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Supreme Court bars damages for jail inmates

By ASSOCIATED PRESS   Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 9:58 a.m.
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) — The state Supreme Court has ruled Milwaukee County inmates aren't entitled to monetary awards for enduring overcrowded jail conditions.

Inmates began complaining in 1996 that they lived in bug-infested cells, slept next to toilets and spent hours in the booking area.

The county eventually settled the inmates' class-action lawsuit in 2001. Officials agreed to make improvements, but the deal didn't call for any monetary damages.

In 2004 the inmates' attorneys alleged the county was still keeping prisoners in the booking area too long because of overcrowding — a violation of the agreement. A circuit court judge refused to grant them damages, but an appeals court reversed that decision.

The Supreme Court ruled 4-3 Tuesday the inmates can't receive damages because conditions have improved. The inmates' attorney didn't immediately return a phone call.




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truecitizen
Jul 21, 2009 at 10:21 p.m.
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I see your correction now, but I will add the inmates almost always have the means to keep their areas cleaned. They refuse to and use that subject as a collective to make it appear as though the facility is at fault. The attitude you see with these people in public, is inside the jail too. Basically, they won't lift a finger because, "we're in jail", and figure they shouldn't have too.
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With that many inmates....couldn't someone find the time to clean up? Don't be fooled, all these facilities have the means for sanitary conditions, the residents are usually to blame.

truecitizen
Jul 21, 2009 at 10:14 p.m.
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Correction "...and spent hours in the booking area." Their civil suit issues were multi faceted. Booking was one of their issues. Furthermore, as far as the "just something to think about" speech: I don't believe I said anything about being unreasonble or even spoke about 'treatment' as it applies to Officer interaction. That should always be professional-no exceptions. The overcrowding and creature comforts are spcifically what I was referring to. I know who that Lt. is, and though that thinking is true, it isn't relevant to this article.
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You know, specifically regarding the overcrowding. Why do we as regular citizens have to hang our heads because of the high populations of prisoners, in each facility? These people made up that population of prisoners, not me or you. It isn't 'non-sensical'. What are we supposed to do? That's why I'm glad the WI Sup Ct. stood ground on the subject a little bit (for once).
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Further more the system is letting inmates out on bond, bracelet, and sentence adjustments all in lieu of the overcrowding. Not in lieu of the individual's offense, or behavior etc. Wrong reason, and typical 'back-down' response. The criminals are getting the 'buldge on us'. This current application of reducing the number of inmates, will only propagate the problem in the end.

JohnDoe
Jul 21, 2009 at 9:48 p.m.
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I should have stated that it isn't "only" about the booking area, but that is one area all inmates spend at least some time.

JohnDoe
Jul 21, 2009 at 9:39 p.m.
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truecitizen.....this article and lawsuit pertains to overcrowded and unsanitary conditions in the booking area. Both convicted and pre-trial inmates spend time in that area.

Your statement "if a person is locked up wrongfully, then the creature comforts of that facility have to cater to the potential of an innocent person being held there?" is non-sensical.

A long retired Lt. from the Rock County jail used to tell new recruits to make sure they treated all inmates as they themselves would want to be treated because they could easily find themselves behind bars through no fault of their own. He was speaking from personal experience, having found himself locked up while on vacation in a Southern state due to a case of "mistaken identity."

Just something to think about.

MooShoo
Jul 21, 2009 at 9:04 p.m.
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If anyone thinks jail inmates are coddled, you need to visit the County Jail. Over the years, the Sheriff has made numerous offers to the public for tours. Take one or shut up.

truecitizen
Jul 21, 2009 at 8:37 p.m.
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JohnDoe. Two main things you have forgotten. One, if a person is locked up wrongfully, then the creature comforts of that facility have to cater to the potential of an innocent person being held there? Second, there is probably (a wild guess) about 1 person in several hundred or maybe thousands, who are booked into jail wrongfully. Furthermore, some of those people, led criminal lives and got away with it or went to jail for past offenses anyway.
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Your point is barely valid, but does not affect the purposes of this article, and our jails/ prisons are expensive enough. If anything these facilities should be updated for the use by it's staff, before the comforts of the inmates are considered-at least within reasonableness.

JohnDoe
Jul 21, 2009 at 7:04 p.m.
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For anyone who thinks they could NEVER find themselves locked up...in jail... prior to ever having a trial....I have some oceanfront property on the South side of Janesville you may be interested in buying.

PeopleRStupid
Jul 21, 2009 at 3:29 p.m.
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Boo hoo. Too bad for them. I'm sure they weren't concerned about the people they did a crime against so why are we suppose to be concerned about them.
Let my tax money go towards something better than making a thief, murderer or rapist more comfy!!!

truecitizen
Jul 21, 2009 at 2:32 p.m.
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If there is constant overcrowding, then the inmates should stop committing crimes. If we are suffering from tough economic pressures, then we should not spend it on the inmate's creature comforts. Until you see their attitudes up close and directly, you people will not fully understand how crazy these people are. They do nothing to stop their illegal acts, try harder to get away with them, and then literally make demands and create constant chaos for the staff in charge of them. I have witnessed the circus myself and let me tell you...at least 4 of the 7 supreme court (Wisconsin) Judges got it right.
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We need to draw a line on these offenders.

gpawcat
Jul 21, 2009 at 12:50 p.m.
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I wonder what our top internet cop Officer Rivieri would say about the conditions of our jails?

coyote
Jul 21, 2009 at 12:46 p.m.
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bobb1951, so very true; about half or better of the inmates in Rock County Jail are awaiting trial, that means not convicted yet. The conditions, privileges and activities are so very different in jail than in prison; prison being much more lax.

sickofyou
Jul 21, 2009 at 11:53 a.m.
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And every person who lived a sheltered life and never took a chance on anything always say "awe that never happens!!" But people that live in the REAL world know that,sometimes bad things happen to good people!! and it happens more then people are willing to say!!

janesvillean
Jul 21, 2009 at 11:50 a.m.
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We can't have a standard where any maltreatment is acceptable, and still call ourselves a civilized society (there is that darn Constitution and those ultra-liberal Founding Fathers). But this wasn't about that question anyway. The case was simply about whether the state still owes monetary damages if it eventually corrects the conditions.

whoanellie
Jul 21, 2009 at 11:29 a.m.
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You do the crime you should do the time! We make it too easy on people who are incarcerated, what with cable tv, workout rooms and libraries, and computers! If they thought they'd have to stay in some bug infested jail maybe they would think twice about doing crime!! And don't give me the crap about some being innocent, that is way too scarce and far between!! ( everyone in prison says they are innocent!!)

RetiredAirForce
Jul 21, 2009 at 10:54 a.m.
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Your point makes more sense than the money hungry lawyers looking for a payout.

sickofyou
Jul 21, 2009 at 10:48 a.m.
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Well that would be a great attitude if everybody in jail was guilty!!!

mirandadee
Jul 21, 2009 at 10:44 a.m.
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seems like an easy fix to me!

gmaof4
Jul 21, 2009 at 10:12 a.m.
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This is a very simple problem to solve.

If the inmates don't like the conditions at the jail, then they shouldn't have done anything wrong to get them there !!!!

Shape up everyone, follow the laws and the rules and you won't end up in jail!

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