One step closer to concealed carry

Beeferer: Thank you! You have to be the only one who sees the total picture!

Had a friend that was a const. superintendant at a job in Milwaukee in the "hood". Every Friday nite he had to wait for the security gaurd to get to the job. In the winter no one was around, but come spring there was roving bands of young blacks walking the streets. He started bringing an automatic pistol with him on fridays as he always had to wait for the gaurd sometimes till' 6 at nite.One friday 5 blacks started to aproach his truck, he picked up his pistol and waved it back and forth in the truck, shook his head "no" and the punks eyes got big and they beat feet away as fast as they could.He said he didn't know what would have happened without his pistol.The lesson here is obvious!!

No mention as to whether a firearm is uncased it can also be loaded.

The article does not make sense...

It says "would allow people to transport uncased weapons."

but follows up with..."if the vehicle is stationary."

so it reads to me that it's only ok to have a uncased firearm in a vehicle if the vehicle is PARKED.

best part of this is that while working on this bill they are not coming up with new ways to spend my money.

This law makes perfect sense. If out hunting multiple plots in a day, such as pheasant or grouse hunting, I currently need to cycle the action on my firearm and run the rounds through. This cycling is the time when you would be most apt to have an accidental discharge. Unloading and reloading to drive two miles down the road can get very old very quickly. Current law says you cannot even have a firearm loaded in or ON a vehicle ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. If I'm deer hunting on lumber land and want to hop in the truck and go down the logging road to another stand I have to stop and take the time and danger of unloading and reloading. It is really unnecessary handling of the action. By the way current law applies to four wheelers and ATV's as well. If a farmer is cruising around mending fences it is pretty common for them to bring along a rifle in case they see varmint such as coyote. Additionally current state law says that open carry is perfectly legal in WI. Any citizen that wishes to can openly carry a handgun on their side in a holster as long as it is in open view and they are not in a school zone, alcohol serving business, or Govt. building. Attorney General Van Hollon and Gov. Doyle have reaffirmed open carry themselves. What is the difference if I am carrying on my hip in a store or in my vehicle? If I'm just fine to walk into a restaurant with my handgun holstered on my side what difference does it make if I'm sitting in my own personal vehicle? My own personal vehicle has been reaffirmed by mutilple courts to have the same protectins against illegal search and seizure as my home. In the courts view, in multiple cases, my vehicle is in essance my personal habitat and should be offered the same protections as my personal home. If I were carrying a handgun on my side in the open as WI law states I have to do if I want to carry, once again we face the situation of unnecessary handlling of the gun every time I get in and out of my vehicle. Every state that has Concealed carry permits, which is the vast majority of the states in the nation with the exception of WI and IL, allows loaded concealed carry in a vehicle. WI could solve all this by reforming it's laws to match those of other constitutional freedom loving states and passing concealed carry legislation. I personally think Alaska's laws would be the perfect example to follow.

Senate Bill 222
http://www.legis.state.wi.us/2009/data/S...

This bill also expands the exceptions to general restrictions on possessing or
transporting a firearm, bow, or crossbow in or on a vehicle. Under current law, with
certain exceptions, no person may place, possess, or transport (place) a firearm, bow,
or crossbow in or on a vehicle unless: 1) for a firearm, the firearm is unloaded and
completely enclosed in a case that is made for the purpose of containing a firearm;
or 2) for a bow or crossbow, the bow or crossbow is either unstrung or enclosed in a
carrying case. This bill eliminates the requirement that an unloaded firearm placed
in a vehicle be in a case. The bill also provides that the prohibitions against the
placement of a firearm, bow, or crossbow in a vehicle do not apply if the vehicle is
stationary. The bill does not change the current law prohibition against shooting a
firearm, bolt, or arrow from a vehicle.

Finally, I can get to my gun quickly, to shoot these ferrel cats in Wuthering Hills. Bye, bye puddy tats!

truth1: The article IS confusing, in fact it makes no sense as written. I looked closer, and I see nothing in the article regarding "leaning on a vehicle". You also say "The 'transport' part is separate".
Please explain!

Whether or not its stupid idea is irrelevant. I support the idea of less restrictions.

The article may seem confusing, but look closer...Currently, you can't shoot a gun while leaning on a vehicle, the change would allow that...The "transport" part is separate.

Many farmers and hunters up north (bear and increasingly cougar country) regularly open carry sidearms in an open belt holster. Driving to and from their property on the road, checking fences, whatever, becomes a real nuisance quickly taking off your belt, putting firearm in case in trunk 5X before you get home. This is a simple fix to our existing open carry law.

Welcome to Texas is right. What a dumb proposal to keep firearms not in a case in a moving vehicle and unloaded for sure. The guy who came up with this in the legislator should be impeached and all that support it - get out of the govt. and get people in there to help us out in the economy deciding important issues like education/schools and more jobs.

I thought beeferer was just being humourous, until I re-read the article.
First line: "The state Senate is set to consider a bill next week that would allow people to transport uncased weapons." (the key word being "transport").
Third paragraph: "The bill would eliminate the case requirement for firearms and eliminate all prohibitions on firearms, bows and crossbows in a vehicle if the vehicle is stationary". (the key word being "stationary").
This article makes no sense as written.

I think this is a great idea.

Whatever George- That would probably be the only case where this would make sense because I have set my gun in the truck bed while getting the case out of the cab rather than set it down in the snow. Otherwise, I see no other reason for this. I also definitely agree with the people who post that there are more important things for our legislators to deal with first.

This is all fine and dandy, but I wonder if somebody could please explain to me how can an individual transport an uncased weapon in a stationary vehicle? Doesn't this defy the fundamental laws of physics?

I dont think that you would want to wait 10 to 20 minutes for the cops to show up while your trying to scream...NO...DONT...STOP...HELP!...HELP!!!... as the knife plunges into your chest...as the rapist violates your every human right and dont forget...you cant have a firearm on your possession.

Lets remember that the firearm is only "not in a case." The Bill doesnt say it can be loaded. And why does this matter raise so many eyebrows? There are plenty of violent criminals out there carrying them now. Think about that while your at the mall or downtown in your car and you arent sure what the bad guy is thinking, but think what can i do to protect myself...NOTHING...call the police and wait for thme to show up and then give them the description of the man/woman that took your life...oh wait...you cant.

Protect Our Second Amendment...Protect Yourself...Dont Protect The Bad Guy

Lets just take this Bill for the ride and understand this is not the only thing happening in our captial. I don't agree with out states leader and do not believe he is going to be re-elected but this may be what he is doing to save himself from his fear of being removed from office.
This may seem idiotic to most of you but this may be the first stepping stone for WI to allow Concealed_carry Weapons. Wouldnt you like to be able to protect yourself, family and friends? I think that the car-jacker, rapist, or murderer is going to think twice before he picks his victim...wouldnt you? Not knowing whether someone is armed with a gun may change that criminals mind. Look at the statistics for violent crime rates for states that allow its citizens CCW before the law was enacted and after and you tell me if there is a difference. Ponder on your thoguhts before you go making rash decisions and ideas about law-abiding citizens carrying weapons.

Anyone out there ever received a citation from the DNR for setting an unloaded uncased gun on the tailgate of their truck while getting ready to go bird hunting? That's what makes this a good deal. Maybe one less thing the "wonderful and brilliant" DNR can bother me about.

Why aren't we required to carry the guns in the trunk of the car only? Or are we?

Welcome to Texas

Better allow open intoxicants in the car, too. That way they have another excuse to why they are shooting from the road towards me.
Better include the "shoot back" clause.

This is the best legislation that the State Senate Majority Leader has up his sleeve? As a gun owner, gun hunter, and bow hunter, I have never had a problem casing my weapons. I would not change this practice even if this law passes.

Duh!! Our state is in a financial free fall and we are talking about allowing uncased weapons in vehicles!! What a bunch of numbnuts!!

Sorry fingers to fast this AM "purpose"

Seems like a waste of our legislatures time, the vehcile needs to be stationary so what is the purpase?

Only one if your out hunting & weather is bad or cold & you would need to fix the weapon . That being the only time. Other wise it's not a good idea

I hunt. I own firearms and bows both. Initial reaction is still "Well, that's stupid!" Could someone out there explain what benefit we (hunters and/or just regular gun owners) would gain by having uncased weapons in our vehicle?