etown,
Thank you. That was exactly my point. The school system should deal with some of this stuff in the school system. What happened to Saturday detention? And what is the point of OSS? In my opinion, you are rewarding the kids by giving them a few days off school! Most of these kids are left home alone because parent/parents are at work during the day. So, the kid sits home, sleeps in late, watches tv and plays video games. Yeah, thats punishment. As a parent who is lucky enough to stay home, when my child had OSS, the day was spent washing walls and cleaning after I made sure work that was missing was made up. No fun time here. But, that is not the case for most of the kids.
And who is it punishing when it is the parent who has to pay for an attorney and cost costs? I am involved in my childs school and try to back them as much as possible but these kids that are mearly testing the boundries don't belong in the court system!
Kids who fight, bring drugs, weapons, etc., belong in the court system. Not some poor girl who in a emotionally break down yells something inappropriate or swears. Disorderly conduct charges in that situation is just plain stupid!

trish , you are right alot of charges on a young person record now comes from the school system, rather then deal with the problem they just shove it off into the court system , and if that dont work then we send them to our school for all the bad kids and let them have half days , and alot of free time. so anyone who doesnt want to be in school just act out and we will take the pressure off. no wonder so many more kids are in trouble

I agree disorderly is a confusing charge for me too. I have found, in the school system, you can be charged for disorderly for a vast extreme of behaviors. One child that suffers from emotional shut downs(school definition:refusal to respond/disrespectful) can be "arrested" for disorderly, another child will get disorderly for getting into an all out fist fight in which the teachers/police also get hit while trying to break it up. Another child has a break down and yells at the teacher, "I don't care" in a flurry of emotion, disorderly. A child can be "arrested" for disorderly on such a wide range of behaviors, I put little stock in that charge.
The other charges, theft, child neglect, etc. are something else.

hannah just because someone might have a record doesnt mean theyre bad people yeah jamie has 3 disorderly conducts, you know that you can get a disorderly conduct for yelling at someone right? good people make the wrong decisions everyday, and the 3 ppl riding in the car dont have an influence on the actual drivers decisions im sure if jaime was driving none of this wouldve happen in the first place

much lol

etown yes it is you now do you feel better.

ihavealife now is it still me ?

Okay... Time for my two cents....


First off... before I get my head bit off because "everyone drinks" I DON'T!

These "children" decided to put people's lives at risk by drinking and driving. That should be viewed as attempted homicide. These little brats got drunk and went for a joy ride... And could have killed a whole lot of people, but didn't. They are lucky. BUT THEIR LUCK WILL RUN OUT! If they get away with this, it will happen again, and who knows how many people will suffer when they crash into.... A mini van? Or even a small car?

I have said it before and I will say it again... If you drink and drive, you need to be punished. Nobody deserves to lose someone the love because a bunch of little brats decided to "have a good time".

And to all the little teenagers who "know these kids well". Then maybe you need to tell them what idiots they are.

I agree and disagree with most on this blog.Ok,the girls have a record,but they are young enough society should not throw them away.Everyone has been young and dumb at one point.Were you thrown away? As far as ccap,that is a double edged sword.Knowing someones past can be good if he/she is caring for a family member,borrowing money or renting an apt. However,I STRONGLY disagree with checking it on someone just because you feel like it. It is rude.Trust can never be built between 2 people when it isnt there from the begining and it can seriously hurt a friendship.(yes,I speak from experience).It is also very embarrassing.Im not the person I was some years ago,so why check my history if you are a potential friend? Doesnt sound very friendly to me!! Ccap should not be made public to just anyone!

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Correction as to (if i am innocent then the charges should not be removed from this site) meant to say should be renoved!!!

One other thing is in ccap read the whole file as charges that are dismissed are still there which I think if your not guilty should be renoved!!!!!!!! I had charges because of my name used by another and the are still there If you were to look me up most things against me are dismissed but the public see the amount of charges and i look like a real crimial. If I am innocent then the charges should not be removed from this site. and I have had to prove my innocence more then once. NOT PLEA BARGAINS OR READ INTO RECORD "DISMISSED" cases!!!!! And I am not the only one. I do have some cases that I am responsible for and I have made changes in my life so I dont get anymore!!!

Sad situation here. The kids may have a record but one was hurt pretty serious and yes kids do stupid things and now the young girl (18) will have a serious record. I know 3 of the 4 and they party alot. Now maybe they will wake up (I HOPE) and all the other kids they hang with will see this and think twice before partying. As to the under age drinking 17 no 18 maybe as I think as someone else stated If you can serve your country you should be able to have an option to drink or not. Another thing are all the people that post non drinkers? did you ever have a drink before you were 21? I know I did and drinking age was 18 when i did and i went to many parties when I was a teen. I now longer drink as "I grew up." I know that everyone who posts in here is not perfect and a few have gotten behind the wheel a car after having a drink or "2"
and most likely a few drank under age. IMO IMO

ihavealife, i read in one of your post you said if your gonna quote me ,get it right, where did i say i dont check on renter s i said i dont use ccap to do so, when asked about sex offenders living next door , i said there is a sex offender website, what i said was when suggested i should look up family friends and neighbors on ccap was i had no interest into snooping into their lives, and that i think its unfair wisconsin has this online when most states dont, if you go to the story on father accused of son still critical hannah was also over there trying to egg me into an argument , i never commented her back,so maybe you should be scolding your friend

and for the record i have never commented on anyones spelling or grammar, check my posts

ihavealife i didnt respond to hannah i was responding to someone else , so put the blame where it belongs ,

ok HANNAH i dont care about the dumb driver the passenger was a very good friend of mine and he doesnt need ppl like you judging him because of what you read and ill call anyone a loser anytime i want, you must have some mental issues to be that nosey, did you know wisconsin is ranked number one in underage drinking and i never said "hannah" in the first place how did you get in the convo another thing ppl like you need to mind their own business

This is just sick. I am sooooooo tired of reading about underage drunken drivers out there. Need to lock them all up!

My son is friends with all these kids and all I can say is THANK GOD he was not with them!!! People should not be so shocked that they were drunk at 3:30 in the afternoon. I had a drunk 26 year old rear end me at 8:00 in the morning a few months ago. Three times the legal limit!!They are out there folks BEWARE...

thats great but those werent the people we were talking about

and by the way their birthdays match up so I think it's safe to assume they are the same people.

afer hannah looked you up she wouldnt want you for a neighbor lol

Whatever, between the 4 of them they have:

Robbery
Retail Theft
Neglect to a child
2 Thefts of movable property
4 Disorderly Conducts
Several underage drinking

Maybe I have some time to unwind after working all day and after reading the comments I got curious and looked them up myself. I think reading what I read about the four of them tells a lot about their character. Big Losers!
It's embarrasing to have your name appear on CCAP (mine is on there for 2 judgements against me for my loser ex-husband, 1 traffic ticket-no sticker on my plates, divorce, and one for hitting my loser ex-husband after he hit me first). But it looks as though at 18 these kids already are on the path to no good.

or you might be reporting on the wrong person, see my point , because there is questionable stuff on there , but is it these people, who knows and you know what i really could care less thats why there shouldnt be access to this

just to add to hannahs comment of 'And look how many CANNOT handle alcohol at under 21'...look at how many CANNOT handle alcohol OVER 21...

No need for much concern here. It was a 1 car accident and no one died. There will be plea bargains for all with fines and suspended sentences distributed accordingly after a thorough tongue lashing from our D.A. and perhaps a judge. Then these youngsters will be back on the roads soon in a neighborhood near you after having learned their lessons taught so well by our efficient and cost-conscious criminal justice system.

no, why would i have something to hide hannah suggested maybe i should be looking up all my neighbors friends , and family i dont agree with her

then let me ask you this how do you know you have the right person, i just looked there are several under those names , do you know every address they lived at and their age, how do you know when your reporting on the right person or someone else

etown do you have something too hide ??????????

any judgement in court is reported

did i put your name in there? or are you just assuming i was talking about you ?

who said i was looking down on her, i just asked did you look them up , you said you look up everyone , i never said anything they were doing was bad , other then the neighbor had right s to , and i really dont believe you looked them but are more or less covering your self

sound s like you live in a parniod little world

evictions are done through the courts system with a money judgement so yes they do show

did i ask you if you did? but do you do the same for every story or do you pick and choose, did you look up the people you were preaching so highly of the other day , you have completely missed my point, when it becomes fair and every state can be logged on to and every person can be looked up by the click of a mouse , then i will support this right now its unfair that some you can and some you cant,small town courts dont report to this either, the only reason any one would go look and then come back and report in a blog is to cause the person in the story more harm ,so much for the act of kindness from the gazette readers

what happened to all the kindness you were talking about on another blog, the helping people? what you think people cant make mistakes and then learn from them , i dont feel the need to know everyone elses dirty laundry or problems, so no i will not look up my neighbors and friends, whats important to me is how they treat me and the life they live that im involved in, its my choice whether to allow somone s problems to affect my life , and i dont need the ccap to check on renter s thats what they have credit checks for , it tells you alot more then you will learn on ccap.the best part is you have their permission to look so your just not snooping and in some cases what s on ccap is illegal to use against people ,but for you to sit on one blog and preach kindness and get along with your neighbors, overlook how they are interrupting your life its a good cause, and then say its ok to spy on your neighbors through the court system , is double talk,

wow im surprised they removed yaboys comments they werent that bad, and i have to agree that anyone who goes on ccap and look people up they dont have a reason to, need more in their lives to do , and my guess is if they had to take their butt off from in front of their computer and go to the court house to look it up they would be to lazy to do so, they have probably also looked up all their neighbors ,friends ,family and their children, the only way this will be fair is if every state puts all their info on the internet so everyone can be looked up , until then wisconsin needs to restrict access to this site, and dont worry about the other comment s yaboy shes a serial blogger without a life,

hannah, if we are serious about saving lives on the road we would have mandatory driving classes throught our lives. Then we would make anyone over 65 y.o. take a driving test every 5 years or less. Older people, probably, cause more accidents yet they are unaware they have because they only see 5-12' in front of their car (this was a fact at one time). I write this realizing this would be approaching quickly for me but believe it would make the roads safer for everyone and a hassle for my kids to drive me around.

This is an unfortunate accident but, I am still of belief that; if you can serve your Country at 18 the drinking age should be 18. Oh well, we have nice roads.

This is very sad. If there is not some serious intervention in these kids lives, they will be having a more permanent address out at the corner of Hwys 14 and 51. Anything from theft, to underage drinking to disorderly conduct. I sure hope that they can get the help that they ALL need to find their way back on the path of good choices and responsible living. I can only hope that this accident may have been a serious wakeup call for all of them.

I drove through there shortly after it happened and I know a few other of my co-workers did as well. I hope these kids feel lucky. That is a very high time in that area for "school buses" dropping off children. Im glad they didnt hurt any of those kids. Push the entire book at them. They are old enough to know better!!!!!

To drink you must have it, where did they get it from?!

tjncj: Really nice basefall analogy!
So sad that it has to apply to teenage drinking and driving.

Wow, all four of them are CCAP winners! Well at least they won't have trouble enforcing that arrest warrant.

Come on editor, do your job!!! I am going to see if you catch it. (I have a bet with my wife.)

Yes, I believe she may have "hit for the cycle" with charges that should include OWI and causing bodily injury while driving intoxicated.

Quite the record on ccap in just the last few months.....and only 18.

i and another gentleman was right there when it happened i held the girls head until the police got there it was an awful feeling beings i have an 18 year old daughter. the gentleman that was there had called 911 before it happened and seen it happen and then waited there for them to come he was talking to all the kids.i hope they really dont let them off i was reading online there is alot a underage drinking going on and they need to crack down on it

I drove through that area about 5 mins before that happened. Guess luck was on my side

3:30 in the afternoon and they had been drinking!?!?! Oh but I'm sure they are good kids who just made a little mistake. They are darn lucky they didn't kill themselves or an innocent school child walking home from school. Let's just slap their little wrists and send them on their way. I wonder how many more times we will see their names in the paper for drunk driving.