More groups file lawsuit against Wis. voter ID law
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A Washington, D.C.-based group is the latest to file a federal lawsuit against Wisconsin's new voter identification law. The Advancement Project filed the lawsuit Thursday in Milwaukee on behalf of several groups who say it discriminates against African Americans and Latinos.
The group's attorney, Denise Lieberman, says the state's new voter ID law discriminates against African American and Latino voters who disproportionately lack the new forms of state-issued ID.
The lawsuit lists several community groups as plaintiffs, including the League of United Latin American Citizens and the Milwaukee Area Labor Council. The lawsuit names members of the Government Accountability Board as defendants.
It's the fourth lawsuit against the state's new voter ID law, which went into effect this month. All lawsuits are pending.


Feb 27, 2012 at 3:22 p.m.
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So now if things aren't "easy" it is discrimination.
I see now. It is not easy to go to work every day. I think I will quit. I do have a disease. I can say "I cannot work" and live off of everybody else. That would be easy. If they say no I can yell discrimination against the ill.
Feb 27, 2012 at 9:47 a.m.
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Feb 24, 2012 at 12:36 p.m.
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Many people don't realize what a pain it is for the elderly and handicapped to comply with this law, and it ends up being discriminatory and unconstitutional"
you are correct it is a pain GETTING older and not sure what this has to do with the other!!
Feb 26, 2012 at 9:46 a.m.
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fedup, exactly my point, why vote at all. It's all prearanged.
Feb 25, 2012 at 3:31 p.m.
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AND...KAYSBREWS SPIN--> Keeps going and going and going and going and going.... Now where did I put that big shovel?
Feb 25, 2012 at 12:54 p.m.
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WisconsinResident said, "First of all why is a Washington DC group filling a law suit in the state of Wisconsin? This is clearly a state matter in my opinion. In my opinion if a group is not based in Wisconsin then they should stay the hell out of Wisconsin’s politics."
The article clearly stated, "A Washington, D.C.-based group is the latest to file a FEDERAL lawsuit against Wisconsin's new voter identification law." I bolded FEDERAL for a reason. Issues regarding possible violations of federal constitutional protections by a state are addressed by federal courts.
Feb 25, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.
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First of all why is a Washington DC group filling a law suit in the state of Wisconsin? This is clearly a state matter in my opinion. In my opinion if a group is not based in Wisconsin then they should stay the hell out of Wisconsin’s politics. Now this is the kind of thing that I have been talking about that will delay a recall election. If this recall is to happen than one thing that needs to happen is these law suits need to stop because there going cost tax payers time and money and the sooner the GAB gets their work done sooner this election recall can happen. Longer it goes on there is the potential there is for more delays. Now as far as voter ID goes they should be free for those citizens who live in Wisconsin make the state pay for this mess they created this would help voters out as long as they have a Social Security Card or a Wisconsin Birth Certificate and a piece of mail that has your address on it. That’s the fair way to solve the voter Id problem for those who can’t afford the Id. But I bet not everyone would agree with this solution.
Feb 25, 2012 at 9:45 a.m.
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Biggest voter fraud of all time Bush 2000 in Florida. Now we have to make sure a little oln lady doesn't try to commit voter fraud. Wake up people! How much tax payer money was wasted on this piece of worthless legislation.
Feb 25, 2012 at 9:22 a.m.
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Ahhh Sigma...you scared me there . For a minute I thought you had died, not getting in your two cents worth. But your back, still looking for a handout, but your back. ICK !
Feb 25, 2012 at 8:25 a.m.
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To: wasp2491 who wrote: “To all you folks that wonder….”
So you do not drive? You were hired into a “fortune 500” company without having to show id? You were able to rent, purchase a home or apply for a home loan without showing id? When you applied for a credit card you did not have to submit a driver’s license number or a number from another form of id? You have never flown recently and therefore have never had an opportunity go through Homeland Security’s screening process to enter an airport gate? You have never spent a day or more in a Hotel? Your argument doesn’t hold water and that makes you a …..
Feb 24, 2012 at 9:41 p.m.
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Incredibly sickening.
Is there a yet-undiscovered continent I can move to in order to escape the new nanny-state entitlement society?
Feb 24, 2012 at 8:57 p.m.
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Perhaps we should test the voter
by seeing if he/she floats or sinks with rocks tied to the ankles
or by pricking a mole to see if it bleeds.
Feb 24, 2012 at 6:43 p.m.
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fed
I know what I wrote
It seem's that the last part of my statment was to much for you to follow
Feb 24, 2012 at 5:50 p.m.
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Here you will find a lot more information: http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...
Feb 24, 2012 at 12:59 p.m.
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myviews2-Up untill you started in on the Tea Party I thought you were talking about the Democrats. Obama has not told the truth in the last 3 years. He's the main "Projectionist" in the counrty.
Feb 24, 2012 at 12:46 p.m.
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I said in reply to mentor397, "If so, please show me where I said people without an ID have a legal right to vote under the new voter ID law."
mentor397 replied, '@Poohbah - right here: "That should have read, "...standing up for, and in the way of, the rights of those who are legal to vote."'
Sorry mentor397, that does not say, "people without an ID have a legal right to vote." Try again.
Feb 24, 2012 at 12:36 p.m.
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Many people don't realize what a pain it is for the elderly and handicapped to comply with this law, and it ends up being discriminatory and unconstitutional. Besides, the issues that made Wisconsin famous, that put us at the top of the national list for election discrepancies were all problems with the counters, not the voters. Its called election fraud, not voter fraud. Now the same people caught cheating repeatedly have upped the ante with big multinational corporate money from out of state picking up the bill, for now. Just wait and see who picks up the bill if they succeed in privatizing many elements of our society they view has "profit margin potential".
Feb 24, 2012 at 12:31 p.m.
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@Poohbah - right here: "That should have read, "...standing up for, and in the way of, the rights of those who are legal to vote.""
Feb 24, 2012 at 11:50 a.m.
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Obama and Democrates from other States should keep their noises our of the State of Wisconsin.
Feb 24, 2012 at 10:29 a.m.
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fed I did say ID's are not really FREE Those of us that pay our own way pay for them
Feb 24, 2012 at 10:27 a.m.
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wasp2491, you now see just how short and fickle the collective memory of the American public is. All of these comments doubting the fact that a person could once set up a bank account without a photo ID and that the account was therefore less secure is great proof of this. They have already forgotten, or are to young to remember, the freedoms we once had prior to government taking them away with the Patriot Act and other so called homeland security measures that only serve to make our account information less secure in the hands of a government even they question can do anything right. I doubt they'll object to having their implanted RFID chip auto-scanned to track their every movement. Or having their every keystroke and voice call monitored either. There was less identity theft prior to the loss of freedoms and it wasn't because there weren't criminals. We're on a very slippery slope, my friends. And from the comments here, very few even care.
Feb 24, 2012 at 9:56 a.m.
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What some of you don't realize, is that I am talking about people including me that are evidently older than a lot of you folks. For all your obvious intelligence the world didn't begin two weeks ago. Years ago you walked in people called you by name and people trusted that was who you were. Then you maintained a relationship with that institution. Maybe I just look more honest than some of you. I also find it interesting when some one says something that doesn't fit your agenda, they are lying. My first grade grandchildren react the same way.
Feb 24, 2012 at 9:23 a.m.
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wasp"The people knew who I was."
did you do this by video conferance???
HOW owuld they "know" it was you typing??
I would never sign up for such account if they don't care to prove WHO I really am.
So if anybody hacks you say goodbye to your money or it is your money.
PCCU now REQUIRES id with each transaction. It does does and extra second to pull it out of wallet BUT nobody will ever say they are me when they are not unless they look exactly like me and steal my id too.
Feb 24, 2012 at 9:18 a.m.
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wasp24"All set up by internet and phone no ID needed."
so you opened an account with out needing to prove WHO you are. Not even a DL number required. I call BS.
Feb 24, 2012 at 7:57 a.m.
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Wonders, What I am saying is that much like a lot of older people I didn't need an ID when I set up the account. The people knew who I was. That was the way things were done then. That is why a lot of older people and especially in small towns have lived their whole lives without ID's.
Feb 24, 2012 at 7:36 a.m.
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The first ones that were screaming racism are the people wop are filing these lawsuits. The ones who scream racism the loudest are usually the biggest racists, looks at the joker........
Feb 24, 2012 at 7:22 a.m.
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Wasp, much like you I do most of my banking on line, BUT I did need an ID to set the account up. Maybe you forgot that part?
Feb 24, 2012 at 7:03 a.m.
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African American and Latino voters who are not Republicans are discriminated, and so it goes leftist? 30 some states require some form of ID. Majority
Feb 24, 2012 at 6:57 a.m.
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analertcitizen, ONE WORD FOR YOU....DISGRACEFUL
Feb 24, 2012 at 5:55 a.m.
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To all you folks that wonder how people get by without ID's, it is just not that difficult. My check is direct deposited my bills are paid by automatic withdrawal. All set up by internet and phone no ID needed. Purchases made with credit card or debit card asking for cash on debit when needed. I think the evidence really shows that the voter ID bill is an expensive solution in search of a problem. Those people that were passed over for jobs and training. Maybe you spent to much time at tea parties and not enough time getting ready for a real job. I am a white male and did quite well in a fortune 100 company.
Feb 24, 2012 at 5:15 a.m.
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alart-You're back to your disgusting racist accusations. It looks like you're obsessed or being paid to call anybody who you don't agree with a racist. The only racist I see on here is you. Besides I thought you said you were done with these posts but now you're back. To bad for the rest of us.
Feb 24, 2012 at 5:11 a.m.
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Its nice to see others going after the rep.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND IF YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO A ID> THEY ARE FREE (not really taxes pay for them )
Feb 24, 2012 at 4:39 a.m.
Feb 24, 2012 at 4:37 a.m.
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Liberals like to play the victim card. Not to mention the squealing about outside money coming in for Walker but not outside groups suing the state. The gift of liberal hypocrisy keeps going and going and going. Just remember outside groups, show your ID when you board the plane to Wisconsin..
Feb 24, 2012 at 1 a.m.
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I think this is great! Because african americans and latinos and the elderly are just not smart enough to go get a free ID card. SARCASIM!
Feb 23, 2012 at 11:12 p.m.
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well, good american, glad to see you can admit liberals are in the minority. And yep, I've actually worked for democratic candidates in the past.. way past, I grant you..... but still. hmmmmm, I wonder if one of them is out of jail. Oh, sorry, I didn't work for that one, I dated him. Oh, you say you've never attended a lynching.. I have.. oh, no, wait, that was a planning meeting for recalling the governor.
Again, love the ridicule 'grow up'. BTW, I don't blame minorities for anything, I blame politicians(both parties, actually, but mostly dems for using them.
Feb 23, 2012 at 10:24 p.m.
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I am seeing the pattern now. Just call me slow...
If you are guilty of voter fraud, accuse others of voter fraud. If you are guilty of racism, accuse others of racism. If you are biased in your reporting but call yourself fair and balanced, accuse others of being biased. If you live off the government but can't admit it to your peers who also probably live off the government, then accuse others of living off the government (boy do I know a bunch of these people in my family). I believe it is called projection which is a defense mechanism for people that cannot stand what they are. So the Tea Party should really be called the Projection Party (PP). At least it is therapeutic I bet. Kind of like the Swift Boating of John Kerry by the likes of Karl "We create our own reality" Rove and Dick “Deficits don't matter” & “It's our due” Cheney.
Feb 23, 2012 at 9:21 p.m.
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whoops. It was Flick who posted that.
Feb 23, 2012 at 9:19 p.m.
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Mouse: Be reasonable. Maybe Joel Kleefisch (the Lt. Gov's husband) showed his conceal carry license as ID while 50 GOP members were in the bathroom. Like a caucus meeting or something.
Feb 23, 2012 at 8:02 p.m.
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Oh, here is something.........sorry about the typo.
Feb 23, 2012 at 8:01 p.m.
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Do you mean like all of the voter fraud in SC?
http://www.thestate.com/2012/02/23/21645...
Bet Fox News hasn't reported on this as yet, right? Oh, hear is something else they haven't yet reported on:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-...
Old news but Fox News has a huge backlog of hogwash for the masses.
Feb 23, 2012 at 7:34 p.m.
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GA - "Grow up, learn to be honest, and take responsibility for your own failures..." Remember, you are talking to people defending the Tea Party here, so don't get your hopes up too much.
Feb 23, 2012 at 6:58 p.m.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S38VioxnB...
Feb 23, 2012 at 6:55 p.m.
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at good american.. so lets see, you state that tea parties are full of racists lying to each other as a fact, but then you say you have never been to one. So, your comments are based on what,exactly? Your statements remind me of the line about removing the beam in your own eye before worrying about the splinter in your brother's eye. You judge tea partiers as racist with what you acknowledge is no first hand experience.. isn't that exactly the definition of prejudice? And prejudice is neither good NOR American. Its disgusting. Your comments do more to promote the values of the tea party than the most ardent patriot ever could. Thanks for your service.
Feb 23, 2012 at 6:38 p.m.
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I have not read the comments, just saw this article. All I can say is, HUH?!?!? "the state's new voter ID law discriminates against African American and Latino voters who disproportionately lack the new forms of state-issued ID". Is there something in the law that singles out AA or Latinos?!?? Is there something that prevents anyone in those groups from obtaining an ID?!? Is there an assumption inherent in these protests that, somehow, AA and Latinos are too stupid too figure out how to get an ID?!?!? This is clearly not true. Oh - and yet - they want to vote?!?!? This is totally nonsensical. The only people who would oppose voter ID must also support voter fraud. It's really that simple.
Feb 23, 2012 at 6:24 p.m.
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A tea party gal applying for government "neighborhood block grants and a program for discounted office training..." Hmmmm, something very hypocritical with that picture of fierce tea party self-reliance and individual responsibility, isn't there? Being for "government entitlements" and "handouts" before you're against them and only after your own applications for those same "entitlements" and "handouts" were denied. Something doesn't ring true...
Feb 23, 2012 at 6:13 p.m.
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@ good american.. what tea party did you last attend, and what was the racist statement you heard there, and who made it.. you asked me for facts, now I am asking you. Something you yourself heard and experienced, not something from the liberal media.
Feb 23, 2012 at 6:06 p.m.
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Guess we are not "all Americans" after all!!
Feb 23, 2012 at 6:06 p.m.
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I know a Koreon(sp) girl going to college for mostly free because why only because she is Koreon.
Feb 23, 2012 at 6:05 p.m.
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When is Caucasion American Day and how do I get free colledge because I am white?
Feb 23, 2012 at 6:02 p.m.
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goodamerica "The Advancement Project filed the lawsuit Thursday in Milwaukee on behalf of several groups who say it discriminates against African Americans and Latinos. "
Here is one!
Feb 23, 2012 at 5:59 p.m.
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home improvement loan= thru a neighborhood block grant. Lived one street outside of area. When I asked how the area was determined, I was told it was based on the percentage of minorities w/i the area. Also, a program for discounted office training. I was too rich for that one because I was employed at the time. I walked out with a gentleman in much the same position as I was, working, but not making enough to pay the bills, with little hope of advancement. This was with an associates degree which I paid for 100% with money I'd earned myself. Eventually I found work in another field. So, no, even though I don't have a paper that says you are too white, that WAS the reason.. and 'don't meet the income requirements' certainly meant I made too much. While I support your right to state your opinion, you might want to watch calling people liar.
Feb 23, 2012 at 5:45 p.m.
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How does this discriminate against anyone? Im white and wear pants, can I file a suit too and get a handout?
Feb 23, 2012 at 5:29 p.m.
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even middle school kids have photo ID's deal with it..you even need them to go to the hospital now a days.....i dont call it discrimination i call it get off your lazy butt's and go get one....
Feb 23, 2012 at 5:02 p.m.
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GoodAmerican, I think you'll find teapartysal about as evasive about her racist, "I was too white" comment as Meinert was about answering how many Bibles and other Christian paraphernalia was found alongside the Qur'an and other Islamic paraphernalia in the desert near the border.
Feb 23, 2012 at 4:55 p.m.
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Playing the race card, teapartysal? It was you and the Rock County Voter Education Forum that sponsored and supported the xenophobic presentation, not I. As for you wanting to tie me down in some nitpicking contest over the difference between two words, forget it. If you'd taken the time to watch Ruthelle Frank's video, you wouldn't be asking such questions. And thanks for the opportunity to provide that link again. Please watch this video featuring Ruthelle Frank. [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla... ] This is your chance to watch and hear Ruthelle's story in her own words.
Feb 23, 2012 at 4:51 p.m.
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This lawsuit proves to Scooter that his voter ID law is having the intended effect.
Feb 23, 2012 at 4:48 p.m.
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oh, poohbah.. playing the race card again.. you couldn't come up with facts, so back to race.. people who play the race card only do so because they aren't playing with a full deck. Better check out your mentor's rule number 7 - a tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.
Feb 23, 2012 at 4:23 p.m.
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I'll never forget the Gary Meinert "Southern Border Issues" presentation that teapartysal and the Rock County Voter Education forum (aka tea party) sponsored and/or so heartily endorsed. Meinert didn't stop with Mexican citizens, oh no. He mentioned that a Qur'an was found along with other Islamic paraphernalia in the desert along the border. When asked how many Bibles and other Christian paraphernalia (crosses, rosaries, etc.) were found there, he never responded. This type of xenophobic hyperbole is the very face of the tea party.
Feb 23, 2012 at 4:06 p.m.
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totellthetruth said, "Racist, call someone racist because they don't agree with your views."
That may be the principle you live by, but I can assure you that I call out anyone, including friends, if their views are racist.
Feb 23, 2012 at 4:06 p.m.
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Feb 23, 2012 at 3:16 p.m.
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How many people voted on 21Feb2012 that comment here? I voted. Did you? If not, why not? Would a photo ID have been a problem for you?"
I voted. I have had an ID since CRaig High in 10th grade!
Feb 23, 2012 at 4:03 p.m.
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another ridiculous lawsuit
Feb 23, 2012 at 4:01 p.m.
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Bet your bottom you need an ID at ReNT A CENTER!!
Feb 23, 2012 at 4:01 p.m.
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Feb 23, 2012 at 3:11 p.m.
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myviews2 - You tell me, what is the required IQ level to get an id?"
TO HIGH apparently!
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Feb 23, 2012 at 4 p.m.
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I would have to agree if you are so stupid or lazy or inefficient to get an ID you have no business voting for something as inportant as who will run any particular office!!!!!!
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:59 p.m.
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","In a democratic society it is beneficial to make it EASIER for evryone to participate in the process, instead republicans seem hell bent on making it more difficul"
can somebody explain to me WHAT the H is so DIFFICULT????
Getting an ID is difficult??
I would say XMAS shopping is way more difficult!!
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:55 p.m.
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teapartysal said, "man's best weapon. fear.. wonder how many votes that percentage figures out to be.."
If anyone would know the answer to that question, you should. You and the Rock County Voter Education Forum (tea party facade) sponsored and/or supported Gary Meinert's hyperbolic and self-aggrandizing "Southern Border Issues" presentation.
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:51 p.m.
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My Mother never drove a day in her life,she had a picture ID.I write at check in most stores I have to show my ID.I return something at most stores I have to show an ID.Maybe I'm just special.I agree,instead of spending millions on lawsuits why not take that money and get people their IDs,also I am proud of Redneck Fest,they give the money to good cause and supply a lot of fun for people who need the relaxation time.
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:50 p.m.
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What a breath of fresh air to go to the polls and see responsibility in action. This long long overdue measure is just as easy as cashing a check or showing ID at the doctor's office. No longer do I have a quesy feeling when voting thinking how easy it would be for someone to claim my identity. On the other hand I understand the pain this causes for poohbah, Stan Milam, Tim Cullen and all their fellow travelers. I feel their pain. They need to take action! If Tim Cullen can boycott votes in the State Senate - all of these folks should follow his lead and boycott all future elections. Make a Statement!
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:48 p.m.
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I just don't see how this change has actually cost us anything, nor can I see how this change in voting rules truly discriminates or deters someone of a particular ethnic back ground-from voting. I am glad to see he voter ID requirements. The arguments against this seems a lot weaker than the argument which limits union bargaining.
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:30 p.m.
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ah.. poohbah.... more ridicule.. man's best weapon. fear.. wonder how many votes that percentage figures out to be.. walker spending tax money to defend something, unions/dems/libs costing money for recounts/recalls/new elections.
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:23 p.m.
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6824 - you brought the topic up regarding intelligence to vote, not me. So I thought I would ask you the question. I'll go first, however - there is no level specified so all citizens are eligible and there should be no tests for intelligence, literacy, comprehension, etc.
Now you go.
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:16 p.m.
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How many people voted on 21Feb2012 that comment here? I voted. Did you? If not, why not? Would a photo ID have been a problem for you?
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:11 p.m.
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myviews2 - You tell me, what is the required IQ level to get an id?
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:10 p.m.
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Some have brought up the cost of the lawsuit and how the money could be better spent. Wanker recently authorized $925,000 dollars be paid to a law firm to defend the redisticting maps. That is on top of the $400,000 spent to secretly draw the maps in the first place. This 1.3 million dollars is all taxpayer money. Where is the outrage from the right.
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:07 p.m.
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Go light on the facts and logic, fear. You're talking to a bunch of tea party patriots.
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:41 p.m.
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Remember this is a solution to a problem that doesnt exist. .0002% is a reason to implement a law that will cost valuable tax payers dollars (10 million approximately) to enforce??
I could see if there was rampant fraud, but the FACTS just dont point that out. This is something to hold down turnout, period. Thats what the repubs want from this law and that is what they will get. I saw an interview with Bernie Sanders the other night that I found to be intriguing. He said,"In a democratic society it is beneficial to make it EASIER for evryone to participate in the process, instead republicans seem hell bent on making it more difficult."
I don't have a huge problem with this law, other than some of the provisions in the Wisconsin law specifically designed to disadvantage groups of people. The 28 day rule? So if you move 28 days before an election you lose your voting rights? Who does that affect? If this law was more simple and not full of special exceptions, I would have a lot less problems. If it was 100 percent about ID then fie, but if you read the scope of the law its about much more, especially here in Wisconsin. Its about keeping turnout low. Is that the Democracy we all want??
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:40 p.m.
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6824 - What IQ level should be the cut off for allowing people to vote? Keep it low enough so you aren't discriminated against now....
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:37 p.m.
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thanks, Frogger.. poohbah.. who I am convinced is Editor Scott Angus... did you notice that I asked Mr. Angus.. uuuh poohbah to list the insurmountable obstacles to getting the proper voter id? Did you notice he didn't produce such a list, just started talking about poor old folks? I was at a town hall meeting where someone else did the same thing. They'd come with a union group. Then Scott/poohbah did a little name calling/belittling with the 'circus train' line. Straight out of "rules for radicals' by Saul Alinsky. (rule 5 - ridicule is mans most potent weapon
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:29 p.m.
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Typical racist comments on this board. I bet many of you also are proud of "Redneck Fest" that is held in Janesville.
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:23 p.m.
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I these people are not smart enough to figure out how to get an ID do we need them voting? Maybe discrimination is a good thing!
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:16 p.m.
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Do you need ID to vote in the WI Assembly? Apparently not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...
Vote Early! Vote Often!
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:09 p.m.
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I was typing at the same time teaparty was so didn't even know what they were writing. Guess a few of us have the same idea that this is just stupid!
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:08 p.m.
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DO you need ID to go to trial????lol
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:07 p.m.
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frogger said, "poobah-"teapartysal said, "The only reason I can understand why someone couldn't get the required documentation is that they are NOT legally entitled to it." "
directly related to my CITIZEN comment!"
So you just tied your wagon to teapartysal's circus train. You must be very proud of yourself.
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:07 p.m.
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I am not being racist because I don't think illegals should live here illegally.
All this is just stupid. Why would people think we are "targeting you" because you are black or latino. DUMB just DUMB.
If you cash checks in the grocery store you need ID.
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:04 p.m.
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witaxman said, "another baseless lawsuit bankrolled by the left, who aren't even WI citizens. shows you how low they will stoop to aid & abet voter fraud."
And Walker and friends raising out-of-state money by people who aren't even Wisconsins citizens? And bankrolling another baseless lawsuit against his recall? Last time I checked, the United States Constitution was not a document limited to Wisconsin. It is routinely defended by constitutional lawyers from many states.
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:01 p.m.
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Don't you need ID to get "assistance"?
So what do you get if you win the case??? AN ID? tired of the boo hoo poor me. WHY can't you get an ID????? Is somebody keeping you from the DMV??? Is "BUTCH" blocking the doorway??
poobah-"teapartysal said, "The only reason I can understand why someone couldn't get the required documentation is that they are NOT legally entitled to it." "
directly related to my CITIZEN comment!
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:59 p.m.
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@956.. yep, you definitely need id to get much past the front desk at any government office, definitely the SS office. You need one to open an account at a bank, so, if gramma and grandpa's check is direct deposited, they had an id when they opened it. If its still sent in the mail.. they need an id to cash it.. either at that bank where they needed the id to open the account, or most definitely at a currency exchange... May need an id to get a senior citizen discount. and you know what else I've found out? when one is admitted to a nursing home, a copy of you id info is taken.. that takes care of the old folks.. and if you know any, and are really concerned for their voting rights, you should be taking them to get their id updated and be taking them to the polls. If someone knows of a non partisan program to do so, I would be more than willing to donate my time or a few bucks in cash. That is the problem with all these lawsuits. Any valid issues with getting the proper id would also be an issue with getting to the polls. So taking away the need to show id doesn't do a darn thing to help some poor old lady vote, it just makes it far more likely that some crooked schmuck is going to pay to have someone else vote in her name.
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:59 p.m.
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frogger, not one of these lawsuits challenging the new voter ID law are suggesting that non-citizens should have the right to vote. You can stop with the racist histrionics now.
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:58 p.m.
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another baseless lawsuit bankrolled by the left, who aren't even WI citizens. shows you how low they will stoop to aid & abet voter fraud. "disproportionately lack the new forms of state-issued ID?" you mean they are either here illeagally and can't get an ID or they are too lazy to take the time to get one.
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:57 p.m.
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*Honnest question here... instead of spending all this money on the lawsuits, why don't these groups get together and get the minorities and others a state id ?*
Because that wouldn't help them commit election fraud.
Any other softball questions?
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:54 p.m.
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Discriminates only because you are not a CITIZEN! You have to be a citizen to vote.
Because you are black we are discriminating against you!! WHAT!!??? Who makes up this S43%#
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:53 p.m.
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teapartysal, the meaningless exercise of you nitpicking your choice of insurmountable or inconvenient is an absolute waste of time. As for your life story, I care as much about that as you care about the life story of undocumented immigrants.
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:46 p.m.
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mentor387 said, "If they don't have an ID, then they're not legal to vote. Your argument is invalid."
Are you addressing my comments? If so, please show me where I said people without an ID have a legal right to vote under the new voter ID law.
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:37 p.m.
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9562M, many older people do not ask for or receive "public help." Many of them also do not own a car or have a driver license and have their Social Security and pension checks (the only income many of them receive) direct deposited into their bank account. Just because the majority of Americans have ceded their privacy to banks, credit card companies and government agencies doesn't mean that all Americans have done this. There was a simpler time when the majority of people felt it was important to guard their privacy. So much is known about you by credit agencies that anyone interested could buy your identity and life story. When it comes time to express one of our most basic rights - to vote - the same people who have sold out their privacy complain about the "lack of documentation" of those who have not. Something is very wrong with that picture.
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:28 p.m.
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If they don't have an ID, then they're not legal to vote. Your argument is invalid.
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:28 p.m.
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@poohbah.. start listing the insurmountable reasons why someone who is legally entitled to the documentation required to vote cannot get it.. I said insurmountable, not inconvenient. BTW you certainly get your exercise leaping to conclusions, don't you? In my life, I have been poor, w/o a job and w/o a car. I needed my id(state issued dl) even more then than I do now: applying for any job at all, applying for programs I was too white and too rich to get. Seemed to me like I had it out daily. Took several buses to get to the dmv to replace it when I lost it, but I got there, and it wasn't issued free, either, which state ids for the purpose of voting are. So, I say if you want to vote, get over your crippling victim mentality and get the required documentation.
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:20 p.m.
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drmmrby2k4 said, "I for one will be voting in every election because now I know Wisconsin is standing up for the rights of those who are legal to vote."
That should have read, "...standing up for, and in the way of, the rights of those who are legal to vote." [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla... ]
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:17 p.m.
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It would seem that to get Social Security you would need an ID or public help of any kind.
I remember it used to be hard for my grandparents generation to get proof of birth to get SS. ??
What's the deal?
What do they use for ID in cashing a check? Getting a license to drive?
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:16 p.m.
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teapartysal said, "The only reason I can understand why someone couldn't get the required documentation is that they are NOT legally entitled to it."
That doesn't surprise me at all. It seems to be the only reason you have for every problem in America.
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:10 p.m.
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Where's the 3rd comment - the header said 3. The only reason I can understand why someone couldn't get the required documentation is that they are NOT legally entitled to it. Please note that the group is in Washington DC If you think ANYONE IN WASHINGTON DC gives a rip about African Americans or Latinos anywhere in Wisconsin, well, do ya wanna buy a bridge?
Feb 23, 2012 at 12:59 p.m.
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Honnest question here... instead of spending all this money on the lawsuits, why don't these groups get together and get the minorities and others a state id ? I am sure the money would be better spent on that than lawyers.
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Wouldn't that empower the so called disatvantaged and make it so that all who truly wanted to vote could? That would do much more good to help the minorities than a lawsuit IMO.
Feb 23, 2012 at 12:49 p.m.
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Hmmmm. I wonder why they can't get an id. Sounds pretty easy to me. Here are the instructions for all those that have not been able to get an id. http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/dri...
I for one will be voting in every election because now I know Wisconsin is standing up for the rights of those who are legal to vote.
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