselves fall into that catagory. Ironic is it not.
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So, do you also believe that the United States 'declared war on Japan in an attempt to regain their lost power during WWII?'
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The republican party, after the corporations are people ruling, made a decision to attack unions. This is a multi-state effort because... Unions are the biggest contributors to the democratic party. Destroy union membership, reduce unions financial status, reduce the $$$ democrats raise and create a one-party Republican-Corporatist system.
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That is the plan. Unions are not perfect but for the most part they protect the worker, the MIDDLE-CLASS. Destroying unions, destroys the middle-class. Just look at the Right to Work FOR LESS states. The FACTS prove unions are positive for the middle-class.

wislady
Mar 6, 2012 at 7:59 a.m.
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The unions are backing the mining bill, we will soon see if the democrats want jobs for Wisconsin workers.

wiggle
Mar 6, 2012 at 7:53 a.m.
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redhead55
Mar 6, 2012 at 7:09 a.m.
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Wiggle, besides attacking someone who hits a t on the keyboard instead of an r.
Hey if I get attacked because of spelling by someone who can't spell ..........
Good for the goose good for the gander, is it not? where is your post to Joker about that topic?

I have ran my own bussiness for many years. The people I hire represent me, therefore I would never hire shady friends like scooter did/does.
As for bringing in revenue, I think taxes would bring in plenty of that but ONLY if you tax. Scooter gives tax breaks to businesses to create jobs? How's that working? Oh wait, it's NOT working.
My business would fail if I didn't charge people/businesses the fees I do. Just like WI is failing, hummm I wonder why?
Well I wish I could stay and point out the hypocrisy of the jokers intelligence but my plane leaves at noon and I must leave this fun filled blog for 3 weeks of fun in the sun. Don't worry, I'll be back in time to recall scooter boy!

redhead55
Mar 6, 2012 at 7:20 a.m.
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MOOSHOO, where was your union leaders in protecting the Janesville GM jobs. I bet the union leaders still have their jobs! How come the big automobile bailout by President Obama didn't fire up the GM plant in Janesville again? Lets see GM is a business and needed to cut expenses to survivie and the easy target was an outdated facility in Janesville, WI. A recent google search of homes for sale in Janesville, WI shows 856 homes for sale which is going to have a major impact on the economy in Janesville for a long long time. Homes values will decline but trust me your taxes won't go down unless the services that your taxes pay for are cut at the Government level. So tell me your solutions to the mess GM left Janesville in??

redhead55
Mar 6, 2012 at 7:09 a.m.
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Wiggle, besides attacking someone who hits a t on the keyboard instead of an r, please tell me what your solutions are to creating jobs (one of the highest taxed states in the country..google it). Or how about balancing our budget? Do you know how to read an income statement and balance sheet. If you have owned a buainess or worked with business owners and you are losing money you need to raise revenue or cut expenses (finance 101). How does a Government raise revenues? Raise taxes....see 1st sentence.... If you can't raise enough revenues to generate a profit you look at your expenses...the 1st target is the largest expense line...wages...so now looking at the State of Wisconsin revenues and expenses tell me how you propose to get us out of the financial mess we are in which by the way Mr. Walker has inherited from his predecessors but has taken bold steps in reversing. The States welfare system is a scam on all taxpayers. A child care provider in Milwaukee lives in a million dollar home, drives elaborate cars...because she is able to send care vouchers into the State and they pay her for kids she doesn't care for...really?? really?? really?? Good luck getting that money back. Social workers in Illinois tell the disadvantage (of all races) in Chicago to migrate to WI. Why because our programs are to generous and gets the burden of support out of IL.

wiggle
Mar 6, 2012 at 7:04 a.m.
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joker - good name for you! You stated in your attempt to appear intelligent -

"So by your logic, if you work with a drug user or someone who steals, then you are a drug addict and a thief too?"

I do not hire my friends to work in my office like scooter did. My friends do not do illegal activities, his does. That says alot to those of us that think for ourselves.
Not to mention, if your so so so intelligent, you should have no problem finding scooter boys college records of cheating and being expelled.
Go back to school honey! Learn how to spell yourself and then learn how to act/speak the way you tell everyone else to.
You joker are in fact a hypocrite.
The definition of hypocrite - 1: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue.
Yup that's joker! AND scooter boy!

wiggle
Mar 6, 2012 at 6:44 a.m.
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Hey joke of a human - you bash and cut down everyone who disagrees with you while telling us it's wrong.
Read your past posts honey, they prove how you talk out of both sides of your mouth, you must be scooter in hiding!

wiggle
Mar 6, 2012 at 6:41 a.m.
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TheJoker
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:56 p.m.
Suggest removalYou are so clueless you can't even spell."
really? really!
TheJoker wrote, "People need to show respect to out governor...."

Talk about bad spelling!!!! You need more intelligence yourself. So when your closet is clean you can come clean mine! So prove how little education you have by your posts!!
You have no facts to back up your cut downs.
Grow up, pull your head out of scooters behind!
The budget IS NOT balanced. That's why he takes money that is to go to schools for his budget.

Zeussmom
Mar 6, 2012 at 6:03 a.m.
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Just wondering... when was Walker's last town hall type meeting? You know, where he asks for the public's input and ideas... If he was really wanting to run the state like a corporation he would need meetings with his "shareholders", which I would think to be the people of the state, right? And if he's not meeting with us, who is he meeting with? Think about it.

Lightkeeper
Mar 6, 2012 at 5:59 a.m.
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While it may appear that the light is flickering, it is just a side effect of being an outstanding member of the tilted head party.

poorrichard
Mar 6, 2012 at 5:12 a.m.
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Barak Obama is a hater. He has turned the good people of the United States against each other. He has bend over for the unions and our enemies, and declared war on the working middle class. He is a demagogue. He has sold his soul for reelection. Wake up America, do not be fooled again!

TheJoker
Mar 5, 2012 at 10:56 p.m.
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Thekai, what are you, some kind of stalker?! Get a life.

wislady
Mar 5, 2012 at 10:53 p.m.
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Lightkeeper
I see the lightbulb is still flickering, better get one of those energy efficient ones.
Is this Walker's 4th year in office?

Lightkeeper
Mar 5, 2012 at 10:51 p.m.
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Wislady,I respect you all the while......post a link how close governor walker is to creating his 250,000 jobs while losing more then any other governor, maybe while doing this you will enlighten yourself.

thekai
Mar 5, 2012 at 10:25 p.m.
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TheJoker
Jun 26, 2009 at 9:38 a.m.
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Suggestion to Gov. Doyle and Tim Cullen: Tell us what was in your "strong" incentive package. Otherwise, quit whining!


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usaret
Mar 5, 2012 at 10:23 p.m.
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As long as there is a way for those on the Left to insult, downgrade, they will continue to make the same comments over and over and over and over and over and,,,.................oover.

wislady
Mar 5, 2012 at 10:19 p.m.
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TheJoker

People who have no respect for the Capitol, or the rest of the citizens of Wisconsin, are not capable of showing respect for the governor or even the office. When their boorish manners come to light, they try to blame someone else for their actions.

TheJoker
Mar 5, 2012 at 10 p.m.
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Thekai, what are you talking about? Please think before you post. Your ignorance is showing.

TheJoker
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:56 p.m.
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Wiggie, why call him Scooter? Show him and the office respect. Facts? You are so clueless you can't even spell. Regardless of your lack of education, what are you talking about Gov. Walker getting kicked out of college for cheating? This is nothing but a vicious lie and I deman you retract that. You have no facts. The budget is balanced and you also associate him being a criminal because some people that used to work for him broke the law on their own accord. So by your logic, if you work with a drug user or someone who steals, then you are a drug addict and a thief too?

Lightkeeper
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:54 p.m.
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I respect our governor, who has lost more jobs then any other governor, while dividing the state more then any other governor, while raising more out of state money, while being recalled as governor, while being under a John Doe investigation. I guess after a while I really don't respect a governor like that!

wiggle
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:30 p.m.
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"People need to show respect to out governor, whether Republican or Democrat. These negative nicknames, false claims and threats against the governor and his family are just wrong. People that are doing this are showing lack of respect for our form of government and overall, lack of class. Regardless of political party or person in office, please give the office the respect it is due!"
Dear Lord where do I begin?
First - we do have respect for the office of Governor, That is WHY we whant the puppet recalled so we may continue to have respect for the office he holds.
Second - I have been reading these back and forths for months and have yet to see any threats made against scooter or his family. Please copy and paste your facts!
Third - The facts on why we want him out is obvious. He says the budget is balanced when in FACT it is not. He sells his shpeel "tax breaks produces jobs" when in FACT it only produces less income for WI.
Four - He surounds himself with people who do illegal things. What kind of character does he have? Little to none! Not to mention - he got kicked out of college for CHEATING.

BostonBill
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:17 p.m.
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TheJoker wrote, "I meant show respect to our governor!"

LOL, I never knew you had such a sense of humor. Please, continue with your silliness.

thekai
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:17 p.m.
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A comment about respecting the office of Governor of Wisconsin from the person who said the following:

"Suggestion to Gov. Doyle and Tim Cullen: Tell us what was in your "strong" incentive package. Otherwise, quit whining!"

I certainly hope this means you have turned a new leaf, for politicians you agree with and the ones you don't agree with, TheJoker.

Zoom
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:16 p.m.
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When jobs are lost for six straight months, AND the unemployment rate is lower, that means more people are leaving the workforce. That's not progress, no matter how much the partisan hacks try to spin it.

Iamagainstthisbsrecall
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:10 p.m.
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Hey Janesville Gazette. How about covering the story about the woman that works for a company in Janesville that is contracted by the Whitewater Unified School District that was fired or forced to quit her job because the teachers decided to whine and cry because she had a "I support Scott Walker" sticker or sign in her car while at work? How about being fair and covering crap like this. Why do the anti- Walker people get all the media coverage? How about covering stories like this? This was wrong.

BostonBill
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:10 p.m.
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poorrichard: Don't worry, Scooter is only about half a million short of adding his 250,000 private sector jobs.

TheJoker
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:03 p.m.
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I meant show respect to our governor!

BostonBill
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:57 p.m.
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TheJoker wrote, "People need to show respect to out governor...."

OUT governor? Out as in Out of office?

poorrichard
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:52 p.m.
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Gee-If we could only get collective bargaining back and have a few years of massive tax increases and increase spending like Illinois-
Give the DNR more power and force more regulations on businesses. I bet ya the jobs would pour into the state then

TheJoker
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:50 p.m.
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People need to show respect to out governor, whether Republican or Democrat. These negative nicknames, false claims and threats against the governor and his family are just wrong. People that are doing this are showing lack of respect for our form of government and overall, lack of class. Regardless of political party or person in office, please give the office the respect it is due!

GuyKing
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:49 p.m.
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Thank you, Mr. Walker! "Wisconsin is officially open for business." LMAO

Lightkeeper
Mar 5, 2012 at 6:32 p.m.
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Horay we are in last place! Must be the unions fault! Cause what walker has done is working, I seen the commercial you know the beady eyed guy with the pin head, wislady post a link supporting how Wisconsin is in last first place.

badger2
Mar 5, 2012 at 6:07 p.m.
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Here is the real deal.....just ask almost any small business owner (tavern, restuarant, hair salon, flower shop ect ect) has their business/sales/hiring employees increased in the last 15 months?.....you'll find out FAST it isn't working

thekai
Mar 5, 2012 at 6:02 p.m.
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jmartin,
We can start with you. Would you like to work with mentally unstable people for $9/hour? We will have several openings, once we get rid of these ungrateful public employees.

jmartin
Mar 5, 2012 at 5:59 p.m.
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We probubly would see 250,000 private sector jobs if we could get rid of 250,000 ungrateful public sector workers.

TheJoker
Mar 5, 2012 at 5:08 p.m.
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Wow, the comments on this board are just getting dumber and dumber. No wonder companies are afraid to come here.

carlitosway
Mar 5, 2012 at 5 p.m.
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Imagine that Keep supporting the wacko running this state. NO ONE WANTS TO COME HERE. He has destroyed the solidarity in this State whether Union or not. The GOP and there ATTACKS on all area of the people are awful and anyone supporting their attacks is just as NUTS as they are. Women have a right to make their own decisions with their own bodies and Unions have the right to protect their worker THE GOP CAN KISS ME WHERE I CAN'T. Walker has made this mess as continues to do so He is RECALLED NOW LETS VOTE HIM OUT OUT OUT.

cvlwbuf
Mar 5, 2012 at 4:47 p.m.
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I just want to do a casual poll-Those people on the "right" do you know anyone who has lost their job and can't get another one???

yada
Mar 5, 2012 at 4:39 p.m.
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Hard to believe anyone would still support Scott Walker - he does not have a clue and has never ever had a real job himself.

WisconsinResident
Mar 5, 2012 at 3:59 p.m.
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Well Koch_Bros eve you have to admit there is plenty of blame to go around for this mess which started with Doyle and has continued through Walker along with the rest of the Democrats and Republicans. Then there are people like you that we have to deal with that have your own agenda. What kind of game do you think you’re playing we know what your about it is not a secret to anyone who has researched you. In my opinion you should stay out of Wisconsin politics this is our business. This losing of jobs in Wisconsin started a long time ago back in the 1990s when companies like Parker Pen left Janesville and all the other companies that began pulling out and sending jobs to China and elsewhere. No one never said a word of protest or lifted a finger to try to save the jobs then when GM left that was the nail in the coffin. Now we lose job after job and when does it stop when is someone going to step up to the plate and say enough what about the people of Wisconsin. All I want to do is work without worrying about my job being gone so I can have a chance to retire is there anything wrong with that? I ask the Koch_Bros is there anything wrong with wanting to work so people like me can have a chance to retire. Hey Koch_Bros you want to do something in Wisconsin how about getting the politicians in this state to work in our interest instead fighting one and other. Hey you got the buck democrats and republicans will listen how about getting them working for us.

wislady
Mar 5, 2012 at 3:51 p.m.
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Dems hope Scott Walker won’t corner the market on job-growth talking points

"Wisconsin is the only state that has lost private-sector jobs for the last six months — although Walker is still in plus figures for his one-year tenure by almost 14,000. And the unemployment rate IS down, the budget balanced, no schools have been shut down, streets are plowed"

http://www.ibwisconsin.com/Blogs/Right-O...

goneandglad
Mar 5, 2012 at 3:32 p.m.
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Gandalf -- I just want everyone to, how you lefties say..."pay their fair share."

Grow-up, stand on your own and pay your own way like real grown-ups do.

investa
Mar 5, 2012 at 3:04 p.m.
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Governor Walker winning a recall would be awesome - it would rightfully make so many crybabys look like fools. This blog is getting soggy from all of the tears being shed by the public union employees that got their wings clipped.

916WI
Mar 5, 2012 at 3:01 p.m.
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Stubbs......Where did the pay that was cut from the public workers come from? Hint: It was not a magical money tree in Madison........

Stubby
Mar 5, 2012 at 2:47 p.m.
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DA - spot on! ...and cutting the pay of hundreds of thousands of public employees by 8% only (shockingly) reduced demand for goods and services...thus increasing job losses....

Devilsadvocate
Mar 5, 2012 at 2:37 p.m.
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So much for the Walker idea that stuffing the pockets of buisness with tax breaks would create jobs. Tax breaks don't create jobs, only an increase in demand for goods and services does.

gonfo5
Mar 5, 2012 at 2:15 p.m.
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Companies are holding out to move to Wisconsin to see what happens with the recall. This recall was never about what was best for Wisconsin. It was about state employees being agry they now have to contribute to insurance and pension.

fearandrhetoric4dummies
Mar 5, 2012 at 2:12 p.m.
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lets just Hope that our state doesnt continue to lose jobs. I for one want job gains every month no matter who is in power. I am unlike many republicans who root against economic recovery so they can oust the Pres. My guess is that Walker could only dream of 23 consecutive months of private sector growth. Still waiting for that double dip recession. Oil/gas prices may yet make it happen. Free markets fault not the POTUS.

fearandrhetoric4dummies
Mar 5, 2012 at 2:10 p.m.
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http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/stat...

sure he campaigned on act 10. Politifact says, not so fast Scooter.

Oreally
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:56 p.m.
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Welcome to Fitzwalkerstan. No unions, no jobs.

goneandglad
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:56 p.m.
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The unions would have given concessions had they been asked? You are dilusional. That is the biggest of the many lies told by the left.

They still pay only a fraction of what I do for my benefits. Quit whining.

spark
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:49 p.m.
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Joker - Well said.

bignik
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:48 p.m.
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RECALL WALKER!!! Give some jobs to these unemployed.

RoCoChick
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:44 p.m.
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Walker did his part. The unemployment rate remains high in our state because so many people enjoy the rocking chair money. This says a lot for the quality of workers in our state. It's just a sign of the times - sit home and whine on the blogs.

Zoom
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:42 p.m.
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goneandglad wrote: "Nobody wants to come to Wisconsin because of the uncertainty this hissy fit has created."

Again, who is most responsible for that? Could there have been a different way to get union concessions, instead of late night, rushed commitee meetings in the dead of winter, with no compromise? GM got the UAW to commit to concessions, and they have millions of members. Why couldn't Walker work with a fraction of that number? Did Walker really have to cut the union benefits that he admitted, under oath, had no fiscal impact on the budget? Of course not. Walker and the Republicans overeached, and overestimated their mandate. If the current political climate is to blame for a lack of investment from outside Wisconsin, the architect of that climate was Walker and the Republicans.

thekai
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:36 p.m.
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Midnight_Ride,
I think many TEA Party voters and some Republicans were hoping that Scott Walker would be like a Superman for Wisconsin and fix all of our problems. Instead, he ended up being more like Major Payne. Major Payne's solution? Want me to show you a trick to take your mind off that pain from being shot? Give me your finger. (If you haven't seen the old movie, Major Payne breaks fingers to distract from the original pain.)

Walker did not fix anything, he only created more problems. All Walker did to create more problems was attack half of the state. All he had to do was tell us what his solutions are, ask for our input, and work with us. I fully agree, the chief executive drives the bus. He gets to go with his plan, since he's in charge. But that doesn't mean he goes with only his plan, without input from everyone else who lives here.

I sometimes wonder if TEA Party members would also have told women that they were crying when they wanted to be treated as equals and to be able to vote. I wonder if TEA Party members would accuse African Americans of crying when they wanted to be treated like human beings.

thayer175
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:18 p.m.
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I agree with Stubby! Walker certainly is part if not most of the problem. What happened to all the jobs he was going to bring to the state?? He got rid of the jobs the high speed rail would have brought and is now pushing for this mining bill when it is very unsafe for the environment. Not to mention it many not even fly because most of the land belongs to the Native Americans and they have never been consulted on this matter. Wake up people!!

Midnight_Ride
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:17 p.m.
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Critics need to hear it again.
The deniel comes from the left who don't look at the past year and think there is no harm for their actions. Wisconsinites are hurting and we elected Walker to make it better. The left said our votes don't count and they will waste our tax money in the process of this tantrum of rejection. I too would wait until after the recall election to decide to bring my business to Wisconsin. Because of the left, not because of the right.

thekai
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:12 p.m.
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Midnight_Ride,
I think you hit the "post comment" button twice... about four hours and 58 minutes apart.

goneandglad
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:10 p.m.
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Everyone is bashing Walker, but why? Do you really believe doing away with public sector unions caused the loss of jobs? Do you believe that holding the line on taxes has caused the loss of jobs?

Nobody wants to come to Wisconsin because of the uncertainty this hissy fit has created.

Walker did what should have been done a long time ago. Grow-up and get over yourselves.

Zoom
Mar 5, 2012 at 1:05 p.m.
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Walker is most responsible for the current climate. Public union members did not cause the Great Recession, yet they were chosen (though not all of them, interestingly enough) to take an 8% pay cut to help balance a budget that, it turns out, really wasn't balanced. Walker and his lemmings in the legislature chose their method and timing to cram down their agenda of breaking the public unions, and severely underestimated the resistance. Unions represent a small percentage of all workers, yet Walker and the Republicans have managed to further polorize the electorate, instead of bringing them together. Walker has not created a welcome environment for outside business development, fancy slogans aside.

Midnight_Ride
Mar 5, 2012 at 12:57 p.m.
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Not deniel, cold hard fact. Why would any Private sector job creator come to a state that the left has put into a tail spin? Every law is in court and the left wants higher taxes and less bi-partisanship.
When Walker is re-elected, will you sit down and let freedom ring and be a contributor of progress for a better Wisconsin? Or spend more taxpayer's money in distruction?

Public sector unions will not take back control of this state. Especially with a puppet like Kathleen Falk.

rexkramer
Mar 5, 2012 at 12:39 p.m.
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"Can someone explain how the governor has anything to do with creating jobs? I think this job loss is a failure of the people, not the governor."
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Sorry bub, but you don't get to run around the state telling everyone how you're the "job whisperer" for months then once elected shrug your shoulders and say, "oh well, crap happens, not my fault". If you're going to promise everyone massive job creation you best get to creating some jobs or accept the consequences.

Stubby
Mar 5, 2012 at 12:28 p.m.
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Sigma - You are correct in saying that the Governor does not "create" jobs, but this Governor campaigned on, and has hung his political hat on job creation in Wisconsin. He has been a clear and obvious failure, and he has only his own policies to blame. By destroying the atmosphere between unions and employers, he has scared off potential employers who fear the inevitable backlash. He over-reached and businesses (unlike many of his disciples) are savvy enough to see that. So in his futile attempt to create an atmosphere friendly to employers, he has actually done the exact opposite.

huntnfish
Mar 5, 2012 at 12:19 p.m.
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We don't have to wait until 2014, we'll be rid of scooter this summer!

TheJoker
Mar 5, 2012 at 12:06 p.m.
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I love it how some people want to recall a politician for a promise that he still has 2 years to fulfill. Where were all of you when Doyle was in office and did something you were against? Or failed to come through on a promise? Did you want to recall him? If you don't want Walker as governor, get a better candidate and work harder in the 2014 election.

Sigma40
Mar 5, 2012 at 12:03 p.m.
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Can someone explain how the governor has anything to do with creating jobs? I think this job loss is a failure of the people, not the governor.

poobah
Mar 5, 2012 at 12:02 p.m.
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wislady, gas prices and Libya don't seem to be creating enough of a distraction from Walker's failure to deliver on his 250,000 jobs promise. I have an idea for a new approach for you. Walker said he would, "get government out of the way of employers ... who will then help Wisconsin create 250,000 jobs by 2015, and as we create those new jobs, we will be able to add 10,000 new businesses.” He didn't say where those jobs and businesses would be created. You could always give credit to Walker for the half-million jobs created in all OTHER states over the last couple of months. After all, Walker does seem to spend more time in other states, albeit at fundraisers, than he does in Wisconsin. Promise kept!

DavidG
Mar 5, 2012 at 11:44 a.m.
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Think about it. Why would a company move here if their employees in the current state would have to face the task of selling a home and buying one here? Job growth in the meantime has to be accomplished by in-state companies adding more new hires; i.e. in retail, manufacturing, etc.

The governor's priorities were protecting his business friends. He even dropped cap gains taxes for businesses that are SOLD. Then he pushed budget legislation that would cut math and science programs, not exactly what a new high tech firm would look for.

Finally, look at all those state employees and teachers who have had to take massive pay cuts or pay more for benefits. Fat chance they would run out and buy a new car.

Wisconsin was a model state for education and fairness. This governor put it on the front page as a place that hates middle income earners.

janesvillean
Mar 5, 2012 at 11:18 a.m.
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Walker "dropped the bomb" (his words) on the unions. Walker said before his election that "negotiation" was necessary, then switched gears. He testified under oath before the Congress of the United States that he had neither campaigned on the elimination of collective bargaining nor that it affected the budget. If there is polarization in this state, it was Walker's choice to engineer it.

thekai
Mar 5, 2012 at 11:16 a.m.
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RoCoChick,
But if Walker campaigned on everything he has done so far, and he knew what his plans were, how did he make the fatal mistake of miscalculating how Wisconsin would react to his radical policy changes? Instead of promising 250,000 jobs in his first term, should he have promised bitter partisan politics, a hostile environment for politicians and job creators, initial job losses for prolonged periods of time, and a storm of negative political ads, including an enormous recall effort that would cost the state a lot of money (as a direct result of changes he wants to implement) for his first term? And then, perhaps, promised 250,000 jobs for his second term, should he make it that far?

dal
Mar 5, 2012 at 11:13 a.m.
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Walker's theory on job creation belongs in the
dumpster with Walmart and the Koch brothers.

investa
Mar 5, 2012 at 11:12 a.m.
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If Walker gets selected as the Republican's Vice President, he will have an opportunity to fix the whole country with his collectiv- bargaining-busting experience - cross your fingers!

RoCoChick
Mar 5, 2012 at 11:07 a.m.
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Give him time studs. He's been side-tracked by the perpetual whiners. Just wait..watch...and learn.

studs
Mar 5, 2012 at 10:54 a.m.
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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Walker promised to make us competitive and to bring back jobs. He didn't do it. Plain and simple. Recall him.

investa
Mar 5, 2012 at 10:24 a.m.
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A lot of attitudes will change when GM re-opens the Janesville plant. They should rename it The Walker Assembly Plant.

why_think
Mar 5, 2012 at 10:21 a.m.
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west,
I agree. However, I find myself asking the question of myself, "how could I have defended President Obama when unemployment was (9.5%+) but criticize, to the point of strongly supporting the recall effort of Governor Walker"?
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Obviously, each (Obama and Walker) have done other things that I may support or disagree with but on the economy, I have defended Obama while cricizing Walker. Probably on these blogs at some point.
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I guess, in some ways, the more I try to become informed the more I am being manipulated to becoming blindly partisan.
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I do not want to become blindly partisan. I see enough of wis"lady"s posts to know that is a path (on either side of the aisle) to ignorance.

westorbust
Mar 5, 2012 at 10:04 a.m.
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why_think, there is plenty of "blame" to go around. Obama and Walker are only two individuals. We can point to lawmakers of all political spectrums and say, "you did this", but the fact is we all did. Most notably, however, I can point to the "the tea party Repubs can fix it all" fantasy that many people drank. They can't, and in fact, we're only a political ploy to hoist socially conservative policies on us that had nothing to do with freedom or economic fixes. Actually, we are in a very slow recovery, nationwide, it's WI that is dragging up the rear. There are jobs out there, just not close to home.

concernedwi
Mar 5, 2012 at 10:02 a.m.
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Way to quote a credible unbiased source Darlene.

TheJoker
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.
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I blame Doyle for this. And the Marx brothers.

wislady
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:39 a.m.
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hdonlybob
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.
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This is not a good situation at all. I voted for Obama, as well as Walker.
Loosing these jobs did not happen overnight, or in six months. It has been coming for a long time, even before GM closed.
Hopefully it will come back sooner than later.

why_think
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:13 a.m.
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To all the people defending Walker.. Why do you blame Obama?
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For the people ripping Walker... Why do you defend Obama?
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The political pundits have caused such an ideological divide that we (myself included) often fail to see the forest through the trees.
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Currently, our National Economics/Job Growth is moving in a positive direction. There is split party control of congress and a democrat in the whitehouse. FACT!
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Currently, in WI, we are the ONLY state in the union that has posted private sector job loss for 6 straight months. The legislative branch and executive branch are both controlled by republicans. FACT!
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I tend to lean left but still view myself as a moderate. The facts, FACTS, without excuses or namecalling... What do the facts say?

rprp
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:53 a.m.
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What do you expect. This state is a agriculture economy according to the democrats and all the laws favor farmers heavily, especially the tax laws. I believe the state will continue to lose jobs and I believe the reason will be the manufacturing sector understand where the farmer controlled governments stand when it comes to fairness.

frogger
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:51 a.m.
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tiredofhearingit
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:24 a.m.
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Could it be from the atmosphere not the policies?"

I was wondering something like this as well.
Could it be the people of WI are LAZY???
Yes some do try and try but also wont take something for $10 an hour until their "field" or $24 comes along. Some would rather sit on UC than go get another job because why do a job for $9 when you can sit for free.
Again look at the pics of that job fair.
I see jobs "wanted" in windows all over and on Marguis.
Walker cannot fill out the app for you.

Donegeal
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:49 a.m.
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Prior to Walker taking office and passing major controversial sweeping changes, the people of this state could and did have political discussions without name calling and/or threats. This intensely charged political atmosphere between the Right and the Left that could be driving away private sector jobs, was created by those sweeping changes.

It is because of this polarization that I support the Recall effort.

greatplain
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:43 a.m.
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Northman/Johnnyreb: The recall is the result of Governor Walker's actions. So if Wisconsin is unattractive to businesses, he caused it.

investa
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:36 a.m.
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So GM is coming back to Janesville? Thank you Governor Walker!

baegucb
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:34 a.m.
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Midnight_Ride: you mentioned the Democrats are too partisan? I'll have you know that there is another article on this site showing Democrats cooperating with the GOP. Look at the cheesehead story, and look up the bill to see who is sponsoring it. So there! It'll create 250,000 jobs I expect.

orange
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:33 a.m.
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Midnight-ride...you are soooo in the dark !

WisconsinResident
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:32 a.m.
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Looks to me like Republicans cannot do any better job than the Democrats did when Doyle was in office. I don’t know what anyone thinks time to get someone other than a Democrat or a Republican? How about putting an independent in Madison that won’t be led by the party lines. All I know is that this is not the way to move the state forward. We can no longer allow our politicians to sit around and do nothing. The time for talk has passed and someone better step up to the plate you here good Democrats and Republicans the people of Wisconsin are speaking and the message is loud and clear do something or get out of office and let the people elect someone that will actually represent us and not the special interest.

baegucb
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:17 a.m.
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Midnight_Ride: You mentioned bipartisanship? By the Republicans? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

fearandrhetoric4dummies
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:11 a.m.
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And here all I though we needed was a few signs that said "Open for business" and the jobs would just come flowing in!!
Funny how Wisky is essentially offering 2 tax free years to businesses if the re-locate here, and they are leaving. Must be the "Banana Republic" that the liberals have created.
I for one hope more employers start coming here. You want a "Right-to-work" for less state? Got news for you, even if Walker survives the recall, he loses the senate and his rubber stamp. Right to work will be out, thank God! I wonder what is it you people have with workers representing themselves, is beyond me, other than sheer hate and jealousy. Unions didnt bring this economy to its knees, the corrupt private banking sector did, now you wish to fork out blame based on some false political ideology and hate? Funny!
Eagle- where are you going to go for that "lower" tax rate , and the higher standard of living? Mississippi, Kentucky, Alabama, Texas, Arkansas? All right to work states with low unemployment, yet they seem to have low living standards. Must be what you are striving for. As long as you have a job as a greeter, and can live in a trailer, you are somehow living the American dream. Remember they wont let you buy an unlimited amounts of Sudafed to supplement your income.

jmartin
Mar 5, 2012 at 8:10 a.m.
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Mouse, I heard that Governor Quinn of Illinois had to lay off some rodents. Maybe he can find a place for you perhaps picking up loose change on the tollway.

Midnight_Ride
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:59 a.m.
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Not deniel, cold hard fact. Why would any Private sector job creator come to a state that the left has put into a tail spin? Every law is in court and the left wants higher taxes and less bi-partisanship.
When Walker is re-elected, will you sit down and let freedom ring and be a contributor of progress for a better Wisconsin? Or spend more taxpayer's money in distruction?

Public sector unions will not take back control of this state. Especially with a puppet like Kathleen Falk.

johnnyreb6977
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:55 a.m.
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Well said northman!

Northman
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:48 a.m.
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Thanks to the big Recall circus, Wisconsin is about as popular with businesses right now as a Banana Republic. If he survives the recall, look for the next couple years to be much better for job creation. It’s amazing that the libbies have done everything humanly possible to poison the business climate, and then have the chutzpah to complain that Walker isn’t bringing in the jobs. Sort of like the kid who killed his parents, and demaned leniency because he’s an orphan.

jmartin
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:38 a.m.
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That video sums up the public unions, and has alot to do with why we are behind in job growth. Who would want to expand in this state with all the protests and crying and uncetainty.

Eagle1
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:31 a.m.
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This state has so many more things wrong with it than just jobs leaving, that is nothing new, it has been a trend going on for a long time. Smart,well skilled people have made it a tradition to leave this state after college for many years, the pay rate here stinks for professional people as does the tax rate, I had to return to be reminded of it and now looking to leave once again to live a higher standard.

Ronald
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:31 a.m.
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Yeah, Right a UW Professor is not going to be biased. Show us the data.And the rest of the nation is adding jobs,what states??? This is just another example of media bias any little thing to make the other side look bad,gets into print and never checks the facts.
Go Scott Walker!!
All this Walker bashing is way old. Face it he is gonna win any recall.

commonsenseprevails
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:27 a.m.
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These are the facts. Wisconsin continues to struggle and lose jobs however we continue to hear from politicians how good Wisconsin is doing from a job creation standpoint.

jocose
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:25 a.m.
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No_fascist- I agree with your comment. The Walker supporters are totally in denial. They need to pull their heads out of the sand. OK, I was just trying to be nice by using the word "sand".

tiredofhearingit
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:24 a.m.
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Could it be from the atmosphere not the policies?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K_zS4NV0...

RoCoChick
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:21 a.m.
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This 6-month window may appear gloomy, but 'in the big picture', over 2-3 years, Wisconsin will flourish under Governor Walker's plan. GM will return to Janesville this year because we are open for business. We will become fiscally responsible, especially in the public sector. And in his second term, we will become a Right to Work state. Cross your fingers and get ready - Wisconsin Will Win, and the public unions will lose.

wislady
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:13 a.m.
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‎"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.”
- devoted socialist George Bernard Shaw

Midnight_Ride
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:09 a.m.
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This news is not surprising in the choleric climate the left has perpetrated on Wisconsin. Once Walker is re-elected the left will get out of the way of progress. Stabilize!

916WI
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:06 a.m.
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Too funny wiggle! Yes, it makes so much sense that corporations/companies/businesses would choose not to invest in the state considering the business friendly tax/financial incentives that Walker has/is proposing--doesn't it? It kind of cancels out the huge draw to business that the kicking and screaming union supporting/anti-Walker group made opposing these business friendly policies and their never ending chants to "tax the corporations or anyone with money" so that their entitlements can continue to be fully funded.....
Yes, I guess I could see in how your little mind that this is all Walker's fault. Good day:)

4bears
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:06 a.m.
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just wait, they'll spin this. It takes a bit to learn how to use the new tools.

investa
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:05 a.m.
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Watch and Learn.

investa
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:05 a.m.
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Anything worthwhile takes time. Eventually, Wisconsin will add 'above normal' private sector jobs - replacing public sector jobs. Just be patient and let Gov. Walker do his thing.

helge1939
Mar 5, 2012 at 6:53 a.m.
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GOOD BYE walker & GOONS

wiggle
Mar 5, 2012 at 6:40 a.m.
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“The rest of the nation is moving upwards. We’re one of the few states moving downward. There’s something wrong"
Yes there is, and it's name is scooter!

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