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Judge allows NAACP to join Wis. voter suit

By ASSOCIATED PRESS   Thursday, October 2, 2008 - 10:25 a.m.
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) The NAACP and a Milwaukee teachers union can participate in a lawsuit demanding election workers verify tens of thousands of voters' identities by Election Day, a judge ruled Thursday.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People's Milwaukee chapter and the Milwaukee Teachers' Education Association argued the lawsuit could keep thousands of black people and other minorities from casting ballots. They asked Dane County Judge Maryann Sumi to allow them to join the lawsuit and consider their motion to dismiss it.

Sumi said both groups could join the lawsuit because they have a legitimate interest in its outcome. She says she'll rule Oct. 23 on their motion to dismiss.

Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen brought the suit in September. It revolves around the federal Help America Vote Act, which requires states to compile lists of registered voters and cross-reference those names with driver's license and Social Security data to confirm voters' identities.

The law took effect in Wisconsin on Jan. 1, 2006. But state election officials couldn't get their cross-checking software to work until this past August.

The state Government Accountability Board, which oversees Wisconsin elections, ordered local election clerks to cross-check only voters who registered after the software went into use. Thousands of voters have been red-flagged since then over such innocent issues as using a middle initial on a driver's license but not for voter registration.

Van Hollen's suit demands the board do checks back to Jan. 1, 2006, when the law took effect. He wants the accountability board to identify ineligible voters and remove them from the rolls.

Local clerks say they would have to check up to a million people before the Nov. 4 election, and they can't physically do it.

The state Republican and Democratic parties have already joined the lawsuit.




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RetiredAirForce
Oct 3, 2008 at 12:24 a.m.
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It is hilarious to see the teachers union against this. You should all know the teachers union requires a valid teachers union ID to vote for any issue regarding their union business.

JohnDoe
Oct 2, 2008 at 8:50 p.m.
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qschrader....if it were only that simple.

usaret
Oct 2, 2008 at 6:17 p.m.
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Thanks for the answer professor. I have no real answers either but to put trust in people to do right. As for timing, is there ever going to be a right time. It's too late, too soon, too little. But, it would be nice to go through an election that is not marred by voter fraud. This is one time the parties have to work together not be at each others throats. Don't know if it will ever happen but it would be nice.

Professor
Oct 2, 2008 at 4:18 p.m.
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Not sure, actually. But I do NOT think that that the timing of this lawsuit is as benign as some believe. I do NOT support voter fraud, and they should be removed from the roles. And MAYBE this lawsuit is the best way to do it. I'm just not convinced that the timing by a Republican A.G. bringing this type of lawsuit, is apolitical. IF this is the only way to do it, then, either get a special prosecutor, or wait until after the election. Not perfect, but at least there is less of an issue concerning conflict of interest. But, like Sara P. said, 'I'll look for some [other ways] and get back to ya!'

usaret
Oct 2, 2008 at 3:54 p.m.
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Well professor, if that is a fact then why are you so dead set against eliminating voter fraud?
What is your plan to eliminate voter fraud????

Professor
Oct 2, 2008 at 3:09 p.m.
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Oh, and who is calling the dems, and identifying themselves as Obama campaign workers, and reminding people to vote for Obama on Nov. 11th? (election is the 4th); or, who is calling dems and telling them that the new Help America Vote act allows you to cast your vote on Wed., Nov. 5th, if you can't make it the 4th?

usaret
Oct 2, 2008 at 3:08 p.m.
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If a democrat is elected--it's the will of the people.
If a republican is elected--it's voter fraud.
So, why do the democrat's cry bloody murder over voter fraud and then when someone tries to do something about it, they cry bloody murder that the poor, the elderly, etc., are being denied the opportunity to vote.
With elections every two years, somewhere in that time, you've had a chance to check to see if your voter registration was upto date and resolve any problems. Waiting till election day to find out there is a problem is no excuse.
If you want illegal's to vote then let them vote in your place and you stay home.
Fraud is just the current excuse to use because your candidate lost.
Both sides have to work at eliminating voter fraud not just blaming each other,but of course it is easier to complain then to solve. So if you get to the polls to vote and find out you've already voted well----don't blame the person at the table, blame the one in the mirror.

Professor
Oct 2, 2008 at 3:06 p.m.
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Are you kidding me, 49? The Dems have been so dishonest??? Who is being investigated for caging this campaign? Which candidate is sending FAKE registration applications, such that if you send it back to the address given, and it is republican, they send it on to the appropriate clerk; if it's dem, they throw it out???

redtop49
Oct 2, 2008 at 2:13 p.m.
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It's because the Dems have been so blatant in there cheating, and they seem to imply with this lawsuit that minorities aren't smart enough to register properly, kind of insulting.

SarahB
Oct 2, 2008 at 1:34 p.m.
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Professor: Wow! That is disgusting. I am so disappointed in my country right now. Everything is a frickin' joke and ethics mean so little it seems. I truly feel sad ... and I am not trying to be sarcastic. I really feel sad and disappointed.

Professor
Oct 2, 2008 at 1:17 p.m.
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Yeah, let's talk about Florida. When the then Secretary of State hired a company to purge the voter registration lists around the state of convicted felons. Sounds like a good idea. Except until you read the email from her to the company that says to err on the side of excluding voters. So, if you have a convicted felon by the name of William F. Johnson, then, just to be safe, also exclude William E. Johnson, William F. Johnston, etc. Turned out, over 10,000 LEGITIMATE voters were struck from the list. Oh, I forgot, the clear majority were Dems...

qschrader
Oct 2, 2008 at 1:09 p.m.
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Let's be honest it is simply a lie that we do not have enough time to accomplish this! It will only take a computer at most a couple of hours to flag the differences. After that each flag entry could be either confirmed or rejected via human review in a matter of a couple of minutes each. The real issue is that it severely limits the possibility of vote fraud!

SarahB
Oct 2, 2008 at 12:38 p.m.
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Kcole: The law itself is not what is in dispute in this case. It is the fact that there is not enough time to do the voter checks before the Nov. 4 election. That problem is a result of software trouble. Yesterday, while driving in Madison, I was stuck in line behind a huge van with "Van Holland, Wisconsin AG" posted on its rear. I noted several other drivers honking their horns and giving the van "the middle finger salute". I don't condone such behavior but admit it was funny to see.

kcole
Oct 2, 2008 at 12:17 p.m.
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Isn't it more of a coincidence that the teacher's union and the NAACP want undocumented people to vote? The same people that slashed the tires of 30 vans to give republicans a ride to vote are the same ones who sqeal the loadest when someone makes a reasonable law to identify yourself before voting.

lvbald537
Oct 2, 2008 at 11:34 a.m.
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In yesterday's Gazette (page 10B) there was an article that Florida began enforcing the "controversial law" three weeks ago and that in Orange County just more than 50% of the challenged registrations were from Democrats and 10% were from Republicans. It also said that more than three-fourths of those registered in the county this year were Democrats. Is it just a coincedence that these challenges are instituted by Republican office-holders?

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