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Dress code for Janesville public school staff is up for a vote

By ASSOCIATED PRESS   Sunday, December 9, 2012 - 2:25 p.m.
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JANESVILLE – The Janesville School Board could vote Tuesday on a staff dress code that has sparked controversy.

The school board received a revised version of the code on Friday. The revision addresses some of the criticisms, including exceptions for a variety of jobs and for “extreme hot weather.”

The board meets at 6:30 p.m. Tuesday at the Educational Services Center, 527 S. Franklin St. The agenda lists the dress code for a possible vote.

The revised dress code is posted online with the rest of the board’s meeting packet, here.

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frogger
Dec 11, 2012 at 10:53 a.m.
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ill drink- I agree but the editor doesn't .
"We do read them.

Please understand sentence construction before you criticize.

Headlines often have understood verbs. Common practice.

In these cases, the understood verb is "is." The verb is driven by the
subject, which leads the sentence. So the clauses "in fair condition" and
"found competent for trial" go back to the subjects "Janesville man" and
"martial artist."

That's how sentences work.

Scott Angus"

sorry if an adverb follows a noun or pronoun it referrs to the noun right before it unless seperated by a comma.
This is my other fav. "
"Martial artist accused of fighting police, dog found competent for trialWednesday, August 22, 2012"

frogger
Dec 11, 2012 at 10:50 a.m.
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Seems you should be there 1 hour before school to prepare or to help kids that need extra help.
Abarrier between kids and teacher because the teacher doesn't get to dress like a slob like the kids??? whatever.
manners- so put on some long janes or johns under the khari like anybody else who may have to go outside. Wear a warm coat. What is with people so against teachers dressing like they go to a real job and still aren't IN school as a kid.

sandman"
One might expect that dressing appropriately for the job at hand is a good lesson for the young people passing through the educational system who will eventually have to pull up their pants and take off their cocked baseball hats and tiny-tiny-tight baby-doll sweaters - merely exchanging one uniform of conformity to one "nonconformist" group for the uniform of another ("The Man," of course) - and get a J-O-B!"

plus 1.

blahblahblah
Dec 10, 2012 at 5:44 p.m.
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I think this is a travesty for a few reasons. First and foremost is the time that has gone into this, rather than into something that benefits our children's education. Although this has been edited from the original draft, I think it is written for someone middle-aged and conservative. Only collared shirts?! Since when did round necked/v-necked tops become too casual?! If someone is wearing a plunging neckline by all means send them home for a change of clothing....but only collared shirts! I just don't get it....Good luck on recruiting young, new talent who actually want to have an element of personal expression.

vnvet7071
Dec 10, 2012 at 2:47 p.m.
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If your going to go back to early 1900 standards , don't forget to have the teachers be at school one hour before the students in order to get the wood stove going !

hdonlybob
Dec 10, 2012 at 11:02 a.m.
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Manners,
Please accept my apologies...
I must be getting way too old and loosing my mind.
I was wrong thinking that the students already had a dress code.
They should also.
:-)

Sigma40
Dec 10, 2012 at 9:21 a.m.
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Why create a false impression on who the teacher actually is? If you set a dress code for teachers that is so much more formal than students you create a barrier. Formality is a fake front and does nothing but show those that dress on the opposite side of the spectrum that they are different. You want people to feel comfortable....especially while learning. If im dressed casual I still find it uncomfortable in meetings with people dressed in suits.

wasp2491
Dec 10, 2012 at 6:38 a.m.
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I was in the work force for 45 years, and worked as an hourly employee and later was in management. Never had a dress code, never had a hand book. Was treated as a responsible adult employee. I think this is the brain child of a few right wing members of the board trying out their new dictatorial powers. This of course, comes from the stay out of lives, less regulation crowd. Just an indication of what they are really about. As far as being role models, I think the actions of the teachers do much more in that vein, than what clothes they wear. I personally feel, from what I have seen at my age, people that follow role models are usually disappointed in the end.

Manners
Dec 10, 2012 at 6:21 a.m.
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hdonlybob~Thanks for proving my point. There is no difference and there is NO dress code for students. I have heard many teachers tell their students to "dress for the weather" and to "...be sure to keep warm." Awesome job of showing why this is not needed and offensive.

yada
Dec 10, 2012 at 5:45 a.m.
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Read---> MANNERS --- Best comments in the forum and very true.

MGDJoker
Dec 10, 2012 at 5:24 a.m.
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I'm glad I'm seeing tax payer money being put to good use once again.

MGDJoker
Dec 10, 2012 at 5:24 a.m.
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I'm glad I'm seeing tax payer money being put to good use once again.

ALLin
Dec 10, 2012 at 3:37 a.m.
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The dress code does not apply to teachers on the day(s) they are told (by the union) to call-in sick and go protest.

Domino
Dec 9, 2012 at 10:13 p.m.
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The man is in fair condition. Looks like you've been drinking all day. There's nothing wrong with it.

illdrinktothat
Dec 9, 2012 at 9:40 p.m.
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I know this is not on point...but it is about the only article we are allowed to comment on...so here goes...."Janesville man found in house with dead wife in 'fair' condition"....

how can a "dead wife be in fair condition?"

Should we demand better of the Gazette and Angus?

illdrinktothat
Dec 9, 2012 at 9:32 p.m.
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Manners must be still wet behind the ears.
And, I'll be willing to bet she is so new that she doesn't even know what "wet behind the ears" even means.

fbcoach66
Dec 9, 2012 at 9:14 p.m.
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I agree with "factsplease" this version is much "cleaner" and makes more sense. As a teacher, I (like 99%) of the staff already follow this code. The original code definately needed some reworking and I'm glad they made it more reasonable and cleared up much of the confusion.

I personally don't like the mention of Forward Janesville in the code, because while it is a great organization, so is Kiwanis, Optimist Club, the Janesville Police Department, the Boys and Girls Club or any of a dozen other organizations that I think should be given the same respect. Since they are all the same, why mention any one by name. Why not just say, "When representing the district to the community at a special event." However, that is just spliting hairs.

All in all, in ONLY MY opinion, it is a reasonably worded policy that is much improved from the one first introduced.

Jim Reif

nicksmom
Dec 9, 2012 at 8:40 p.m.
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@Marty23: A dress code is trivial???? Teachers serve as role models to our children. They should portray themselves as the professionals that we constantly here they are. I'm not clear what all the controversy is about. I've been in the work force for over 25 years and every place I've worked at from a grocery store to a law firm has had a dress code. There are exceptions per the policy. Seems like much ado about nothing.

Sandman
Dec 9, 2012 at 8:38 p.m.
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Vote YES!

What's the problem with teachers appearing reasonably professionally dressed, rather than overly casual and relaxed?

One might expect that dressing appropriately for the job at hand is a good lesson for the young people passing through the educational system who will eventually have to pull up their pants and take off their cocked baseball hats and tiny-tiny-tight baby-doll sweaters - merely exchanging one uniform of conformity to one "nonconformist" group for the uniform of another ("The Man," of course) - and get a J-O-B!

hdonlybob
Dec 9, 2012 at 7:42 p.m.
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QUOTE:
"It is controversial due to the fact that the staff works with children and have many duties that are outside in a variety of weather. The general public does not understand most schools have NO a/c and that the heat is at a minimum to keep savings. Before you comment it would be great if you visited a school and saw the staff on the floor working with kids, on recess duty in cold temps. oh and yeah art projects. So easy to judge when you don't know." END QUOTE.
And this is different from the students how ????

Marty23
Dec 9, 2012 at 7:25 p.m.
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Why did it take so long to develop a dress code policy? The board has spent so much time on this one issue that has little to do with the education of our students.

I am more concerned that one of the teachers of the year has resigned from the district. Is there something else going on here? Are we, as a district, starting to drive our talent away? I am concerned that we are losing track of the big picture about the purpose of the school board and their role in the education of our students. If we continue to focus on trivial items such as a dress code,or parking permits for our employees, we will only demoralize our staff, rather than support their role in the education of our children.

Manners
Dec 9, 2012 at 7:18 p.m.
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It is controversial due to the fact that the staff works with children and have many duties that are outside in a variety of weather. The general public does not understand most schools have NO a/c and that the heat is at a minimum to keep savings. Before you comment it would be great if you visited a school and saw the staff on the floor working with kids, on recess duty in cold temps. oh and yeah art projects. So easy to judge when you don't know.

MissScarlet
Dec 9, 2012 at 6:30 p.m.
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jv93 - it's controversial because it wasn't written solely by the union.

simon
Dec 9, 2012 at 6:03 p.m.
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Thanks for the link to the board agenda. I like how Sean Hildebrandt, who is one of Janesville's Teachers of the Year is leaving the district. His leaving should speak volumes to the school board and people of Janesville--what a tragic loss!

hdonlybob
Dec 9, 2012 at 5:32 p.m.
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Looks like any other business policy...
Shouldn't be any problem here.

factsplease
Dec 9, 2012 at 4:43 p.m.
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Since this version is about half the length of the previous version, I'd say they have cut out some of the more controversial items. As it is now, it seems to be an okay policy.

jv93
Dec 9, 2012 at 3:56 p.m.
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The policy looks pretty straight forward. So why again is this so controversial?

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