I also want to add I dont agree with our "sue happy - If I dont get what I want i will sue" world we live in at all. I do however agree that this should have been stopped.

Yep - Thats fine ALL woman stay at home shop on line work from home dont go out you should NOT feel safe anywhere cause security is there for the building and not you!! Like I said if you knew about the mall or its security at all you might know but whatever

The word "Security" maybe the wrong choice to identify what these men and women are providing at the mall. Maybe it should be "Customer On-site Care" or "Property Patrol". Because facebooker_09 and others believe that the word "security" must imply that the Mall is providing SWAT and Big Brother surveillance for everyone in the parking lot. Is "Security" at a concert to protect you the fans? No, they're protecting the performer and the stage. I'm sure the Mall uses "Security" to protect their properties. They don't call it "Customer Security", because it isn't that type of protection.

Im so glad you have you here to tell us how it is Reliable_Source. (since you can see me Ill tell you I rolled my eyes at both your posts. FACT)

Okay I have to comment on one more thing. What are more cameras in the parking lot going to do for you during a crime? Businesses are barely staying open right now. This isn't Vegas where they have people watching every camera live all day. They just record crimes. A secured building with a gazillion cameras didn't stop that college girl from being chocked to death, or help them fined her for five days. Use some common sense or just stay home!

To Pat and everyone else who has absolutely no clue of what they're talking about.

#1-Yes, the mall parking lot property is private. But, not all areas are actually owned by the mall. Two or three areas are actually owned by the department anchor stores. (Fact!)

#2-Kohls & the Mall settled, (i.e. things must have been going bad.)-(False) Lets see, the trial was suppose to go for ten days, with all the "expert" testimonies the plantiff lawyer's had lined up. But, it only went three days? (Why?) Either things were going really good or really bad for the plaintiff. If you read the online comments from last weeks front page story it was 9 to 1 against the lawsuit, in favor of Kohls & the Mall. That could be a sampling of your jury pool. Just maybe the experts didn't pan out, or that the plaintiff's lawyers didn't make their case. If things are going really good you send it to the jury. You've got to know that getting it to the jury is where the big payoff was for them. (i.e. $,$$$,$$$!) (Didn't Happen!)
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#3 I hope Kohls/Mall go after the criminal for financial restitution. (What?) I hope the poor lady who was victimized, goes after that bastard's estate and takes it all. Screw Kohl's & the Mall, They're not missing any bonus monies over this settlement. This was just business. (Sadly, true.)

i think the malls problem with defending this, they provide security , they place them out their in the public s view, to imply that their location is secure and safe. all they would have to do is prove one employee didnt receive proper training , failed to make a regular check of the parking lot and it would of been an easy win. they put cameras in the parking lot of a movie threatre to keep people from bashing in windows to steal personal belongings ,if they can afford them there i dont see why the mall couldnt afford them too.

Oh I do but after having worked at the mall and having to be escorted out at night by security because a fellow mall employee was acting in a "stalkerish behavior " I was told by the head of security that they are there to make all of us safe got about a 30 minute talk about how they are all here for us. I was reacting more to the people who say that JPD should have done something. That is not their job it is mall securitys job.

I understand that, but they can't always be at an exact place at the exact time. That is not realistic. If I recall, she was forced into a van. If someone didn't see that happen, at that exact time, how were they to know about it? Let's stop blaming everyone else and blame the criminal.

not* by they way before someone jumps on a typo

The janesville mall is nto that big, it does not take that long to get around it. Did she just say ok and not fight at all??? Security isnt driving around to look pretty they are supposed to be watching for things going on that shouldnt be.

And what if the security vehicle was on the other side of the mall patrolling when this incident occurred? I just think that's the point some people are trying to make. Not everything in life can be completed prevented. It's unfortunate.

If you knew any of the security guards or how they worked or what they were SUPPOSED to be doing this may never have happened. There is always supposed to be someone roving around the parking lot. That is why they have the security car.

B. S. Do you people realize what you are asking?? Come on- get real, you cannot be babysat everywhere you go, while doing everything you do.. Geez if that was the case the courts would be so clogged it would be insane with you sue happy people..

Scenario- I am at the mall, its 8:30 and pretty dark, I have been forced to park down near the dumpsters out back of Kohls- there are SUV`s parked on each side of me and my teenie tiny Grand Am- as I go to enter my car I am grabbed and pushed into a truck.

No one really could see that! It could happen in a split second! Even in broad daylight!

Scenario 2.. I am shopping at a store and a gunman walks right in and starts shooting.

WELL, where were all the security guards?? Why didnt the cameras show this all in advance? I mean gosh- it could have all been stopped --RIGHT??

Ummm, no. We can NEVER predict the unpredictable nor prepare ENOUGH for whatever we think "may" happen .. Not ever.

Pat - You just proved my point. A sue happy World.

spark, not out of touch at all. There are many lawsuits filed everyday, right here in Wisconsin that have less merit than this one.

Just a guy I for once agree with you! It IS the mall Securitys Job to SECURE!! Where was the officer who was supposed to be roving in the security car?! After haaving a family member who did security about 8 years ago there when security was actyally taken seriously - this would not have happened?! Now I feel like I need peperspray in the parking lot because I at 5 foot 5 could handel taking an of teh secuity on. AND my mom did slip and fall a couple of years ago right out side Kohls - Kohls helped out alot in getting her inside and calling 011 then calling me and making sure she was ok till I got there. THE MALL DID NOTHING! Not a darn thing at all. Why did she slip and fall because the MALL employees who were supposed to salt hadnt done so yet that day.
This poor woman isnt the only one who has to live with this. I hope who ever was supposed to be roving around that night feels bad every day for the rest of his life.
Who should JPD have been there? Its not their jobs to secure the mall it is ERMC SECURITYS job!

mickie - Very well said. We all have to look out for ourselves and the laws should be adjusted to provide the possible victim with the freedom to do so if such an attack should be attempted. In other words, whatever it takes to defend, we should be allowed.

Pat- That's being a little out of touch with reality. Sorry. We live in a sue happy World, it's that simple.

tiredofhearingit-- yes its possible. How far it would get in court is another issue.

Private or not. No one can completely ensure another persons safety. Look at the public school systems.. Even with all their security, cameras etc.. They cannot ensure safety. No place can. Its ridiculous and misleading to believe that!

pat; so based upon your legal analysis, are we to assume you'd be sued in the following scenario: suppose a woman is walking on your sidewalk & is attacked & raped from a guy hiding behind one of your bushes in the front yard - you would be liable? if so - I hope he doesnt scrape his knee in the tusle or you'll be getting two lawsuits thrown at you.

The key here is private property. They have a responsibility to provide safety precautions. Just like a homeowner/landlord must maintain his property or take the chance of getting sued . It is private property.

This was not some accident caused by a faulty railing, the effect being a broken arm. This was not a crime caused by some security guard not making his rounds resulting in a rape. This was a crime committed by another party. Just as you wont be liable if a drunk driver runs up on your lawn and kills a pedestrian. Completely different ballgame. If she would have fallen in a pothole and broke her ankle, then yes that is the malls responsibility. Not a felony, what if a mall cop would have tried to step in and got shot? would she have been liable for getting raped and causing him to come to her aid? this is not a negligence case, this is a felony.

No cause or merit?? What type of case would that be? Does everyone remember that guy who broke into that guy's house here in Janesville and I believe he fell through the roof, or was he shot? I can't remember that part. But this thief actually sued the homeowner , because I believe he is paralyzed , he tried suing but the Judge tossed it before it ever got into the court. This lady did not assault herself and she was on private property, she had the right to expect certain safety measures be taken. The court obviously agreed.

It looks like jarvis53121 is a bit out of touch with how the law works. It's a good thing his thoughts are not law, or we would all be screwed. Kohls/Mall is just as responsible for personal safety as you are for someone who is on your property.

If someone falls of your porch, because your railing is crap, and rotten. You are legally liable and can be sued. Even if you were not aware of the condition of the railing. They are on your property, and you are responsible. Same thing with the mall, they have a responsibility to protect there customers.

This never would have gotten as far as it did if it was not a strong case.

Many cases are tossed before anyone steps into a court room , because there is no 'cause.'

This one made it and there is a reason for that.

To many people commenting on here who do not know the law and think they should get to re-write it.

jarvis53121-- hate to burst your bubble , but your example of the flower bed, that happens more often than you think. Even if the person should have never have been on your property you can be sued. Example, would be the newspaper boy, if he trips coming down your steps because there is a piece loose, his parents can sue you. If someone chases their dog into your yard trying to catch it, and they twist their ankle in a 'gopher' hole in your yard, they can sue you. It happens more often than anyone would like to think about, you just don't hear about it. I work insurance and see all sorts of claims, that just blow one away, thinking about it.

Kohls/Mall did have some responsibility in this, the Judge thought so as well or it would have gotten tossed before it got this far.

That is the first step in lawsuits a Judge has to decide is the case has merit, and evidently it did.

It's your argument that is ridiculous because if the common man can be held responsible for someone twisting their ankle in a gopher hole, while chasing their dog in someone Else's yard, when they were not invited. You can be damn sure a cooperation like Kohls/Mall is liable for the safety of its customers on its property.

Go to the court house some time, and take a look at all of the civil suits over 500,000 that involve damages from injury on personal property.

pat, that is about the dumbest thing ive heard in a long time, your analogies are junk. This woman was raped, she doesnt have a sprained ankle or a broken leg because someone forgot to chip the ice off the steps. In order to sue someone, on your house property or on the mall property you have to prove negligence. If someone is walking past my house and a drive by shooter kills them and they die on my property do i get sued for it? no. I wasnt negligent. By your logic i could twist my ankle on someones flower bed when they arent home and sue them, thats simply not how it works.

gztreader it is the mall and kohls who are going to be paying that money, actually their insurance company. This @%@**&^%^%^& had no money, he just went around committing crimes against the public. I heard his estate is now suing the police dept, because he hung himself in jail. I hope is THEY settle KOHLS/MALL goes after his estate for that money. Which they may do. AS he committed this horrible act. THEY (as much as they did not do this.) do not deserve a dime and should be embarrassed for even pursuing such a lawsuit.He confessed I really do hope KOHLS/MAll goes after them if they do get a dime.

You people who are bashing the victim are the most pathetic type of human being there is . She deserves every dime she gets, which after lawyer fee's and taxes won't be that much. Kohls and the Mall is private property, as such they are responsible for the safety of anyone who enters their property. Just like if someone gets hurt on your property YOU are responsible, even if you could not control it. THAT is why you have home owners insurance, god forbid something happens. BECAUSE we can't control what happens in our lives. The mall and Kohls protects the inside of their buildings and the people in it, they need to protect the outside as well, it belongs to them. SHE SETTLED, because she was not looking for a ton of money, and being raped is bad enough , and she is tired. KOHLS and The MALL are the ones who initiated the settlement, not her. WHY?? DID they? Because it was costing them a fortune, and there was no guarantee they were not going to lose. JUST like if someone breaks their leg on your property and they sue you, YOU will lose. MORE than likely because your insurance company will settle long before it goes to trial. IT is very costly for them.

mymaro, that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard ' she stole the money from kohls and the mall' ??? That is just stupid. Kohls and the Mall protect them selves very well. Security inside the mall, cameras, security devices on their retail items, plain clothes employees walking and monitoring the store. Yet when it comes to their very own parking lot they do not do squat. The parking lot is PRIVATE PROPERTY, IT IS THEIRS , but yet there are NO security measures taken out there. THEY would never ALLOW a customer to hurt another customer in the store, the same should apply for the parking lot.

The only way to know what happened in court was to be there. You can't get it from CCAP. It does look like she will get up to 1 million from his estate or whatever his estate was. Hopefully it was something that can help put this behind.

I'm confused. Wisconson Court Access says she was awarded 1,000,000 from the Estate of Christopher Brown. It says "no" for multiple debtors. Makes it sound like the store was NOT found liable and the only money will come frome whatever the guy who raped her had.

"She won and the mall knew that if it went to the courts she would have won bigger, why?" Umm if thats true then why did SHE settle? Obviously answer if you want to but please address small business and their lack of any security. Oh and " As for walmart wasn't that over drugs or something? nothing wal mart did so why would they have to worry? and with all the cameras they have I think they have their butt covered pretty good." In this case....nothing the mall did so why would they have to worry?

When will people realize that concealed carry is one of the few ways to stop thugs, rapists, ect. Florida had a big drop in car-jackings and other crimes when they adopted concealed carry. Wisconsin needs concealed carry. If you don't feel comfortable with a gun, then you are not a person who should carry concealed.

She won and the mall knew that if it went to the courts she would have won bigger, why? maybe they knew they could have done more at the time but didn't bother to and they knew a jury might see it the same way. As for wal mart wasn't that over drugs or something? nothing wal mart did so why would they have to worry? and with all the cameras they have I think they have their butt covered pretty good.

"Premises Liability Law"

justaguy-little mind? Take it easy. She did not WIN it was settled, it happens all the time. Sadly it is cheaper to settle then to fight and win. So do you think Mocha Moments now MUST have guards and cameras?

Another horrible crime, no doubt. Yet as a woman, I do not- nor cannot expect anyone but myself to be responsible for my safety accept for ME. I do not see where suing the Mall does any good. Ladies carry mace, learn self protection methods etc.. Do what you can yourself. Even in the highest places of security- crimes happen. Look at Yale.

Hey, if you don't like someone's opinions just focus on the story and other posters. No one's making anyone bash anyone else. Stop the bashing.

P.S. She is also sueing this scum bag dead or not and I hope she wins.

mymaro: NO her pain won't go away but I bet this will get more cameras out in the parking lot and a better eye on what goes on at the mall so this might not happen again. Who do you think should make the MALL'S parking lot safer? or should just anything be allowed to go on out in the parking lot? The mall is a service that deals with money and items of value and it is their parking lot .... think about it.

outdoors: You need to stop thinking with a little mind, This Lady won didn't she? If the mall had used cameras or had more mall cops driving around they may had a better case or stopped this from happening all together. Does it hurt to have a camera in and out of a store for safety reasons? I think not and it's only covering the store's butt. Before you knock me for my thoughts maybe you should relook at your own ... you are the absurd one here.

justaguy-If I was robbed by gangs in the parking lot, it was not the malls fault. With your point of view, the little coffee shop I go to would be out of business, unable to afford cameras and security to watch it. Be real, if every business were required to provide security cost of goods would skyrocket....your angle is absurd.

This woman suffered a horrible act. I hope that she is taking steps to get any help she needs. Excellent post ladystardust.

Basic security measures to prevent rape(crime):proper lighting, rent-a-cops on patrol,secured live surveillance (with a real A/V guy watching all screens with the ability to report to the JPD during an attack, shoplifting,disorderly conduct or any other crimes) Like other stores, The mall is supposed to be a safe environment, they want you the consumer to feel welcome, and they want you to know that they do not tolerate crime, that's why there's plastic pin tags on that dress your checking out, then when u try it on in the dressing room there's 7 signs telling you not to shoplift, then as you pay for your products you walk out through two alarm gates that can be triggered if your stealing. You walk out to the parking lot and you see stop signs, pedestrian signs, yellow pavement marking to show where the safe path is to drive/walk etc. Going to the car you pass signs saying No Loitering, Customer Parking Only, Vehicles will be towed at owner's expense. OBVIOUSLY the MALL and any other corporation bought a piece of property and said "This is ours, we are responsible for it. We need signs, gadgets, alarms, security guards" With all the money they paid out to keep their "bottom line" safe, it's no wonder they just care about their reputation. You need to remember corporations are not PEOPLE. They do not have the right to vote (they just pay the guy who got voted for to do their bidding) Yes, HANNAH, people run corporations, but they do not act like humans because they do not care who gets hurt or what damages are done unless it effects their sales and their stockholders. I am sorry to Michelle Young but I give her a high five for taking down the man and getting the general public to talk about an issue that would otherwise be focused on an ice arena or a dying gm.

Well, he has a valid point.

I know what he was being .... it's just where he was taking it to is why I made a remark.

justaguy - mymaro was being sarcastic to make a point. You people all need to seriously relax and look at the other points people are trying to make here.

People do need to look up the phrase duty of care. Despite varying opinions here, the legal precedents are pretty clear. A settlement was inevitable because the mall would lose at trial.

mymaro: Don't be a stupid, that is why drivers have insurance .... get a clue.

Wow! I guess I am not the only person who is tired of skipping over Hannah's nonsensical posts or defending myself from her off base attacks. She has 42 posts today! Hardly a record for her, but still a pretty good effort when I see how many people she has ticked off in this one article. I didn't read your posts Hannah, I promised I wouldn't but I am reading the posts commenting on you. Don't bother telling me to shove anything up my posterior orifice this time, I won't be reading it.

http://www.suicide.org/rape-victims-pron...

hannah quit talking about closure , there is absolutely none when you are raped. It does not matter if that person is dead or alive, in prison or walking the street. It is a life changing event, and things are never the same again. The victim has to learn how to 'live' all over again. It takes some years, and years, . Some never do learn how to take their lives back. HERE is a question for all of you. What is the suicide rate among RAPE victims?

Pete - Nobody is saying things to make the victim feel worse. It's horrible what happened, but it's not the malls fault. Crime is all around us and a terrible thing. The JPD cannot prevent everything from happening. Sorry, but that is impossible. If people want to sit here and start blaming, I ask everyone to remember one thing. WI is one of only two states that doesn't allow you to conceal and carry a handgun. Think about that next time something this horrible happens. People should have a right to protect themselves when others can't during a particular moment and split second situation. No mercy for the criminal. Period.

I think his estate was being sued as well. Which would make them the debtor. If I am wrong some one please clarify.

read the frickin post hannah before you accuse someone of something. I never said you should be assaulted. Some times I think hannah is a 8 year old kid posting who is bored to death at home. Then I thought about it and realize a 8 year old would have more common sense. My apologies to all 8 year olds out there.

However, good luck on that.

hannah: Please don't start ragging on me, I've stood up for you acouple of times when people have said bad things out you, it seems safer from things i've seen key word being "seems" safer. I can have my own thought can't I hannah? would you rather the mall take out all the cameras and stop having the mall cops driving around the parking lot? why are you always a downer hannan?

SEL1985 - That court case lists the "Estate of Christopher Brown" as "Debtor". Did I miss something else?

people go after you hannnah because you are always trashing the victim. Even when they die, you trash them. You have got to be about the most clueless person who posts on here. Do you read your posts , before you post them? That poor young man that died a month ago, you start bashing him , saying he should not have been drinking, when the article never said anything about drinking. How sick are you? By the way there was no alcohol involved in that accident, as far as anyone knows he just lost control or fell asleep. But regardless you wanted to accuse him of something he never did. You are sick, and the rest of us are suppose to put up with your off the wall comments , because you speak regardless if you know what you are talking about or not. You must not have any filter in your brain at all.

Hello Gazette - please make hannah GO AWAY!!!

As much as I would just like to ignore her stupid comments, she posts so much it's hard to read what anyone with a valid well thought out opinion actually has to say. Sorry to get off topic - but seriously!!!

OMG Hannah CC never said you should be assaulted. Never any where has anyone said that. What the hell is wrong with you. YOU have serious issues. It may be your opinion but you tend sound a bit nuts. Who cares 'have to, or can ask for escort' either way it is available and you were wrong on that. You really should see a shrink because I have said before serious anger issues. Get a life.

for any of you that feel the need to depend on and expect police protection you better think again. The supreme court has ruled in the past that there is no legal obligation for the police to protect you from crime and that you cannot hold them liable for not being protected from being victimized. If this has been the ruling on A POLICE FORCE why would private property rights be any different. A write up can be seen at "http://www.allsafedefense.com/news/CopsDontProtect.htm" do some research and you will find many more.

Hannah: I am doing more than just reading this post online. I opened the link, I read the whole article, then I read all the postings, then I decided what I wanted to add, I wrote it in word so that I could use spell check and make sure the wording was what I wanted. Then I posted, I didn’t refresh before I posted. As soon as I posted then I saw your post. Please do everything that I listed and casually take your time and see how long it takes especially if you get distracted doing something else. Maybe if you are nicer to others then they will be nicer to you. Also I never said I disagreed, if you read my post there should be no reason to think that I disagree. I didn’t say in my original post that I agreed with you because I was giving my own explanation that had nothing to do with your post, even if I had read yours (which again I didn’t until after I posted when I saw it for the first time) I don’t feel the need to state when I agree with each person. By the way I read your post about 15 minutes before I wrote this, and I did not refresh.

Couldn't this same incident happen when you're walking down the street? Who do you sue if it happens there? Or all the other cases that happened when that other creep broke into all those women's homes? Who do they sue? My point is, some things aren't preventable which is sad. The victim is not at fault and did nothing wrong. The loser that did it is at fault and now he's dead. The mall didn't do it.

hannah must be currently unemployed. wow.

Then you most not read the employee hand outs from the mall. They make it clear you can ask for a escort from the mall to your car, if you are not comfortable. If you check with mall mgmt they will also tell you security is to be out patrolling after dark at regular intervals. Maybe if you were not such a smart, obnoxious... people would not give you such a hard time. You could probably get some pills help with your anger issues.

It is not always the victim who starts the lawsuits. Most of the the time is the crooked lawyers who approach the victims and say we can get you a boat load of money. Most of that boat load ends up in the lawyers pocket. In most cases the victim gets the short end of the purse.

if she did work at the mall, and it was at night security is suppose to escort them out and be patrolling the parking lot at that hour.

just another reason why free enterprise is getting another nail in there coffin and the internet is doing the business they are, with these kind of lawsuits why would a small business want to invest in the Janesville Mall or anywhere else for that matter.

sandman: You really think this came from greed? I think maybe this Lady would rather of had a nice day and got home safe and had a Merry Christmas but that didn't happen. The mall didn't do this but it could have had a safer parking lot, maybe it would have stopped this and maybe not but at least they could have tried.It seems much safer now and plus they are covering their butts. From what I understand from the first story on this didn't the Lady work at the mall? maybe not but I thought i read that ....

outdoors: If it was winter and you fell out in the parking lot on ice who would you blame? The parking lot isn't no man's land, where I do think alot of lawsuits are a waste this one does have some merit. The mall does what it can to keep the inside safe why not the outside as well? At work we have cameras up all over outside.The mall owns the parking lot so that should be kept just as safe by them, I think the high prices we pay there should cover our safety also.So outdoors, if the mall had gangs roaming the parking lot you wouldn't hold the mall partly to blame if you got mugged? ... or would you think they should have a hand in keeping the parking lot aliitle bit safer for us shoppers? I have a feeling if it were you you'd be sueing also. If someone was watching cameras and saw this lady getting pushed into a van they could have helped her, i know it was the scum who did this but these days it doesn't hurt to keep parking lots alittle more safe.

Pete - That makes no sense at all what you just said. What are you getting at with this?

Greed and karma, I guess.

However sad it is that this assault happened in the first place, this unnecessary suit detracted from the the sympathy I had for this victim. I'm not a fan of big business, but how can anyone run a business in a climate where they are to be held responsible for virtually everything that happens on or near the property (and you can rest assured they will pass the costs associated with it on to consumers)? I guess that's why Amazon can compete so well in this marketplace -- aside from volume, they don't have a parking lot in which someone can be assaulted and then sue them for it!

Everyone's looking for someone (with money and deep pockets) to blame, regardless of how culpable -- I expect God would be sued if we could figure out a way to make God pay up. Probably why God no longer has much to do with us, and he hardly ever calls!

Good book for those who are out walking about with their heads in the clouds and their nose in their text messaging - "The Gift of Fear: And Other Survival Signals That Protect Us from Violence" y Gavin De Becker. Contrary to all superficial appearances, it's not (nor has it ever been) a safe world. Best to be alert and listen to your instincts, and be ready to fight for your life and your family when necessary. No one else can protect you in such circumstances, and money will never erase the memory and effects of this events such as this one.

In the real world, bunnies (and their little bunny extended families) have no one to sue when the red-tail hawk sinks it's talons into their back!

Yep a million won't be much after taxes and lawyers.

Actually the settlement was for a million; her lawyers will end up with a large chunk of that.

Hannah: I wrote that because that is how I feel that is what my opinion is in my words. I am not going to rely on you to speak for me. Also your posting was not up when I started writing my post. You assuming that everyone is against you causes people to not like you. Stop being such a … I didn’t say a single thing about you and you lashed out at me because we agreed, why? Next time I will be sure to attack you before I write my opinions.

carlitosway - Please read your post. It makes no sense at all.

For more info, here is the case: http://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetails.do;...

She got a million dollars.

hannah do you ever think befor you post? when a person becomes a victim and it coulds of been prevented then the victim has a case also the jail issue is another form of not doing their job as the jail is to check on people routinely and when the don't there they should be held liable.

Anyone who has been raped knows there is no closure. Ever.

Pete - Were the Janesville PD suppose to prevent this from happening? Is that what you're saying? They were suppose to be standing there, waiting and knowing with super power ESP that this was going to happen? LMAO at that post of yours.

Hannah, if you think for a minute that this woman can get closure just because her attacker is dead, you are seriously one french fry short of a happy meal. This woman will NEVER have closure...this attack will haunt her for the rest of her life. No sum of money can compensate for that.

Napalm...what makes you think that she doesn't have a job? What does that have to do with anything?

For the record, my username has nothing to do with this particular situation, it's just a screen name.

To those people who are saying that kohl’s and the mall settled because they didn’t have a strong case. Obviously you don’t know how expensive it is for large corporations or even small companies to fight a lawsuit. They settled because it was cheaper to settle than it was to keep paying their lawyers. By the time that this got to court they probably spent well over 200k in lawyer fees each. Not to mention the bad press. They paid to watch out for the bottom line, plain and simple. It is terrible what happened to this woman however they didn’t pay because they were at fault or because they had a poor case. They paid to save money. I have seen this many times before where a company pays even thought they are not at fault.

ONE OF MY RELATIVES WAS ALSO A VICTIM OF THIS SLIME BALL AND IT REALLY MAKES ME MAD WHEN HIS FAMILY IS SINGING THE BLUES LOOKING FOR COMPENSATION FOR HIS LOST WAGES AND ETC. WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE HE HARMED AND THEIR FAMILIES WHAT DO THEY GET? NOTHING!!

O.K. Pete I don't understand what you are saying? Janesville P.D. ?? Where were they? Janesville Mall is private property and they are not required to be there unless called. So I don't understand what you are getting at.

Why do you think Kohls/Mall settled? I wonder if they have changed anything since then?

I agree the family of the guy who committed this horrendous crime should not get one dime.

outdoors, Kohls /Mall must have not been confident in that argument or they would not have settled.

Justaguy, Im curious why you say your happy she got something out of it. While what happened to her was tragic, the only person to blame was the attacker. I am very disappointed the mall/Kohls paid, they did nothing wrong, they have NO obligation to provide security.

hannah why are you always so negative? Why do you ALWAYS BASH the victim. I have heard others call you a angry person on here, and I have to agree. It's done with. Obviously there was enough doubt or it never would have been settled.

I'm glad to hear this Lady did get something out of what happened to her, now I hope the family of the man who hung himself gets nothing.He was scum and he make the choice to kill himself ... my thoughts.