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Posted on May 30 at 8:10 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

916WI said, "Sorry about the miscommunication with the second part of your post. I didn't realize you were completely void of common sense. When someone is speaking of an out of state student not paying taxes in the state where they are receiving their education..."

Cougarballer5 never spoke of an out of state student not paying taxes in the state where they are receiving their education. There you go again. How many times is that in just this one thread that you've put words in the mouths of other people?

And the "pesky laws" comment had nothing to do with the quirk in campaign financing. That comment was addressing a totally different subject and was made in a different article. You're the person who took my quote, re-worded it to fit your purpose and then tried relating it to the issue of this quirk in campaign financing.

Every comment of yours just becomes more and more disingenuous. I'm quite surprised you made it this far into the discussion before unleashing the personal insults. Hopefully you're learning to keep your equanimity under fire.

Here's five derogatory comments you made about me that were recently deleted in just one single day. I very much recall these comments as I was the named target.

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On Recall Election – 1 week from today and counting!

Posted on May 30 at 6:59 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

"Republican super PACs and other outside groups shaped by a loose network of prominent conservatives – including Karl Rove, the Koch brothers and Tom Donohue of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce – plan to spend roughly $1 billion on November’s elections for the White House and control of Congress, according to officials familiar with the groups’ internal operations.

That total includes previously undisclosed plans for newly aggressive spending by the Koch brothers, who are steering funding to build sophisticated, county-by-county operations in key states. POLITICO has learned that Koch-related organizations plan to spend about $400 million ahead of the 2012 elections - twice what they had been expected to commit." [ http://www.politico.com/news/stories/051... ]

On Walker transfers $100,000 to legal defense fund

Posted on May 30 at 6:58 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

"Republican super PACs and other outside groups shaped by a loose network of prominent conservatives – including Karl Rove, the Koch brothers and Tom Donohue of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce – plan to spend roughly $1 billion on November’s elections for the White House and control of Congress, according to officials familiar with the groups’ internal operations.

That total includes previously undisclosed plans for newly aggressive spending by the Koch brothers, who are steering funding to build sophisticated, county-by-county operations in key states. POLITICO has learned that Koch-related organizations plan to spend about $400 million ahead of the 2012 elections - twice what they had been expected to commit." [ http://www.politico.com/news/stories/051... ]

On Walker transfers $100,000 to legal defense fund

Posted on May 30 at 6:20 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Speaking of former Republican Senator Alan Simpson...have you read his latest? Excerpt from [ http://www.presstv.com/usdetail/243558.h... ] follows:

Former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.) lashed out at members of his party on Sunday, slamming them for their unwillingness to compromise on proposed tax increases.

In his characteristically colorful style, Simpson told CNN's Fareed Zakaria that Republicans' rigid opposition to new tax revenues has hampered productivity and diminished the chances of reaching an agreement with Democrats on debt reduction.

"You can't cut spending your way out of this hole," Simpson, who was appointed as co-chair of President Obama's Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform in 2010, said. "You can't grow your way out of this hole, and you can't tax your way out of this hole. So put that in your pipe and smoke it, we tell these people. This is madness."

On Recall Election – 1 week from today and counting!

Posted on May 30 at 5:54 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

jerseyboy, as you said, it certainly does stand up to recent Supreme Court rulings. That is why the state legislature and governor must act to correct it. Democrat Rep. Roys authored a bill to correct it. It was killed by the Republican controlled Senate in Joint Resolution 1.

And, of course, the law in question being repealed has nothing to do with the way in which unions, corporations and individuals funnel money into political action committees. That would continue, unfortunately, despite repeal of the law in question.

On Recall Election – 1 week from today and counting!

Posted on May 30 at 5:20 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

916WI said, "What exactly is the "quirk"(or law to the normal person) that you want to remove? Be specific. It sounds like you don't have a problem with the unlimited contributions, but only have a problem in the timeframe they are collected?"

You're again putting words in my mouth. I never suggested I was OK with unlimited contributions and never mentioned anything about a timeframe I had a problem with. I am very opposed to unlimited contributions. If you've read my previous comments on the subject, I am for removing all private money from politics. That includes individual, corporate, union, etc. money. My solution to this immediate concern is the assembly bill that I cited earlier that was authored by Rep. Roys. Assembly Bill 296 (2011). It applies the standard limitations to recall elections. As I said, the bill died in the Republican controlled Senate.

916WI said, "Are you not able to read? He specifically mentions an "out of state student" who "pays no state taxes".......What do you think he meant--an "out of state student" who has a permanent residence in the state but doesn't pay taxes here because he files them out of state!?!?"

cougarballer5 said, "They pay no state taxes." You said that cougarballer5 said they, "filed their income taxes in another state." It's quite clear to me what courgarballer5 said -- "They pay NO state taxes." Your misrepresentation of what cougarballer5 said is typical of how you twist words to suit your argument. I'm not going to assume to know what someone "meant." You need to stop putting words into the mouths of other people based on what you "think" they "meant."

On Recall Election – 1 week from today and counting!

Posted on May 30 at 3:38 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

916WI said, "Are you seriously saying that the law stating "unlimited contributions" actually means "limited contributions"??:)"

Will you please show me just exactly where I said that? You keep putting words in other people's mouths to create a situation for you to find some fault with something you yourself said! Unbelievable. And I suggest you re-read state statute 11.26. You will find that your quoted phrase "unlimited contributions" never appears there.

One way in which Walker and his cronies manipulated the quirk in this law was by having a Walker supporter, David Brandt, file the FIRST recall registration against Walker. This enabled Walker to beging to raise money immediately. Of course, Brandt withdrew his registration days prior to the deadline for turning in his petitions. A bill (2011 A.B. 296) was introduced by Democrat Rep. Helda Roys to make limits apply to recall elections and remove this quirk. It died under the Republican controlled Senate's Joint Resolution 1. Big surprise, isn't it?

916WI said, "The really funny thing is when another poster raised a question about the resident of another state, who filed their income taxes in another state and who had their permanent residence in another state, asked why they should have the right to vote in a WI election, you got all puffy chested and came up with this gem..."

That is not at all what another poster said. The other poster, cougarballer5, specifically asked, in entireity, "@Mouse, why should an out of state college student be allowed to vote in a Wisconsin election? They pay no state taxes. An in-state student doesn't need an absentee ballot, they can vote in their hometown that is mostly likely their permanent address anyway. Way to think that comment through."

As you can see, cougarballer5 never said anything about them filing their income taxes in another state or anything about the state of their permanent, or transient, residence. When are you going to quit putting words in the mouths of other people?

On Walker transfers $100,000 to legal defense fund

Posted on May 30 at 1:29 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

$160,000 dollars is an awful lot of money to pay lawyers to help you "cooperate" with criminal investigators. It seems that the cost of cooperation is directly proportional to the probability of criminal behavior.

On Wis. TV group opposes posting political-ad data

Posted on May 30 at 1:21 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I'm glad to see so many people agree that more transparency and increased access is a GOOD THING!

On Recall Election – 1 week from today and counting!

Posted on May 30 at 1:04 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Third_Eye said, "So the Democrat legislature and Governor that passed this law was not credible?"

I will take at face value that your statement that a Democrat legislature and Governor passed this law is correct, but I have not researched the passage of the relevant laws to know that is true for myself. That said, quirks in the law result from laws either overlapping with other laws and leave gaps between themselves and other laws -- hence the term quirk. Quirks in laws are called quirks because their effect was unintentional.

Democrats, indeed, will be the ones to fix the quirk, because Walker and his surrogates surely have no incentive to do so.