just shoot him in the head and be done with it.

Billnewbie: thank you for your post and I completely understand what you are saying about the definition. There are many different reasons why people kill and yes the law needs to be tailored to fit the crime. As for my attackers, they were family or family friends. Can't really do away with them.
I again apologize if I stepped on anyone's toes, I never meant to belittle what our men and women and people's children are doing over in the war.

ashlea1099, You are right, there are many reasons why people kill. But I think where I disagree is in your definition of murder. Not all who kill are murderers. For instance, if someone had intervened when you were attacked (I wish someone had) and killed your attacker, we would call that person a hero not murderer.
Even among murderers there are degrees of severity. If a person walks in on a spouse having a tryst with another and kills one or both in a fit of rage, while that is murder it is not on the same level as one who stalks a prey, plans an attack and kills another for the sport of it.
The punishment should be tailored to fit the crime, with capital punishment available in the choice of punishments.

As I had stated before, look at my previous post. I was just pointing out that there are many reasons why people kill. Not everything is as cut and dried as it sometimes seems. It is just like when you have kids in school and they get reprimanded and you only hear one side of the story. You are furious with what you are told, but then you get the other side and then you are a bit more clued in into what really happened. I apologize for the harshness of my comment before, I have family over in the war and I mean no disrespect. I am also a victim of rape and abuse, therefore I was just pointing out the people do reactions to actions that are done unto them or their loved ones. Again I mean no disrespect and I apologize if I stepped on anyone's toes or hrut anyone's feelings.

A35, I totally agree!

Ashlea, Justifiable homicide (killing by a soldier, justifiable self defense) is not murder, it is killing. Would you sing the same tune if this "person" had killed your child, your father, your sibling?

To those who say we should just imprison the murderer for life, are you going to pay for them to eat, get kidney transplants, file frivolous law suits, watch cable tv, and lift weights? I sure don't want to. Once these animals are in the prison system they continue to assault and kill guards and other inmates. If they are ever released the recividism rate is over 60% for violent criminals (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/reentry/rec...)

This nations justice system needs an overhaul, and not to make it more lenient.

The guy that raped and killed the photographer Theresa Halbach, is there any justifiable reason that my tax dollars should pay for his upkeep? http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/seria...

I just don't know what to say to those that value the lives of murderers and rapists more than those of their potential victims.

These animals have already shown that they will never contribute to society, that they place no value on the lives and rights of others, and that they will continue to rape and kill as long as they draw breath. Unless we as a society take a stand and start punishing them in line with the severity of their crimes, the behavior will never change.

The UK has moved more and more away from a strict system of justice and punishment and we can see what lies down that road in their skyrocketing rates of violent crime, including murder, assault and rape.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...
Read the comments and you see that the citizens there are becoming fed up with these sociopathic animals.

I wonder how much longer western societies will continue to coddle these violent offenders. I hope it is not much longer.

No I'm not saying any of that and I don't remotely classify those same situations with this story. I will never compare someone that is fighting for our freedom with someone that takes a police officers life. Sorry.

I know that I will be getting grief for saying this, but if anyone who commits murder is scum, then you are also saying that everyone who is fighting for our freedom is scum (huge elephant in the room). This is not to say that I am anti-american either, just giving examples. You are also saying that the wife/huband/child who is abused and finally does away with their attacker is scum. Now don't get me wrong, I agree with you that the guy should not have been in a medium facility.(please refer to my previous post)I think that for us to say that everyone who commits murder is scum therefore they deserve the death penalty, I think that that is a very generalized statement and needs to be curbed with special circumstances. I am able to take the critisisms that this comment will bring, but I am just stating that special circumstances need to be taking into consideration when talking about murder. Not everything is as cut and dried as it seems sometimes.

I would classify someone who commits murder, scum. Pretty simple.

The deterrent of the death penalty would have worked in this situation. If he had been put to death this attack on the correctional officers would not have ever happened.

Good idea Hothands :)

and while you're at it, tell me, who decides, who's scum and who's not, what;s the criteria, income, race, birthplace, gender, lets not go overboard, this guy should have been locked up alone and left to think about what he did for a very long time, not released ever..never put back into any population, prison or whatever...

you can't have the death penalty unless you can find a way to make sure no innocent person is put to death by mistake, and it happens, people do get wrongfully convicted..

AMEN AND HALLELUJAH!

If you use the bible it is eye for an eye!!!!!!

If he killed 2 police officers what in the h--- was he doing in a medium facility? He should be in maximum on 23 hours lock down.....

Well I apologize if my wording was confusing. I agree with religion, but I'm certainly not going to use the bible as a reason why I feel the scum of the Earth should be eliminated from society permanently.

there are currently no interesting marijuana discussions going on anywhere. i think its the calm before the legalization storm:) i am all for the death penalty for murderers, rapists, or pretty much anyone that lays a harmful hand on a child. i was simply pointing out that your statement implys there is no reality or common sense in religion. which is actually TWO points i agree with you on;) but thats a whole nother thread all togetha...

Kid - go back to discussing what you know best...Marijuana.
Also, read some other posts below and you will understand more about what those agree with capital punishment are talking about.

i like sparks comment 'all the religion needs to be put aside and a little bit of reality and common sense takes over'...doesnt that imply that there is no reality and common sense involved with religion:) lol sry back to my research...

Too bad we can’t just “snip” some of these guys like we do with male dogs that are overly aggressive.

billnewbie - That was beyond well said.

Sannio, the bible also says “Whoever takes a human life shall surely be put to death.”
That commandment you quote has always been accepted as a prohibition of murder, in fact many modern translations now use the word murder instead of kill. It does not include killing another in defense of oneself or another, nor does it include killing by accident. It never was taken as a prohibition of capital punishment administered by the government as the bible clearly establishes government’s role as law enforcer.
By the way, the number #1 rule of the Ten Commandments is “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”

The criminal justice system has 2 primary purposes, deterrence and justice. Crimes of passion are often unaffected by deterrence. Extreme reprobates such as Mr. Davis are also unmoved by the law’s deterring effect, incarcerated or not. So what to do with one such as Davis? He is in for life without parole, no doubt, yet his murderous ways continue. The fact that those 2 guards are not dead is probably a source of disappointment for Davis. The next time he is so inclined, the guard or fellow inmate that raises his ire may well be executed, a perverse effect of our reluctance to so dispatch Davis since he has no respect for the deterring effect of the law. Do we lock him down in a cell until he dies passing him food through access ports through the walls, isolating him from all human contact since he has demonstrated no respect thereof? If not then expect Davis’ name to pop up in a news item in the future.
It never ceases to amaze me that so many of us are willing to allow such as Davis to live out his life in prison either subjected to inhuman conditions such as solitary confinement or as predators and prey within a population of like minded and undeterred reprobates rather than offend our own sensibilities by instituting capital punishment.

Exactly. Overcrowding. Good behavior? Oh good boy, you killed two police officers and now that you've been so good, we'll give you the break you don't deserve. Who's side are you people on anyways? I will never understand that view of things.

It's a foregone conclusion that he will now be moved to a maximum-security facility. I would guess he was placed in this medium-security facility either due to good behavior credits, or simply overcrowding, and they made a bad judgement.
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Wisconsin has the longest history of no executions in the United States, and our crime rate is actually lower than average. The death penalty is not really an effective deterrent, and only serves to satisfy public sentiment and further ingrain violence as a solution to problems in our society.

Why prisoners work? 1. Become of use to society (making furniture for state agencies),
2. Busy people are easier to supervise, 3. Earn minimal money to buy toothpaste, deodorant, etc.
Why educate prisoners? 1. Keep them busy, 2. Help them gain minimal skills to be more employable(many getting GED) 3. Increase chance they won't go back to prison. Prison isn't community college or a health spa. It is Prison. Things that make prisoners easier to supervise, useful to society, and reduce chance to be repeat offenders all benefit society, and reduce the cost to taxpayers to incarcerate them. There are always a few who try to take advantage, but that is everywhere.

sannio says: Who are we to judge if a person should be put to death? What is the #1 rule of the Christian Ten Commandments? How does a Christian reconcile killing a person who is caged like an animal? Revenge?

Thou Shalt Not Kill is singular, referring to an individual,,,, if you take a life, the government in charge at that time has the right to take your life,,, read and study the Bible a bit more before you post your liberal pap.

When growing up, you have a couple of important choices to make that set the mold for your life.

Choice 1: Do I take the path of trying to make something of myself and become a decent person?

Choice 2: Do I take the path of crime and become a burden and disgrace to society?

If you choose choice 1, good for you and welcome to whatever you make of yourself and the great things that come with it.
If yo choose choice 2, shame on you. Suffer the consequences and don't expect equal rights for being stupid. And keep religion out of this!

I agree with ashlea, why do our tax dollars fund their education, their getting in shape and cable tv??? This doesn't seem like a logical thing! OH YEAH! we are talking about our government here! Wake up people and smell the coffee! this is outrageous and what can we do about it?? They have more rights than we do!

sannio - are you kidding me? You have to be. By the way, I'm a Christian. Call it revenge, call it what you want. The scum like this never had a care in the World when he took decent peoples lives. There comes a point when all the religion needs to be put aside and a little bit of reality and common sense takes over.

Who are we to judge if a person should be put to death? What is the #1 rule of the Christian Ten Commandments? How does a Christian reconcile killing a person who is caged like an animal? Revenge?

Good point. Jail really isn't jail these days. As far as I'm concerned, you lost your rights when you committed the crime that put you there.

Ok a lot of you say dealth penalty, but does no one else see another flaw in this story? How about he had the weapon at his disposal in the furniture shop! WHAT THE......come on! Seriously! Why do they have a furniture shop with weapons at the violent criminal's disposal?! Is that not just like asking for trouble?!! Just my two cents and my keen observation of the article. Come on people! We have running tracks in the jails, so that when the criminals escape, the cops can't catch them bc the criminals are in better shape than the officers, then we let them get an education and degrees that sometimes turn around and bite us in the ass, and then of course we have the work shops in jails where there are weapons that hurt the people who are trying to protect. I may not be as old or as wise as most of you or some of you who post on here, but I have just made some blantant observations and we are screwed. When did jail become a school, workshop, gym, and college free of charge (or almost) for our troubled citizens? Hello! This is common sense knocking and he brought with him captain obvious, with his girlfriend give me a break, open up....

I agree. Off the f'ers. Start shuffling them in like Texas.

Two words - death penalty. Unfortunately we don't have it. Especially for scum like this. You kill a police officer, it should be an automatic.

Because we don't have the death penalty, and even if we did, he is more likely to die of natural causes than be executed. Our society is entirely too accommodating of the sociopathic animals in our midst.

And why is he in a medium security facility after killing to policeman?