And I am more of a baboon than a babyboomer.

Is freeing Iraqis from a dictator what we should be doing when a completely separate entity wants to destroy our way of life? Seems like misuse of resources, and in this case those resources include lives. I'm fairly certain Bush's primary refrain has been that we are fighting the terrorists over there so we don't have to fight them here at home. How dare us choose Iraq as a place to fight our war with "the terrorists", what did the Iraqis do to deserve that?

You're drinking the Kool-Aid now. The trouble with naive people is that they don't realize that they are naive. So pat yourself on the back and call me names if it makes you feel better. I won't lose any sleep over it.

Yeah because Saddam was totally a threat to the U.S.! I mean maybe, just maybe, if Cuba had oil we could've liberated them too! I mean what are a few thousand more lives? American or Iraqi...right? Because, you know, we should be the world police..

BBfan says "George W. Bush will only be remembered as the president who got us into the needless Iraq war and will go down in history as one of the worst presidents we've had this past century."

Yeah, how dare George W. Bush free Iraq from a dictator like Saddam. That was pretty thoughtless of him. So I guess the change that you want Obama to bring is either communism, socialism, or fascism.

There are a few reasons I think Obama would/will be a great canidate.

1. He's a very inspiring person. He is attracting millions of new voters into the process. Now, I will agree, its partly because of Bush's massive failure as president. But, you cant deny that he's started the fire to get people engaged in the process. Great leaders know how to inspire. Bill Clinton inspired me, Hillary does not.

2. The ability to work with opposition. I honestly cannot see Hillary Clinton able to work with the Republicans. She is old school politics and that needs to give way to a new set of ideals. Obama on the other hand has worked with both sides to get things done. This leads me to believe that when Obama wants to get things done, he looks past all of the usual partisan b.s..

3. Foreign Policy. His stance is to talk to leaders who are not in good standing with us. Clinton is opposed to talking without some sort of agreements. That is just plain ridiculous. There is absolutely NO reason to not sit down and talk to another leader, no matter how different the views are. We promote peace in the middle east that goes back centuries, yet we wont go 80 miles south and talk with the Cubans. Its absolutely absurd that I am not allowed to go to Cuba for something that happened 45 years ago. That to me speaks volumes of what is wrong with our gov't.

Sorry for the rant. When it comes down to it. I will vote for either of the democratic canidates. But, if the superdelegates decide the nominee, millions of potential voters will be lost.

garyprimer, I wonder if you are a babyboomer or older. If not then maybe it's just what Janesville does to young people. As a country we are on the cusp of potentially major changes. Obama is in some respects like Reagan in that he is motivated by a vision of America he wants others to believe in as well. Hopefully the young (and older) people who do support Obama will not be discouraged by bitter comments like yours and at the same time will be motivated to engage their communities like he and all the current candidates have. They all provide visions for the future and please vote for the one you prefer. You are right to imply that voting isn't enough, it takes individual participation in communities as well. Try to raise your criticism beyond pot shots at those who see something in Obama that you do not. We can be hopeful without being naive.

Yeah, man, like, if you're not part of the solution, you're like part of the problem. If you're not for Obama, you're like not for the future.

dillon--first you complain in other Obama forums about how it's not fair that he spoke at GM and that the general public wasn't invited. Now that he speaks publicly, you complain about the content. Seems to me that you're not happy with anything and that you are just on here to complain, which is your right. But please tell us--what kinds of surprises did you want to hear from Obama's speech at Beloit College? What is it that would get you out to vote? Do you have any solutions, or do you wake up every morning wondering what your hot topic of complaint will be for the day?

dillon, candidates have messages and stump speeches. They all do, it's called getting the message out. Also, the President works with Congress to make change and in many ways is of symbolic importance. The voters can signify to the Congress what direction we'd like the country to go with our vote for President. So, it is legitimate to cast a 'message vote.' Whether the Congress listens is another issue. The last midterm was a good example of a message vote working from the Congress toward the President, but the President essentially just dug his heels in deeper. So, we can scream all we want with our votes but it doesn't matter if the people in power choose not to listen.

Also, if a candidate outlines policy in great detail they get labeled a wonk and are thought to be boring. If somebody, like Obama, is inspirational then people say they have no policies. Given the way so many citizens do nothing but tear these people down, simply being willing to run for president indicates fortitude.

McCain is throwing out the same vague political rhetorique as Obama and Clinton. With either McCain or Obama there will be change and that is what we need since Bush is one of the worst presidents in history.

Wow what a surprise...he spoke of CHANGE! And basically repeated the same things that you hear in the TV commercial that has been playing the last few days. I'm all for an enthusiastic and energetic personality but that doesn't make a good president. Kind of reminds me of the Pied Piper..play the flute and all the rats will follow...

Obama is going to change the political climate in our country and is actually a breath of fresh air. George W. Bush will only be remembered as the president who got us into the needless Iraq war and will go down in history as one of the worst presidents we've had this past century. Obama will get us out of the war and rejuvenate our economy! The time is change is NOW!

Maybe Obama is just "Full of hot air. Full of hot air."