My faith in mankind is restored.....Daniels last place!

wislady said, "poobah the person you keep referring to in the video STATES she could get a birth certificate, she chose not to. She did not want to pay for it."

Thank you for confirming for everyone the fact that this 84 year old woman who has owned a home, gotten a Social Security card, opened bank accounts, voted in every election since 1948 and served on her town board for several years now suddenly has to pay in order to vote.

She has no other use for a photo ID than to vote, meaning this is nothing short of a poll tax for this woman. Thank you for confirming what I have repeatedly pointed out. And thanks for providing me with another chance to direct people to Ruthelle Frank's video: [ Please watch this video featuring Ruthelle Frank. [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla... ]

"I heeard tonight, an eyewitness account of two vets, older, late 80's. turned away from voting because their ID's were expired. So sad to hear this news."

analertcitizen

Please provide proof of this...gossip is not taken to be fact.

SarahB1

Wisconsin Vital Records Office issues the birth certificate (since 1907)....the hospital issues a Certificate of Registration (or Certificate of Live Birth).

poobah

the person you keep referring to in the video STATES she could get a birth certificate, she chose not to. She did not want to pay for it.

How many people "commenting" on here do not have a birth certificate or a Wisconsin ID?

The Janesville and Rock County clerks have made extra effort, explicitly above and beyond the Republican law, to make sure that voters on the fringes are not denied the franchise. Still, the GOP continues to try to cut off these options, including by eliminating a special registration deputy certificate formerly issued by the state GAB that would permit experienced volunteers to operate statewide. Now they can only seek municipal certificates that need to be renewed every year. That doesn't sound like a party that wants to improve access to the polls to me.
http://gab.wi.gov/clerks/education-train...
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In at least one jurisdiction, public outcry was necessary before the local clerk would do certifications. In part, this is because it's an unfunded mandate, a responsibility that now must be borne by local taxpayers.
http://www.journaltimes.com/news/local/f...
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Someday, all you true believers will understand how thoroughly you've been lied to. I hope you're up to the heartbreak. Apparently none of you care until you are personally affected.

Older...sorry, I told Sigma to crawl back under her rock several days ago. I didn't realize she would take it to heart.

You must live under a rock Sigma. Their supporters were hosting get togethers and parties, sending emails and texts. They were all over the news. There was at least one canidate forum. It's a pretty big deal when the winner will serve for twenty years or more. A topic of conversation just about everywhere you go.

This "primary" thing must not be that big of a deal as I seen no sign saying when, where, and what it is. I love how the media hypes stuff up and then leaves out the most important stuff....details.

"Rock County turnout appears to be high"
Is the gazette implying something about the mental state of the voters?

it's called hearsay evidence

I heeard tonight, an eyewitness account of two vets, older, late 80's. turned away from voting because their ID's were expired. So sad to hear this news.

looks like
McCrory
Hoag

OLeary
Haakenson
McDonald
Daniels

Here in Rock County, it's $20 for the first copy of a birth certificate:
http://www.co.rock.wi.us/certificates/bi...

http://www.co.rock.wi.us/images/web_docu... lists the identification you need to present to obtain the copy of your birth certificate.

Is it too late for me to vote?

8-15% is high? Sigh.

reality - I never got an original birth certificate - only a miniature replica which was not legal as that is all they gave out centuries ago when I was born. I had to get copies for a PP a couple years back so I could take an out of country trip. Believe me it cost me PLENTY with doing this remotely and the normal charges that they apply. Let us know in detail how you get your free ones – especially if there are no records of a birth certificate - so we can share this info with others.

janesvillefirst – let's take this scenario. A person is in their late 80s, is in a nursing home or is home bound, does not have a driver's license as their husband always drove, the person was born out of state, and has no children living close by to assist getting her around. How is this person to do all of the leg work to exhaust all areas of searching for her birth certificate, getting the required documentation pulled together to show who she is and that she never had a birth certificate issued, get the free voter ID, etc. This has hardly free to her. I suspect rather than impose on others, her decision would be to not vote as it is “only one vote”. The person up until this cabal took over never had an issue voting, but now........well not worth the effort. This is precisely what the right-wing wants and you support it apparently. Nothing wrong with that......at least you are honest about your views.

"Stottler said her indications are that the big turnouts are driven by the judge race, in which the vote will determine which two candidates advance to the general election April 3."
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:) I'd imagine so, as it was the only Rock County race...

reality you need to wake up! My grandson was born 3 years ago, my daughter DID NOT get a free copy, she had to wait a couple weeks, go down to vital records and pay for one. Matter of fact, she had to wait along time because they hadn't put it in the computer yet.

Most people born in the 20's 30's 40's don't have the original if they even had them. So fine, go get a copy in vital records IF it exisits.
The ONLY three things the vital records takes as ID to do a birth certificate search is
1) a state ID card with photo
2) a drivers license with photo
3) an out-of-state drivers license
so to get an ID you need a birth certificate
to get a birth certificate you need an ID
I don't care if your left or right that's ignorant!

realitybytes, what about a person who was NEVER issued a birth certificate? A person who never needed one to marry, work, have children, pay taxes, get a Social Security card, open bank accounts, buy a home, serve on their town board and vote in every election since 1948.

original birth certificates ARE actually free in most places. If you lose or misplace your original, certified birth certificate that is NOT the governments fault; it is yours. Of course asking for additonal copies will cost you. DUH. Don't blame the Republicans that your FREE state ID will have an associated cost. People need to grow up and take responsibility for their lives and stop expecting cradle to grave handouts from the liberal loved government,

What's even more ignorant to this whole ID to vote thing -
You can apply for a copy of a birth certificate three ways: in person, by mail, or by fax.

Identification is required to apply for copies of vital records in person, by mail or by fax. The acceptable forms of identification are listed below.

Requires ONE of the following:
Wisconsin driver's license with photo
Wisconsin I.D. with photo
Out-of-state driver's license/I.D. with photo

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So to vote you need an ID, to get an ID you need a birth certificate, to get a birth certificate you need an ID.
Morons, pure and simple. But hey we live in WI, lets just crack open another beer!

janesvillefirst, many older people were never issued birth certificates. Including those who have voted since 1948, owned their home and served on their town board for years. [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla... ]

Sorry janefirst - birth certificate copies are not free in most places,

Wisconsin Department of Health Services-
The cost for the search, which includes one copy of the birth certificate, if found, is $20.00. Additional copies of the same record, requested at the same time as the first, are $3.00 each. The cost is the same whether you request a certified or uncertified copy of the birth certificate.

The fees are not refundable if no record is found. Acceptable methods of payment for in-person requests are cash, personal check, or money order. Credit and debit cards are not accepted for in-person requests.

Last I checked, ID's are free. Birth certificates if you don't have one are free in most places. What's the issue? Unless you want to vote under another name or in three or four polling places.

yes befair. One of the main things we need an ID for is to ensure that those that do not have the means to get an ID will not vote.

I went to the polls, showed my ID, signed my name and voted. It was very quick and simple. Don't most people need an ID for many other things, too? Unless you're up to mischief, what's the big deal?

you already knew the answer usaret. I'm off to vote. Later.

usaret said, "Last time I checked there were poor, students, elderly in the Republican Party as well so why does it seem that the only ones having a problem voting are members of the Left."

Glad to see you acknowledge that the bill is affecting "members of the Left" more than others. Not many people defending the voter ID bill would do that. And as you know, this is all about demographics of the parties. Yes, both parties have elderly, young, wealthy, poor, conservative and liberal supporters. But that does not mean the distribution of supporters with those characteristics are equally divided between parties or that supporters with those characteristics are equally impacted by the new voter ID law. But, I think you already understood that.

Janesvillean: Why would the Republican Party make it difficult to vote since the Republicans fall under the same voting law as the Democrats? Last time I checked there were poor, students, elderly in the Republican Party as well so why does it seem that the only ones having a problem voting are members of the Left. Now, why is that?

I know for myself, with all I have to get done, I could easily have shrugged off this race. But I needed to know if I was going to have a problem given the new requirements, so I could fix it before the next election. But I guess having every single Wisconsin voter inconvenienced and uncertain about their readiness is a small price to pay for the confidence that the Republican Party is now able to keep Certain People from voting.

A high turnout is good news. Apathy is a real danger in democracies. Will this continue?