MiltonRedmen- Interesting about the other recall, but my car's recall was for the same reason as this one. I noticed that this recall is for naturally aspirated engines whereas mine was for supercharged engines.

3.8L V6 is a good engine; been around since the seventies! Just need to figure a good way to route exhaust around it!

MiltonRedmen your right the 3.8 is a good engine. also the 2.8 v6 /3.1 was pretty good
and the 2.5 4 cylinder i think most refered to this engine as the iron duke.

CitizenOne - Grammar must not have come with that engineering degree. And didn't you just admit to being a pothead and wishing people get into bad wrecks and die from drinking on the hockey team topic? Which by the way, those comments were removed.

I'm only pointing out the spelling errors is because it's a little hypocritical to be spouting off about being educated and all that if you can't spell.

"ONE"I hate to pick,but,and i hate it when the spell patrol is out.But some one didn't learn how to spell very good in school,i have an excuse,but you don't,MR.PERFECTTTTT!!!! You praise your parents,but they must have forgotten to teach you compassion for man kind!!

So, CitizenOne, when you went to "UW Mil", did you take an English class that perhaps had spelling in the curriculum? Doesn't look like it. But I won't say I disagree with some of your points...

I heard the Janesville Task Force is trying to get GM to open the Janesville plant so they can fix all of these recalled vehicles. They feel "the door is still open" for GM to agree to this. So it looks like the workers may be called back to work!

I guess in this world,all we have left is faith,& no new taxes! Neither,seem to be working very well.

Ok Woodsman fair is fair. GM has no money. GM is closing plants. GM is reducing hours at plants that are open. If they do file bankrupcy how long will the government want to wait to collect their/our money? To many signs point to their inability to repay the money back.

I guess "YOU" would have to show ME,where they can't pay it back,only fair! I suppose "IF" they went under,the government would put a judgment on things,until they are satisfied,like things are done in the real world. I know i can't,being only one,save this company,but the chevy line of cars,IMO,are compared to the mouse trap,no matter who tries to improve vehicles ,they "ARE" the best on this planet.JMO

GM is not going to be able to pay off the loan, Most of us know that. Some of us are in denial that Generous Motors went under.

Woodsman show me where and how GM can pay back the money the got in the BAILOUT? I am no expert never claimed to be. Just know what I see.

Don't get too hung up on the semantics. I prefer to call it a loan also, mainly to distinguish the loans to GM and Chrysler from the outright gifts to the financial sector. But according to Wikipedia, the loans to the auto companies could be considered a bailout.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailout
The first sentence: "In economics, a bailout is an act of loaning or giving capital to a failing business in order to save it from bankruptcy, insolvency, or total liquidation and ruin".
Now there's another word: bankruptcy. Like it or not folks, GM is in de facto bankruptcy. I think that the national government, and GM, will go to great lengths to prevent an actual filing, but that appears to be inevitable.

Maybe these people that DON'T know the difference between a "LOAN & BAILOUT"?? They must run their lives like,hey buddy,give me a LOAN,after the fact when asked to return the loan monies,they say,THANX FOR BAILING me out bud!! Trust,you must have Trust my friend!

Unless GM goes completely under in a liquidation bankruptcy, they will remain obligated to repay the temporary loan they were given, which is considered a prepayment on the overall bailout proposal.
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By the way, the Chrysler loans they were given (and repaid) in the 1980s were called a bailout. I don't know where people get the idea the money does not have to be repaid.

MiltonRedMan doesn't matter how reliable it is if its a fire hazard now does it?

Actually anonomouse, the engine in the vehicles being recalled (the 3.8L Series II) is one of the most reliable motors ever built by anyone and was on Ward's Top 10 engines list for that time period. It is an extremely reliable motor and the last GM 3.8L I had went well over 300,000 miles before it began to have any issues. In fact, the GM 3.8 is one of the most sought after motors of its era.

befferer - this recall by GM was issued April 8, 2009 according to the NHTSA website. There was a previous recall to some 3.8 vehicles for potential engine fire due involving the fuel pressure regulator causing the manifold to crack and injectors to leak potentially causing a fire. That recall was issued in 2004, this is a different item.

We all know GM will be unable to pay back this *cough,cough* Loan. I'm glad this article is showing GM quality I've been hearing about here.

cjjs: So WHO makes you an expert to be positive that G.M. will not pay the gov. back? So you are saying that the REAL bailout's will NOT be paid back either,"RIGHT"

GM recalls better times.

I'll take GM's track record of car fires over Ford's any day, lol.

I wish that the last three GM vehicles I had would have burned up!
I was the only one burned by repair costs and depreciation.

Woodsman a loan is something you pay back. GM has no intention of paying back the money the government gave them. Therefore it is a bailout.

SORRY CHAINSAW: But G.M. DID NOT GET A BAIL OUT,it was a LOANNNNNNNNNN!!!

I would get the recall serviced ASAP......From the latest reports GM is one step away from bankruptcy.....It will take some time to reorganize. If this recall applies to anyone, it might be a good idea to get it taken care of....

That is what they could use the plant for. A recall center.

I received word of this a couple of years ago. It only took a few minutes to correct the problem. Why is it hitting the media just now?

I believe it's the manifold. My son had 1 blow up a few years ago. He did research and found that they had had recalls with earlier models. They bought his car back.

Oh poopy, I just bought a '98 Lumina LTZ with the 3.8.

"Apparently, some of these engines can drop oil onto the exhaust manifold during hard braking. If that manifold has gotten hot enough and the oil dribbles below the heat shield, it can start a small fire. The flames can then engulf the plastic spark plug wire channel, potentially resulting in a full-on engine compartment fire.

The fix? Dealer service departments will be asked to remove said spark plug wire retention channel from the front of the engine bay, and then retrofit two new retainers."
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/13/gm-to...

now we know where some of that bail out money is going to go.

Let's see:
"no reports of any fires or injuries"
- Okay. That's good.
" it was a precautionary measure for consumers"
- Then why did it take up to TWELVE YEARS? lol

i have a 00 grand prix, guess i should get it up to rock county

Looks like getting a new engine or car.

Doesn't really state which part is being recalled....