"Are there no prisons? And the Union workhouses, are they still in operation?"

"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."

"If they would rather die,' said Scrooge, 'they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

Perhaps we should all just sit back and let "the government" support our every need! Let's see how long it is before the illusory perpetual entitlement program collapses. There are surely some who deserve help, but far too many who have merely figured out how to work the system as it exists today ($20 MILLION in known daycare fraud in WI alone!!!). Sadly, the massive lactating teet of this misguided human kindness will one day run dry when the suckers outnumber the sucked!

What the hell?

Hey Pete, you state that "This report is vague.." yet your post is replete with unsubstantiated information. The report may be vague, as reported here, but its not misleading. Since the Health Care debate began, there have been independent reports which all reach the same conclusion; unless reform is passed the near term future cost of health care will far EXCEED today's cost. If you think a public option will raise your taxes substantially, just wait to see what happens WITHOUT the public option. The cost of treating illegal aliens is miniscule compared to CEO pay and profits earned by insurance companies. Time is rapidly passing for those who oppose whats been proposed (to date) to step up and offer legitimate stop gap measures which limit abuse by non-citizens, tort reform and a reasonable alternative to "for profit" insurance brokers.

Medicare is not a voluntary program. The gov takes the medicare taxes out of pay checks when you land a job. Medicare is also deducted from Social Security checks when you turn 65. Then since medicare guts the doctors & hospital fees you should buy a supplemental insurance. Now the gov says medicare costs them too much, so they will cut medicare. $500 billion cut is the whole program. Young people are already paying for health insurance, they just don't get it until 65, or never. This will be another broken promise. The surplus is gone, Congress gave it away. Article one section 8 U.S. Constitution

That should be obvious. I am sure that the insurance companies spare no expense in making the plans for members of Congress comprehensive and affordable. More than one member of Congress has said "What health insurance problem? The plan that I have for my family is very good and very affordable." This is a lobbying effort at the expense of all of the other policyholders.

Government employees typically get paid less than what they could get in the private sector, hence they receive better benefits to offset the lower pay. Note that health insurance isn't free for elected officials, nor are the plans they pick from run by the government. Participants still must pay premiums, co-pays, deductables, etc. They just pay less than the average person, and have more insurance plans to choose from to fit their needs. Insurance companies compete for the right to be in the "pool", and since their are so many people in the pool, prices can be negotiated lower. Sound familiar?

No one has been able to explain to me the reason that our elected representatives have a health plan that is above and beyond better than anyone else has.

I agree, helge1939: every American should have access to a nationalized health system, across the board. Thanks for your support.

It is not "trash talk" to state the truth. The greed and sense of entitlement expressed by those opposed to reform is truly disgusting and evil.

Glad I'm not one of your friends if your gonna come here and trash talk them. My friends watch my back.

Many of my friends who regularly take advantage of the government program called Medicare complain that they "don't wantthe government running any socialist health care program." As you can see, they just don't get it. When I suggest Medicare from birth to death, they scream like little girls. They want government health care for themselves, but don't want anyone else to have it.

If we need health reform then give us the same Health Care our so call'ed leader's in gov. office have how much easyer can it be?