Delayed posts boost value of print edition

By SCOTT ANGUS ( Contact )   Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 9:31 p.m.

Newspapers all over the country are reconsidering their Web strategies, and The Janesville Gazette is among them.

The reason is that Web sites are not generating the revenue that newspapers hoped they would. The sites make money, but they still represent far less than 10 percent of most newspapers’ total revenues.

And then there is a question of the Web sites’ impact on print newspapers. Why should people pay for print when they can read the news for free on the Web?

Given that print still pays the bills, newspapers have a strong interest in retaining as many readers as possible. Circulation trends have not been good, and some people believe the availability of free online news is a key factor.

The arguments on both sides are long and complicated. Nothing is as simple as it seems.

At the Gazette, we’ve discussed and debated long enough.

Starting today, visitors to gazettextra.com will see a change in how and when local stories are posted.

Breaking local news will continue to be posted as it happens as brief stories in the Latest News blog. Full stories that appear in print in our new morning edition won’t be posted on the Web until later that afternoon.

The approach gives our paying customers earlier access to many of the stories that we produce. In other words, if you want to be in the know during the day about the most important issues in your community, you’d better read the morning Gazette. You will no longer be able to catch up at work or at home until much later in the day.

We think this approach gives more value to the newspaper, and we think it will help us slow or even stop the decline in print readership. That’s essential if we hope to continue to provide the content that makes the Gazette special.

Producing a quality newspaper costs money. In the newsroom alone, we have 30 people devoted to following issues, asking questions, attending events and meetings, writing stories, taking photos, editing copy and producing pages. We have dozens of people in other departments who do important work that helps ensure we publish every day.

We need to pay these people and meet our other obligations, and the revenue from online advertising isn’t covering enough of our costs to justify the Web’s impact on newspaper sales.

Other newspapers are looking at charging people for access to their local content on their Web sites. At this point, we’re not going there.

Instead, we think the delay in posting stories will give people more incentive to read us in print. Subscribers also will have early access to the full paper online through our improved E Edition.

At the same time, we think this approach retains much of what has made gazettextra.com an award-winning and incredibly popular Web site. The Web site can do so many things that the print newspaper cannot, and we intend to improve many of those features and add more in the months ahead to strengthen gazettextra.com's franchise.

Is this the answer to the challenges facing the Gazette and other newspapers? Not entirely. But we think it will help.

reader COMMENTS (101)
oldtimer
Jul 7, 2009 at 10:40 a.m.
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Iam in my 80's and have been taking the gazette for a long time as did my parents when I was young, Iam disgusted with the paper, you dont have any hard nose reporters to get facts, You just have these employees that want to blog etc. you have to depend on other news sources to get news. I could give you a lot more but I dont think you care.

JackSprack
May 5, 2009 at 9:12 a.m.
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you mean we have to pay to play,when did they come up with that?just kidding!

justsaynotomath
May 2, 2009 at 8:39 a.m.
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there is no value in the print edition unless you have no computer.

stomskid
May 2, 2009 at 6:50 a.m.
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i have to put my 2 cents in.. living out in the country where they just toss you paper anywhere and it gets rained on, and a terrible mess i enjoyed reading news online at anytime of the day. now with this new system in place, i am wondering why once it hits the public why cant they update it online.not everyone can afford print or e version or want it that way. and it also seems like that they are posting more junk then the news....ok there is my 2 cents.....

bhansen99xj
May 1, 2009 at 10:24 a.m.
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@JozeMozes: AdBlock Plus for Firefox still loads the advertisements...it just removes them from view. So if a company is measuring how many people view the advertisement, you are still part of that statistic. But, ABP makes their advertising useless.

On Topic: The only way throttling back on the time content is posted online will raise the value of a printed edition is if people actually subscribe or buy it daily. You will see a decrease in traffic to the website and overall revenue, and an unnoticeable change in subscribers. The Internet community wants the news NOW, and wants to discuss it. The popularity of other news sites will increase as a result of this. At least you're helping somebody.

JozeMozes
Apr 30, 2009 at 7:44 p.m.
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Be mindful of firefox and adblock plus Mr angus.

sangus
Apr 30, 2009 at 6:49 p.m.
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Regarding ads and revenue, Google ads on our site generate revenue on a click-through basis. Local ads are charged a flat monthly fee based on position, page and size. We plan to explore a click-through model for local ads because we think it could generate more revenue.

Scott Angus

myke2
Apr 30, 2009 at 2:46 p.m.
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Most of the larger sites have you register; then charge a monthly fee...suggest you do that...the internet is NOT free.

IMHO

proartist
Apr 30, 2009 at 1:58 p.m.
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Now that we have our newspaper in the morning, would it be possible to list ALL of that day's events ON THAT SAME DAY instead of just a select few in the side column? It previously worked well as it was/is in the evening paper with a complete list for the next day but now readers might want to see all that's available on a given day when they're reading on that morning.

localmatters
Apr 30, 2009 at 1:24 p.m.
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I'm still trying to find my reading groove. I do like the morning paper but I still read most of it at night. I'm one of those odd folks -- in the technology generation but love to have the print in my hand.

jvldss
Apr 30, 2009 at 8:13 a.m.
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I can see delaying stories a day or two but after three days who cares anymore. I now go to JSonline (Milwaukee Journal) and Madison.com (Wisconsin State Journal) where the content is robust, the stories in-depth and a lot more current that two or three days old.

fool_on_the_hill
Apr 30, 2009 at 6:05 a.m.
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Mr. Angus: When will you know whether or not this new model is producing a net benefit? Will you return to the old model if it doesn't?

I, too, am curious about your local on-line advertising in the margins. Must readers click an ad to generate revenue for Gazettextra; do you charge per view (download) or is it a simple flat rate as in print space?

hannah
Apr 29, 2009 at 4:12 p.m.
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I use mine for the kitty to pee on if she has accidents.

jvldss
Apr 29, 2009 at 10 a.m.
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This will probably boost listening to the local radio stations for immediate community news. Good thing they are owned by the same company.

Newspapers are a dying medium because they cannot, in their current form, deliver the immediacy the other technologies can offer. It will be interesting to see if this can slow or reverse the steady decline in circulation.

BostonBill
Apr 28, 2009 at 10:51 p.m.
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If I had a dollar for every time "rexkramer" had a, "Don't worry", in one of his posts, or a negative comment, I would share the wealth with all of you and we could all be financially wealthy. *lol*

JozeMozes
Apr 28, 2009 at 10:40 p.m.
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QUOTE janesvillean:
"So far, taking a print copy of the Gazette or Reader's Digest into the bathroom is a lot easier than lugging a laptop into the porcelain closet. Perhaps the Gazette can turn to a softer, more absorbent paper, and ensure it's future."

MY GOODNESS WHAT A LAUGH! I like you sir! Very intelligent, well spoken with good ideas. I second this:

"Here's a viable business model for the Gazette: Only the comments of paid subscribers (print or e-edition) are displayed automatically. Non-subscribers comments are stored and reviewed by Gazette staff for their value to add to the story or comments dialog and then added or deleted.
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Based on subscription sales we can assume people won't pay to read, but if you look at cell phone contracts, people sure will pay to talk."

Pay to post period. Keeps the riff raff checked and ensures semi-intelligent diatribe. One of many creative ways to make money in our bold new connected world. Hell if you try hard enough Scott you can get Mr Milam on twitter and that has to be worth something. ;O)

RUSerious
Apr 28, 2009 at 7:53 p.m.
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pepepez-well, it isn't the ink itself I have a problem with, it's when I get up from reading the paper to answer the door-and it's not until later I find out I have a streak of it across my face. (Who knows how it got there.) No-I'd much rather have the chocolate on my fingers from the donut I can eat-(with coffee too) while reading the online version. Can't do that as easily with a paper version.
But I will try to see it in a different light since reading your comment.

chainsawchuckie
Apr 28, 2009 at 7:12 p.m.
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don't know Zoom

Zoom
Apr 28, 2009 at 6:58 p.m.
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Does clicking on ads create revenue for the Gazette?

chainsawchuckie
Apr 28, 2009 at 6:42 p.m.
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I have been to several other news papers blogs and they DON'T even come close to this one. their blogs and posts are very lame. Thank You Mr. Angus for making this the way it is and hey we can still post on the days stories even if they are a little bit later.........Thanks again!!!! STAY SAFE!!!!

latinmami2
Apr 28, 2009 at 6:40 p.m.
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The Gazette does have to make money to pay the staff that writes the news that we so badly want to read so it does make a little sense to charge the readers instead of giving free news away everyday.

busdriver1188
Apr 28, 2009 at 6:31 p.m.
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So the gazette holds true to it's name. 'Read yesterday's news tomorrow.' WAY TO GO!!!!

pepepez
Apr 28, 2009 at 5:32 p.m.
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To RUserious: but inky fingers are so cool!

SarahB1
Apr 28, 2009 at 3:53 p.m.
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Any idea what time we get to read the free stuff online? I would subscribe, but being jobless requires me to make priorities. For example, I need the internet to file applications.

janesvillecomments
Apr 28, 2009 at 1:55 p.m.
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Here's a viable business model for the Gazette: Only the comments of paid subscribers (print or e-edition) are displayed automatically. Non-subscribers comments are stored and reviewed by Gazette staff for their value to add to the story or comments dialog and then added or deleted.
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Based on subscription sales we can assume people won't pay to read, but if you look at cell phone contracts, people sure will pay to talk.

CallitasIseeit
Apr 28, 2009 at 12:36 p.m.
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Hannah-I went to the e-edition at lunch and cannot figure out how you have such delays. It is just as fast at home on the wirelss. I click the paper to make it larger and then use the mouse to drag to whatever story I want. Or if I am looking for something in particular use the two page view and then double click it to bring up the story to read in its own separate box. It is much more complete than the on-line version and no problem to read.

lakennedy
Apr 28, 2009 at 10:56 a.m.
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Given your obvious authority on the subject, what is your strategy, Rex?
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And this "liberal" would be all for bailing out the newspaper industry...the thing is, they haven't asked for one.

rexkramer
Apr 28, 2009 at 10:49 a.m.
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Congrats Gazette management, you've engineered a way to now tank your website hits in addition to your already tanking readership. Is it any wonder you folks are in financial trouble with management strategy like this.

Reminds me of the city's brilliant decision to just not plow snow and hope that it goes away, and how did that work out?

Don't worry though, I'm sure if you suck up to the liberals some more you'll all be in line for the next round of bailouts courtesy of us taxpayers.

thediplomat
Apr 28, 2009 at 10:07 a.m.
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They really should have done this the opposite way. Local news posted later. The majority don't get the Gazette for their world and national news. We go to the big news corps for that stuff.

truth1
Apr 28, 2009 at 10:05 a.m.
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I would also be willing to pay for a full online version..I am NOT AT ALL INTERESTED in paper and won't have the junk in my house.

lakennedy
Apr 28, 2009 at 9:52 a.m.
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I understand the Gazette's decision here. I even applaud it. I also understand the arguments on both sides of this debate. What I would like to point out is that sure, there are other mediums in which to get your news. Television, radio, internet, etc. I think that newspapers offer something unique, however. The fact that when we do get our printed version, often times the stories have been better investigated. We hear the whole story, not just second to second updates, which seems to me to be difficult to process. Newspapers, as a medium, are a staple to an informed society. I truly believe this. I find it interesting that our government is bailing out numerous other industries, no one has even considered the plight of the newspaper publisher. Think about it, the internet has pushed a burden on these publishers the level of which no other industry has faced. I understand that every industry must adapt to changing technology, but this is ridiculous. I hope everyone stops and thinks for a minute about the ramifications of not having printed news around. Sure, we can just flip open our laptops and be bombarded with "updates." The problem with that is, how many people stay tuned the entire time so that they are exposed to the entire story?
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I obviously use the online version of the Gazette, mainly because I am addicted to the commenting section. While I am guilty of using this area as my own personal soap box, I have to admit that I've learned a lot from other posters...That being said, I still subscribe to the printed newspaper. I will never stop. I also buy two to three other papers a day. In the evening, after my son is in bed, I love flipping open the papers and spending an hour or so reading through them. While many have an issue with the consumption of coffee table space, the ink on your fingers, etc. I love these things. I love the smell of these papers. Call me sentimental. I hope there is a middle ground discovered soon. I can't imagine a world with no newspapers...

Zoom
Apr 28, 2009 at 9:24 a.m.
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razorsharp,
A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business model that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, often without any product or service being delivered.

The Gazette is providing news in exchange for money, either from subscribers or advertisors. Do you have some magical alternative to commerce? Oh, that's right, only the "special people" can know.

Zoom
Apr 28, 2009 at 9:19 a.m.
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Rocky,
Where do you get your online news about Janesville and Rock County?

Rocky
Apr 28, 2009 at 9:17 a.m.
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That's OK - there are more online sources for news than this.

joeflint
Apr 28, 2009 at 8:45 a.m.
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kiowamohican - you'll be as shocked as I was to hear that the idea of a "bailout" of sorts for the press has actually been recently suggested... a frightening dissolution of the freedom of the press, in my opinion, should such an event come to pass.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-o...

I rather think that consolidation (as opposed to collaboration) of the media has led to its quite predictable decline.

Zoom
Apr 28, 2009 at 8:14 a.m.
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I think some people don't understand this change. Some of the FREE online content will be delayed, but the entire e-edition (paid subscription) will be posted in the morning, just like the print edition. I don't see this as "propping up" the print edition, but creating an incentive to purchase the e-edition. $8.95/month is resonable for content you can't get anywhere else.

I think the Gazette could do a better job of advertising the e-edition. I also don't see a way to upgrade my current subscription online.

mrmeadec
Apr 28, 2009 at 7:15 a.m.
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I only get the sunday paper. I also sometimes buy the paper during the week but i usually base it off the website. I understand that it pays the bills. I feel buy doing it this way i won't be buying a paper as much. So you will be losing business from me. Now tht your printing in the morning you still gonna have papers to buy in the late afternoon. I see other papers are sold out in the afternoon?

kiowamohican
Apr 28, 2009 at 12:41 a.m.
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Newspaper circulation was actually on the decline well before the economy fell apart. The credit collapse that sunk the world economy (and was indeed widely predicted, most just did not listen) just exasperated the demise of newspaper circulation. Many of these large operations are literally hanging by a thread, and right on the verge of bankruptcy of some sort. I guess that makes one wonder if the large newspapers will be bailed out, like everyone else is being? If that happens it will really ignite the political flames, as many of these operations were the flag bear for the progressive cause.
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Maybe they can be bailed out, and the government can take a majority equity stake like they are doing with some banks (citi), and soon GM. Then the government can control the press in addition to the banks, and auto's. The new American way baby!

janesvillecomments
Apr 28, 2009 at 12:19 a.m.
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There probably wasn't any prediction of the economy tanking when the Gazette bought their new printing press, but it would be interesting to know if there was a trend of declining subscription & newsstand sales when the decision was made to purchase the Comet and build the new building for it. It doesn't appear the market for newpaper inserts advertising has dropped very much - I still gut the Sunday paper like a fish, tossing the advertising unread into a recycling bag, after picking out the comics.
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The Gazette has to try to prop up the print version of the paper for as long as possible, because that's where the bulk of the advertiser revenues have been. As younger generations turn away from printed media towards the Internet (PCs, laptops, cell phones, PDAs, anything running on I.P), the Gazette will be forced to make changes in their business model or lose market share. Advertisers will gradually be forced to choose alternative markets to reach a wider audience than future print medium circulation will offer them. Perhaps technologies will develop which give them greater assurances of Internet advertising effectiveness, or maybe they'll just have to trust to luck, shift to online advertising, and hope for the best.
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TV stations are better versed in multi-media and the on-demand nature of the web gives them a foothold on the "at my convenience" newspaper reader market. Viewers no longer have to jump through scheduling hoops, they can catch the 6pm or 10pm news online when they want to. Still, local stations and even the "Big Three" networks don't have a free ride, as the explosion of channels offered by cable, satellite, on the web divide and conquer their viewing audience - while blogs, You-Tube, and Twittering cut into the blocks of time younger generations formerly reserved for TV viewing.
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I don't plan on moving to solely to electronic newspaper or magazine subscriptions until Amazon.com's Kindle (or a similar device) works much better and is a lot cheaper than the current technology offers. So far, taking a print copy of the Gazette or Reader's Digest into the bathroom is a lot easier than lugging a laptop into the porcelain closet. Perhaps the Gazette can turn to a softer, more absorbent paper, and ensure it's future.

JozeMozes
Apr 27, 2009 at 10:50 p.m.
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Neither is the Tribune Sarah the point is under the current business model these papers are bleeding money.

Mr Angus looks to increase sales and subscriptions by instilling a buffer when news gets reported online. Regardless of what the gazette does with print I still would not subscribe.

People no longer lead the common 9 to 5 with Harriet grabbing your paper from the doorstep in the morning while she prepares you poached eggs and steak.

Judging from the long lines at McDonalds in the morning that might be a possible venture publishing companies should look at. I just might purchase a paper with my morning coffee if reminded.

Why would anyone with good eyesight want to open a paper when they can flip their phone open and have everything ala carte'?

Sadly I read the Community Shopper more than any local paper. I was reminded why lately when the front cover of the Gazette had a murderer flipping an obscene gesture on the front page. Sure it sold newspapers that day Mr Angus but you lose my vote to have that publication available to school children.

Scott figure out a subscription model where you can easily view your newspaper "minority report" style on your tv. For those wondering Minority what? Get a add-on for firefox for viewing sites like youtube named cooliris. If you are left gape jawed wondering what firefox is call the Gazette and renew your subscription. I Jest!

Man o' Man would I ever pay for a subscription like that unless you fleeced me. Think of your overhead in that media utopia Scott!

BostonBill
Apr 27, 2009 at 10:43 p.m.
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I love the Gazette. Thanks.
http://www.walworthcountytoday.com/

Shopierehuh
Apr 27, 2009 at 10:42 p.m.
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Hey, whatever. I always wondered how you all could afford to give it away for free online.

SarahB1
Apr 27, 2009 at 8:56 p.m.
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JozesMozes: The Boston Globe is not dead yet.

JozeMozes
Apr 27, 2009 at 8:37 p.m.
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Mr Angus the printing press is an archaic device of the past. I sympathize with you and why I offer my insight. Quality local reporting is VERY important. With that said when the newspapers disappear (they will) where will you be as an organization? Look at the recent demise of the Boston Globe as a prime example of the Janesville Gazettes fate. There is NO happy medium in regards to the operational (bloated) costs of printing and delivering a newspaper to countless thousands of outlets and homes when compared to the efficiency of electronic delivery.

You have a simple generational gap issue here.
Older people love to see their news tangibly. In their hands. They will ALWAYS prefer a certain sized text as I am quite sure you have researched. They are indifferent and quite possibly bewildered by electronic devices that are our future.

The "younger" generation prefers to take their electronic media with them wherever they go and in an easy to use, view and sneak format. We love our multitude of connected devices. iPhone, Nintendo Ds, Sony Psp, Blackberrys, Kindle, Netbooks, Laptops ect. We do not want to make time to read a newspaper from front to back. We want to surf categories of interest and quickly skim the headlines that interest us. Then a smaller minority of us want to blog about issues near to our interests.

Embrace that realization Scott and find a way to bridge the generation gap and you can succeed! I have no clue how that ties in with the Gazettes beautiful new printing press and impressive facilities. Possibly a collaboration with the Beloit Daily News and/or CSI?

I hope you do not construe my post as overtly critical of you or your organizations fine reputation. I hope to see you succeed where others fail. Peace and prosperity!

joeflint
Apr 27, 2009 at 8:23 p.m.
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As the 4th Estate of our community, I think that these comment boards are an immensely valuable service that you are providing, even if the impact on your bottom line is indirect.

Also, I believe that you have finally started an e-edition subscription -- this is something that you may want to advertise more widely, despite the significant investment in the new printing facility.

To the entire staff of the Gazette -- for all of the hard and often thankless work that you perform -- THANKS!

mooser
Apr 27, 2009 at 7:42 p.m.
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Macdaddy I agree with you! By not putting the news on the internet until later in the day is not going to help boost newspaper sales. People can't afford $208.00 a year for a newspaper that you can read in about 10 minutes.

hannah
Apr 27, 2009 at 7:42 p.m.
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emmo- but thanks for trying to help ;#)

hannah
Apr 27, 2009 at 7:41 p.m.
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definitelty sorry

hannah
Apr 27, 2009 at 7:40 p.m.
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CallitasIseeit,
I tired again same crap. AM i supposed to download something so this works WELL.

I log in, it takes me to the page where the left side has a large box that tells you how to navigate. i close the box. the big paper comes up. i try to scroll down with the scroll bar they provide it freezes up. it says DONE at the bottom immediately instead of thinking for a momount. then i get the "program isnt responding over and over. try to close the box and it says not responding and it wont close- have to shut down computer for it to go away.
any suggestions.

like i said i dont have any problem with gazettextra.com or other sites but this one.

EMMO46
Apr 27, 2009 at 7:35 p.m.
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hannah??? "we are difinattle fast".
How fast is a "difinattle"? {:>)

hannah
Apr 27, 2009 at 7:06 p.m.
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windsor gets what I am saying.

hannah
Apr 27, 2009 at 7:04 p.m.
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CallitasIseeit

i am not on dial up. i have no problems with other sites or gazette extra. I will try again today and see what happens. We are satelitte or whatever here at wok. a computer geek owns the place so we are difinattle fast .

JustAskMe
Apr 27, 2009 at 6:25 p.m.
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Since the "breaking local news" will continue to be posted as it happens, I don't see any problems with the new policy. Hopefully it will increase newspaper sales.

Macdaddy
Apr 27, 2009 at 5:11 p.m.
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Why can't the gazette just embrace the future and deal with it properly. People and companies aren't spending money on advertising because, newsflash, THEY DON'T HAVE TO! You can post your rummage sales and stuff to sell for free on craiglist and create facebooks for businesses. Even Gazlo offers a reduced version online for free for every business. why would a company having to make tough financial situations in an economy like today even think twice about advertising in a newspaper? My guess is that within 5 years the daily delivery will be extinct.
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My point is why deprive people of local news and information. It creates a superiority complex of those who know and those that don't.

timetochange
Apr 27, 2009 at 5:02 p.m.
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Mr. Angus - Kudos to you for making some difficult but sensible decisions and for standing behind them in this forum with conviction. I personally enjoy the content that is available free on the website because of these debates, regardless of how timely the news is. Keep up the good work.

Gandalf
Apr 27, 2009 at 4:42 p.m.
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JoseMozes, if that's the most ludicrous thing you've read all year, you must not read very much. Also, the Gazette articles (not blogs) are far more in-depth than anything you see on the TV news, which tends to be very shallow. Comparing the Gazette to TV is not logical.

sangus
Apr 27, 2009 at 4:41 p.m.
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Walker,
Yes, stories from the Saturday and Sunday papers also will be posted later in the day.

Scott Angus

sangus
Apr 27, 2009 at 4:39 p.m.
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Jozemozes,
Much of what we have is unique content, and residents of Rock and Walworth County won't get that information on radio or TV. Also, much of that content isn't timely, meaning it isn't based on news events. In-depth articles such as our heroin series from last week, for example, won't be duplicated by any other media, at least in terms of the local impact. Not even close. We think that content has value, and so do thousands of readers.
And while you obviously have ideas and opinions about what we must do, you fail to address the problem with the digital business model. It's simply not working here or at other newspapers. And a failed business model seems to me to be a quicker way to extinction than working to shore up a model that has proven itself over decades.

Scott Angus

imatim2
Apr 27, 2009 at 4:38 p.m.
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The Gazette's decision to delay news on its website in favor of the printed version seems to me to be a step backward. The home delivered newspaper will surely go the way of home delivery of milk, block ice and COD mail.

The technology is here now to provide subscription on-line news; ie. WSJ and Consumer Reports. Attaching an anchor to modern technology in order for old technology to keep up is decision making without vision.
Where to you think most of the public will get its news in five years? I'm just guessing here but try: "a hand held device".

With this decision you are creating a void in the local, timely, dissemination of news. I wonder how long it will take for some unemployed energetic group to profitably fill it?

Walker
Apr 27, 2009 at 4:29 p.m.
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Will the saturday and sunday papers also be online much later in the day for non-print subscribers?

JozeMozes
Apr 27, 2009 at 4:26 p.m.
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Quote:

"The approach gives our paying customers earlier access to many of the stories that we produce. In other words, if you want to be in the know during the day about the most important issues in your community, you’d better read the morning Gazette. You will no longer be able to catch up at work or at home until much later in the day."

No offense but this is the most ludicrous statement I have read all year. If you want to stay in the "know." You flip on the radio or TV. There is NOTHING up to date about a newspaper in an era of up to the minute.

Newspapers across the world had better quickly realize this. Your value to the public is minimal while QUALITY and UNBIASED reporting is PRICELESS.

I would look at ANY model to deliver peoples news electronically. Cellphone, Email ect. Otherwise you face a certain extinction.

sangus
Apr 27, 2009 at 3:50 p.m.
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Also onehappygma,

The paper is thinner on some days because advertsing is down. The amount of news has remained steady.
As for the cost, we have not raised the home delivery price in four years. We last increased the single copy price in 2006. And effective today, we have lowered the single copy price to 50 cents for a limited time.

Scott Angus

sangus
Apr 27, 2009 at 3:44 p.m.
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onehappygma,

Not true. If news happens after 6 p.m., we are better staffed than ever to gather the information and post the basics on our Latest News blog immediately.

Scott Angus

onehappygma
Apr 27, 2009 at 3:33 p.m.
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If news happens after 6pm You won't read it till Wed. morning. The paper has gotten smaller and the price higher. I understand you have employees to pay. Times are tough people have to cut back the paper is one of those things.

kiowamohican
Apr 27, 2009 at 3:30 p.m.
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Here's a pretty good story about the nation wide decline of newspaper circulation from today's on-line version of the Wall Street Journal (story is also in the print version):
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Ne...

windsor
Apr 27, 2009 at 3:16 p.m.
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GazetteXtra.com is now the official site for yesterday's news.

mooser
Apr 27, 2009 at 3:13 p.m.
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We just got our first Walworth County addition and it is useles! I see no change other than having Darien spilled out on front page, go back to the drawing board!

anotheropinion
Apr 27, 2009 at 3:08 p.m.
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If you really wanted to boost circulation, you would transition to an all advertising supported publication. Americans continue to vote with their pocketbooks, they want access to timely and free information. Slowing down the posting to the internet site just drives people elsewhere. Better yet, free online advertising supported, you have to pay if you want a printed copy.

hiredgun
Apr 27, 2009 at 2:35 p.m.
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I trust that the Gazette management is doing everything it can to ensure that the Gazette remains in business. There are far too many smaller cities throughout the country that have seen their local newspapers die off. I hope that the Gazette staff is able to keep that from happening here.

CallitasIseeit
Apr 27, 2009 at 2:34 p.m.
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Fifteen minutes to get to the sound off page Hannah? You must be on dial up. And if you double click on an article in the e-edition it comes up larger.

Gandalf
Apr 27, 2009 at 2:17 p.m.
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I think this is a sound policy on the part of the Gazette. I also think the e-Edition is much better than it used to be. It's a viable alternative for people who are elsewhere and want to still read the entire Gazette in a timely manner. It's well worth the subscription price.

janesvillean
Apr 27, 2009 at 1:44 p.m.
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It's great that there's a conversation about this taking place between the Gazette and its readers (of whom subscribers are only a subset). Keep in mind this is something the entire industry is struggling with, and mostly losing by a thousand cuts. The advent of eBay and Craigslist and Monster.com has obliterated what used to be a major revenue stream supporting local journalism. A lot of smart people are thinking and talking about this, and they mostly believe that print newspapers are going to go away almost completely. The recession is hastening the demise of some prominent but economically marginal properties. It's a tsunami, and most of the people in charge were trained for a different era of technology challenges. I don't envy Scott Angus for having to make these tough choices, and I really hope that it helps the Gazette stay alive longer.

hannah
Apr 27, 2009 at 1:27 p.m.
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you can also view the "sales" online with who ever puts them out. example a kohls flier . you can pull up kohls and see weekly ad and print coupon if any.
dont think this works for the COUPONS section for sunday paper. but then you could goto the manufactor for those coupon or other sites as explained in an article form the gazette about a coupon cutting lady.

hannah
Apr 27, 2009 at 1:20 p.m.
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here is an example- the murder that took place at 9 am. well you wont get to read about it till the next day in the paper edition and according to scoot angus it may be online before that. so really it shouldnt be online either until the next day.

wclo- " a murder has taken place today at 9 am" " read all about it in the TOMORROWS edition of the gazette"

hannah
Apr 27, 2009 at 1:17 p.m.
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new improved e edition- has it gotton better since you improved it. takes FOREVER to load a page WHEN it is "responding" it took me 15 minutes to page to the soundoff page W/O reading anyof it.

hannah
Apr 27, 2009 at 1:15 p.m.
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okay if news happens after 6 am on monday. the paper edition wont have it in there till tues am after we already heard it on wclo or read it on the gazetteextra. I dont understand why i would buy a paper that wont have todays news in it till tomorrow.

newsreader
Apr 27, 2009 at 1:12 p.m.
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I agree with jville123 and others with regard to the print edition. I no longer live in town, but like to keep up with the local news. The print edition is useless to me and the E-Edition is hard to read.

What about having an expanded on-line edition for a fee, with the option of having the paper copy go to Newspapers in Education, Nursing Homes, Homeless Shelters, etc.? I would gladly pay $9/month for a complete online version that looks similar to the current free version. You could even have a section with the ads, since I sometimes look through those (just as I SOMETIMES did in the print edition).

denweb
Apr 27, 2009 at 1:10 p.m.
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sounds like it is still a struggle to get with the 21st century for the Gazette powers to be....

jville123
Apr 27, 2009 at 12:55 p.m.
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I actually bought the Sunday paper for a while because I wanted the full online version, not because I wanted the actual Gazette. I was so disappointed in the online version (it was like looking at a photocopy of the paper - or microfiche - but tiny and hard to enlarge) that I ended my subscription. If the "subscribers only" online version looked like the free version, but with EVERYTHING that's in print -- I would probably subscribe to it again. But for now I'll just have to get my news later, or from some other sources.

Zoom
Apr 27, 2009 at 12:48 p.m.
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"The cost of the Sunday print paper plus the daily E-Edition is $8.95 per month."

For those that want the e-edition only, that's still a bargain. You don't have to recycle a daily paper, and can easily save more than $8.95 per month using the Sunday coupons.

CallitasIseeit
Apr 27, 2009 at 11:55 a.m.
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So for $.29 a day you can get the Sunday paper and E-edition online. Sounds like a bargain to me. If you don't want to actually get the Sunday paper find an elderly neighbor who can't afford it and drop it on their stoop. Win/win for everyone.

bobb1951
Apr 27, 2009 at 10:45 a.m.
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If your fortunate to be employed(working days) and you subscribe to gazette,maybe your paper does not arrive for you to read till after work.How does this help you when you can read online in late afternons?I really enjoy online version,and wish i could subscribe.

sangus
Apr 27, 2009 at 10:19 a.m.
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For those wondering about digital access to the Gazette, the E-Edition is available at no extra cost to subscribers. Your access matches your print subscription. You are allowed access to the same editions that you receive in print.

Additionally, the Gazette offers hybrid subscriptions. You must take at least the Sunday print edition. The cost of the Sunday print paper plus the daily E-Edition is $8.95 per month. Or you can get weekend print editions - Saturday and Sunday - plus the daily E-Edition for $9.95 per month. Click the E-Edition button in the upper right hand corner of this page for more information.

Scott Angus

sannio
Apr 27, 2009 at 10:18 a.m.
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Throttling a new technology to support an old technology never makes sense to me. It's like requiring brakemen on a train equipped with Westinghouse air brakes.

oldtimer
Apr 27, 2009 at 10:12 a.m.
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There are still a lot of people that do not have computers and like the paper delivered to their homes. The gazette is a great newspaper and I hope for them all the best.

jsvlparkergrad
Apr 27, 2009 at 10:10 a.m.
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I hope that there will still be some free access to the Gazette online in the future.
I live out of the country now, but I have many relatives still left in Janesville. Subscribing to the print edition is out of the question, because I probably wouldn't receive the paper for at least a week after it's mailed out, and I think the postage would be rather expensive.

Thank you for providing the service of the GazetteXtra that I now am able to receive.

localboysince1968
Apr 27, 2009 at 10:10 a.m.
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I also want just the full online version of the Gazette. I have had several conversations with Scott, and they are sooooooo resistant to offer it accept if you have the print edition subscription (???????). Just remember, you don't have to pick your laptop out of the bushes, or out of a puddle of water on your front porch. With a society that is mobile, the online works for most of us.

atj359
Apr 27, 2009 at 10:05 a.m.
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I would like to just have the Gazette online without having to get the paper, and I would be willing to pay for the full online version too.

thekid3477
Apr 27, 2009 at 9:56 a.m.
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'think it will help us slow or even stop the decline in print readership'

dont hold your breath mr angus. im guessin peeps will choose to save a penny and get the news a few hours later. or maybe even go as crazy as clicking on a dift website to read the news.

fool_on_the_hill
Apr 27, 2009 at 9:50 a.m.
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Of many possible options, your plan seems to be the most sensible approach. Best of luck, Gazette!

dhoflowe75
Apr 27, 2009 at 9:22 a.m.
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I agree with RUSerious on the way we should get to read the on line version. I will not pay extra for the paper when all I want to pay for is the on line version.

windsor
Apr 27, 2009 at 7:30 a.m.
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Makes sense from a business standpoint. If the news is really "breaking," Channel 3 will carry it anyway, so waiting til the afternoon for the local stuff should be fine.

pack
Apr 27, 2009 at 7:17 a.m.
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Makes sense. I enjoy the free edition due to the fact that we are retired and on a fixed income. When I get my news is when I get my news. I just really appreciate the fact that I can get my news online. Thanks Scott. Hope it all works out for the best!!

SarahB1
Apr 27, 2009 at 3:42 a.m.
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Oh, darn! I was hoping for fresh online news to keep me occupied when I can't sleep. You're always a step ahead of us, Scott Angus. Congratulations on the changeover anyway.

RUSerious
Apr 26, 2009 at 10:54 p.m.
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I sure understand, though I'd be lying if I didn't admit it wasn't disappointing-but I wish (as I believe others have) that the full online version, with no home delivery, could be paid for at a reasonably reduced price (subtracting actual costs of paper/delivery) available in the same timely manner as it has been. It would also keep my coffee table clutter free and my fingers ink-free. Like a 3-tiered system: Full paper and online version, paper-free version, and extremely basic online version.
Anyway-thanks for great reading so far.

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