justonepost I applaud your thinking, where was it 2-3 years ago?

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LASST5500...

From the Janesville Gazette YESTERDAY:
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"""The state Department of Workforce Development reported that Wiscons lost 9,300 PRIVATE SECTOR jobs last month and 9,700 overall - MORE THAN ANY OTHER STATE."""
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We, the people of Wisconsin, have a unique opportunity to fix this problem. We made a mistake and elected someone who SOLD US OUT to the highest bidder.
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If the numbers above are not enough to convince you...partisanship must be more important than our state and your neighbors.

I'm curious whether there's any actual written policy, or if this was just made up in response to the situation. And, if it's a real (and uniform) policy, has it been applied to anyone else?

"This is going to be a REFERENDUM AGAINST WALKER and moreso than a vote for his Democrat opponent."
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Raise thy blue fist! Just remember a latex glove. We don't want anything ELSE taxing Badgercare.

totellthetruth, the information Yuri posted came from the city attorney. I have perhaps misplaced confidence that the city attorney knows what the police department's needs regarding the use of the 911 system are. Regardless, I am unsurprised that you are the type of person who would consider democracy happening in the wrong place or at the wrong time an emergency requiring immediate police intervention.

BTW I have respect for those that make their views known without labelling , name calling, and rhetoric. Its much easier to engage in real conversation about actual issues and the realities behind them, than it is with several cartoon charecters(Fedup, T&S) that have yet to make really any points worth talking about. With those types its just about hate and ridicule. They want a one party system.

emac- again you are of course ENTITLED(pun intended) to your OPINION. Of course Just because you repeat something over and over doesnt make it true. I also think that may of you that hate unions so much miss some pretty critical points. Number one even with collective bargaining rights, unions can de-certify if the majority of their members don't like what they do or don't do for them. Number 2 , no one is forced to work for a company that is unionized, or is forced to work for the state which is unionized. Any teacher could teach at a private school if they like, they dont. WHy? Maybe because private school teachers get paid terribly.
Feingold is a puppet to unions? Really can you please back that one up? Just because he supports a groups right to bargain collectively for compensation and work conditions? Really? That is a reach at best.

Again I respect the opinions of those that don't believe in the recalls, you have the right to hold those opinions. Unfortunately most of you seem to lack the respect of others rights to recall these people.
It seems to me that the tactics show that you are very afraid of the results and will subscribe to just about any type of behavior to derail these grass roots efforts. Some of the things I have been hearing floating around is that by weeks end there will be almost enough signatures to recall. Now that is hearsay, but I would say that the governor and many others who thought this would just "go away" grossly miscalculated.

janesvillean, just for your information the exact same dispatcher answers the exact same phone when 911 and the non emergency phone rings, just the phone system prioritizes the call through the MDT differently. Also, there is no change in cost. Yuri is wrong, you are wrong, and what makes America great is you both have the right to be wrong as you need to be!

Unclesmoothie - you ask what good are the unions? Why to take union dues out of the member paychecks. And why is this not making national news - because he is an Obama hack.

Thank you justonepost..... And rest assured, the attacks on unions from both sides are just beginning.

kinda funny to me,that is,when people like Lars and yuri come to america and can not wait to "CHANGE" OUR country to how it was where they came from......

Probably bias but at the same time, apples to oranges.
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Actually taking the rights away versus implementing policies that make them less meaningful.
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BTW, plenty of other items remain intact in Chicago that are not in Wisconsin.
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I am done defending the SOB mayor of Chicago. He is scum but Walker is worse.

I have a friend who works for the city of Chicago. Her union rep said we either take what they are offering or lose hundreds or possibly thousands of jobs. They are not going to negotiate. So if the city refuses to negotiate as per the union contract, what good are collective bargaining rights? Apples to oranges? I don't think so. Although it doesn't make the papers, Rahm has mentioned taking away holiday pay and cutting vacations and paid sick time. I guess my question is why doesn't this make the national media?

To quote Mr. Herman Cain, "Apples to Oranges."
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The unions are being forced to give financial concessions in Chicago. They are NOT being required to give up their right to collectively bargain.
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Being forced, without negotiations to give in to financial concessions is NOT THE SAME as having your rights ripped from you without negotiations.
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What Walker did was a Republican political move to weaken unions, thus weakening Democrats ability to raise money. Money, that thanks to our "Supreme" Court that is not considered speech and has more political power than my vote does.
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The War on Unions was a strategic move by the Republican Party to reduce the Democratic ability to raise money. The biggest contributors to the Democratic Party...the unions. Interesting that taking away union rights was done by Republican politicians while the democrat YOU SITE only asked for financial concessions.
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See, he was able to accomplish the SAME THING WALKER CLAIMED TO DESIRE without destroying any rights of the people.
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APPLES TO ORANGES..but nice try.
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All that said, Emanuel is a corporatist sell-out that should be ashamed by what he has done. No fan of the man but what he did, although wrong, is not on the same level as Walker. Emanuel, corporatist sell-out who needs the unions...Walker, corporatist sell-out who needs the unions destroyed. HECK, RECALL BOTH!

And as for just conservatives being the only ones who want to suppress the the 1st amendment rights of protesters, I refer you to what Richard Daley did to the Vietnam protesters at the 1968 Democratic National Convention. Who says both sides aren't willing to go to extremes if it serves their agenda? Politicians.... ya gotta love em!

If there are as many people that want to recall Walker as the lefties think there is there wouldn't be any need to shove a petition in ANYONE'S face.

Good point emac. Take a look at Chicago and what Rahm Emanuel is doing to the unions there. Just because a big time liberal gets elected doesn't mean things will change. I find it ironic that none of the extreme liberal posters on these threads ever mention the crap he is pulling.

Bassman first of all you are wrong this can be done on all Gov property and public property the only exception is private offices that are not usually open to public . You need to know that the government bulidings are the peoples not just the ones who hold offices in them ,they are open to the PUBLIC. On the laws and rules for cavansing ..are as such ...petition circulation is not solicitation and may be done in any PUBLIC PLACE No limits to specific days or times if day. NOW IF YOU DOUBT THIS CONTACT 608-692-9173 THIS INFO I POSTED IS ON THE BACK OF RECALL WALKER VOLUNTEER BADGE I CHOOSE TO WEAR WHILE I COLLECT SIGNATURES. By the way isn't the name of our library Hedberg PUBLIC LIBRARY!!!!????? I think they are in violation of our rights, but then that us nothing new to us...they continue to violate the constitutional rights of Americans and nothing is done Well in 2012 something will be done.

Wow nvgrf nothing like admitting that you committed 6 counts of fraud!

fearandrhetoric4dummies- You can rationalize your cause anyway you like, the fact of the matter is it is a huge waste of time, effort and money. You complain about Gov. Walker making a decision to end collective bargaining and then you "demand' a "new" governor to automatically restore collective bargaining and change things back to the way they were. What makes you think Russ Feingold or any other candidate is going to be your "liberal puppet" and bow down to the unions demands. I got news for you anyone that is elected will have their own agenda once they are in office and they won't be beholding to anyone.

What is sad is that all the "conservative" that CLAIM (but don't) love the constitution are happy with the Supreme Court ruling that Corporations are people and MONEY is speech but actual speech (occupy, recall petitioners) they don't like?
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How unbelieveably pathetic that Americans have more support for corporatists money controlling our government than they do for angry, passionate Americans attempting to gain some, ANY influence over THEIR government.
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Didn't know their was any traveling tea bag salesmen in the area.

The whole "the people have spoken" manure is amazingly hypocritical. These exact same tea party members were the people shouting down and congress members when they were creating Obama's health care plan. They were protesting and complaining when they were in the minority. Why didn't they just say "the people have spoken" and shut up then? Why did they file obstructionist lawsuits over the legislation - and then complain when the opposition does the same? Both sides pull the same tricks, but the extreme selfishness and hypocrisy of the tea party members is over the top. Let it be known that you have driven this conservative (and many others) away from your camp for good.

Monroemom it is sure funny that this us what your husband says as the news and people I See and Hear are just the opposite. Then again he must be meeting the right wing as they are the ones that are worried as WISCONSIN defending our rights has and I quote has made a difference in waking up other states Does Ohio and Mississippi ring a bell. Come 2012 all the country will feel the voice if the people. Recall Walker

bignik - You can sign petitions to recall both Gov. Walker and Lt. Gov. Kleefisch at the UAW Hall on Lafayette Street. (Next to Pick n Save, behind Eagle Inn Restaurant). For the recall, they are open Mon-Thurs 9 am to 9 pm, Friday 9 am to 7:30 pm, Saturday 9 am to 7 pm, Sunday 12 noon to 7 pm. I went to sign last week and it felt great to be part of this effort!

NVgrf - Thanks for just proving to everyone how screwed up and wrong the process is. You just made my day.

My husband travels all over the country for his job. When he tells people where he is from they laugh. Everyone that he comes across thinks all these protesters and recall supporters are nuts. Even California where they are extremely liberal think the same thing. We look extremely ignorant to the outside of Wisconsin world because now we have to pay for this recall election!!! How is this state ever going to improve when we are paying for unnecessary elections!!!

I support Gov Walker

I have signed six times, and I don't even live there. Recall Scooter!

PanamaRed - Conservatives only support the parts of our constitution that suits their needs.
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You are aware that liberals do the same right?

@ bassman & wislady: Through your comments, you are both revealing that you're filled with fear and hatred. Why are you afraid of people with clipboards? Asking someone if they'd like to sign a petition is not harassment. Take a deep breath, then turn off FOX, Rush and Vicki -- they're filled with hate and fear, too. I wish you both a Happy Thanksgiving.

As do the liberals Panama.....

Where do I sign the petition? I am amazed I have not seen one yet!!!

Its good to know the democratic process means so much to individuals like unclesmoothie and those who choose to tamper or destroy petitions. Conservatives only support the parts of our constitution that suits their needs.

tom3205- so let me get this right, what you are saying is that the leaches of society don't get involved unless they have to start paying their fair share?

Since when is asking someone to sign a petition harassment? What was this harassment? He should park outside the library, on the street, and do the same. If they move him then....

Walker was elected by 52% of THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED!!. Not 52% of all the people in Wisconsin. I think only 25% voted. That means Walker got 52% of 25%. I think the recall will bring out more then 25%. Then the actual election will also bring out more then 25%. To say "THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN", will then be more accurate. Since he was elected by about 13 or 14 % of the people, and say "THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN', is just stupid.

janesvillejoe - http://www.wisn.com/news/29837989/detail...

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Take it to the polls, that's what conservatives do, and your yelling doesn't change anyone's mind.

This whole frckng recall crap is getting so old. You don't like the current administration vote em out next time. Just want to scream. Look at all the occupiers, the unruly, unstable, anti civilians,..These people want to take everything and destroy democracy. STOP the f...ng madness or our civilization will be a Mad Max world.

The guy wasn't even paying attention... I signed 4 times at his little desk.

Apparently the Janesville library has been taken over by the same people who are trying to take over our state government. Seems to me that the right wing holds their Republican meetings there, as well as gosh isn't it the precinct voting center? Make no mistake, this state is under attack, and the Janesville Library is participating. I would suggest you be very concerned, because next your other rights will be taken too. Wish I was there, I would sign that petition to recall Scott Walker pronto.

The leftists in this town are clearly insane they keep doing the same thing over and over again hoping for a differant outcome to the idiocy they ply themselves to. This Prip moron is just another example of that.
These fools have destroyed the one big undustry we had here and they are not happy with that the union nickeled and dimed GM down to near failure with supporting lazy union workers. And they want the same for the state and the nation.

emac- I would disagree with you wholeheartedly. As a volunteer I will tell you I explain to EVERY person exactly what the petition is for , most times I don't have to. I have seen no one "blindly" signing the petition. So I would tell you if you think people signing won't vote, I think you are in for a very rude awakening. This movement is very well organized and people are passionate about this, and honestly it makes me proud to be a Wisconsinite and American. This shows we don't have to just swallow this, and we are not. Scott Walker is digging his own grave and he has NO ONE to blame but himself for this. He could have gotten MOST OF his wanted concessions by just negotiating like every other governor. This is quite simply an over reach by his administration and he is going to pay for it. He has already paid for it.

janesvillecomments, recall patriots won't stand between the stores and the shopping crowds on Black Friday. They'll be too busy with the crush of voters clamoring to sign the petition at the UAW Hall. Woo-woo! Recall Cullen? Here? In Janesville? LOL.

The democrats are being very intelligent by not revealing their candidate yet. why in the world would they open said candidate to criticism now from all of the outside of the state right wing PACs from the Kochs and others?
Its politically intelligent to wait until the signatures have been collected. Russ will not run I am very convinced of that now. It is unfortunate because he is a man that truly loves ths state, it has been a generation since we have had a governor that cares about the state. If you doubt that, then I ask you to look on youtube and watch Russ having a listening session in Waukesha county during the health care debate. He had listening sessions in every county , EVERY SINGLE YEAR he was in office.
Recalling Cullen? Good luck on that one, I would ask you to try, please, and you will find out how badly that one would work.
Cullen would make a GREAT candidate , so would Tom Barrett. Either one has a great chance to beat Walker. Again try to remember all the democratic candidate has to do is make a 3% swing to win. I think that all of this harassment rhetoric and hate speech coming from many on the right says that they are scared, and I believe with good reason. It shows that when power is threatened to be taken away people get defensive and are willing to attack others by any means possible.

Cullen should be recalled for running and hiding. I'll accept a failed attempt at the Governor's office from him if he will first resign as Senator of the district he only represents when he feels like it.

I'm pro-Walker because, for all his faults, he is far better than another dose of Doyle would have been. He signed the concealed carry bill that Doyle vetoed twice and bribed Sherman with a judicial position to turn his vote in a veto override vote. If nothing else, he's shaken up the fat, complacent pocket-stuffing and overspending Democrats in Wisconsin.

I pity the fool who tries to stand between the stores and the shopping crowds on Black Friday with a recall petition on a clipboard. (© Mr. T)

taxandspend, if you want a police state, go to China. You'll be welcome there and be able to shop local without going on the internet. You'll fit right in you Communist.

Poohbah you are right. This is a referendum AGAINST Walker and his buddies fitzgerald. Hence the name Fitzwalkerstan. But soon we will have it back to Wisconsin.

wislady,
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Maybe I'm not looking at the right websites. Can you point me to a link that demonstrates a plan by recall petitioners to 'harass' shoppers? Maybe something that includes this master plan where they provide a list of locations, as you've said they have already made and that is available online -- that I can take a look at? Thanks in advance.

totellthetruth, if you have been following my comments you know I live in a part of the city where we really, truly need to occasionally call 911. I myself called 911 at least 25 times in 2010. There is a reason they ask you to call the non-emergency number for situations that are not a matter of life and death urgency. It may be "legal" to call 911 but it does not place a higher priority on your calls when they go through dispatch; instead, it wastes taxpayer-supported resources and could endanger the life of someone who really needs it. Way to give out the advice there, bud.
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bassman, there is nothing illegal about making a political call to another state. The Republicans do that too. What law, exactly, do you suppose was being broken?
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As the city attorney states, it is not "illegal to do this on any government property". It is only illegal where the city has limited it, as they have for municipal buildings and as the library has done for its entire premises. If you know more about Wisconsin election law than the city attorney, please submit your application to the city manager.

I know some feel this will be a close election and feel the choice of the Democrat candidate is critical to a Democrat victory. I don't subscribe to that thinking. This is going to be a REFERENDUM AGAINST WALKER and moreso than a vote for his Democrat opponent.
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Feingold would be a fantastic candidate, but surely not the only one. Tim Cullen would also be a great candidate -- the type of person with a great deal of respect from colleagues on both sides of the aisle -- a man who could help to start the healing process the state so desperately needs.

Recallers know you don't gain welcoming support and signatures by harrassing people. That would anti-productive. Yet, Walker's supporters try to provoke and harass these patriots all the time. They will do anything to smear freedom, democracy and their good names. People like Lars are out there towing the line and doing the good. They are my heroes.

emac

It looks like they are expecting "Rusty" Feingold to run, even though he said he wouldn't.

fearandrhetoric4dummies-My point is getting someone to blindly sign a recall petition that has been brought to you as opposed to getting legally registered voters to the polls for a special election is a whole other thing. Not to mention the fact they don't even have a candidate to run against Gov. Walker.

janesvillejoe

Look it up for yourself, it is available online, along with the tactics they encourage the activists to use. I doubt people going to the Badger game are going to be excited about having petitions shoved in their faces.

Wislady:

I think you have it backwards. Didn't Vicki McKenna tell YOU to harass the recall petitioners, Unionistas, Blue Fisters or whatever other names she loves to call people? Why all the fear of a recall?

Well, I guess the sidewalks around the library will have to suffice. They are not library property.

He wanted to keep his petitions dry? How about the conservatives up north in Merril, who just wanted to keep their petitions intact, but had them wrecked by public sector union workers/supporters, shouting this is what democracy looks like? The fact that this happened to conservative recall volunteers, and not to Walker volunteers should be speaking volumes to people, but the ones who most need to hear have been deafened by the propaganda of the left

I wonder if it is legal to set up these petition spots in public parking areas adjacent to public streets. Sort of like a drive thru window and the traffic hazards it presents. Shouldn't police remove the hazard & the people doing it?

"library official claims recall petitioners had been harassing library patrons in recent days. " Because they are harassing people everywhere.
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BTW Janesvillian, Yuri Radishkins comments on his blog do not relay to what the law really says. If someone is breaking the law and trespassing and harassing you call 911. Calling the non-emergency number automatically puts a lower priority on your call folks.

wislady,
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What do you mean by harass? Just curious. Nobody would sign a petition if the petitioner was being a jerk. Can you explain? What are your sources?

May not be a 'billion' but I know 14 friends who voted for Walker that will not be voting for him again. Also add myself, my spouse, both sets of parents, my 4 brother-in-laws, their wives, my 6 siblings, their spouses, and the adult children. In all 53 lost votes for Walker that he had before.

emac- yes we will. Walker got 52% to win last time, what do you think he gets this time? Has he won over voters? I guess only time and opponent will tell.
Tim Cullen for Governor

Why is it that you Walker supporters are so ornry? Harassment? Just say no politely and move along. If a petitioner harasses you phone police.
Wislady are you trying to spread more false stories? You have shown to be good at it!:) Why are you such an ornry old thing? I hope that I run into you when collecting signatures.:) I will be smiling and respectful no matter what of anyone. I enjoy these people that are getting so bothered by free speech and feel harassed everywhere they go!
B assman , a heavty east coast accent? LOL, unlike wislady I certainly won't say you are lying but I think that your suspicions here are well, a little bit paranoid. Kinda like the 2 African_American young ladies that were accused by some of being fraudulent. LOL.

They can get a billion signatures on a recall petition and it doesn't change the fact that they will have to win a recall election before Gov. Walker can be removed. When the recall election takes place the voice of the people will be heard (again).

A comment - not supporting either side. With people having cell phones that can transfer wherever they go - an area code is often no longer indicative of where the individual is from.

bassman
Wait till Black Friday, they have planned to harass shoppers. I could provide the list of the locations set so far, but will not, as that would only help them.

Lars Prip did good. He didn't know that "some" public properties were exempt from political free speech protections. Who did know? Really. I don't think the Janesville attorney even knew for sure. Keep up the good work Lars!!

That is minor compared to some other of the antics they are trying to pull. First of all it is illegal to do any of this on Government Property,as far as private property they have to have permission. My wife got a call from a man that had a heavy eastern accent,@ 9 p.m from the area code 702 ? he said I am calling in regard to the recall of Gov Walker ,can I ask your age ? and if she was a registered voter ,she said hell no and yes I am and then hung up.Come on ,this area code is from Las Vegas,also they are trapping people at airports throughout the country,it is a desperate effort from the Dems to take control. Shameful !!!

Council member Yuri Rashkin requested and has published the city policies for political free speech activity on his blog here:
http://www.yurirashkin.blogspot.com/2011...
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One Wisconsin Now has published a document outlining the rights of petition circulators and signers under state law:
http://www.onewisconsinnow.org/images/20...