here is a good one for you that I saw today WOW.

Okay the frontage road by woodmans/toysrus.
the guy was on the woodmans part of frontage road in the right turn only. He decides I guess to turn left instead. There is already a lady there going to turn left. Plus the other traffic on toysrus side is doing stuff like turning left/going straight. This stupid guy FLOORS the car cuts the lady off from turning left and turns left in front of her(from his turn right only lane). she may have been going straight though. It all happened so fast. I think she was going to go straight cause I had to wait for her before I could turn left from the toysrus side. yes this crap will kill people!! Ins I think not!! It was a pos 80's car.

Hwy 11 crosses Hwy 51 and Cty Rd G. Both of those intersections are abused heavily by truckers... red lights mean nothing to them.

All 5 intersections are not 90 degree connections. None of these are straight through design. It is obvious to me that this is the most outstanding fault for all, even though there may be other contributing features. I think this concern can be applied to several other dangerous intersections. Just look at a good mapping program or an aerial photo.

Coming into Janesville from Milton, I see first hand why there are so many accidents at Hwy 26 & Kettering.
The traffic rarely lets up on the gas coming into the 45 mph zone. They don't slow until they get to the stoplight at Kettering. They run the red on 26. I see alot of UW-Whitewater stickers in the back windows, but also, business vehicles and out of state cars.
The off-ramp from I90W is a disaster. Traffic is trying to get into the ahead lane to proceed on hwy 26 but many cars are trying to get into the turn lane for Kettering.
It seems too many are in too much of a hurry and driver consideration is rare.

I agree hooters if your watching where you are going it wouldnt be a problem. again putting the blame on others vs YUORSELF for not paying attention.

It seems the stop and go at post office is a little out of line to as you proceed north but you adjust the wheel and end up in the same correct lane.

hooters - yes, that takes sooo much effort to turn the wheel a little bit to make the transition at that point. Geez. Like I said, I see a lot of people that can make driving look difficult. You must be one of them.

Ha more roundabouts? NOT! Like the one at Menards .. so you have older ladies(this past Saturday afternoon) fail to acknowledge the yield sign while they are exiting the parking lot and we had already entered the roundabout and cut us off!! Didn't even look or slow down Its YIELD not drive like your the only one on the road! More roundabouts=more accidents I say! Just too many dumb drivers! Before all of you go off because I said older ladies, it is in this case in particular, not generalizing age groups!

Remember the bad accident on Center Ave. where the car ended up embedded in the True Value Hardware sign? I believe that accident was caused by bad road design. If your heading south on Center Ave., just after the intersection of Center & Nicholet St., there is divider in the center of the street. I've caught myself several times almost hitting that divider and there are black rubber marks on it that tells me other people have that same problem. It's like the roadway isn't lined up right there. Your going straight and then you have to jog over to the right in order to avoid that lane divider. It's almost like a ramp....and I dare say that car in the accident hit that divider which caused that terrible accident. The southbound lane doesn't line up straight like you think it would.

MILTON AVE./KETTERING STREET - I travel through this intersection several times during the day and each time someone runs a redlight! How hard would it be for the police to park off to one side and start to catch those that run through the redlights? Someone is going to be killed or hurt really bad if they don't do something. Traffic enters the city with speeds over 55 mph when it is supposed to be 45mph. They can't and don't stop because they are going so darn fast!

neweyes - if it was a bad intersection, then ALL drivers would be crashing there. It isn't the only intersection with accidents. You can't engineer a accident free intersection, because some idiot will crash there regardless. Hence, bad drivers are the reason for the accidents. The percentage of accidents will go up in the intersections listed due to volume. More traffic flowing there, will increase the presence of bad drivers statistically.

If it is only bad drivers that cause accidents, why are they all at that intersection? The infrastructure and volume of traffic most definately play a part.

There is no single cause to an accident. There are contributing factors. Poor driving and road design being among some of those factors. The Milton/Kettering intersection is a perfect example of how road design can contribute to an increased number of accidents. There is interstate traffic merging into a highly congested intersection with very little space to do so.

Roads don't cause accidents, bad infastructure planning doesn't cause accidents, bad drivers cause accidents. How is it that 95% percent of people using these intersections don't have an accident? Driving an automobile is one of the most simple things to do, yet I see a lot of people who make it look difficult. I see a lot of people here blaming other sources for the accidents, when the blame should be to the driver.

Most of the problem is the fact that *reckless endangerment* is a crime unless someone uses a motor vehicle to commit the act, then its "politically correct" and is gotten away with....Therefore, people keep committing it with impunity.....Also, politicians and other do-gooders often hype about what something-or-other "costs society" in dollars and otherwise, except when it comes to the costs of violence and illegal activity using motor-vehicles.
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News flash for you politicians: Motor-vehicle violence cost a lot more in real dollars than gun violence does...Everywhere.

Having taken numerous accident reports at those intersections the cause besides bad drivers.......DESIGN. The access roads were poorly designed back in the 70's for the volume of traffic.

Hmmm, shouldn't all intersections in Wisconsin be on this list for the mere fact that we have such an abundance of drunk drivers?

talk about a dangerous turn,when turn right from centerway onto court st.,theres an arrow to turn right,then the light turns green for the traffic coming at the same time you are turning,thats dangerous,no matter how much one yields.does anyone know what street section i mean?and dont you agree?

Roundabouts are great unless you are drunk and go over it instead of around it.

Gilly....

....the Hwy. 51 and Hwy. 11 intersection wasn't on the list because the article is refering to Janesville intersections and that one is not within the city limits.

That's all I got....could be wrong

I can't believe Hwy 51 (Center) and bypass 11 aren't on the list (by MacFarlanes Pheasant Farm), bad accidents there all the time, and bad ones.

I use 2 of these intersections VERY frequently. Holiday/Milton ave is incredibly dangeous primarily because of the volume and the un-clear Right of Way rule. The frontage Rd on the Culver's side creates a confusion about who's turn it really is. As a rule, I simply avoid this intersection ENTIRELY when at all possible. I'd rather sit at Holiday and Kennedy for 5 minutes waiting to get in than take my chances on Holiday/Milton ave.

Centereway/Court is a RIDICULOUS intersection. I sent in a complaint card on that green arrow once and was promptly ignored when I expressed my concern in person to the guy who called me about it. There are at least two combinations of red/green lights that the arrow could safely be green and allow you to go, but at those times it is red. When the traffic is coming down Milwaukee straight to court and has a green light, you get a green arrow. Why? Because 'there is a lane there for you' Yeah, a lane of about 9 yards! Because some engineer decided *that* was the rule the city refuses to consider changing the point at which it is green.

Lastly, ROUNDABOUTS ARE RIDICULOUS! If we all knew the rules of the road and if we could all follow them even just 90% of the time, the accidents would go down by half. But, no, our entire society (myself included!) Is incredibly selfish and self-centered. *I* have somewhere to be, *I* get to go even if there is someone nearby who may have the true right of way, *I* am going to go for it anyway and hope for the best!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, DO NOT PUT A ROUNDABOUT ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF JANESVILLE!!!

It's not the intersection that is dangerous, its drivers. Running red lights, talking on cell phones, having dogs sitting on their laps. If everyone just followed the rules of the road, everything would be fine.

There CAN'T be more accidents at Kettering and Milton Ave because everyone was assurred by the highly paid traffic consultants employed when Walmart was built that it wouldn't/couldn't happen.

The I-90 off ramp is the issue there because those folks NEVER, EVER, EVER yield to oncoming traffic.

roundabouts....

....the biggest problem with roundabouts in the US is that people do NOT want to give up the area that it takes to make them correctly. They are just too small for the given speed and volume that it's supposed to handle.

First time I saw a roundabout was in Australia while I was in the Navy...the thing was large enough that people actually had the time to move to the inner lanes safely, just like we're told we need to to make them work.

And they can work....if they are large enough.

Um...
If you see bad drivers "everywhere", and you have close-calls "everywhere" you go, then perhaps the true problem isn't "everyone else", and you should just get off the road.

Driving is a skill. We need law enforcement to crack down on poor drivers.
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We cannot lay the cause of accidents on roadway design or location.
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Accidents are caused by at least one person breaking the law or not paying attention.
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Law enforcement is what we need.

Regarding Milton Ave/Holiday Dr.: I agree that the frontage roads present a large safety issue. People want to get onto Holiday from the frontage road by Burger King and then turn left onto Milton Ave. Nearly impossible if there are more than 4 cars in the vicinity.

Same deal on the otherside of Milton Ave.: People want to get out of Lions Quick Mart onto Holiday and then turn onto Milton Ave.

Kettering and Milton Ave: I would guess it might have had something to do with the 400 construction barrels with yellow flashing lights on every one of them. So there are left turn lights, forward lights, two right turn lanes but one cannot turn right on red, and construction zone barrels/lights...all flashing. I haven't had a problem at that intersection, but I don't need to be in that area very often. I can see how it would be a tricky one, especially if just leaving a bar at bartime. relax. It was a joke. Combine that with two right turn lanes going one direction and two left turn lanes another. The lanes ARE marked, but I don't know that Janesville drivers have the attention span to remember which lane they are in if they have to wait for a green light and they have already passed under the sign. *sigh*

Finally, I'm on the same side as Pete. This afternoon I was tailgated on Parker Drive northbound from Centerway. Folks, the speed limit is 30 there, not the 35 that it becomes after the railroad viaduct. I had a truck right on my tail so I flashed my brakes, and he dashed around me -- only to zip up the Memorial ramp. I'm sure I cost him all of two seconds by going the speed limit ... well, a little closer to the speed limit than he wanted.
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Roundabouts, where they will fit, are demonstrably safer than standard intersections. They only have 8 conflict points instead of 32, reducing the amount of attention (head-spinning) a driver needs to do considerably. As long as you yield patiently until you have a sufficient gap there is very little that should worry you about a roundabout.
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That said, even I wouldn't say they will work everywhere. But I think Five Points could be a roundabout, if we took out part of the car wash and the unused triangles of the (closing?) Walgreen's and Campbell's. See, instead of having to choose the correct lane to be in, you just have to choose when to get off.

Pete - if you aren't competent enough to handle a roundabout you probably shouldn't be behind the wheel.

The main problem with Milton Ave and Kettering- Since the addition of the wonderful new WalMart, the intersection has gotten much busier. PLUS-- you have big rigs and other travelers exiting the Interstate trying to cross 3 lanes of traffic to turn left into Mulligans gas station. VERY scary!! It would be interesting to see the statistics on that intersection before and after the road changes that were made for WalMart.
Milton Ave/14 and 14/Deerfield- the main problem I run into is people continuing to turn left even when their light is red. It is like a pack mentality. If the person next to me and in front of me are doing it, I can do it to, I'll be ok. I often pull out as SOON as my light is green just to give those red light runners a little scare and maybe prevent them from doing it next time. YELLOW=slow down and RED=stop. GOT IT??????

BBB: Actually, the idea of roundabouts makes a lot of sense. They are confusing until people get used to them, then most people love them! I know I do! No stopping, just everyone cooperating to safely get to their turns.

The answer to all these problems is roundabouts. Now that is a joke.

I would have to agree that the high volume of traffic at these intersections has the most to do with it. Those are the busiest intersections in the city. Turning onto Court from Centerway is very misleading with that green arrow. I remember the first time I went that way. You assume that because you have a green arrow that you have the right-of-way, but the lane you turn into is very short. Milton Ave at Humes and Milton Ave at Holiday don't strike me as particularly dangerous. Maybe Frontage Rd is to blame at Holiday.

I see a lot of people running red lights.
speeding, not paying attention. Those are BIG intersections with a lot going on. PAY ATTENTION and youll get there WHEN it is your turn. No need to run the reds!!

Also when 2 lanes turn in the same direction STAY IN YOUR OWN DARN LANE DUH! you would be killed in a big city !! We only have a few here.
I saw a semi at milton av and 14 do a U TURN!
That is dangerous!! not to mention illegal!!

center and court- do you mean 5 points area?

i dont like the green arrow when coming from centerway onto Court. It seems the arrow doesnt really give you the right of way. I have turned there before on green arrow and still look before doing so and traffic is coming. WILL they stay in their OWN lane doubt it so have to wait on MY green arrow or be run down by morons who cannot follow their OWN lane.

I was on milton av once and I was going threw the yellow only to be honked at by the person turning wanting to go first. Sorry youll have to wait I am going straight and have the right away DONT honk at me cause youre in the middle of the road and shouldnt be because there isnt TIME for you to go!!! They still went after me ON RED!! Could this be WHY accidents occur????

And no it was yellow WHEN I was going threw not yellow before and no space to stop for the yellow.

Traffic volume would be my answer. That and the fact every time the arrow going into Pine tree Plaza turns red three more cars go through the red light. Gotta get to Pier One Imports!!

I'm curious how many of those accidents involved folks from out of town who might not be as familiar with the intersections.
If you don't know from experience which lane is a turn and which is a straight-a-way... or both... it's difficult to plan your lane change early enough.
Plus, if someone cuts their turn short and drifts into the next lane, there'll be a problem.