On Were politics behind Chrysler’s Eastwood ad?
Posted on February 9 at 11:33 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
"Most curious is whether the ad is propaganda to "sell" the righteousness of past bailouts (they) or whether it is propaganda to soften Americans (we) to similar planned government initiatives in the future."
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I would say a bit of BOTH!
However; more so to the 1st part of your query...(To justify the past bailouts)... As MANY Americans are still very upset over that. From what I have gathered, much of the 'success' with GM and Chrysler is from expanding international sales, and not domestic. Many Americans still have the: SCREW YOU mood toward buying a Government Motors, or Chrysler Republic vehicle. I forgot to mention in my last posting, that also a TON of local dealerships got HOSED by the governmnet take over. The governmnet now loves to propagandize all the 'success' of their noble actions, conveniently forgetting to mention the millions who got SCREWED who held bonds, worked or owned a local dealership, ext.
If the international market takes a hit, I suspect both GM and Chrysler will be right back where they were a few years ago...In the heavy red.....
That is when the 2nd part of your proposal (propaganda to soften Americans (we) to similar planned government initiatives in the future) will then come into play!
On Were politics behind Chrysler’s Eastwood ad?
Posted on February 9 at 1:08 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I don't know if it was intended to be political, but it sure came off like it. Nonetheless. I thought the ad was well done. It was similar to the old Reagan campaign ads, that made you feel good about America, and it's future. The fact Eastwood is a GREAT orator (much like Reagan was) gave it that great effect!
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That said, the bailouts can NOT ever be justified, if you are one who supports true liberty, and is against the big industry-government oligarchy. If normal bankruptcy would have been allowed to proceeded, they would have done just as good when they became restructured-rebuilt. People have this notion that bankruptcy means you are flat out done-out of business for good. Often it just means you restructure you company-debt-and leadership. That is exactly what the autos ended up doing, but it was via governmnet planers, and not normal market conditions, which is how bankruptcy court works when companies go under.
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What is NEVER talked about in all this 'success' now, is the fact that MILLIONS of Americans got screwed in the governmnet take over, if they held GM bonds. I am amazed just talking to neighbors, and locals, of how many around here held GM BONDS (NOT stock)...When you file bankruptcy, bond holders are one of thee 1st in line to get paid. When the governmnet took over, all the bond holders just got kicked to the curb, and lost out on almost everything! The actions the governmnet took toward the bond holders upon take over were illegal by any established legal precedent, and borderline criminal.
On Wisconsin teachers union endorses Falk
Posted on February 9 at 12:52 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Great post vato!
Could have not said it better in 3 words!
On Wisconsin teachers union endorses Falk
Posted on February 9 at 12:48 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
fear&rhetoric:
Yes, you are right on in the assessment. It's amazing how the true believers in both parties can all be in a room together, and they come to this warm and fuzzy feeling that everyone in there is just like they are, and will obviously vote for their candidate. So often they do not at all analyze the situation UNBIASED, and look at the WHOLE picture. Just as the GOP has done with Romney, the Dems have done the same here...Put their backing behind someone who has ZERO, ZIP, NADA, NO CHANCE of beating the incumbent. If you are a Walker supporter, you should be CHEERING at this idiotic move. Just as if you like Obama, you should be loving that Romney and Gingrich are the supposed two horses left (debatable after last night).
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It's funny how often people are clueless to the WHOLE picture. All the people that YOU associate with, is FAR from what the opinion, and vote of the public as a whole will cast. The hard core dems will vote for anyone up against Walker. They need swing voters to win. Fauk will get hardly ANY of the independent, or swing voters. It will be a total blood bath. It will make all the work of the people who did the recall look like the biggest waste ever.
On Obama’s assault on the poor
Posted on February 9 at 12:34 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Ez:
Unfortunately Paul probably stands little chance because of the fact he does not have the looks, and charm, that are needed in today's age to become POTUS. Nonetheless, I will take someone who is RIGHT on principal issues, and who had held CONSISTENT positions all his life, over the current batch of well dressed, good looking charlatans, who change positions with the political winds, and just rehash the same popular, garbage talking points, over and over. I'm no Santorum fan, but at least voters woke up to the fact that both Romney and Gingrich are the two biggest phonies the party has ever seen, who would both be CRUSHED by Obama in November.
Posted on February 8 at 3:55 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
The "Donald" endorses Romney.
After the endorsement, Romney is SMASHED in CO, MN, & MO.
Can you you say the ANTI endorsement effect that someone here mentioned!
On Obama’s assault on the poor
Posted on February 8 at 3:45 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Ezoner:
Actually it is RON PAUL who has it correct.
His address to supports after tonight's results in MN, about the poor, and that governmnet creates MORE, poor, and that LIBERTY is the essential key to prosperity FOR ALL, is DEAD ON!
http://www.c-span.org/Campaign2012/Ron-P...
WELL SAID DR PAUL!
SPOT ON!!
On Obama’s assault on the poor
Posted on February 8 at 3:40 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Sad to see you leave NVgrf.
Your precious 'improving' unemployment numbers are largely based from vast numbers leaving the labor force, because they have given up all hope. Nonetheless, you can paint numbers any way your political belief wants. You are correct though, that Obama will most likely win in November. The GOP somewhat seemed to figure that out tonight, and voted for Santorum in a landslide. Of course Santrorum, or Ron Paul are the only ones left running who would have a shot vs Obama, as both Romney and Gingrich are beyond atrocious, and totally unelectable.
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Hope you read this before you leave for good. Since you are in NV, my advice would be to bet heavy on Obama. The GOP establishment still has all their power brokers behind Romney. It will be funny to see their faces when he gets SMASHED by Obama.
On WONDER DOG! Dog’s are truly humankind’s BEST friend!!
Posted on February 8 at 3:26 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Most all budgets are based on 'fuzzy math,' or shady accounting principals. That extends from local budgets, to state budgets, to the federal budget, and to publicly traded business. Clinton's surpluses in the 90's were also largely from accounting games. Doyles budgets were largely based off gimmicks to.
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Point is: all the anti Walker people seem to JUST NOW have figured out the sham of accounting practices. They conveniently seemed to miss it when one of their chosen people was in office.
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On Were politics behind Chrysler’s Eastwood ad?
Posted on February 9 at 11:43 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Also keep in mind that the 'great American'-governmnet bailed out Chrysler, is now something like 60% owned by the great American FIAT (Fix It Again Tony) out of Italy...So "we" pulling together in the 2nd half, I guess includes the bankrupt Italians!