I hate to break it to you Joan but the little drug called Pot leads to other drugs that do kill!! These are not "Poor Kids", these are rebels who try to get away with drugs and also hiding things. I KNOW!!! and I didn't have a clue and I'm a good parent. My kid was very good at hiding stuff. I was very involved and still didn't have a clue about how savvy these kids are. I think that the principals and teachers are sometimes as niave as I was. Blame the kids who are doing this, it is there choice! No one forced my kid to take drugs, he chose to do it. Let the kids start taking responsiblity for their actions and Parents should let them take the consequences for it!! Don't blame others from the President all the way down to the Principal! How niaeve are YOu!!!!

One more thing

FIRE THE PRINCIPLES! They should be fired! They are lazy bullying jerks and aren't doing their jobs! I'd have the kids who are doing drugs busted in a month through a little investigative work. Oh - that would be work which doesn't happen when you are smoking cigarettes in the teacher's lounge.

1) Busting kids for drugs is not going to help their careers. Isn't that why they are in school? To later have successful lives?
2) Drug testing and drug sniffing dogs in parking lots is the lazy man's way of supervising. Focus on behavior rather than testing. If a child's behavior becomes erratic, address the problem.
3) Hitler would have approved of these tactics. Those of you who do not object to the poor treatment of these kids are easy prey for fascists
4) After years of fascism from George Bush, to see it hit so close to home is scary.
5) We are not setting a good example for our kids and are scaring them.
6) Of course, all they found was a little marijuana which by the way no one has ever ended up dead from - and that's what smells most - not cocaine or other dangerous drugs.

as a parent whose family has struggled with a child who got drugs and alcohol at school,I am all for this!!! I've seen too much heartbreak and am tired of these drugs and alcohol being so readily available to children!! Get in their and search everything and everybody,including all staff!!!

yes spark I guess you do need to be educated. Funny how the cops can raid the school but when someone breaks into your house it takes them over an hour to get to the scene. And what's up with going to the police department after 5 and it's closed. You have to call 911 shame if it's a non emergency issue. That's waisting dispaches time for A real emergency.When you put your legal meds in one of those Sun-Mon containers you better hope their all non narcotic because you may be charged with a felony. No one wants to see teens on drugs. I personaly have a teen that goes to Parker and she is not on drugs. And frankly i'm appalled that my daughter had to see this happen. Hitler almost won the war with these kind of scare tatics.

I think its great they're trying to get drugs out of school to create a better environment.
However, I'm willing the bet a majority of the kids busted will get just a slap on the wrist. I have seen on more than one occasion, kids getting busted but then being allowed back at school due to several factors including being labeled as "ld"

Let's keep going down this same path because we are winning the war on drugs right?

justsaynotomath....wow, you paint with a pretty broad brush there.
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I imagine such broad generalities could be applied to some of your beliefs also. Would that be fair?
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If you are not speaking in generalities, then please give us some specifics.
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Or is name calling your forte'?

fbcoach66...you chastised alleycat for inaccurate information, and you stated..."Don't let what your child heard as rumors lead you to believe that your child was lied to. And yes, all the cars in the lot where searched no matter who they belonged to."
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Just wondering if you read Thursdays print version of the Gazette?
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"Schulte said staff parking lots were not searched."
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Further..."Police dogs sniffing for drugs Wednesday "hit" on 11 cars in searches of the student parking lot at Parker High School and a search of ONE of the TWO student lots at Craig High School" (caps. mine).
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So...care to clarify your information? Or ease up on you criticism?
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Just wondering.

Lockdowns should be done twice a month on different days cars / clothing / lockers
just keeping the schools safe.

btw anyone know for sure what the results of the search were yet?? other than stuff they 'heard' i mean. has there been any info from the police or schools on arrests or anything??

they search kids for alcohol?? thats new to me. of course they bust kids for alcohol, you dont have to tell me ive felt the cuffs;), they dont search for it tho. and im confused by your last statement...cuz in THIS article the drug-dog didnt enter the building and searched the 'parking lot'. what do you think they were searching in the parking lot?? garbage cans?? duh...theyre searching the cars. and if they have a rite to take dogs around smelling for drugs then why wouldnt they have a rite to ask a student to open his trunk at a football game to look for beer?? they would be on public grounds yes?? its the SAME search.
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ive never said i was against these searches. im all for personal freedom but public property, especially schools is a touchy subject. i can see logic to both sides of the debate so im sorta switzerland. what my point is, is if yer gonna waste a taxpayers dollar to find some 'drugs' then lets spend the SAME amount AT LEAST on searching for alcohol since thats the most consumed illegal drug and the biggest killer among teens...and...well...everyone for that matter...

Of course you're going to agree with him Kid. Are you guys listening to yourselves? Search their cars? If they had probable cause, they could do that. They are searching a school which is public. Little bit of a difference. And they do bust kids all the time for alcohol. They did when we were in school and they do it now so what is the difference?

im with ya sannio:) if the police dept has enough moola in the budget for random searches...how about we also search 'students' cars for alcohol on fri nite after a game?? or after prom?? or maybe at school??, as the story of the 4 teens shows it happens in school hours too. if yer worried about your kids 'safety' that will have waaaaay more of a direct impact than busting a few kids with some 'drugs'.

Being in school, and having the place searched for drugs, is the farthest thing from being in shackles. I remember in college, them locking the doors on the bars "lock-ins" and carding everyone. They would bust a ton of people for under-age drinking. Everyone that was of age, sat back and watched and said, stinks to be them. Similar of how students in high-school should react if someone gets busted for drugs during a search. That's the choice you make. If you're a student that has done nothing wrong, they're not locking you in there to punish you, there locking everyone in there to weed out the ones that maybe have. How else are they going to do it?

Ah yes, the "if drugs were legal", we wouldn't have problems angle. This is always one of my favorites.

Maybe I should join the Toastermasters club, or something, because I obviously can't get my point across to some people. Yes, there is a drug problem in schools today, more so than when I went to school. Has greater police presence ever helped? Do the millions of cameras in London reduce crime? The answer to both is "no". If you're a student that has done nothing wrong, why are you physically locked in a room? What kind of message does that send to kids? We should be finding out why drugs are a greater problem now, and attack it from that angle. It's my opinion that the war on drugs has caused far far more pain and suffering than the drugs would have caused had they never been illegal. No, you shouldn't use drugs, especially when you're young, but why do kids still do drugs then? Could it be because they see no future in their lives? Doing drugs is a symptom of a much greater problem. History has shown over and over that countries can't prosper if they have their citizens in shackles. Of course, if you've done nothing wrong, then you shouldn't mind being in shackles as long as everyone else is, right?

All ** Unless you have gone through having your kid almost OD and seeing and understanding the drug use - game, you have no idea. As a parent that went through this with my kid, I can tell you all, that with the economy the way it is and both parents working its is going on in all schools and areas. Even the small rural areas. But not just the kids, also the teachers are using this day. Since we are leaving our kids with these teachers every day, let hold all educational people accountable and do random drug test for all. As a frustrated father that went through this I'm tired of hearing the schools or teachers saying there is nothing they can do or the parent is responsible. When these schools say they are mentoring our kids, that means in all ways, it don't just start at home, but should also start at school, and all areas of education. I would take on anyone that disagree's on this in a debate including senators, presdent, etc.. These kids need help!!

Sannio - we didn't have drug searches when I was in school either because we didn't have HALF the problems that exist in school today. I guarantee you, when you were in school, the same types and amount of drugs weren't there. Unless you just graduated. Wake up. Times are a changing and if these problems didn't exist, these types of situations wouldn't have to occur. Are you really that blind as to what is going on in todays society and schools? Everyone has choices and if you chose to make poor ones, then deal with the consequences. That's not being told what to say or do, that's called using your head.

sannio: Just how badly to you think the kids were treated. The weren't allowed to leave so that if the dogs found something the kid could be located. Why is that so terrible?

Drugs are illegal and if doing searches like this removes some the drugs from society, then great.

This is not an errosion of our rights. You people are high! Just like spark said, if you don't have anything to hide what's the problem?

It was a simple search for drugs!!! Why must all of you see more into it than that. I guess there are a lot more nutjobs in Janesville than I thought. Go on with your conspiracies and theories that the government is out to steal our freedom. Move to another country if it is so bad here. If you feel your rights are deriorating that much then move! The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

spark - I love your sarcasm about my post. It's very sad that most people cannot understand that this is the incremental erosion of our rights that the founding fathers warned about. We didn't have drug searches when I was in school, yet we survived. The more the government violates our rights as humans, the more we will act out in perverse, and unexpected ways. We are becoming like the countries our ancestors risked all to leave in search of a place where they may live their lives as they see fit. Apparently, you like being forced what to do, what to say, and how to act.

woodsman how can you fear were sliding into communism and then say the police should go 'house to house' searching?? thats what communist will do...regardless of your opinions on 'drugs' or how bad you want them out of your town that is just NOT what happens in democracy. you cant fear communism and then ENCOURAGE it...

sannio - Great advice to give to kids. Another intelligent post. How is searching a school for illegal drugs treating a kid poorly?

bkrkim-your true intelligence just came out with that post. Wow. Time for an education.

So this is how we treat kids today? I urge every student to drop out of school immediately, and get your GED.

Did they check to see if kids had home work too...Stupid cops the druggie kids are at someones home while the parents are at work. doing what the cops wish they were doing smoking dope and eating donuts. Duh.

Some of these posts kill me. If you aren't doing anything against the law, what do you have to worry about? If you have nothing to hide? If you have illegal drugs in school or anywhere, you risk the chance of getting caught. It's not your given right to break the law. Getting the drugs out of schools is far from a bad thing. Saying things like no one is protecting our children from police intrusion is absolutely ridiculous. What do you think keeping drugs away from children is doing? Are you kidding me? Who's side are you on!

THEKID:I am against communism,but i'm afraid i have no say in what government is going to do,kinda a private club,and were just pawns. Just think through your life,how many rights have been under fire from the government? (I PLEADGE ALEGENCE TO THE FLAG)FOR ONE.

Hello Police State. Citizens have to learn early that they have no rights. Then they can remain docile as the state continues to deprive them of their basic American rights. Do not underestimate the financial profit in all this. As crime drops, the police need to find new crime (statistics). Where else better than the schools where they have a captive audience? No one is protecting our children from police intrusion.

I asked my son he said lock down was at third hour at Craig and there were no dogs! He heard a 12th grade girl was arrested.

woodsman: you believe that 'this country turning more into a communist country' and then you say 'police need to step it up & get these drugs out of my town' and that they should 'Start at one end of town,house to house'. so i guess im just confused...are you for or against communism??

This may be a good idea. As long as they check all parking lots including school staff. We heard about the Milton incident, why is it all quite now. I believe all the schools staff should be checked at that school. Also I have been hearing from various kids that there is a racial problem not just between kids but with staff. My friends son over heard a teacher or staff member make the statement at Milton that a parents son should maybe look at a more diversified school because of racial remarks made to him. There is something very wrong with this, and I have already made some contacts within the state to look into it.
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The random searches are a great idea and quite honestly I wish they would more of them. So what if it costs the taxpayers a little money. Your money gets wasted on a lot worse things. This could potentially save someone that may be going down the wrong road!

I also agree with the person who stated children don't have rights. They have certain rights, like to be clothed, fed, sheltered and treated fairly but as of late kids seem to be getting more bold and often dumb. Why not try and keep our schools clean? It is a small price to pay for everyones safety.

This isn't about communism or facism. If you think that you are probably one of those freaks who has a conspiracy theory for everything and that the government is evil and his coming to get you. Here is a little reality for you people, things have changed since you were in school. There are more drugs that are much more dangerous and more readily available than when most of us grew up. Keeping them out of a place they don't belong should be a priority, if it's not then maybe you have some issues to deal with.

Get over your prescious tax dollars, you are going to pay them and more as that is a reality and will not change.

These searches rarely uncover any thing and cost taxpayers money. Both cops and teachers/students have better things to do. To quote Shakespere... "full of sound and fury; signifying nothing." Or is it furry :)

I graduated from Craig in '01 and I'm pretty sure they used to do locker searches with dogs every once in awhile; this is not a new thing...I don't even think this a new thing with the parking lot. There just wasn't a blog for it then. If you don't want them to find it don't bring it to school...HELLO!!! This isn't about civil liberties its about common sense. They are public schools and public property.

If any of you know me through my blogs,they know what i have said about this country turning more into a communist country. Our freedom is slowly disappearing,just the opposite of what this country stands for,and this government is always trying to push our values on other countries.lol! I'm for what they did in the schools,but it is sad that our town has come to this.The police need to step it up & get these drugs out of my town,they know who the dealers are,and what parts of town they live in. Start at one end of town,house to house,but bring a lot of patty wagons,their going to need them! But i guess it's against the law to do that.

i think its good they have the searches. I think they should have searched the school to with the dogs. I trust my kids only so much . I don't believe in kids having rights when they are adults and out of my house .Other wise I'm boss

Alleycat as a teacher at Craig I was on hall duty during the lockdown and there were NO dogs in the building. At the end of the lock down Dr. Kuehne announced that the lock down was done in concert with a search of the parking lots by drug dogs. At no time did anyone in authority say there were dogs in the school. Don't let what your child heard as rumors lead you to believe that your child was lied to. And yes, all the cars in the lot where searched no matter who they belonged to.

angry_again: Your rant was pointless. Juvaniles do not have rights.

Ditto on the alcohol abuse comment with middle and high school kids. The one element my daughters faced here in Milton, was the easy access to Mom & Dad's booze. It was easy to skim some out of the bottle and pour it in a soda or water bottle.

Of course there was pot and other drugs available, but booze was easy to get.

angry_again I think its a grand idea ,how about once a week lockdown ..ya that sounds good ..

And people wonder why parents want an alternative to public schools.

One step closer to fascism everyday.
I agree school is no place for drugs, and those caught with drugs on school property should be punished. But random drug dog inspections at schools? What happened to trusting our children until they do something to deserve being searched? What’s next?, random urine tests for every student or citizen?
Why not just march the dogs down every street in Janesville, and sniff every car and property and workplace?
Maybe then people will realize there is something wrong going on with these kinds of inspections.
Remember from history what happens when citizens loose all their rights and privacy and a government has free reign to do as they please without any specific reason. (Like the Nazi's did)
I hope they found nothing; otherwise they will justify doing this kind of invasive practices more. Not that it will stop now even if nothing is found. They have already taken the steps to NOT need a reason to search students or their property. The saddest part is all of you seem to support this crap... I'm surprised to see very few complaints. Especially on this forum.
Every time we give up our rights to feel more secure, they are never given back.. Ever..
We all just lose more and more of our freedom and rights.
Our founding fathers are weeping in their graves.

As a student at Craig, I didn't see any dogs in the halls as I was escorted to the bathroom either. I don't understand how they searched for drugs if dogs weren't even brought into school. Maybe they selected certain students to search?

i wonder if those dogs could sniff alcohol in the trunks of a car?? or if the dogs were inside if they could smell a bottle of whiskey in a kids locker?? in case yall havent noticed thats the most used illegal drug by teens...oh, and the biggest KILLER...

I am a student at craig and i came to school during the middle of third hour which is when the lockdown took place and i had to get escorted to my locker and back to my classroom and i personally did not see any dogs in the hallways of either of the two out of three major hallways i was in. and from what i had heard there had been at least three findings at craig. i do not know anything about parker

Typically the dogs DO enter the school to search lockers. It would be odd to do a lockdown if the search was not in the buidling. The Gazette get it wrong? Wow. That'd be a first. ;)

the lockdown at Parker had nothing to do with the bomb threat. They were planning the lockdown long before the kid wrote the bomb threat. Remember, lockdowns have to be conducted at each of the high schools.

Ah yes, a little Breakfast Club. Mikki started that one. All time classic!!

I think they should have walked the dogs down the lockered halls as well. Then it would have been a little bit closer to making sure drugs are not in the school or on the school grounds. I suppose that I would hate being a student IF there was a reason to protest these dogs walking by my locker or car.

This isnt a soft issue. Drugs dont belong on school grounds. Whatever non-invasive means that are needed to make sure of this works for me. If you are stupid enough to bring drugs to school, then you are smart enough to do the time.

Spark,
Does Barry Manilow know you raid his wardrobe?
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I would only hate being a kid these days if I was one of those kids making some real bad choices that perhaps a dog might find.

This is odd, my son attends Craig and said that the dogs were in the school. Not that it makes any difference other than the story or the information from the district is not accurate. Or they lied to the kids.

I would hate to be a kid these days.

They do this so the kids can't get into the parking lot while the dogs are searching. Plus if a kid has drugs in their car then they can find them in their classroom easier! Wonder how much they found?!?!?!

Did Barry Manilow raid your wardrobe?

What, like when that teacher caused a ruckus?

"Could you describe the ruckus, sir?"

were theA 15-YEAR-OLD JANESVILLE BOY, at 12:10 p.m. Tuesday at Parker High School was referred to juvenile authorities on a charge of bomb scare. A threat written on a table was reported to school officials Tuesday. Officials called police to investigate. The threat was not deemed serious enough for an evacuation. The arrest occurred within an hour of police being called, said Karen Schulte, district director of student services.
y in lock down for drugs or because of what happened on tuesday?

or teacher's parking lot!!

LOL!!!

Don't forget the teacher's lounge!!