Sarah, seeing you brought cable news into the discussion I thought you wanted to discuss cable news...if not why bring it up?

"Did Fox mention that the military was simply not allowed to recruit at the career services building because they discriminate?"
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Yes fox news did. Commentators spout whatever they want...as posters here do as well.

Scott Walker is the only candidate who truly has the majority of tax paying residents in mind. He is an honest person and has stood behind everything that he brings forth. His position on the AZ issue was presented properly, how the AP slanted the statements is a different story.

Correction, it was at the Veterans Affairs office.

justaguy,
Do you really believe Fox is honest? Brit Hume saying he can't see the oil. "Where is the oil?"
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How about Hannity and his "she threw the military off Havard's campus"?
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Do you know military recruiting never, EVER stopped at Harvard? Did Fox tell you that Havard enlistments stayed the same or increase each year while she was Dean of the Law School?
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Did Fox mention that the military was simply not allowed to recruit at the career services building because they discriminate?
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Did they mention that the military continued recruitment at the military affairs building?
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just wondering

I wonder if George Orwell realized that society was bringing Big Brother on by breaking the rules... Or saw human nature at it's worst...

Last time. This guy didn't knee jerk. The original law was a bad law. Most honest people agree to that.
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The law, with the amendments, is much better. not perfect, but better.
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Walker was right with his initial reaction and fine with his position on the amended law.
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Those who blindly supported the original law are the ones who "knee jerked" their reaction.

I would bet that these two networks decided as a unit to pick a side (more controversy means more revenue) but I don't have the evidence to support it.

Viva La Arizona

Walker should have just taken a deep breath, read the law and come out in support of it when asked instead of kneejerkingly opposing it. I'll guess that by now that he's actually read the 10 page law, which is more than can be said for our Attorney General who has already publicly condemned the law, yet admitted in front of Congress that he hasn't read or been briefed on the whole 10 pages yet.

Funny though, I don't seem to see too many AP stories on the plethora of Tom Barrett flip flops or non actions posted on the Gazette. I'm sure that's just a coincidence though....

IMO there is alot of racism in here. Yes there needs to be a stop to illegal immigrants, but if so make it for all not just one group. To target a specific race or group of individuals is profiling no matter how you look at it and to try and justify it is pure ignorance IMO.....I guess until you see or feel ir first hand you will never know how frustating it is, And i have seen it as to the bi-racial children in my family and this community. The more I see how our government works and trys to dictate the very ones that elected them The more ANTI Government I am beginning to be. Sometimes i wish some of the posters in here would have to experience this type of harassment and humiliation. As how many legal ones will be subject to the law until they give proof which would be after the fact of humiliation and arrest. How many of the posters in here carry proof they are legal USA citizens? Like birth certificates, citizenship papers and or proof of entry into this country. Anyone can get a birth certificate to say they were born here.. Just a pondering thought. Were your original ancesters legal??????

Sarah, we could talk about how Chris Mathews on Monday's MSNBC Hardball show said he want's Obama to nationalize the oil industry...you know just like Chavez did in that little socialist country Venezuela. If you do let me know...

Until then we could talk about more rational things like a politician who changed his position based on facts.

sarahb1: The reason it MAY sound like fox news here is that it's the safest bet out there and more people watch it, people know that if they were to repeat things off MSNBC is that they'd sound just as dumb as that news channel .. they are a bunch of clowns and i'm not that far off on that statement either.

sarahb1: Your point is? Fox News tells it like it is but you sound to have a problem with that, you have repeated your comment many times also about Fox News but claim to have never watched it. Careful or you'll sound like eric holder :)

Eric Holder the Attorney General said he's thinking about suing Az new law on illegals but hasn't read the new law yet ... yes I find that abit funny myself ... good ole USA is in trouble if we have clowns like that running our country.To hell with legal's rights let's protect the illegals ... heaven help us.

Profiling? Drive to Mexico.You MUST purchase auto insurance from the government (thru Sanborns), go through Military check points every 150 miles or so (machine guns pointed at you from sand bag bunkers) and show your passport, proof of insurance then, with out of country plates you are pulled over and given random tickets BUT, if you give them $50 US Dollars you are let go without a ticket. Oh yeah, at no point will they attempt to speak english or get a translator.

stop the stuff about the Jews, at least they were legal citizens of the country they were in,,,I'm not discriminating at all, anyone here legal is welcome, and i know a lot of good people from mexico, its about breaking the law, anyone who is breaking the law is normally arrested, why are just a certain group allowed to get away with breaking laws, you want equal treatment for everyone except certain people from mexico, thats discrimination, and you guys hollering about it are the biggest discriminators...

Sounds like some cops in AZ don't like this law. From the AP:

Several Arizona police chiefs and sheriffs say, as hard as officers try not to profile, enforcing the law will inevitably lead to it. They say it will end up taking time away from solving crimes in their cities and towns.

"When you get a law that leads a state down this path, where the enforcement is targeted to a particular segment of the population, it's very difficult not to profile," said Phoenix Police Chief Jack Harris.

On Monday, police bosses from Maryland and Nevada condemned the law, saying that it could suck up vital resources and destroy delicate relationships with immigrant communities if implemented in their own states. There are at least nine other states considering similar legislation.

Police Chief Thomas Manger of Montgomery County, Md., in suburban Washington said he doesn't have the resources or the desire to enforce federal immigration violations by people who aren't disrupting the community.

"If they're not committing a crime here, frankly, I'm not sure how it enhances public safety to target those people for removal," he said.

This bill is no different than the federal bill that is already law. The only difference is that Arizona is willing to enforce it.
Between drug wars that are spilling over and the illegals taking over, Arizona is not a safe place to visit let alone a place to live. Are the citizens supposed to sit idly by and do nothing and continue to lose their state, property, and lives? Should legal citizens keep running to other states because they are losing theirs to illegal aliens and drug runners? Guess what??? When they have completely saturated AZ, they will push out to the next state.
The midwest is a hotbed of illegal aliens. It's not going to get any better because everyone decides that racial profiling may take place. Of course it will. Here's the truth...We are bombarded with illegal aliens from Mexico (mostly). Being from Mexico makes you hispanic. Hispanics have a certain look (as does every ethnicity). Therefore, if a cop pulls you over for a crime, sees your hispanic, he's going to question your legal status in this country. If you have your documents available, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Get your ticket and be on your way. If you don't, be prepared to sit in a holding cell until INS can determine your status. It's not a perfect system but it beats the heck out of doing nothing until the problems too big to deal with. It's a hard truth to hear but there is absolutely no way to solve the problem without racial profiling. Like all politics, put a different more pc word on it and it'll be all good and you can sleep at night.
For the record, there is an official language in the US (although unwritten). It's english. All of our ancestors who migrated here legally agreed upon it. It was a thing of honor to learn the language. A language represents a culture. America and all her glory is a culture. So, if you want to be an American, step one is speaking the language.

Profiling? So what? If they were here legally, then there is no problem. Blame the ones who are here illegally for the headache of carrying some extra paperwork.

NVgrf, your lame comments are interesting considering you are placing comments in other blog sections bashing this same law; so idiots from Nevada that toss eggs at buses know what is best for Arizona...while they criticize cheese heads for posting their opinions---hypocrite.

Very interesting....

Attorney General Eric Holder on NBC Meet the press "...the concern I have about the law that they have passed is that I think it has the possibility of leading to racial profiling and putting a wedge between law enforcement and a community that would, in fact, be profiled"

Today (May 13th) in front of the Department of Justice oversight hearing of the House Judiciary Committee Holder said something that IS ALARMING. When asked if he read the Az bill he said "I have not really". When further asked of his concerns on the bill and making judgments about it he stated "I've only made, made the comments that I've made on the basis of things that I've been able to glean by reading newspaper accounts, obviously, looking at television, talking to people who are on the review panel, on the review team that are looking at the law. But I've not reached any conclusions as yet with regard to. I've just expressed concerns on the basis of what I've heard about the law."

Lots of cheesehead experts on what is best for Arizona I see.

The law would give them the power to stop and check all persons of hispanic race and that would include the legal ones and that is RACIAL PROFILING, Are they going to do this with all people that are in this country with a foreign accent or background? How many Islamic/ Germans/ Asians/ and the list goes on, Are legally here? The some of the ones running our gas stations and resturants do not pay taxes either and then transfer into family members names when the time is up to give back. IMO Janesville needs lessons on Profiling IMO and anyone who believes it don't exist GET A SCANNER.......

Responsive (and coming to his senses)!

If he keeps heading in the right direction, he'll have my vote.

It is a good law but you know he's flip flopping on it bcuz of votes ... our government is weak. thekai: Get a grip and stop spreading fear.

ja67, unless you're getting rolled for your lunch money on the playground, I doubt anyone, legal or not is taking your hard earned money. If you're refering to tax money, then it's the government who is taking your hard earned $$, you just don't like how it's being distributed by our politicians. As for not paying taxes, they probably pay more than the rest of us as $$ is withheld for social security, state and federal taxes but I'm willing to bet that an illegal immigrant isn't going to file a tax return to get a refund. USA keeps it all.

Wow! a flip floper typical politician.

bravo ja67!!!!!

they just want people to come here legally, dont confuse the issue! before you judge talk to someone who summers in arizona towards the border see what they deal with. THEFT MURDER are a couple. so do not judge arizona we do not deal with the same problems. besides every state has the right to deal with things in there own way!

I'll vote for him, because we don't sneak across the border. It's just the Illegals one's from the southern border that is taking our hard earn money, then sending some back across the border. They pay no taxes, and yet receive welfare from our government. No wonder the USA is in trouble.

Boo Hardin724 and wiscchick. We are all decendents of LEGAL immigrants who came to this country and enterd it LEGALLY. This is about ILLEGAL immigrants coming over our borders ILLEGALLY. Try not to confuse the issue.

Bravo,hardin724.

MY POINT TO MY COMMENT IS THIS...IF WE WENT TO MEXICO, WE WOULD HAVE TO CROSS THE BORDER LEGALLY AFTER ALL HOW MANY OF US READ ABOUT AMERICANS SNEAKING OVER THE MEXICAN BORDER? FOR THOSE WHO COME HERE, JUST AS OUR ANCESTORS DID, YOU SPEAK AMERICAN, PAY YOUR TAXES, TAKE AN OATH. FOR THE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, I HAVE NO PROBLEM. IT IS ALL THE ILLEGALS (ALL THEM COUSIN JUANS GET OVER HERE, AND WHO GET JOBS FROM EMPLOYERS, WHO BY THE WAY NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF TATIC TO FIND OUT IF THEM "I.D" CARDS THEY HAVE ARE VALID), IT IS THE ILLEGALS WHO NEED TO GO BACK. WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR SOME OF YOU PEOPLE TO REALIZE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND A WORD THEY ARE SAYING WHEN THEY SPEAK THEIR LANGAUGE..JUST LIKE WE DIDNT UNDERSTAND THE JIBBERISH THEY PROBABLY SPOKE BEFORE 9/11

The people spoke and he listened. That's representation.

We are all immigrants or decendents of them. Obviously the Native Americans should be making these decisions on who can stay.

ringsforus
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The United States has no official language.
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Instead of blaming the illegals for being hired how about pointing that anger at the TRAITOR employers willing to hire an illegal immigrant over a fellow American citizen just to save a couple bucks?
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Great idea thekai. Perhaps we could shape the patches like six sided stars.

Won't all the politicians eventually come around for fear of not getting American votes at election time?

Regarding that statement from the campaign: Sounds like the man believes if they can't get health care/vaccine their children and can't obtain a driver's license, that we'll be protected? That is one heck of a plan to give jobs back to Americans who will then turn around and spend money in America.
Besides, nothing will change for them much in AZ, look at how often cops turn a blind eye as it is while still having the law on their side. It's too political and they all have personal opinions and reputations to protect. It's not like they are even going to be sending a person back a day. You can literally use any excuse to racially profile, add this to the list of reasons why we still can't protect the people of our country.

You people never cease to amaze me, a few years back when it was a member of the opposite party flip-flopping their views you had no problem condemning them and hanging them out to dry. When it's your own party they suddenly become a genius and you want to vote for him. Amazing, simply amazing.

I am with you now on this one Walker.....it is time that we DEPORT ILLEGALS, and those that are legal, may stay. However, start using OUR language....its rude at the workplace to speak in foreign words....after all, if you did not understand what we were saying you would be the first ones to scream some sort of discrimination. If we remove the illegals that are working in our area, jobs would open up by the hundreds allowing our men and women of the community to get jobs......thus cutting back on the amount of people on unemployment.....its a win win situation here with this bill.

freddog
I like the patch idea, easier to round up and send back then, they are criminals you know,,,
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thekai
Hey, I know, why don't we just make all of the legal immigrants wear a patch on their outer clothing, something that represents them like, maybe an old Mayan/Aztec symbol... that way, we can tell them apart from everyone else.

Yeah, that sounds like a great idea...
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OkieFed
I don't know about a patch on the outer clothing. Too easy to remove. I would propose that any illegal immigrant deported be implanted with a type of GPS tracking microchip to ensure that they stay where they belong.
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“Jews were required to wear a yellow star, Jews were forbidden to use trams, Jews were required to turn in their bicycles, Jews were forbidden to use any public sports centers, Jews were not allowed to watch any form of entertainment and so on”

So Walker is a politician who bases his opinions on the facts in evidence instead of blind belief in established dogma? Works for me! :-) Given the headline, the only credibility lost here was that of the alleged "journalists" involved.

I like the patch idea, easier to round up and send back then, they are criminals you know,,,

Thank the AP for their wonderful skewed interpretations!

After discussing with several state legislators who both authored and sponsored the new law in Arizona, I’m satisfied that the amended bill provides adequate protections against racial profiling and discrimination.
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Bad article headline. He NEVER changed position. He is now "satisfied that the AMENDED BILL"... The original bill was a bad bill and would have led to racial profiling.
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I doubt I will agree with Mr. Walker on much but on this...he is correct.

Below please find a statement by Scott Walker provided by the campaign:

“I sympathize with the people of Arizona who are victimized by violence, crime and property damage as a result of illegal immigration. After discussing with several state legislators who both authored and sponsored the new law in Arizona, I’m satisfied that the amended bill provides adequate protections against racial profiling and discrimination. A police officer may only inquire about the immigration status of persons they have stopped, detained, or arrested for other reasons.

In addition, earlier decisions by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals satisfy my concern about any conflicts with the 10th Amendment. If I were Governor of Arizona, I too would sign the Arizona immigration bill.

As Governor of Wisconsin, I will sign legislation that strengthens our protection against illegal immigration and ensures that taxpayer funded benefits like Badger Care and drivers licenses are not available to those who are here illegally.”

Good that he was open-minded enough to get more information and change his mind. Bad that he initially knee-jerk believed the "racial profiling" claim.
Moreover, we now know that the southern border is where illegal Middle Easterners often cross - they learn Spanish and blend in with Latin American illegals crossing into the US.

Let's sign the same law here! The law can profile me all day long.

Arizona has the right idea. He's got my vote.

Hey, I know, why don't we just make all of the legal immigrants wear a patch on their outer clothing, something that represents them like, maybe an old Mayan/Aztec symbol... that way, we can tell them apart from everyone else.

Yeah, that sounds like a great idea...

More "Ripley's" believe it or not politics.

If he is for it. He has my vote for sure