its funny how a bunce of you people can be so cold-hearted. Addicts are people too, no matter what they do. Everyone has problems, and it's not too late for these people. They need help, plain and simple. I don't think jail time helps anyone because the whole time an addict is in there the only thing on their mind is their next fix when they get out. If you are a parent, think of this: what if that was your child? what if your child had an addiction to heroin? would you shun them and turn your back?

thekid, are you ......., oh, never mind, you're on the demon weed all day.

ihavealife , the cabins address is not 9215 newville road but has a knudsen road number , it amazing that everyone is pointing fingers at the parents of these kids some were well past 21 and should of known better, and after 18 what control do the parents have , none it s time for each and everyone of these kids to be responsible for themselves, no excuses

And spark- sorry im trying to get to the bottom of the situation by figuring out why these kids turned to heroin, instead of calling them ingrates and joining the mob to lynch them with our words.
By the way getting a bag of heroin only costs twenty bucks-how much is it to see a sports game, go out to eat, see a movie or go "laser tagging"? Just putting it into perspective. Im trying to present you with a problem, and you're dismissing it, just like everyone is dismissing these kids without even giving them a chance. Disgusting.

Lol i like "the kid" keep em talking man, they sure seem to like you around here hahah
And my point was why do things that cost an arm and a leg when the kids could just get high for the same cost and be much more content? There needs to be some sort of alternatives. And badgerfan 70% was a number off the top of my head, instead of arguing numbers ill argue that a lot of people dont like sports, as i gather you probobaly do, so your list is specific to you, not the kids you are confessing to being a little out of touch with =)

The problem is not a lack of things to do. The problem is that the drugs make the user "feel good"!!! How do you combat that? By the time, the drug abuse party escalates to "this isn't so much fun anymore" and "withdrawal sucks," then the user has crossed the one-way bridge over to addiction. Then the real pain begins.

I am all for finding better things to do with your time but remember what happened last time a juice bar came to Janesville. Screamin Meemies was not any better of place to hang out!!! All those girls got busted for selling sex....

i have the PERFECT idea for that 16-22(maybe older) crowd to do in janesville that DOESNT INCLUDE ALCOHOL OR DRUGS!! someone should get some dough together...find a building and start a 'juice' bar. have some girls...or guys...or both get up on stage, dance, and remove their clothes. no major touching of course. viewing entertainment only. we could have amateur nite. ladies nite. gents nite. disco nite. pajama nite. oh the possibilities...:)

ok...so the owner of the property lives in a diffrent house on the property. Even if he did know what was going on they are adults and he really cant tell them what to do anymore. He probably wasnt to the point where he didnt care if his kids were homeless. To say that anyone hopes that they get their kids taken away and never get them back is wrong and just plainmean to be honest. Even if you think they cant take care of their kids now doesnt mean that they never will be able to again!!!! Lets give a little hope that they will all recover from this sickness and get their lives back!!! Reading some of these posts just lets me know that people are very judgemental!! That is the only proof i need that satan is real. Instead of putting these people down we should all hope that they can get better and liva a normal life. HOW RUDE CAN YOU BE!!!

Do all of these kids have driver's licenses? I think the driving age should be raised to 17, and when you're 16, you have one year to find a job that consists of at least 10 -12 hours a week. When you apply for your license, you have to show proof that you worked that job for at least three months STRAIGHT before you can get one. If these kids HAD to work to get a license, maybe more of them would start learning a little more responsibility, fill in some of that dangerous "free time on their hands" and actually have a few bucks for insurance, gas & the rest. I know jobs are fairly scarce, but part-time abounds if you really look for it, and 10-12 hours a week wouldn't really hurt them schoolwise.

It IS true.. Thinking back, it was the "let's find something to do" scenario that usually concocted something rather dumb somewhere in the course of an evening.

freeradical- You said "most of these things cost money?" No kidding. So do drugs and they cost way more than the things on the to do list. I'm sorry, but your post still has me completely baffled and I'm glad you can make like of the situation by saying these things are maybe more fun high. No, that simply means as an individual, you have no imagination and you need drugs to enjoy yourself. What the hell are this kids going to do when they really have to face reality? Have to face real problems in life? And by that, I don't clasify sitting around trying to figure out what to do because they're bored as a real problem. You have it made if that's all you have to worry about.

Freeradical, if my list is so old-fashioned and out of touch, what does "someone (who) isn't into sports or an outdoorsy person" do in this fabled land where there's SOMETHING to do?
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And 70% are warm weather? Must be some of that new math you young whipper-snappers are learnin'. I'm in my 30s so I'm totally out of touch, you know.

Here is a link to an article with the pictures: http://gazettextra.com/news/2009/jan/30/...

biggirl where is your head? no matter what amount was found it is illegal and no matter how much was found is to much of the deadly crap!!!!It isnt about scaring it is about REALITY of the problem why dont some of the IDIOTS in here comprehend that it is a problem?" To lose a young man or woman, child to this is real and has happened in our area on at least 2 occations recently which is 2 to many. And it is not an easy habit to quit even with treatment and being SCARED of prison time and or DEATH!

Check out this website...
WISCONSIN ALLIANCE FOR DRUG ENDANGERED CHILDREN
at http://www.wisconsindec.org/

Teachers, law enforcement and other social/family related groups are constantly included in programs/training events.

There are DEC programs around the nation.

Hey, it's all alleged, and how much heroine was found. Seems to me like the local law enforcement is trying to scare us all about the new drug, heroine. As many people said here, there just kids, and I hope that they will turn their lives around after serving their sentence. However, there does seem to be a lackadasical attitude about the evidence here. We assume they're guilty because the police say they're guilty. How about if one or a couple of them were simply girlfriends of others and not participating in the alleged ring?

ihavealife..The Father does live on the property..Some of us used to show cattle for them at fairs and such ...there is the main house by the road...another newly built house between barns then their is a cabin type home farther up...the kids were living in the cabin...the father living in the newly built house... Its a shame because the 2 peoples father did so much for his kids and gave them just about everything...

By the way-Shorty I like your comment a lot, and I think everyone should read it and take it into consideration. Seems like everyone is so quick to jump on anyone with a problem with no sign of a helping hand. I certainly don't want my children to be so cold and inconsiderate to people and situations they don't know half of the facts to.Especially without knowing any of the facts first and jumping to nasty remarks. These kids probobaly weren't happy with the way things were going, and honestly maybe they are happy they got caught because they didn't have money or the resources to get help or stop otherwise.

"Bowling, go out to eat, attend a basketball game, rent a movie/video game and hang with friends, go to a JPAC show/attend the school play, visit a museum, go laser tagging, golf, hang at a coffee shop, disc golf, go on a hike, go camping, go rock climbing, canoeing, swimming at the Y, basketball in a park, go to a Snappers game, drive to another town and snoop around, start a band, make dinner with your friends, hang out at a lake, go fishing, visit State Street."

Hang at a coffee shop? Start a band? Go out to eat?What is this the good ol days? Those things don't sound fun unless someone is high! (lol) Some of those things don't look like hobbies as much as "we did them once now what else?" Drive to another town and snoop,hang at a coffee shop...these days most likely will get you pulled over and talked to or kicked out for suspicion of mischief or soliciting! haha Most of the things mentioned require a decent amount of money and going to somewhere besides janesville. Thats the funny thing, snappers game,camping,visit state street, laser tag, a museum arent available in janesville. Isn't that what I was complaining about? All those things cost money and arent readily available in janesville, evansville, milton, edgerton. Not to mention its winter time like 6-8months out of the year these days, which knocks like 70% of those suggestions out on weather alone. Im talking things in our town, not "drive to another town and snoop around" What about here? And im not just talking teens and young ones. Most of these problems are occurring with early 20 somthings too. Assuming someone isn't into sports or an outdoorsy person, what are they going to do? Obviously theyll have to go to another town and spend money to do it. Why not just stay in janesville and spend the cash on drugs? Obviously its the easier alternative and it seems to be winning out on rock climbing, hiking and canoeing. Or maybe it's because you can do all those things while you're high, and they might actually be entertaining at that point?

Both homes on the farm are "excellent", probably better shape than most of the nay-sayers here. The old farm house in the front hasn't been lived in since the "latinos/hispanics got into trouble of THEIR OWN free will there. Lets all move on and worry about bigger fish to fry, I think these people have enough to worry about without some of you worrying about the condition of the carpets etc.

The real problem with people is the ignorance to the actuality as to how many young people are on HEROIN And for those in here that think it cant or wont happen to their kids WAKE the HELL up. It isnt just a LOWLIFES drug anymore If you read between the lines in the gazette at the young ages of deaths at home you will see thru the ignorance and talk to your kids whether they are teens or adults as it isnt age selective as to the use. I was amazed at first when my 20 year old shared how many high school age kids are into Heroin aand how many of the kids he grew up with doing H I have talked to a couple of his friends and it is sad as they dont think it will kill them as "they are real careful" my niece has a problem and she just dont get it and the sad part is her mom (my sister) had drug problems all her life and is in prison do to addiction related issues,and i thought because of this she would not choose to go this way. She was a middle and high school honor student, excellent athelete, started college and now 4 years later has nothing. We have tried but to no avail. But the issue here are there are to many like her out there and something has to work. It takes a viilage to raise a child and this community needs to accept that it is a BIG problem and take action to find solutions no matter what. If you have never seen heroin withdrawl I wish you could as it is horrible and it isnt just an hour or 2...........its days.

I agree with chemical6.As I have said before my child did drugs and alcohol out of rebellion. We were very active in their life and are good parents. No divorce or problems that everyone might attribute to some of these kids. we also had 2 other children who didn't do these things and turned out great! Although I believe they should be punished after being cleaned up too. they hurt other people and committed crimes in the process of their drug use!

I went to high school with at least 3 of these people... its sad to think that in just a few years people can turn to this when things get bad:/

and abberation ... i think it's because they dont have anyone looking out for them anymore.

buckyfan-You mean do what we all used to do when we were younger and what many kids that choose the right path and have some direction still do!! It's called using your imagination rather than frying it.
Excellent point.

Freeradical: I absolutely LOVE the argument that kids get addicted to drugs partly because there's "nothing to do in this town." I'm not kidding when I say I've heard the same thing in Madison, Milwaukee and places in between. It's a lame excuse. What exactly is it that kids want to do that's not available here (or right down the road)? What kind of excitement are they looking for when drugs are the entertainment option they're looking for?
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Here's a few suggestions of things to do: Bowling, go out to eat, attend a basketball game, rent a movie/video game and hang with friends, go to a JPAC show/attend the school play, visit a museum, go laser tagging, golf, hang at a coffee shop, disc golf, go on a hike, go camping, go rock climbing, canoeing, swimming at the Y, basketball in a park, go to a Snappers game, drive to another town and snoop around, start a band, make dinner with your friends, hang out at a lake, go fishing, visit State Street.
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Kids aren't very creative if they can't find things to do!

There are 2 places at that address and yes they do use both places the dad has the smaller one The one may not be suitable for some of the people posting but to some it is a roof over their head and as messed up as they most likely are do ya think they notice? the reason the other place is concidered unlivable it was raided by drug enforcement about 5 years ago.

I think the real issue here is.... look what is happening to our society. If you think the crime will stop here with all the jobs lost lately.... let me know where your glass house is. It's very unfortunate that people, young and old get caught up this stuff; but we need to focus on our OWN families and lives. Don't throw stones at those you may project have a problem. The one crappy thing about living in small town Edgerton... EVERYONE worries about everyone's business but their own. I was told a great phrase the other day... "don't comment on rumors" some of this is getting to that point. For those of you "reading" the facts becareful what you say about thise, if you weren't there personally. The farm where this took place is a very reputable farm, and some of those involved are people that don't desreve the "titles" that some are quick to give because of a mistake. Large or small this is a mistake and now they have to deal with the outcome. I will challenge anyone here to fess up to making a mistake. It might not be to this level, but I know for sure I AM NOT PERFECT and I have not always done what is considered "correct" in today's society. I hope and pray that these people will get turned around in the right direction. Think about what you say, as most of us have children and NO matter how well we think we've raised them, you NEVER know what can happen.

Kid-It's not unfortunate for me that you spend a lot of time on your computer. Doesn't bother me at all and that's your choice. As long as you understand what this story is really about and where the real problem of the story lies. Young adults doing a horrible drug and robbing from innocent people to support a habit that is going to eventually kill them.

spark: i have no doubt heroin is a problem in every community. its to bad we dont have an effective Drug Abuse Resistance Education program in place...maybe we wouldnt have these drug problems. oh wait...i wont bother you with how that 750 MILLION DOLLAR A YEAR program is ineffective, thats another thread. my bad if it bothers you that i mention alcohol in this...and every blog i can. i dont care. this is just what i do and unfortunately for you i spend a lot of time on the puter:) just like im free to post as i wish within guidelines you too are free to skip my posts.

I definately agree that addiction is a disease, however, they need to be put thru detox and then punished for their actions. They should also be given help for rehabilitation.
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BTW, it’s not always the parents fault. I get that you are more likely to smoke if your parents do, more likely to drink if your parents do… but I have seen the most straight laced parents that have taken active roles in their kids’ lives, and the child STILL rebels against everything they were taught to not rebel against. I really think it’s more of a 50-50 chance that you do your best and hope that your child turns toward a good path in life. I also don’t think that people realize how common these drugs really are. It’s almost amusing to me to go to the bathroom at the bar and all I hear is *sniff*sniff* in the stall next to me. I mean, no, it’s not funny, but just proves my point that it’s becoming an everyday, everytown issue. People you would never imagine doing these drugs are the ones that do it the most sometimes!! I see these drugs all the time, I don’t choose to addict myself to them because I have seen the effects of what the drug ultimately does to a person…. I have seen it first hand and it’s not a pretty picture. Although I have never tried heroin because I do have an addictive personality and I am afraid I would like it… unfortunately. I just think that people need to be more aware that these drugs are out there and may be right next door, or worse yet, in your child’s bedroom… Take an active role in your child’s life and don’t shut them out if you find out they ARE doing drugs.

tick tick tick....it's only a matter of time before hotmommy's post get's......what's that? Poofed. Shame, you shouldn't put names on there. It plainly states in the User Policy Agreement. Guilt doesn't need to be broadcast by you. They know what they do....one can run from oneself. Hope you slandering made you feel better for the day. What a waste of your time to thrive on others hardship. AND NO I have absolutely no idea who you are talking about, but I know enough it isn't right.

Zipp_TPH Get a grip on "real life". Just from the actions of this group alone, one can see that your idea of "As a human experience, drugs are something that shouldn't be denied to a person." "It's his or her body, and they should be free to experience the effects of various drugs". The effects of drug use is know. It leads to ruined lives, higher crimes to get the drugs. Not just crimes of use, but as in this case, crimes against others to support getting their drugs. Even if these drugs were legal. How would these people afford to buy them? If they had the money to buy the drugs now, would they be commiting theft to get the money? Wise up !

If anyone needs proof that Satan exists, just look at the lives of these YOUNG individuals. Our genetic make-up and thought process is not programmed to behave is such a way. Think of it as a dog with rabies....very uncharacteristic of the being.

Not that I am condoning their behavoir and the agony the victims went through, but we do need to remember, that these acts of violence are not the acts of the individual, it is the act of the drug. They have no identity any longer other than the drug. Yes, they should be punished, THANK GOD noone was injured, but they need to be released from the hold of the drug in order to even begin to be held responsible for their actions as a whole.

Kid-Ya know, I can handle some of your comments that I immediately know are going to come up on a story that has drugs as a topic. It's predictable what you're going to say. But you are out of line even bringing alcohol into this story and using this as another chance to plead your alcohol vs drug case. This is about a bunch of punks that stole from people and held people up at gunpoint to support their heroin habit. Was marijuana mentioned in the arrests? Yes. But the real issue at hand is heroin and stealing from innocent, decent people to support this pathetic dead-end habit. If this story was about a bunch of punks that did this to support their alcohol habit, than so be it. It's not, however. Stay on the subject. If you think heroin is not killing kids and becoming the #1 problem drug in this community, you are highly mistaken.

my guess is that most of these kids lied about their address no one has been living in that farm house for a long time. they just didnt want to give there real address

And parents, for what it's worth...Jillian pointed out great warning signs for heroin abuse.
But i think the most important thing to remember is that shooting heroin is becoming more and more UNcommon. It is a powder, and it is much easier to snort than to cook up and shoot. Don't think just because you don't see track marks, cotton balls, spoons and syringes there's no use. Its actually much easier to empty a bag and snort it quick in a bathroom somewhere than to go through the process of cooking it up, tieing your arm finding a vein and injecting it. People rarely shoot heroin in this day and age, comparably. Pinpoint pupils are, as mentioned, a pretty surefire sign of some sort of opiate use. Make eye contact.

Funny these are getting more and more common, and all you people can do is wonder how it's happening, like it only happens in other cities and farie tales. Look at your own comments, this happens because everyone is apparently oblivious to the fact that this can happen and is happening here. Its your typical "not my child,not in my town!" type response. Just call them losers and ostracize them more, then wonder "how this could possibly happen"
Its going to happen a lot more if everyone is so much holier than thou about this. I hate these one sided, throw them in the fire reactions. I hope you're all generally more open minded...although nothing brings people together like dislike. What they did was wrong, and Im glad they are caught, and of course theyll deserve repercussions, but seriously they didn't just go out one day and say "lets gets addicted to heroin and steal stuff to support our addiction!" It goes back to parenting and the fact that theres nothing to do in a town as big as milton or small as janesville. Movies? Walk around the mall? Get tickets for cruising the strip? This is the by-product of problem bigger than heroin...In my opinion.

When you live in the town and its pretty small you know pretty much everything that goes on..and places like that arnt well hidden.. Everyone knows everything about you and your family..Hopefully they dont get their children back..No child deserves to be in that type of enviroment!!

The Land owner happens to be 2 of the peoples FATHER..he lives on the property as well... there is a few different houses on the land along with the barns and such..he owns everything..and doesnt happen to be living in the "drug house".. My guess is that he had some sort of idea that it was going on but could do nothing to stop it all...the kids are pretty much out of control..

Where is the land owner when this was going on? Did they know family members were running this little drug shack?

The Gazette never prints photos with the "news blog" articles (the stuff that appears on the right hand column next to the picture of the day). There are almost always photos with the print edition article when it is posted at the time the Gazette "goes to bed" (press). Patience, grasshoppers.

Please parents keep an eye on your kids.

Signs of herion abuse:

Constricted, pinpoint pupils

Vomiting

Constipation; use of laxatives

Nodding-out (with increased activity level before)

Track marks on arms

Itching and scratching

Weight loss

Cessation of menstruation

Finding spoons with burn marks

Disappearance of spoons

Foil & gum wrappers with burn marks

Missing shoelaces (used as a tie off for injecting heroin)

Bottles of vinegar and bleach (used to clean needles)

Cotton balls

Well "HotMommy".. thanks for sharing your opinion. I"m her aunt and I"m disappointed to see Nicole acting this way. Again, thank you, oh THANK YOU, yes THANK EWE for your enlightened comments. Now go back to whatever exciting thing it is you do.

Way to go! (pats sheriffs on back) I'd even pitch in some donuts for busting these punks!

I Also Agree that we need some pictures!

3 for a fact have children of their own..One of them just having a baby weeks ago...How cruel can someone be to do this to their baby!! I doubt a lesson will be learned from any of this..from what it looks like its been an ongoing drug problem on the property..Some will never learn or realize that they arnt just hurting themselves!! WHAT A SHAME!

Why aren't their pictures posted like in other arrest articles?

I wish these comment sections were frequented more by people willing to openly discuss this problem. We need to look honestly about this problem. I suggest, as many others have elsewhere, that drugs be regulated, and taxed. Since we're a compassionate people we'll use some of the tax money to pay for that one in ten that develops problems. We'll continue to educate honestly about the dangers of drug abuse, but not to strike fear in someone. As a human experience, drugs are something that shouldn't be denied to a person. It's his or her body, and they should be free to experience the effects of various drugs. Please don't forget our dear neighbors to the South across the border, that are living in fear from the thousands of gruesome murders just last year alone because of this problem. Don't forget the gruesome murders during our own prohibition of alcohol, and what the solution ultimately was.

janesville commments, what good would it do for these student's to sign & date anything about this story, do you really think they care? Just by reading your blog i can see why your not a principal. a drug wall of shame ya that's going to make a different's

How do kids get like this?

What a bunch of losers!

Wondering if this is the tip of the iceberg or the whole iceberg

reconthejon: i dont see where i compared heroin to alcohol. i was just replying to jcoms silly post about trying to scare kids into not using drugs. i wonder if we DID do a comparison of heroin/alcohol which one is used by teens more...and which one causes more teenage deaths. why dont we do a comparison on that?? rite. cuz we both KNOW the answers.

Im wondering.... hmm, my husband is on the fire dept so we have a police scanner at home, one night i heard Rock Co. calling Walworth Co, Jefferson Co, and town of Whitewater, telling them of a home invasion where the 2 occupants of the home were duct taped, and there was a possible rifle involved(they didnt know the type of gun at the time but said it was long.)
I would love to hear more info on what they did.. did they commit robbery to homes? business's? did they hurt anybody?
I've been looking for peice of mind since I heard that... anyone else ever hear about that?

Excuse me, I meant to word one phrase as follows: "who may help get the abuse started".

If you're going to do it right, then you first need to post pictures of moms, dads, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, so-called friends who get the abuse started by leaving prescription pain medications (opiates) and benzodiazapines/barbituates (sedatives) in a non-secure area. For example, medicine cabinets, purses, drawers, glove compartments, etc. Most of the kids hooked on heroin today started by sneaking these medications from the above sources. I am in no way condoning what these suspects have done to feed their habits. I am only writing this in hopes that somebody listens and locks up those medications within the next five minutes. You may think that your child would never take one of your medications and you may be 100 percent correct. But are you also 100 percent sure that his/her friend who is over at your house might not pocket one or two of your pills or capsules? Please, please secure your medications tonight.

This simply makes me sick!!! I moved from Rockford, to Milton nearly 25 years ago, to get away from this crap. My daughters told me there were drugs in Milton, thank God they didn't get "into" that mess, other than some minor experimentation. Now my oldest child has three of her own. I pray she can protect them from it.

And huge kudos to Janesvillecomments.... RIGHT ON!!! Post it! Start in the Middle schools when the kids are starting to get curious. Don't wait for High School! It all gets worse with every new generation. Before we know it, parents will be putting heroin in their baby's bottles.... J/K... but it's scary.

Kid are you really comparing heroin to alcohol now, real good comparison!!!

Now does the community think we have a heroin problem look at the ages and Janesville is full of young users of the crap also............ I hope they bust every dealer and charge them to the max allowed.

good idea janesvillecomments. we should put that board right next to one that has all the storys/obits from all the people who are killed/jailed because of alcohol. we could post a question on that board too 'Thinking about using alcohol 'recreationally' - do you suppose any of these drunks/alchies/lushes didn't also start out thinking they could handle the drug?' or another question 'thinking about drinking and then driving a car -do you think any of the people in these obits WHO DIDNT EVEN TOUCH THE 'EVILER OF TWO EVILS', if alive, would think thats a wise choice??'

Hope if any of these people have children, the kids are removed to a safe place.

9215 N. Newville Road, Edgerton sounds like quite the party house.

The local junior and senior high schools should hold assemblies and read this story to them en masse AND make each student sign and date a paper stating that they have heard it.
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If I was a principal at a jr/sr high school I would build a drug wall of shame and post stories like this in a main hallway display with the rhetorical question: "Thinking about using drugs 'recreationally' - do you suppose any of these dopers/stoners/addicts didn't also start out thinking they could handle the drug?"

Hats of to the law enforcement. And to you young punks - May you find some direction in your messed up lives that teaches you how to lay off the drugs and work (not take) for things you want. It's called karma, and it just gotcha!!!!!!

Tisk tisk. Almost all of these people are just barely out of their teens. That's just sad.