Deputies plan compliance checks
Rock County sheriff’s deputies and young adults younger than 21 soon will start checking how bartenders and store clerks comply with the state’s drinking laws.
Underage adults will go into businesses and taverns during the next few months to try to buy alcoholic beverages. Deputies will work with the young people, Sheriff Bob Spoden announced in a press release.
Businesses and staff caught selling alcohol to underage buyers will be arrested and referred to the Rock County District Attorney’s Office for prosecution.
The Rock County Sheriff’s Department will issue a press release reporting the results after the checks are done.
“We believe helping area businesses curtail law violations, such as selling alcohol to underage people, will help us to avoid the problems that come with underage drinking,” Spoden said. “Selling alcohol is a legitimate business that plays a valid role in our community, but such a business is a privilege to which very serious and specific responsibilities apply.”
In more than 6,000 such checks in the upper Midwest since 1992, youthful-looking buyers were sold alcohol without being checked for identification about 25 percent to 50 percent of the time, suggesting a serious problem at the retail sales level, according to the press release.

Jan 26, 2008 at 7:46 p.m.
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I don't think they should have been given a 'fair warning' much less should they announce when they're done, for obvious reasons. Doesn't this kind of thing go on all the time only they don't make a press release?
Jan 24, 2008 at 1:10 p.m.
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This is legal.
It's an effective way to control the sale of alcohol to minors. What else will keep the Quickie Mart counterperson honest but the fear of a huge fine to the store and the loss of their job?
Perhaps the only reason it made the papers was to give the store operators and bartenders in the area a fair warning.
Jan 24, 2008 at 12:20 p.m.
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Also, since tobacco (18 Years of age) may also be mentioned in this forum, I will give a couple of definitions that many people may not understand. I'm using caps just to indicate the important terms.
An OFFENDER who is age less than age 17 is considered a JUVENILE.
A VICTIM who is less than age 18, is considered a CHILD.
So, whether we use the word CHILD or JUVENILE tells you automatically whether we're talking about a VICTIM or OFFENDER, respectively.
And, a 17 year old is considered adult as an OFFENDER, but not adult as a VICTIM.
Clear as mud? Thought so!
Jan 24, 2008 at 12:19 p.m.
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I find it kind of interesting that when a young person is involved in an accident involving alcohol as a driver that people are immediately pointing fingers at the people that provide that alcohol to the minor, yet when the police/sheriff department make attempts to root out the people/businesses that do, then they are "entrapping" them. It's usually the same people/business establishments that minors know they can go and get alcohol over and over. However as law enforcement if you target those businesses specifically then they claim they are getting picked on, so to prevent that, law enforcement has to go to every establishment to be fair. Don't break the law and you won't get into trouble!!!
Jan 24, 2008 at 11:44 a.m.
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OK, without getting into debate on the merits, I will shed a little information based on how these investigations are typically run.
No, they do not employ children in these investigations. They employ adults who have not reached the legal age to purchase alcohol.
Secondly, depending on the investigation, there may not be actual completion of the transaction. It is testing whether the clerk meets their legal responsibility to ensure they are selling to a person lawfully.
Having said that, even if the transaction is completed - under the management and control of law enforcement personnel - it is the same type of situation employed in unlawful drug trafficking. By that I mean that drug investigations often involve the actual purchase of a controlled substance in a strictly controlled manner, either by an undercover officer or by someone under the control and management of law enforcement. This is a valid, lawful investigative technique, as determined by the courts.
Many types of offenses are investigated by sending some sort of operative to determine the legitimacy of a complaint or suspicion, or to determine compliance with laws, rules, and orders.
Jan 24, 2008 at 11:34 a.m.
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The article states that the underage people will be "young adults". I take that to mean that they will be people between the ages of 18 and 20 -- not legally old enough to buy alchohol, but old enough to be considered an adult. I see nothing wrong with this compliance check. The young people are going to be attempting to purchase alchohol, not consume it. If it keeps the bartenders in this town on their toes, I'm all for it.
Jan 24, 2008 at 11:20 a.m.
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garyprimer has a valid point. Does the end justify the means?
Jan 24, 2008 at 11:08 a.m.
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I don't see the word children being used in the storys topic, I see it using young adults....... Places that serve alcohol to underage need to get thier alcohol lisense taken away. As for manufacturing a crime its a crime thats been around for awhile. Whats it going to take, maybe your underage child getting served, then getting into an accident taking some ones life? I bet you will be angry as all heck for something to be done...
Jan 24, 2008 at 10:38 a.m.
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Using children in a police action like this is perverse, and abhorrent. Asking a bartender to serve you alcohol if you're underage while working for the police sure sounds like entrapment.
Jan 24, 2008 at 10:34 a.m.
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All the bartender has to do is ask for identification. The kid won't have a fake ID that the police have provided him.
Ask for it, check it and tell them to leave. Sounds pretty simple to me.
Jan 24, 2008 at 10:16 a.m.
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The underage people who attempt to purchase alcoholic beverages are breaking the law. It is not okay to break the law because a law officer tells you to. I have a real problem with these sting operations, not because I want to protect lawbreakers, but because law enforcement is manufacturing crimes, something that I do not feel is a legitimate function of law enforcement.
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