"Why else would we constantly hear about other towns problems and not our own?"

It's clear your unfortunate experience has clouded your objectivity. The Gazette reports crimes in every issue. In fact, as posted below, the crime marymac4 posted about was already reported by the Gazette. While I don't see where the problems of other towns are reported more than Janesville, even if they were, another explanation is that Janesville has less major crime than your mythical "other towns". I'm only commenting because of your outrageous claim of a 'cover up' by the Police and 'government', whoever they are.

"marymac, we dont hear about the incidents in janesville because they COVER THEM UP!"

Wow. Any proof? If not, you're a paranoid crank.

Suck's to be you!

I came back for a few minutes to see if the same loser is still crying about Janesville'police LOL

I'm eating crackers, listening to itunes, and smoking a cigar....I have no idea what 'gixer' wants, or is trying to say. I'll just sit here and keep trying to. Maybe if I were intoxicated I could do so!

PLEASE,PLEASE and here you are 12 hours later still bashing Janesville's finest.

Look it up (the word DISTURB) and while your at it, go back and read all of your posts DA!!!

Hey (gonefishin) It's me gixxer,the one you think dumped his rice bike a few times (unlike you who may fell of the boat a few times).Your starting to contradict yourself now. Maybe you shuold go back and read what you said earlier. I still think you are disturb and maybe even two faced...

Yep...I think some of these kids could manage themselves better too. I'm not that old, and things have sure changed quickly! Fortunately, I'm always up at those hours!
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I hope this Sims guy is behind concrete and bars in Rock soon.

Yes he is a very professional Officer. I have met him numerous times. Police have a job to do and they simply can't be judged accurately by most of us, because it isn't easy for outsiders to understand how it all 'ticks'. He is like most of them on the force I'm sure.

These kids can only be out on the circuit or else doing 'drugs' etc? What about staying at home, doing homework, sports you know, what Americans should be doing? I don't make excuses for anyone like that. Why do kids need to be constantly appeased in only unhealthy, and unmentored crap! We let people (and younger people) dictate too much. Saying 'no' once in a while would be nice. You probably have a similar opinion as I do, except for your disdain being over the top. And yes, a couple of people always ruin it for the others. Mainly these leaders forget where they came from, and turn to the public opinion side of things too much. Basically PR and PC people who run things into the ground.

No. I know we have a gang problem. I also caught on to the other points you made, and your slight concession. But you need to read your own posts. You can't believe all that with reason. I can't justify your previous posts, though I'm sure they have their moments, every human does. Could you do what they do? By the way, not to sound so vain...I am very informed and experienced, so thank you. I am a smart one!

By the way.....most problems in any agency, corporation, community (etc.) is usually caused or put in place by one person or a small group of people, like a bad administrator or a council/ board, or elected official. Do you think these cops want anything less than full results? Sometimes their hands are tied.
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Hope the carjacker sits locked up forever, and the two vicitms are emotionally okay!

babsjvl....What!!!!! Is there not a present danger for any cop out there.? Why do you ask when they are 'putting there lives on the line'...? Stop trying to make sense! Who are you to judge them? What do you do for a living Mrs. Armchair quarter back?! I've lived in Janesville for over 36 years, and I know there is politics involved (isn't that the case everywhere? But what do you want these cops to do? Get your mail, wash your car, and run into a burning house while whistling dixie! I'm just fine with them continuing their jobs--patrolling. I have had to call on Janesville Police more than once, and they were excellent!

Gonefishin....You seem to be making statements which appear to be specific and are just general ones. There are crimes everywhere which are not solved. Simply making these opinionated jousts doesn't substantiate anything about the quality of a Police Department.
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I want to know why an article about an incident involving another community and another State's jurisdiction (because he fled), has caused you to bash JPD? Simply tell us readers why you are mad at them. Don't be 'general' and be unbiased if you can. By the way, I think our Police haven't cracked down on the 'curcuit' enough. These kids cause alot of problems for traffic, (i.e.)accidents, after hours at businesses, and it's a huge waste of time and fuel.
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My guess is you have a history yourself, or you wouldn't be talking like this. I like what the other post says....go to the Academy and try working that field yourself, then you can deal with the unreasonable people in our society. There's always too many of them.

Fish: I agree! The Cards got robbed on that play by Santonio Holmes. He absolutely did NOT have both toes in bounds. The one, yes. The other, however, was piggybacked and never touched. And, that last play...no way was that a fumble. Oh well. Here's to next year.... J!E!T!S!!

What a slime.

gonefishin-I have absolutely zero tolerance or time for people that bash law enforcement or ridicule the job they're doing when they are out there protecting you and me. For someone like babsjvl to have the nerve to make a comment like "when do cops really put their lives in danger?' Are you kidding me? That says al lot about how ignorant someone is to what a police officer actually does and has to deal with. Say all you want, I'm done dealing with such stupid posts. It's beyond pathetic.

Gonefishin: build a bridge and get over it. To say you crossed the line would be a huge understatement. You can bust chops without introducing vulgarity or compromising your own integrity. Having said that: stay on topic or don't post at all. Please, thank you and have a nice day.

babsjvl-By the way, I can give you a list of 1st shifters that could chase you or anyone down in a heartbeat. I can also tell you that all of them care about what they're doing. You see, all of you that bash the police obviously have had some past experiences you're not sharing otherwise you wouldn't have such a hate for them.

Most things don't get reported because of on going investigations. They can't jeopardize investigations by publishing incidents.

The shots fired on Mt. Zion were blanks fired. It was a domestic disturbance with twenty something people. There were several people that went to the hospital. No one was arrested.

babsjvl-Get a clue!! I can name three officers that were all involved with shootings. All of them weren't even on the force that long. Nice ignorant statement. Get your facts straight before you make such a stupid comment. When do they put their lives on the line? Everyday they go to work. When do you put your life on the line? Let me guess, never. Seriously, all you whiners that complain about everything. Either pack a bag, and get out of town or step up to the plate and do the job yourself. No matter what that job may be.

I your disturb. LOL

Maybe your just not aware of all property crime cases that are closed. Nobody really knows how many are actually solved ?

Think of this, the next time you dial "911" you might get JPD! and it may be when your life or home is at risk.

(gonefishin)I know you complain alot,it must be you have alot of sparetime on your hands. Maybe you should direct your thoughts to your local congressman.

gonefishin I really understand what you are sayingspark and momof5 need to get a clue. All i want to know is when does the JPD put their life on the line? some examples would be nice most of them are so young that they don't care about what goes on and the older one work during the day and not at night when everything goes on. How many of the 1st shifters can get out and chase some one down? You can hand them everything they need to catch people and they wait for weeks to get them. What is wrong with that picture?

So you guys with scanners, does it make you feel more or less safe when you hear EVERYTHING that goes on in our area? I don't need to scanner to tell me that our area has a lot of crime.....just look outside.

Sounds like "gonefishin" may have had a little run in with the law at sometime,to be so angered so easily could make a person feel (fishy)about you? Maybe you just need to chill out and go FISHING!!!

this doesnt have anything to do with this article but the bar robbery sounds familiar to the mobil gas station robbery on milton ave about 2 months ago.. a black man, wearing a black ski mask, and left on foot.. and both footprints led to a waiting car.. i think JPD needs to look into it

Like I said, everyone that thinks they can do a better job, go get the training and join the force. Just please remember that accountability is still a big part of life.

i have to agree with some comments. I practically live in Mayberry. How many times do police have to be called or how many police reports have to be made or taking away weapons so no killings happen before the police do something? Most police suck in any town!

TommyRay---
“No one” is always two separate words, unlike “anyone” and “someone.” http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/noone....

The incident on Palm Street ealier posters commented on was actually on Pine Street.

Police reports say men got into a fight after drinking alcohol.

Reports say one of the men was struck by a baseball bat, while another man made threats with a knife.

One man was arrested, but a second man remains at large, reports say.

The incident was reported in today's paper as a substantial battery in the public record.

An arrest stemming from the incident will be reported in Tuesday's paper in the public record.

Ted Sullivan
The Janesville Gazette

Good morning, Joker! I've been wondering where you were. As far as getting back on topic, I think the Janesville Police do fairly well with a tough job. And, yes, I would like to thank them. As far as getting crime reports posted in the newspaper: If readers don't see a specific incident reported in the newspaper, email the newsroom. Somebody will look into it I bet.

This entire thing has gotten way of topic and out of control. The police dept is doing the best they can. The crime rate is increasing because of hard times and unfortunately people that make poor choices. The JPD does not have the powers to protect every citizen, every waking hour of the day. They cannot work magic. We don't have all the inside info and sometimes it's better we don't have all the info so they can continue an investigation. Let's not knock them for protecting us. A simple thank you would be better. Make sure to look out for yourself first and they can assist second.

Come on boys and girls, play nice. Can't we all get along?

Ya I read it. She was responding to your insults from an earlier post. I'm not attacking anyone and I haven't attacked anyone. I simply was bringing up another side of this story and it went all personal.

gonefishin- You tried that same game with me sometime back. Sent me a personal email and then said I sent you one first when I never did. You seriously need to stop taking everything so personally.

That's not even the half of it! Anyone who wants to see what a TRUE class act "gonefishin" is...contact me and I will forward you the message he just sent me. It is so beautiful I may just frame it and hang it by my bedside table. He does have a way with words.

gonefishin has apparently carjacked this thread.

gonefishin: No. Sorry. I am much too hot to be Aunt B. Check your email. I'm not above spewing out insults. Unlike you though, I have more class than to publicly (an uninformedly) show the world I have uncontrolled diarrhea of the mouth.

Ever seen the show "Are you smarter than a 5th grader?" Well, we have something in common. You have less intelligence than one and I weigh LESS than one.

Because she called you Gomer Pyle after you referred to the town of Mayberry? Go read your response to her comment again. A little harsh. As far as negativity's of the JPD. Find me anyone that doesn't have that. The difference is, they're the police and everyone thinks they're super heros and are going be able to swoop down and solve everyones problems. They are doing their best and we don't have all the inside info. Burglaries are hard to solve. They will get them solved with time. I'm more happy they can handle an immediate crisis like you mentioned.

gonefishin: Your posting here at 10:56 would be enough to find you psychologically unfit to be a law officer.

gonefishin - Judging from your last post to momo5, you're a real class act.

gonefishin: How about you take the day off and GO FISHIN and leave the PROFESSIONALS do their jobs? They cannot ALWAYS dig for more evidence because of laws and regulations. Like I said, just because Horatio can do it, doesn't mean Officer Friendly can.

I will admit: I haven't always had the most productive experiences with the JPD. However, I am cognizant of the FACT that they do a VERY necessary job that I, under no circumstance, would be willing to do! Incompetent or not, 100k a year or not, I would not want to be out on the streets doing their job. Might mean I'd have to save some sorry ingrate like yourself.

And, futhermore, deferred prosecution does NOT always mean their record will be wiped totally clean. The charge will still be there. It will NOT show a conviction, however. And, in some cases, they may have been charged with robbery but after the completion of deferred prosecution, it will be reduced to a lesser charge like theft. Deferred prossecution, contrary to what you would like to believe, is not a walk in the park either. If you are even A MINUTE late--you are booted out of the class...if your mother suddenly dies and you don't show up--you are booted out of the class. Don't pay for the program? Booted out. There is "homework" for each class and the facilitators can easily detect someone who is using smoke and mirrors to make their way through. If you are truly remorseful and have learned your lesson, it isn't a big deal. But, if you haven't "gotten it" yet, I sincerely doubt you will pass.

I consider myself and the police force where I live to be pretty competent. Neither of us checked the history on my 3 computers when our business was broken into. Maybe, Gomer, you really should join the Academy and show us ALL how it's suppose to be done!

gonefishin-EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS YOUR EXAMPLES!!!! Just because they didn't catch the person right away, doesn't mean they're not trying or won't. What part don't YOU get? This isn't television and they don't have magic powers.

gonefishin- There's no reason to judge me and the people I associate with. Pretty petty. I don't know how old some of the cases are. Why don't you call and find out. Get the play by play from them. I do know of a lot of cases that have been solved, that you and many others don't know about because you haven't read about them on the Gazette site.
Oh ya, judging from my past interactions with you, I would find it safe to say your just another whiner that lives in this town and rather than simply moving, complains about everything. The tone of these conversations didn't really need to go this route, but you chose that.

A lot of crimnals get their info and learn how to do it from these shows that are on TV, it sad but true! I wouldn't bash all of the police in this town some are very good but there are always one or to bad apples in a bunch no I don't feel safe walking down any of the streets in Janesville or any other town at night. And would never make a night deposit why would you this isn't the 80's anymore.

Going to a night deposit in the dark isn't the smartest idea no matter where you're at. That isn't the police dept's fault. Do you want one to personally ride with you everywhere you go so you feel safe 100% of the time?

gonefishin: if it is soooo bad< why don't you move? The jurisdiction I live in probably wouldn't have sent an officer out--they would have sent you a self-reporting form that you filed out and sent back in....THEN they would have a detective call you. The first face to face contact you would have with ANY member of the police force would be atleast a week later. We had a trailer stolen with merchandise in it--est worth over 8k. NEVER did we even SEE a police officer or detective. Unless you have a suspect in mind, they won't send someone out. Period.

If this is Mayberrym who are you? Gomer Pyle?

gonefishin- "I understand that the cases are still open, and are supposedly being actively investigated. however, the fact of the matter is they arent solved and probably never will be." I made your point? No I didn't. Your point makes absolutely zero sense. Your opinion is because the crime wasn't solved right away, it never will be. That's real intelligent. And no, the real reason isn't because you wouldn't take a pay cut, it's because you, like many others, aren't willing to put your life on the line to protect others. That is perfectly fine as long as people can admit it.

Some of you people are watching way too many CSI shows and seeing crimes solved in an hour.

We had our business broken into 3 times. The police came out, took a report and that was that. After the 3rd time, they did take the cash register drawer to finger print. Problem is, this isn't CSI folks. Prints overlap, smudge or don't transfer. Fingerprints only work if the perp has a print on file. Again, this isn't CSI or Law and Order. Cases are not broke wide open and solved in 60 minutes minus commercial breaks....and rarely does the suspect confess becaue the detective uses some cheesey line on them and raises their eyebrows like Horatio does.

So, gonefishin, I wouldn't say that the JPD is incompetent. Not as awesome as their CSI: NY, LV or Miami counterparts, yes. Incompetent, no. They have REAL laws and regulations to deal with...not to mention REAL equipment and software...oh...and REAL evidence.

It says Janesville man arrested, not man arrested in Janesville. This happened in Beloit. The delay in info was from Beloit to the Gazette not the JPD. Everyone is so quick to bad mouth the people that risk their lives to protect us even when they are not involved. Besides, the police are not responsible for reporting, they are responsible for policing. Who ever said they were reporters or it was to be their job?

++Then 3 weeks later they actually make an arrest and our LOVELY DA puts them in some program called the "deferred prosecution" program. After a year in the program their record is cleared.++

Gonefishin--In regards to your statement about deferred prosecution, that is only used for first time offenders. And it is NOT a dumb program. It is used for people who have a lapse in judgement and have never been in trouble before. And as far as I know the program isn't a year long, just a few months of classes every day. If they successfully complete the course and don't miss classes, the charge is erased from their record.

gonefishin - I also want to go on record by saying I was trying to simply shed some light on the other side of the story with regards to how the JPD has to operate, but then you continued to personally attack their intelligence and this is the direction the posts have gone. If you're willing to put your life on the line for others, I suggest you step up to the plate and join the force. We'd obviously all be safer with you on board.

gonefishin- They obviously are still investigating and don't have all the information they need to solve some particular crimes yet! Do you think they still aren't investigating them? Or they should be giving the public a play by play? You see, I don't judge them because of what they have to deal with everyday. The general public and the unfortunate amount of scumbags. I appreciate what they do and trust they will do the best job they can with the information they are provided. They have made huge arrests on continuing burglaries and a big one most recently. If you didn't read about that, you should have.

As far as the cruising of the circuit. I could care less if the kids are out there. We used to do it and then it was stopped because business owners complained. Just like they are today. That is the reason the police are out there because business owners (other citizens) have complained. And that 's what the police have to do. Deal with public complaints. You see, it's really easy for everyone to blame the police, when in fact, it's there local citizens they should be upset with when it comes to some of these issues.

gonefishin- I happen to have friends on the JPD and there is reasons certain information is held in many cases from the public. You just assume because a crime is committed that it will automatically get solved? Doesn't always work that way. If everyone thinks everything they here on a scanner is going to be broadcasted to the public, you're highly mistaken. Unless you need it for work, I'm not sure why the public has scanners anyways. Calling them pathetic is pretty harsh and I would suggest anyone that thinks they can do better, to go sign up for the Acadamy and give it a shot.

Why is this guy not being charged with kidnapping, the law says kidnapping is when you force someone to go somewhere without there permission against there will. Is that not one of the things they got O.J Simpson on?

I agree with the previous posters. I heard the incident on Palm street on the scanner. Also what happened on Mount Zion on Friday morning has never been mentioned either, shots fired, house surrounded and the ambulance was also called for a subject bleeding "severly" from the head.Is it the Police or the Gazette who are not forwarding the stories to the public. I have always wondered why we get so many Walworth county court reports but rarely see the Rock county reports or why all the police reports of drunk drivers in Walworth county and hardly any from Janesville/Rock county. The scanner certainly has more than are reported.

Contrary to what many people believe, keeping information away from the public with some of these cases, is a good thing. If a case is being investigated and they don't want people tipped off, that's the way it should be. Let them do their jobs. The crime rate has gone up because of the times and everyone knows it. An increase in crimes means it's going to be harder to solve some of them. That doesn't mean they are horrible at what they do. I just wish everyone would back of the police. They are doing their best.

Another thing we get the beloit crime as soon as it is reported then why not here in Janesville? I have a question as to the violent incident on the near westside on Sat. night why is nothing posted in here you had severely beaten subjects with weapons a van with every window smashed out and were searching for more suspects and had a list of witnesses offering to give info one man in custody as one of the alledged suspects....I believe it was in the 300 block of Palm and some address in the 1000 block of Ravine. If anyone has a scanner they will know what im talking about. Several officers were there. And another incident with several people near Rockport. I would think with as many police officers that responded there would be something in the paper.

I heard this on scanner and if I am correct about the right one the victims were from New York and the car was a Mercedes. I am glad they are Okay and i wonder if they will return to wisconsin,

Wouldn't it be great if people with an extensive criminal history could be identified by sight rather than actions like this one? At least noone was seriously hurt and he's temporarily unable to make more history.