maybe we should have a vote to hunt hunters or maybe farmers. wolves have every right to live just as we do.

DIDN'T SAY i'D TELL ANYONE

cabby05- I see where your coming from and understand it I don't live by any packs of wolves I live in southern Wisconsin. Still the thought of such majestic and amazing creatures being killed makes my stomach turn. I understand the need for it I just don't think I could ever agree with it. To me I see someone killing these animals not to save livestock or keep populations down but as a way of saying look I killed the big bad wolf. I guess I don't really see a wolf but my own dog. Wolves have always been one of my favorite animals it just makes me sad to think they are going to be shot at.

Uc- you have to understand that not everybody and their brother is going to be able to hunt the wolves.and that there are going to be rules you MUST follow. As for your dog looking like a wolf or what ever how would you like it if your dog got attacked by a wolf and not being able to do anything about it? I've seen a wolf come right up to our dogs cage! it's not a very good feeling watching one walk right up to your dogs cage. and every time you let your dog out to go to the bathroom you have to fear for it! I'm not saying lets go kill every wolf or any thing like that but it would be nice to have a way to control the population.

mikeb- a wolf by no means is a poor animal...

UClA....I certainly agree with your overall comments. For folks whose livestock is their livelihood, however, the loss of even a few animals is no different than someone taking money out of our purse or wallet. If the loss of stock is indeed a serious issue in parts of the state, then a management program of some sort has to be implemented. And that does not involve wholesale slaughter. Hopefully those in power are now smart enough to help maintain a healthy existence of timber wolves in Wisconsin. I am confident we won't see the slaughter days of the past. I wonder how the vote went tonight. We are two hours earlier where I live.

People complain about the deer population well wolves help take care of that. If this passes people will get gun happy kill of a good portion of the wolves just so they can mount them in their basement. Then once the killing spree goes to far they will either be put back on the list or driven out of Wisconsin for good. I have an Alaskan Malamute and they look a great deal like a wolf. The thought of someone shooting a wolf is like seeing someone shoot my dog. I don't care about facts or over population killing wolves is wrong!

A wolf, like any carnivore will go for the weak and easy prey first. Some times that is a fawn, but more often than not it will be an older animal that cannot keep up with the heard. Wolves hunt in packs and will single out an animal to hunt and kill. Deer, like any other animal in the wild, will only populate what the food supply will tolerate.

Read my April 13 7:28 post. I quote the DNR website. It will clarify the deer - wolf argument.

I would tend to disagree its a direct result, sure it has contributed but wolves not being there most definately had something to do with the population boom.

Quote “ it is obvious though, that the reason we have an over-abundance of deer is a direct result of farmers killing almost all wolves in Wisconsin” Not true. When the wolf population was killed off there were not as many deer in the state because there was not as much food for them to eat. The croplands you see today are not the same as they were 100 years ago. The over population of deer is a direct result of the food available to them.

some people are not happy unless they can kill a poor animal

The vote is tonight. Even if it passes, which it probably will, the State Legislature has to approve it. It will then take a long, long time to get things set up for a season.
Let's just hope that all positions are considered by the State if it comes down to them. I don't think anybody wants the wanton slaughter of the state's wolf population that occurred in the past.

whatdidyousay is wrong wrong wrong!! wolves are not at the top of the food chain!! we are. shoot the muts!!:)

whatdidyousay.....If you reread my comments, you will find that my references were all about Wisconsin. So I guess you missed my point again. It was also determined through autopsy that the Canadian you "researched" died of a brain aneurysm and was eaten by wolves and coyotes. That no "attack" occurred. Your argument that we should kill wolves because they "might" attack humans is ridiculous.
The only valid reason to control the growth of the wolf population in Wisconsin is predation. The growing number of packs is a concern to stock owners and should be monitored closely.
And by the way, I don't live in the "city" as you suggested. I live in the mountains. In fact my wife and I recently saw a mountain lion sunning itself 100 yards from a road to our house in the foothills. I used the binoculars from my Jeep glove box, not a rifle.

My it's funny how history tends to repeat itself.

I'm not against hunting, and I'm not against a controlled hunt of the population.... it is obvious though, that the reason we have an over-abundance of deer is a direct result of farmers killing almost all wolves in Wisconsin, because they threatened their livestock. I just want to emphasize that we need to be careful, and there is no reason that humans should be fearful.

Tastes like dog!

Just my $.02 worth. Rather than saying it is just wrong or how can anyone want to kill a wolf, why not back your statements with some commentary of why you think it is wrong. Wolves at one point were wild in Wisconsin then were re introduced some time back. The population has grown to the point of almost out of control. No there has not been an attack yet in Wisconsin by a wolf on a person, but dogs and livestock have been killed because they are easy prey for a wolf. Is it cool to hear a wolf howl, yes it is unless it is less than 50 yards from you. If you want to see what a wolf pack can do, ask a bear hunter that hunts with dogs, and don’t start in how bear hunting is wrong also. The wolf pack will actually go to the baying dog because they are easy prey. For those of you that love the animals in the sate, how do you think they are supported? By that I mean who pays for the re introduction of the animal, who pays for the biologists and the wardens, who pays for almost the entire DNT budget? If you don’t know that answer it is simple, the hunting licenses, fishing licenses, boating licenses and campers. I have left a few of the licenses out but I think you get the drift The men and women that use the outdoors through recreation are the ones that pay for ALL of the people in Wisconsin to enjoy what the outdoors has to offer. When, not if, there is a wolf hunt in Wisconsin, it will be very controlled and only a few licenses will be issued. They population of wolves is getting bigger every year, and unless there is some sort of hunt to curb the growth, it will be only a matter of time before they become to great a threat to livestock and humans.

I'm sure if there was a season there would only be so many people able to do it. Look at bear hunting it takes up to 7 years if your lucky to get a license and you can't kill a mama bear with cubs.

Why not just stop hunting everything? they all have feelings right?

You people who say youll kill a wolve or cougar if you see it are morons.

You people who say killing wolves is wrong and you "live to see one" are uneducated about what wolves are doing to the north woods, talk to any regular deer hunter in wolve territory and ask him how his hunts have been lately.

We dont need an open season on wolves but we definately need a controlled hunt.

And for the guy who would kill a cougar if he saw it, you better have claw marks up and down your back or prove beyond a doubt it was self defense or youll be spending some time in prison.

Whatdidyousay,

I don't know if you read the article you linked all of us to, but it only supports, for the most part, what we've been trying to tell you. The only part it did not support was where it mentioned wolves are becoming less fearful of humans. We still are not on their dinner plate, though.

Maybe we can just let the mountain lion pride control the wolf population :)

If a wolf or cougar were in my barn, I would shoot it.

First of all, I would like to say that it is my experience that the DNR is usually on the wrong side of any issue. I just happen to live in the northwoods where wolves are present and have not seen one yet. Since one of the reasons I live here is to see the wildlife, I hope I get to see a wolf before the hunters shoot them all. Hunters and the DNR should remember that a lot of Wisconsin's residents enjoy living here because they can see wildlife and that hunting is not the only reason for its existence. I'm not anti-hunting, but leave a few for the rest of us to enjoy. Please!

Yeah the dnr knows what to do about everything. Cause the dnr has handled the cwd just soooooo well. NOT.

Are all of you suggesting we stop hunting bear and coyotee also.

whatdidyousay.......There has NEVER (read my lips) NEVER been a substantiated report of a wolf attack on a human in Wisconsin...NEVER. Your logic is ridiculous. Why don't you run next door and shoot your neighbor because he might some day attack you? Sounds more like George Bushes logic of preemptive attacks on other nations to me. You never know when they might attack us.
I totally understand the need for farmers to protect their stock, but to have an open season for every peabrain with a rifle to go wolf hunting is crazy. My humble opinion is that wolves in Wisconsin should remain protected except for controlled, monitored hunts through the DNR.

Whatdidyousay,

I think the point is that wolves do not hunt humans. Wolves are afraid of humans and a sane one would only attack in self defense. Wolf attacks on humans are VERY rare, and there is no reason for any human to fear for their life. By the way, how do you know where these commentators live? You shouldn't assume that only people who live in the city are opposed to hunting wolves...

Can't imagine what wolf meat tastes like. And mounting it conjures up all sorts of images.

I totally support the wolf hunting season! I don't care what anybody says about killing wolfs its not wrong as long as it's going to be a season. And as a hunter myself if I killed a wolf I would eat it, or mount it. It wouldn't go to waste thats for sure.

Standing on the porch of my mother's house in Westboro WI at night is interesting. The wolves are howling to one another in the nearby woods.
I remember my grandfather talking about being afraid of the wolves but for the first time in my life I am beginning to hear them too. What goes around comes around?

I will save you the time researching it. The answer is ZERO.

whatdidyousay........How many people have been killed, or even attacked by wolves in Wisconsin? Just curious.

The Wisconsin DNR says,
"Wolves are the "bad guys" of fable, myth, and folklore. The "big bad wolf" fears portrayed in Little Red Riding Hood, Peter and the Wolf, and other tales have their roots in the experiences and stories of medieval Europe. Wolves were portrayed as vile, demented, immoral beasts. These powerful negative attitudes and misconceptions about wolves have persisted through time, perpetuated by stories, films and word-of-mouth, even when few Americans will ever have the opportunity to encounter a wolf.

Wolves are controversial because they are large predators. Farmers are concerned about wolves preying on their livestock. In northern Wisconsin, about 17 cases of wolf depredation occur per year, about half are on livestock and half on dogs. As the population continues to increase, slight increases in depredation are likely to occur. In Minnesota, with over 2600 wolves, there are usually 60 to 100 cases per year.

A few hunters continue to kill wolves, believing that such actions will help the deer herd. It is important to place in perspective the impact of wolves feeding on deer. Each wolf kills about 18 deer per year. Multiply this by the number of wolves found in Wisconsin in recent years (330), and approximately 5940 deer may be consumed by wolves annually. This appears as a fairly low when compared to over 40,000 deer hit by cars each year, and about 450,000 deer shot annually by hunters."

What's the point in killing more wolves if we're already having a serious problem controlling the deer population? The wolves will help a lot to keep the deer population down... unless we don't allow them to help.

There are morons in Wisconsin who will kill anything....just for the sake of killing something. Takes a hell of a man to kill a wolf with a high powered rifle. And don't give me that crap about protecting livestock. The overwhelming majority of wolf hunters are not out protecting their livestock.
What will these idiots do with a wolf once they have killed it? Eat it? Bounty? Mount it?

when the population of them gets to large yes it is. If you were somewhat educated you would know that

No, I do not believe it is.

Killing wolves is wrong!!!