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Feds reimburse Wisconsin for high-speed rail

By ASSOCIATED PRESS   Monday, June 25, 2012 - 7:32 a.m.
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MADISON—The federal government has reimbursed Wisconsin for money the state spent on a high-speed rail plan.

Under former Gov. Jim Doyle, the state spent $9 million of a federal rail grant to link Milwaukee and Madison by high-speed rail. The state was also on the hook for more than $5 million in cancellation fees and other commitments.

Gov. Scott Walker and the Republican Legislature terminated the rail plan, saying the state should not be responsible for its operating costs. Walker said transportation officials promised to reimburse the state for the money already spent.

Meanwhile, Minnesota officials are trying to keep high-speed rail hopes alive. The Journal Sentinel (http://bit.ly/PYfFd9 ) says a study calls for upgrading the Empire Builder route between Chicago and the Twin Cities. The Empire Builder has stops in Milwaukee and other Wisconsin communities.




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helge1939
Jun 25, 2012 at 9:11 p.m.
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walker should have to pay the cost

janesvillecomments
Jun 25, 2012 at 3:08 p.m.
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You need two major conditions for successful high speed rail travel. First, you need target destinations approximately 3 to 4 hours apart by rail travel. If the cities are much closer, driving is more convenient for most people. Too far apart, and airline travel saves significant time.

Second, you need target destinations with either high quality public transport, or a large volume of traffic that doesn't need local transportation (such as a Disney World). A major problem with American cities was the extra space available and the Industrial revolution caused them to be able to accommodate automobile traffic, unlike the older, cramped cities of Europe or Asia, where high speed rail is closer to being self-supporting. It takes a huge population to support a decent subway, elevated railway, or trolley car form of public transit. Americans who can afford to travel don't want to rely on standing out in the rain or snow waiting for a stinky diesel bus to make an hourly pass (until 6 or 7 pm - reduced schedules on Sunday and holidays) by the bus stop which may be several blocks from their destination.

kaysbrew
Jun 25, 2012 at 3:02 p.m.
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Hey V
(This high-cost rail to nowhere was terminated by the site staff)
And Scott Walker!
Thank you yet again Governor, voted twice in one term.

no
Jun 25, 2012 at 2:06 p.m.
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*I have traveled to countries with High Speed rail and it works wonderfully. BUT the only way it will work in the US is if we give up our current transportation. *

If your country is, say, the size of Great Britain, then yes. If your country is the size of the USA and your major metropolitan areas are so far-flung, not so much.

wonders
Jun 25, 2012 at 1:54 p.m.
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Woody sounds so much like Mouse, I wonder why. Mouse left the scene after the special election but I think may have come back as Woody.

wonders
Jun 25, 2012 at 1:16 p.m.
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I have traveled to countries with High Speed rail and it works wonderfully. BUT the only way it will work in the US is if we give up our current transportation. I do agree that a good High Speed rail system would be good for the country, but to do one that only travels 40 miles is not worth the effort. If you want to build on start on the coast and go through the country stopping at all major cities.

woody
Jun 25, 2012 at 1:14 p.m.
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spark
Jun 25, 2012 at 1:06 p.m.
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Doing great. Thanks for asking. I also know the high speed rail would have buried the taxpayer even deeper and was and was a joke to think that was a wise economic decision during the state we were in. It wasn't about political bashing like many can't seem to get away from. It was about common sense. Yes, California is a prime example. Fail.

woody
Jun 25, 2012 at 1:06 p.m.
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I know exactly how the capitalists work.....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocEEPi4Pm...

woody
Jun 25, 2012 at 1 p.m.
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woody - Isn't it time you take a basic economics class
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No, actually, I'm doing quite well, howbout you?

WisconsinResident
Jun 25, 2012 at 12:55 p.m.
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It would have been a better deal if the rail company would have picked up the maintenance cost themselves. But from taxpayers point of view I can’t justify the cost to the taxpayers it would have been too much. They can have rail in Wisconsin but the rail company must pay for all the track upgrade and maintenance building cost and the operating cost then that it would a better deal for Wisconsin.

spark
Jun 25, 2012 at 12:51 p.m.
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woody - Isn't it time you take a basic economics class?

usaret
Jun 25, 2012 at 12:48 p.m.
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All I can say is look to the high speed train being built in CA. Triple the cost. Goes from nowhere to nowhere. Oh, and don't forget the other one in Nevada/CA. Out in the middle of nowhere and stops just short of somewhere. Yep, Just what WI needs! But if that is what you want, be prepared to pay.

mentor397
Jun 25, 2012 at 12:32 p.m.
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Dang Republicans - Always bein' financially responsible.

norseman
Jun 25, 2012 at 11:54 a.m.
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If it were up to the Republicans we'd only have high speed horse and buggy

gwendt
Jun 25, 2012 at 10:59 a.m.
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high speed rail or campaign contributors? hmmmm think i better give more "perks" to my political contributors..............easy decision.

woody
Jun 25, 2012 at 10:51 a.m.
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"hammer and sickle" ??? It's time for your meds.

smallBIZowner
Jun 25, 2012 at 9:57 a.m.
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A great ending to Wisconsin's unsavory encounter with the 'railway to nowhere'. Even though Obama continues to spend money like it's going out of style, Wisconsin has shown that it can 'block' some of the madman's wild spending spree.

thayer175
Jun 25, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.
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With the cost of flying ever soaring, (sorry, bad pun) travel by high speed train is getting more and more attractive. Just look at all the countries around the world who are building more tracks and high speed trains. I think we might have been too hasty.

woody
Jun 25, 2012 at 9:24 a.m.
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The Koch bros are not into HS rail.

janesvillecomments
Jun 25, 2012 at 8:04 a.m.
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After reading the Journal Sentinel story I'm more convinced now than before that Governor Walker made the right choice in turning down the high-speed rail proposal. We would have been responsible for a 20 year, $5.8 million-a-year, maintenance contract. Further details in a linked article on the Journal Sentinel site http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...

How many disabled passengers would need to pay for the $19 million Milwaukee terminal renovation to meet new handicapped access requirements (increased from the $15 million estimate when Doyle signed the deal)?

If Amtrak or the state of Minnesota feels the revenue potential from rail travel is there, let them pay for the track upgrade and Talgo's facility maintenance. The Federal "grant" would have brought far more long-term debt and liability than it was worth for a small number of temporary construction and permanent railroad jobs.

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