Closing GITMO and trying the inmates in U.S. courts is soclalist? By your logic, Bush was a socialist:

Wednesday, 21 June 2006, 20:46 GMT 21:46 UK
"US President George W Bush has said he would like to close the US prison camp at Guantanamo Bay and send many detainees back to their home countries.
However, he said not all the inmates would be returned - some would need to be put on trial in the US because they were "cold-blooded killers"."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5102528.stm

Gray_Ghost and the rest of you narrow minded fools. I am glad Ryan has the courage to stand against the Socialist regime of Obama. Bringing terrorist to the United States is a mistake. They don't have rights, they don't deserve to be here. They are war criminals and deserve to be kept at Gitmo, where it is 100% safe from being a terrorist target. I am glad that he is looking out for the safety of this country. In 3 years Obama and AG Eric Holder should be put on trial for endangering and misleading this country.

ryan, should be keeping a closer eye on wisconsin, not some town 115 miles away from, his home state.

zoom: You sound like a true lib. dem sissie that knows nothing, gitmo is for terrorists only so how do they recrute? Bring them here and they get new students, if you think bringing them here is the only way to show the world we aren't afraid your blinders are on way too narrow, just like your dem. mind is.

bobb1951: You show your stupidity so well, for 1 I used your name to point out who's comment i was talking about and 2 it's like i've never seen you bash another for something they have said? get a life. I see you can dish it out but you take it like a child, your the one who needs a nap and maybe you should skip your dinner too.

Well, my grandparents live near Thomson. They thought it was ridiculous when the very large jail was built in the first place because it sat empty and a lot of money was spent on it. Can't wait to hear their opinion- they weren't fans of Obama from the time he ran for senator.

"Having these war criminals on U.S. soil also provides a good recruiting tool to our home-grown jihadists."

GITMO is an ongoing recruiting tool, because of everything that happened there. Housing the criminals in the U.S. shows the world that we aren't afraid. Keeping them out is a sign of weakness. I'm surprised you conservatives don't see that. You act like a bunch of sissies.

"And to be accurate the Thomson Correctional Center is not currently a "supermax" facility."

It is designed to be maximum security. It was just never opened for maximum security prisoners. Besides, the Department of Defense is going to make changes to increase security even more.

It could be the only prison in this country without a christian majority.

gandalf: “It's absurd to think that a group of other terrorists would be able to bust-out their imprisoned cohorts from a military-controlled supermax prison.” ... Clearly holds no water, i'm sure up to the point of 9/10/2001 we were saying the terrorists could never kill over 2900 US people .... guess what happened the next day? and it only took 19 terrorists to do it ... so think again.

“It's absurd to think that a group of other terrorists would be able to bust-out their imprisoned cohorts from a military-controlled supermax prison.”

They don’t have to “bust-out” anybody, all they need to do is use the prisoners as a focal point for an attack. The point is not to have a successful prison break, but to give the U.S. another black eye. Just like 9-11, it wasn’t an attempt to achieve a military victory, just to embarrass the U.S. Having these war criminals on U.S. soil also provides a good recruiting tool to our home-grown jihadists. It allows them an accessible rallying point they can visit and see, rather than a far away, mythical place like GITMO.

bobb: I really don't think you have wit, looking at your posts make that very clear. Maybe you hiding behind your PC and webster in hand you think you do tho, sad person you are.You say attact your post and not you? does this mean you don't stand behind your own words? Who's the unarmed one here? get a clue and then come back ... you have a good day.

bobb1951: If the terrorists new the prison held maybe 100 of their "heros" behind bars you don't think they'd be crazy enough to try and come up with a plan to get them out? along with maybe some new recrutes they maybe have made while in prison? Yes the odds of this happening are slim but far from not being possible, i'd hate to guess how many terrorists cells we really do have in the states. Other than 9/11 we've been pretty lucky but just take a look what the other countries have had to deal with, oneday it WILL be us again.

prevention: I didn't need what you stated to be explained unless you didn't understand what it was you said yourself? Yes the KKK and other groups are haters of people but none come near the hate of the terrorists. They won't even stop at kiiler their own just to get their target and if you really think they might not at least think of a way to get them out of a prison where their "heros" are you are a fool, 9/11 really did happen. These people think way different then other extreme groups, just look at how long they planned 9/11 just to make a point .... wake up.

Zoom: I know why we have gitmo thank you, maybe we should let the terrorists screw our system like it get screwed over now? Bring them to the states and they get 101 new laws to mess with and cost us billions of more dollars. Use your head when you try to think.

And to be accurate the Thomson Correctional Center is not currently a "supermax" facility.

justaguy, GITMO was built, in part, so the Bush administration wouldn't have to abide by those pesky U.S. laws like habeas corpus.

justaguy: I believe I didn't quite state the point well enough.... all these groups are a bunch of human-haters that don't like others that are dfferent than them. I don't care if they are in Monroe, Jville, LA, or Siberia. THEY HATE PEOPLE NOT LIKE THEM.

Have I stated it more clearly?

Thank you, Bobb, I knew it was one of them in that timeframe!

As far as Ryan, many of you should only hope the other politicians and so called leaders have the balls he does to have concerns rather than trying to make friends with everyone. That's obviously gotten us nowhere. You make it sound like he's some kind of horrible person because he's looking out for US!!

prevention: I'll guess that the KKK your talking about are a bunch of morons just like the ones we had here about 15-20 years ago over by the GM plant. Now you get a bunch of these terrorists in a group and I think you've heard how they work? or maybe you think 9/11 never happened? and as far as bobb1951 goes I think we have more of those terrorists hiding here in the states and not near gitmo, ever think that's maybe why we have them there in gitmo? I'm not saying anything might happen but nothing has happened yet with them at gitmo.You dems and libs are so clueless,take the blinders off ... 9/11 could just happen again.

Well great, at least another foreign Country will like us so they can step all over us again in the future and we can try and bail their sorry as#es out. Glad we're making friends when we can't even keep our own Country afloat. Wow. Blind leading the blind.

@Mr. Scott: I would not expect Joe Biden to vote against Bush all the time. If the two sides were completely unwilling to cross the aisle, our government would be even more messed up that it is now. But there is a big difference between 70% and 93%. Hmmmm... about 23%. I don't think Doyle has done much for our area, but I never said he had. Besides representing a district, congressmen also try to "get" things (projects, jobs, dollars) for their district. If Alaska can get a bridge to nowhere, why can't we at least get a bridge to somewhere? Ryan is all fluff and he continues to try to distract us, hoping that we won't notice.

Where does Ryan think the convicted terrorists should be incarcerated? Not in my backyard! Perhaps a Supermax prison in another state, but not within 112 miles of Janesville? Evidently Ryan does not have much faith in the governments ability to protect us from terrorist attack. This isn't about jobs, its about punishing those who seek to harm our citizens. Don't all citizens, then, bear the responsibility for making sure these criminals are jailed with the worst of the worst? Isn't that why Supermax prisions were built in the first place?
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"Ryan isn’t “fear-mongering”, he’s using his head to try and anticipate a threat. Some of you should try using yours as well." Don't be so naive Northman. Ryan will use "fear-mongering" and anything else that will help him get re-elected. Use YOUR head!

bobb1951: Why hasn't gitmo been attacted? think about it for awhile and it might come to you .... if you can do that?

cynicaleye: You think the rights are nut jobs you should open your eyes, the lefties are much bigger wing nut jobs. The dems and libs are bring out country down, you say fear nonthing, close your eyes and put the blinders on and everything will be safe. That is when you'll be blind sided .... yeah the lefties are nut jobs alright.

Northman, these terrorists are criminals, essentially like the hundreds of other terrorists who are in US prisons. It's wrong to give them the additional aura of being war criminals. They are not state-sponsored (at least not since the Taliban got booted). They are a multi-national criminal conspiracy.

It's absurd to think that a group of other terrorists would be able to bust-out their imprisoned cohorts from a military-controlled supermax prison.

It's shameful that Mr. Ryan and the Republican party insist on making a partisan issue out of this (and so many other issues that should be non-partisan in resolution).

I wonder if Paul Ryan's wife has to close his closet door and check under the bed every night before bed-time. What a sissy.

Northman, are you trying to say that the security measures put in place by Bush after 9/11 aren't good enough? Why would "thousands" of terrorists bother to break some guys out of prison, when they could just bomb some buildings and kill thousands of U.S. citizens instead? I've never heard of terrorists rescuing other terrorists, anywhere in the world, much less a post 9/11 U.S.A. What a completely fabricated outrage.

What is the threat to Wisconsin again? Ryan doesn't represent Illinois.

The huge fallacy committed by the liberal folks here is in equating of these war criminals with plain old ordinary criminal criminals. Timothy McVeigh was a “terrorist”, these guys are “terrorists”, same thing right? Nope.

Putting aside the point of whether they belong in our criminal justice system, let’s just consider the danger of putting them into one of our prisons. McVeigh was pretty much a solo act; there weren’t a lot of people, here or in other countries, demanding his release. The Guantanamo kids, on the other hand, are considered to be heroes by thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of militant Muslims around the world. There was very little chance of any group attacking a prison, or adjacent area, to break out McVeigh. It might be a very tempting target for a group of Muslim terrorists.

Ryan isn’t “fear-mongering”, he’s using his head to try and anticipate a threat. Some of you should try using yours as well.

This is a great discussion. When was the last time someone escaped from a federal prison or attempted to blow one up? This is a partisan/political position taken by the congressman.
Mr. Scott: Rep. Ryan may be more of a free thinker, but his voting record is no different than any other conservative Republican. Talk/talk vs. walk/walk.

Mr. Ryan's comments against placing terrorists in the supermax prison at Thomsen, IL are transparently disingenuous. He's following the party line of contriving threats that are not real. In fact, what the Republicans are doing is stating that our country is too weak to secure nasty criminals, when the truth is we are better at incarcerating people than any other nation.

Besides having them in a Supermax, we'd have increased law enforcement in the area with these idiots over in Thomson.

Wasn't it JFK that said-- we have nothing to fear, but fear itself? Sounds like we have abunch of people that are afraid of fear of the unknown. Besides, isn't anyone afraid of the people that haven't got caught? How about the fact the there is a KKK/Neo-Nazi headquarters in Monroe? What's the difference between a terrorist and KKK/Neo-Nazi? From my viewpoint, nothing because they are all hate filled humans that don't like anyone that is different than them.

I like Lost city's idea.

For all you liberals who feel you have to go off the subject with jobs, etc so you can get your political views and digs in. Doyle sure has done a lot to create jobs hasn't he? Oh that's right, jobs in other countries. Obama is doing splendid at creating jobs also. There just stacking up as we speak. Cracks me up.

cynicaleye - Spoken like a true bleeding heart liberal.

hermione - Joe Biden voted with "Dubya" 70 percent of the time, does that make him a right-wing democrat? It's Ryan's job to represent the 1st congressional district in Washington DC, not to specifically bring jobs to Janesville and only Janesville. Doyle had a chance to "bid" to keep a LOT of jobs here in Janesville and he failed miserably.

Ryan's agenda is to stir up fear so that no one will notice that he has had zero success in bringing jobs to Rock Co. As for being a moderate, he follows the Republican party line. Ryan voted with "Dubya", about 90% of the time. He doesn't need a brain, just a good dentist, so he can keep smiling and trying to convince us that he is doing a great job.

The federal prison system currently houses approximately 340 inmates linked to international terrorism, including more than 200 tied to international incidents.

Of the total number, 35 inmates are housed in federal prisons in Illinois, including Ali al-Marri, who pleaded guilty in federal court to conspiring to provide material support to al Qaeda. Al-Marri is serving eight years and four months at the federal penitentiary in Marion, Illinois.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/11/14/illinoi...

Let the fear mongering begin. How does anyone seriously believe terrorists are going to try and "rescue" another terrorist, at a supermax prison no less. Can't wait to read Ryan's ridiculous reason Janesville would be in danger.

Mr. Ryan, I have had respect for your conservative fiscal position, though I disagree with much of it, but this fear mongering is too much. The very town of Thomson wants the prisoners held there. The section of the prison holding the suspected terrorists would be run by the Military (no visitation rights).

cynicaleye, you seem to be the the only nut job in here. Fearmongering? Please! When you're housing a group of fanatics in one place that isn't protected the way a military base is, who's to say that a group willing to strap bombs to themselves to kill innocent people in a marketplace aren't willing to do so to free their own? Calling Ryan far right-wing would be like calling Russ Feingold a centrist. Ryan is a much more moderate free-thinker than most republicans.

What happens when their fellow "countrymen" decide to rescue them? We're close enough to be collateral damage!

Could convert the old GM plant into prison and keep them here,we need the jobs.

Yet another example of Paul Ryan of putting fearmongering and politics over reasoned thought. Just love the way these far right wing nut jobs think.

Not to worry no one has ever escaped a Supermax facility, and it will bring jobs to the area.

why bring them close to here leave them where they are at we dont need these people