i completely understand what you are both talking about. thats just the way we've been trained to think. but if you would STOP and listen to what im saying you might realize there is a different perspective to every discussion. you talk about the crime and everything that will increase by legalized 'drugs'. is there a better example than alcohol prohibition?? the murders during prohibition happened for profit. all drugs, other than the 'eviler of two evils';) are illegal. WE STILL HAVE A DRUG ABUSE PROBLEM. that drug abuse problem should be a public health concern and NOT a criminal one. what good does it do to lock up a user?? none. even alcohol prohibition didnt punish the user. it punished the supplier. which is where the greed/profit/murders came from...so how does uncle sam end that?? rite...repealing alcohol prohibition and BECOMING THE SUPPLIER. probably the same thing that should be done for all 'drugs' but i dont care about all 'drugs' just the green kind:)

I never said you were a bad person and I have my opinion and you have yours and to legalize any drugs IMO will have a higher crime rate and higher death rate as to heroin/crack etc etc. as the need money and noone will hire an addict. I am glad you are good at your job but reality is if you get hurt on the job then it will have to be addressed as to laws regarding testing. and weed does remain in the system for more then the few hours you are not at work.Just bust em all send them to jail with the most years allowed.

I wasnt saying your a loser I stated a drug that is illegal which it is and 2 of my sons do not drink I have 4 adult sons and 1 dont use at all and you are the one who opened the door to the responses I stated and I hope they bust every dealer and give them all the max allowed it is not just illegal aliens dealing the crap. All the losers dealing it are to lazy to work a real job.IMO And kid i wasnt saying you were a bad person. By the way to legalize drugs as alcohol is would only have higher levels of users and with the more potent drugs more deaths as there is with alcohol which is legal. IMO

its not a weed induced coma. most of my pot use is medical, some recreational of course;), but its certainly not a coma.

irish i understand what you are saying. i agree if you break the law you need to be accountable. if i get caught w pot ill be more than happy to be accountable and TELL EVERYONE I KNOW. bravo on the life you live now. did you use AA?? or god?? i guess thats the same thing;) i turned my life around AND i smoke marijuana. that doesnt make me a bad person or mean my priorities are not in line. ask my kids, my ex, or my employer if my priorities are in line. theyll tell you. of course you can tell when yo kids are high. im guessin you can also tell when theyr drunk. would you as a parent worry more if you knew they were goin out on a sat nite to drink or smoke pot?? you are correct that a lot of jobs test for pot. to bad they dont test for alcohol cuz ill work next to a stoner over an alcoholic every day. my boss knows i smoke. its an open conversation i have WITH ANYONE IN MY LIFE. lets just say i have the 'hippie' look so its an easy/obvious convo with most peeps:) not bragging here, just stating facts...but i am the top performer at my company. do you think my boss cares if i catch a buzz at nite?? this blog isnt even about my use or the fact that its illegal or anything. im merely making a point that if someone truly beleives 'they' are coming here to just sell the coke(which is silly to think that)...well wouldnt it make SOME logical sense(regardless of your personal beliefs) to legalize the drug so there is no market for 'them' to sell it in?? i dont care if yer the holiest of holys that ONLY makes sense. PROHIBITION OF ANYTHING DOESNT CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF USERS IT ONLY CHANGES THE SUPPLIER. so be it weed/coke whatever peeps are GOING to keep using...this also is common knowledge. why not let uncle sam profit and regulate??

here in the real world what is a life like without a mind in a weed induced coma on a daily basis. Just curious as is it the same as mine use to be. I know mine wasted was not even close to reality as what it is today. Oh yes then I had the weed induced intelligence that I see in my sons that smoke it and it does bring back the nostalgia of those days LOL I paid alot of fines also and had more then 12 or 13 charges and I wouldn't change a thing as it has made my life so much better to look back and remember where I stopped living and started existing until I got clean. Life is so much more with a clear head and the knowledge that my experiences have taught me.

kid After many years of wasting my life with alcohol and other mind altering substances and several arrests for drunken stupidity,I Grew up and got Clean. I have not drank or USED any thing in going on 12 years I didn't need a substitute that let me continue to look and act stupid, I didn't replace one with another. I agree that weed is not as intoxicating as alcohol or other drugs but it does alter the perception and actions of those the choose to use it.But the point i am making is it is still illegal... IMO anyone that sells drugs including weed need to be held accountable for illegally selling drugs. A drug is a drug whether coke, crack, heroin, and or weed. As of right now as far as I know they are not legal. By the way kid;) I have adult sons with the same perception as you and I always know when they are high as the stupid look on their face give them away. Also they have done jail time and paid fines for weed charges and so what is the difference as if you caught with weed instead of alcohol it is still going to cost you. And one other thing, most employers do drug testing and if you are dirty with any type of drug guess what; you don't get the job.

For all of you who commented on things like "send them back", or "put them on work detail". Please search the Internet on why we don't do that. Read about American history, and why things are the way they are. Read how prisoners in China all "volunteer" their organs, and how organ transplant operations are booming over there. But first, click on this link to get you in the mood:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDgkUPokc...

When thekid is right, thekid is right.

spark: i didnt say im for legalizing coke. altho there is ALOT of logic to it

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im just merely pointing out that if you think 'they' come here to sell coke cuz the prisons are better here, then if we had uncle sam control it they woulndt have a reason to come here. its simple.

irishlady: trust me. after 13 alcohol related arrests in 13 years and completely straightening my life out after i quit drinking AND STARTED SMOKING POT EVERY DAY i think my priorities are right in line;) good day

Spark - Now that was funny! I knew you had it in ya!

krsmith01-Never been in a Mexican prison either. I have stayed at a Holiday Inn though.

Chiller-that was hilarious. I wouldn't wanna be locked up with one of those.

Northman - That's a pretty clever approach. I would definitely support it.

Put them in a cell with a chimpanzee with Lymes Disease

Deport now not later..why should the taxpayers pay to keep them in the US locked up in prison...

Northman: that's the best idea I have heard yet. U.S. taxpayers dont pay to feed and house these criminals for life and the risk of the death penalty is a real deterant to keep them out. Kudos.

Sheesh Spark - I said a mexican prison - I never made any assumtions pertaining to you being involved with the DRUG WORLD! Lighten up. . .I know, I know, they don't call you "Spark" for nothing. And how do you know if I even HAVE a job, let alone a DAY job! See,. . . you're making assumptions! . . . Now go take a pill ya cry baby.

Kid I think you need to straighten out your priorities as to some of your statement Drugs are illegal including weed so to try and convince anyone including yourself it is safe and okay to use weed is not even a rational thought on your behalf. Just My Opinion

Bt the time they get out the way it is going they will be legal.IMO

If you deport them now, I don’t believe Mexico is obligated to incarcerate them. In fact, given the jurisdiction issues, they may not legally be able to.
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That’s why, in a previous post, I recommended in cases with illegal aliens, giving them a nominal sentence to serve now, say 3 years, plus a suspended death sentence. After 3 years, then deport them. If they ever come back, you just usher them into the chair with all the wires on it, and light ‘em up. That really cuts down on the incentive to return. And as long as they stay south of the border (or back in whatever country they came from), they have nothing to fear. Simple, easy to implement, and no real drawbacks.

Kid - I'm not going to get into with you about legalizing drugs. Good God. You are high if you think cocaine should be legalized.

yeah spark. thats why 'they' come to the u.s. our jails arent as harsh. if 'they' come here to commit crimes cuz our prisons arent as harsh...wouldnt it make sense to legalize drugs and take the market away from them?? if i can go to a federally regulated 'drug' dispensary there would be NO reason for 'them' to bring their product here. fewer illegal drugs=fewer illegal aliens.

Fix the hole in the fence and stop the problem at the source!

krsmith01-Read it again. That's not what he was saying. No I don't have any experience in the drug world. Thanks for assuming though. Don't quit your day job for comedy.

Spark - are you sending your comments from a mexican prison by chance?. . . .or a Holiday Inn. It just sounds like you have some experience is all.

Spark - I think that was the point jbsback45330 was trying to make is that, although they got busted here, make them do the time back in a filthy mexican prison instead of the Holiday Inn's we have here.

Are we slow? You seen a Mexican prison lately? Why do you think they come to the states to do the crime? They sure as hell don't want to get caught back where they come from. This is like the Holiday Inn here.

Are you people really that slow? Lets deport them now, that way they'll be back here in a month doing the same thing, 17-1/2 years is pretty harsh though, I believe that the laws in this state need to be revised so the time begins fitting the crime

Deported when done with their sentence. Yeah right. I had someone commit a crime against me and was supposed to be deported after their sentence and they are still here in the country even though with their crimes they are not allowed to become a US citizen.

Bed, bread & a roof over their head. What more incentive do they need to commit a crime? Send them back NOW! Why should we feed and house criminals when we are struggling to feed and house our own families?!?!?

How did we get away from putting these people on a "chain gang" or some kind of work detail instead of just costing us all money???

OMG- exactly! Wouldn`t that be the real punishment sending them back? Instead we US Citizens get to house and feed them on our dime. Great. We are a joke.

Why don't they deport them now and let them serve their sentences there? Just another way to stick it to the tax payers, let us feed and house them for years, then kick them out.

I got a better idea. Deport them back to Mexico now.