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Three-car accident involves Delavan squad

By MIKE HEINE   Wednesday, January 9, 2008 - 3:30 p.m.
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DELAVAN—A town of Delavan police sergeant was involved in a three-car accident on Highway 50 near Eagle Street about 5:50 a.m. Wednesday.

According to the accident report, drafted by the Walworth County Sheriff’s Department, Sgt. Raymond Clark was eastbound on Highway 50. His squad rear-ended a stopped minivan waiting to turn left onto Eagle Street and pushed it into an oncoming minivan.

A 50-year-old Elkhorn woman in the minivan struck by Clark sustained minor injuries, according to the report.

Clark was not ticketed. The road was slippery and frost-covered. Clark was following too close, according to the report.

The driver of the oncoming minivan, a 20-year-old Lake Geneva man, was citied for operating after revocation.

The squad sustained considerable damage, Town of Delavan Chief Phill Smith said.

Read more in tomorrow’s Janesville Gazette.




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busyallthetime
Jan 11, 2008 at 7:05 p.m.
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I am not going to disagree about who's fault the accident was, BUT, The revoked driver should not have been on the road, and neither driver of the two vans has any Motor Vehicle Insurance. I know that WI is one of 2 states that don't require even Liability Insurance, but remember, had one of the two of them hit you, you would be screwed. Now, just the tax payers for the town of Delavan will be affected, because of "the quick buck people"
If you ask me, the officer actually did us a favor, by taking two pieces of crap off of our roads.

badgerboy
Jan 10, 2008 at 11:39 a.m.
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Sounds like "professional courtesy" was invoked by that Sgt. not getting a ticket. He should have been issued a ticket. And before enufsaid jumps on this post, I was in law enforcement for a number of years so I do know the risks. Law Enforcement people are human, they make mistakes, but they are also held to a higher level of accountability than the general public.

enufsaid
Jan 10, 2008 at 9:57 a.m.
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Oh geez.......back off people. I challenge any of you to do what a police officer, firefighter, paramedic, etc have to do on a daily basis. A police officer is only human and as stated in one of the comments - they "drive" for a living. Accidents will happen. Remember - the officer who "rear ended" that citizen would put his life on the line for you or a loved one in a heartbeat as part of his job. How many of us citizens would do that?Let's show some respect here!! Oh and to respond to truth1's comment about the accident victim being entitled to "quite a few bucks". The story reads that she had minor injuries and I'm sure her vehicle was damaged. She should be compensated for both but lets not get "sue" happy here because it was an officer (aka government employee) who hit her.

garyprimer
Jan 10, 2008 at 9:53 a.m.
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The township is just trying to limit their liability by not citing the officer. When you cannot stop for a legally stopped vehicle, there can be no doubt that you are traveling too fast for conditions and you are always at fault if you hit a stopped vehicle in the rear. Maybe the officer was just too shook up by the experience and simply forgot to write himself a ticket. It could happen...

panzer
Jan 10, 2008 at 6:59 a.m.
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It is so typical that whenever the paper prints a story of a Police Officer involved in a crash that some uninformed know it all makes the comment "if it was anyone else they would get a ticket" comment. It simply is not true that the police always get a break and citizens dont. There are plenty of people some reading this, that have been in accidents and didnt get cited. It just doesnt get printed in the paper everytime it happens like it does with a police Officer. Police Officers if anything are held to a greater standard in the publics eyes and obvoiusly from reading the comments posted are supposed to be perfect drivers that don't ever get involved in accidents. Not only do Oficers get tickets but then they get reprimanded by thier supervisor also. How many of you get a ticket and get in trouble with your boss when you cause an accident? Police Officers drive in cars for a living. They spend more time behind the wheel during there lives than most people do. I guess this would probably increase there chances of being involved in a car crash. The officer was marked at fault the city insurance will pay for the victims car. Like viper said I would like to see the stats, Because all you whiners below would be surprised. I've seen officers get cited for something that a citizen probably wouldnt have been cited for just because the supervision wanted to avoid the apperance that the officer was getting special treatment. Now I know why after reading all of those un-informed angry citizen comments.

truth1
Jan 10, 2008 at 1:24 a.m.
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There should be PLENTY of hungry lawyers ready to go to work for the woman that was rear ended...This should be good for quite a few bucks for her and she definitely has it coming.

pigbrain
Jan 9, 2008 at 11:14 p.m.
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Mom, you're 50% correct (notice the pun, there?)
You might be thinking of the actual claim/settlement, where almost no driver is 100% at fault for an accident. When it comes to a settlement, a driver is 10 to 20 percent responsible for their part in an accident just by being there, so you're right.
The actual ticket issued by an officer is not part of the accident settlement, although it may help establish a case against the driver who gets ticketed if the case went to court.

momof5
Jan 9, 2008 at 9:44 p.m.
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pigbrain: I think you are wrong. No person is ever 100% at fault in an accident--atleast in Wisconsin.

pigbrain
Jan 9, 2008 at 9:18 p.m.
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"in Wisconsin aren't you 10% at fault reguardless of who is to blame in any accident?"
No.
"what a joke. why no ticket? following to close is a citation. and he causes considerable damage to a police car?"
"well of course they are .......a cop be in the wrong ? what are the rest of us thinking?"

"Bravo to the police on this one the only one not paying A price is the one person who was at fault Sgt Clark! One last thought I've driven on frost covered roads and not lost control as he stated and it would be next to impossible for the officers squad car to be unable to stop given the fact all police cars have anti-lock brakes!!!!!!! Could there also be A charge of obstructing added for officer Clark lying in the report? PLEASE!"

First off, Clark can't be cited for a false report as he isn't allowed to write a report when he is involved with the incident. Also, no citations would be issued to him until after an investigation done by an outside agency and a superior over him.
Relax, folks, it's not over yet. Many officers have had fender benders on and off duty, their insurance rates prove it. If he's at fault he'll have his insurance paying to fix the scuffed vehicles same as you would.

doc0430
Jan 9, 2008 at 7:52 p.m.
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Ok first off the 20 year old from Lake Geneva yes should not have been driving without A license (probably lost it for following to close, driving to fast for conditions and inattentive driving in an accident) but officer Clark should not have been driving the way he was and certainlly should have been ticketed. Now the driver of the 3rd vehicle will undoubtably lose their license longer pay A huge fine and depending if this was A 1st offense of OAR could serve time in jail, now on to the real victim of this accident the 50 year old woman in car #2 that was rear-ended since officer Clark was not ticketed this womans insurance will have to cover her medical expenses her damage to her vehicle and in turn her rates will probably go up on her! Bravo to the police on this one the only one not paying A price is the one person who was at fault Sgt Clark! One last thought I've driven on frost covered roads and not lost control as he stated and it would be next to impossible for the officers squad car to be unable to stop given the fact all police cars have anti-lock brakes!!!!!!! Could there also be A charge of obstructing added for officer Clark lying in the report? PLEASE!

MajorMojo
Jan 9, 2008 at 7:32 p.m.
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What a joke!! IF it was a civilian that caused the wreck, they would have been ticketed seven ways to Sunday.

mentor397
Jan 9, 2008 at 6:07 p.m.
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Investigation? If you're in an accident, they will almost always issue citations right away - It isn't that often that those involved have to wait.

wbr3under
Jan 9, 2008 at 4:46 p.m.
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in Wisconsin aren't you 10% at fault reguardless of who is to blame in any accident? It is assumed that the driver of the van,the officer hit would not have turned infront of the second van had the officer not pushed said van into oncoming traffic.How can the officer not be at fault for this traffic accident?

jade
Jan 9, 2008 at 4:25 p.m.
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crazysue
Jan 9, 2008 at 4:21 p.m.
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I want to add to my previous comment if I may. 3 tickects should be issued. inattentive driving, driving to fast for condition, and following to close. Yes cops can be wrong but to bluntly state he was following to close and not be issued any citation right or wrong lets get real he was in the wrong. let him go to court just like the rest of us and plead his case.

cl6235dmp
Jan 9, 2008 at 3:56 p.m.
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Investigation will need to be done before any thing happens to an Officer. Yes cops can be wrong.....

Viper
Jan 9, 2008 at 3:51 p.m.
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i agree with u crazy.....and ur right why was he following close if the roads were bad ....granted no fog probaly but guess he didnt watch the news or read the papers on the mess in madison on sunday.......cops tell other drivers to slow down ....follow at a safe distance.use ur head when driving? well wear was his head at .....i have a idea where it was at but cant post that here lol

Viper
Jan 9, 2008 at 3:47 p.m.
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well of course they are .......a cop be in the wrong ? what are the rest of us thinking? i would like to see stats on how many cops get out of tickets us NORMAL people would get

crazysue
Jan 9, 2008 at 3:47 p.m.
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I think this is totaly wrong. If the squad knew road conditions were bad why was he so close. but why was he following to close anyway. Now if that was joe average citizen we would of got cited before the officer got out of the car and on our way to court. Talk about rules for us and rules for them. ya right and you say justice is fair. Now is this not preferencial treatment or what. Does the officer not have to drive with the same laws we do? This really makes me mad.

Badgerlvr
Jan 9, 2008 at 3:41 p.m.
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I'll bet that if it were anyone but a police officer "following too close", they'd have gotten a ticket. Are Delavan police immune from getting what the average citizen gets?

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