So what if they donate money!! I donate money and I still have to pay my taxes. Doesn't mean they shouldn't pay what they said they would play. Doyle is so deep in the Ho-chunks pockets that he wouldn't do anything to them if he wants any campaign money for his re-election bid.

Maybe people should get an understanding to history...the Ho-Chunk Nation is always donating money to surrounding communities as well as other charities...so if you all think that the money made from the businesses that the Ho-Chunk Nation own only goes back into the tribe do some research and realize that the tribe helps out whenever it is needed. Anytime there has been a disaster the Ho-Chunk Nation gave out money to help out. You dont want to go to the casino dont go, nobody is making you..go to Vegas.

If the 2003 agreement is not valid, then anything agreed to in the agreement should also not be allowed. They should stop any illegal procedures or the fed. gov. should step in and take legal action that they have the right to do.

A similar situation in Florida, http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080703/ap_o...

Doyle isn't going to bite the hand that feeds him. The indians haven't lived up to their end of the bargain. Pretty simple. Shut them down.

They can't have it both ways. If the compact is not legal, then it's terms are null and void. They are not binding on either side and gambling operations should return to the pre-compact regulations. Expanded game options never existed.

Gambling is illegal in this State but, made legal under the compact and the agreement that the Ho-Chunk nation pay their fair share of taxes. They aren't living up to their end of the deal. So, they should be shut down. Any other business that doesn't pay their taxes doesn't get to operate like the Indians and just be able to continue to run their business. It's a pretty shallow move by the tribe while they are making money hand over fist presently illegally.

No authority to shut them down. When the supreme court ruled Gov. Jim Doyle did not have the authority to sign perpetual casino deals, Ho Chunks attorneys properly concluded, then the contract isn't lawful, thus not binding on us, so we aren't living up to the terms of the contract, take us to court. Fairly straight forward contract law.

If you want to blame someone for the loss of money, you might start with the legislature and those who challenged the governors authority in court. They won and lost the state a bundle.

chad_vader I will agree with you on that just don't go and gamble their.

Yes.

No.

i may seem ignorant here but isnt gambling technically illegal??

Don't worry about the Indians: They got even with us with the casinos and turquois jewelry.

But where else can I go to increase my risk of lung cancer and get run over by little old ladies on scooters?! And miss out on THAT kinda fun?!

Just boycot the Ho Chunk casino. Did they not have the National Guard there at one time to keep people out. Just go to any bar or bowling alley around Janesville and you can gamble all you want,and save gas money for the ride up there. They are really tight and don't pay, but neither does Ho Chunk

The original gaming compact in which they agreed to higher gaming taxes was overturned by the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court ruled Doyle did not have the authority to sign the deal. Once they ruled this, the contract should have been voided and released everyone from their responsibilities.

schulers was irs business as usual. shutting down a business that was trying to pay them and was doing so in good faith, and putting hard working people out of work (and on welfare!) on the other hand, the casino is politics as usual. sounds arrogant of the tribe to do what they are doing, not just illegal.

Why do you think they called it Ho-Chunk. If you go there to gamble, they end up taking a ho' chunk of yo' money! Just stop going there people!

Oh, no! They were only here first!

Pretty soon the native Americans will have as many rights as the illegal aliens.

I agree with armyof3. Finally the native americans are getting on on the white man. Hahaha.

Doesn't the state regulate gaming? I'm pretty sure this is state regulated. Wisconsin has the right to allow or prohibit gambling. Why not implement stricter gambling laws. If you don't pay your taxes, why should you remain open and operating. Further more, if they don't want to pay taxes on the casinos they have, why are they thinking about building another casino??? I know. So they can make more money and not pay taxes on that.

the money the tribe receives is federal, not state... just because they found a loophole in their agreement in '03 makes Doyle mad?? it was their land to begin with... why else would they had the Indian Removal Act of 1830?? it's federally protected land, not state...

And yet Ho-Chunk can now sponsor Badger athletics (as well as the Packers) for hundreds of thousands of dollars to promote their ventures. Take it out of Doyle's salary if they "refuse" to pay.

just make it leagle to gamble in wisconsin and we would not have to woory about the tribe's money we all would have less tax's more money for school's more job's

Why would Doyle close down one of his key contributors?

What some are not realizing is that the land becomes Indian grounds and thus is protected federally. The state is very limited on what they can do and that is why they are unable to just go in and shut it down.

Just like they did to Schulers Furniture store.
Close it up.

just leaglise gambling for the state and have it like nevada so the state would have revinue and then we would not have to worry about ho chunk wake up people give it a thought.

I agree with shutting down the roads, throw the barricades up.....

the same laws that apply to us should apply to them.if it were my business or yours they would have already seized it.they should not be treated special and have their own laws.

Perhaps the road construction idea has it merits but what about all of the other businesses that it would impact. You can't shut down Hwy 12 and think the only business you are going to effect is the casino. Even by simply shutting down a section of it in front of the casino.

eminent domain lets just take it

i really do like the idea of tearing up the access roads and block them in!! that just might get their attention. i still smell a rat.

Shut them down!

I particularly like the part of how they follow the parts of the 2003 agreement that allowed them to expand their gaming operations but reject the part that calls for them to pay for it.

Apparently either the Ho-Chunk Nation is yet another group to learn that Chief Doyle.... er, Governor Doyle speaks with forked tongue; or Doyle is learning that the Ho-Chunk lawyers were taught how to phrase their contracts by studying the Indian Removal Act of 1830: "for as long as the grass was green, as long as the waters flowed, and as long as the sky was blue"

I don’t think the state can do anything to the casinos per se; “the only recourse available to Wisconsin under federal Indian gaming laws”. But, Doyle could borrow a little something out of Mayor Daley’s playbook: in the dead of night, tear up the access roads, put up construction signs, park a couple bulldozers and graders in the middle of the mess, and let it all sit. With no customers and zero revenue the tribe might reconsider their position and settle up.

Just do what they did to that furniture place raid the casinos and take them as possessions until payment is made.

Too bad for them. Pay up! Those Tv ads must have been too expensive. Maybe they can build a casino in Beloit to offset their loses ?

now i know why i don't go there. Could never win anything. and it looks like they are not paying what they owe the state. hmmmmm. i smell a rat.

Lock the doors until payments are made, simple as that!