On Obama says he will not rush Afghanistan decision
Posted on November 22 at 8:43 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
An astute self-assessment, RetiredAirForce. I couldn't have described your posts' content better myself.
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No, BunBun, I don't need you to source the fictional "42" gag that has become part of popular culture. While you've rightfully concluded that I believe what I post, rather than post for the sake of irritating others, I can't come to that conclusion in your case.
On Obama says he will not rush Afghanistan decision
Posted on November 22 at 7:31 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
"It sure looks like a demand for a source to me."
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A word, followed by a question mark, is now a "demand"? Sorry, but when you're asked, "Source?", it's a simple question. Odd you're making such a fuss over such a simple question. Funny how I pointed out that you can't provide a source, and so instead you're dodging...precisely what you're doing here.
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"It sure looks like you are projecting."
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Really? How am I "projecting", again, when the initial claim, "I hope someone got the joke or we are in more trouble than I thought", was YOURS? Is it really that hard for you to remember your own points of contention?
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"unless I am now posting under your 'Nom de clavier'."
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No, you're just willfully ignorant. Perhaps if you used your brain, you wouldn't embarrass yourself.
On Stupak Amendment is an insult to women
Posted on November 22 at 12:37 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
dub190 - "I am talking about the victim, the baby."
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Aborted fetuses are not babies.
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"Comparing me to the firefighter, would entail I asked you if you wanted to be aborted."
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No. I'm not sure how you don't understand a firefighter and a doctor are both professionals who recieve government funding to do their jobs.
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"In essence comparing you to the baby."
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...What? No. In essence comparing the fact that a firefighter and a doctor are both professionals who receive government funding to do their jobs.
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"Funny how you compared it though, a fire and a shootout both are situations most people would hate to be in."
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Even firefighters and law officials. And yet they do it.
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"Just like killing a baby."
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You mean fetus. And, yes, it would be regrettable to end that potential as a result of a difficult decision. However, it is often necessary, and fortunately, when done at the proper time, no independent and developed life is taken.
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"Just like you know women don't admit it is because they are ASHAMED. THEY KNOW IT'S WRONG. Like I said It takes a real idiot to not see that...It is wrong. Women know it, that's why they're embarrassed and ashamed."
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Yes, this sure doesn't aid in my theory about how some women might keep it to themselves out of weariness of people like you whose sense of "morality" dictates an "us versus them" mentality. They really don't need to justify their difficult legal medical decisions to people who will verbally berate them about how wrong they are. Thanks for proving me wrong.
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"Almost ALL of the examples you stated, are embarrassing."
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Yes, things that are your personal and private business are often embarrassing to share publicly. We're societally programmed to feel shame in regards to such issues. That doesn't make it wrong to seek medical attention for it, as it's often necessary to do for many different people, for many different reasons.
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"To say a baby in the womb is 'scientifically' not a human being is not true. Where is the evidence that proves that?"
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A human being is a developed, birthed individual capable of independent life. A fetus is neither developed, or separate from the mother's body.
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"If it's not a human, then what is a baby in the womb? And don't say a fetus."
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What is the force that causes unsupported objects to fall to the ground? And don't say gravity.
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"I am talking about Medicare and Medicaid."
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You do realize our nation's healthcare spending incorporates more than Medicare and Medicaid, right?
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"funny how you act like it's a BUSH policy or something."
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Funny you've made a delusional allegation.
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"I don't have an appointed bureaucrat...between me and my doctor. I never will."
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I thought you said you had insurance.
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"after reading a ton of your posts "
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Thats an unfortunate admission on your part...
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"Princeton link: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
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Your aversion to credibility and derision of higher education: not surprising!
On Stupak Amendment is an insult to women
Posted on November 22 at 12:37 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
2dognight - "Pro-choice people will kill their children and therefore--problem solved."
Oh?
And did you know that all priests molest children? Or that AIDS is a gay disease?
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truth1 - how convenient of you to omit my qualifier that the doctor was SOUGHT OUT to perform her job; that maxdetail's daughter was not abducted or forced upon by this doctor. You attempt to ridicule my logic, but it requires you to display a willful ignorance on your part to achieve. Congratulations.
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maxdetail - "we're both being childish so I'll have to ease up."
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"You keep fighting to save kittens, I'll keep fighting to save babies", only exemplifies my previous assertion that you dont even recognize the hypocrite that lives under your charades.
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"brain damaged (adult) daughter"
Unfortunate, yet still requires your or a guardian's transportation to Madison, and consent.
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"Other than what I've shared, it's none of your damned business."
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As it contradicts your holier-than-thou soapboxing about the "murder of babies", I'd say it's of some concern to the topic at hand. It's important to know that you don't walk it the way you talk it.
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leesbunny - "It does stop the rest of us from paying for it."
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Your federal taxes are already prohibited from paying for abortion.
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"people who truly need it in this country will always receive it."
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Not if you can't afford it.
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"I am against all of the freebies that the government hands out to lazy good for nothings."
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And those are truly the only people who receive government assistance; "lazy good for nothings". They're not a slim fraction that doesn't represent its whole at all. They're the entirety.
On Stupak Amendment is an insult to women
Posted on November 22 at 12:20 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
"I treated her the way she wanted to be treated."
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I do believe it's 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you', not 'do unto others as they do unto you.'
Such a bastardization of the Golden Rule on the part of maxdetail shows just how desperate and he is to feel justified within his own convoluted and hypocritical ideology.
On Obama says he will not rush Afghanistan decision
Posted on November 22 at 12:09 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
"your postings approach the level of being troll-like"
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Your biased opinion, not supported by facts.
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"I conclude that you may believe what you post"
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I hope you didn't spend too long on that obvious conclusion.
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"I see that, according to you, proper grammar trumps the lack of substance in your arguments."
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"According" to me? Quote me.
Since you've yet to prove that my posts lack substance, I'll point out that this is again your own biased opinion, unsupported by facts.
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"I would honestly like to know if you have berated others here for spelling and grammar mistakes?"
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Would an example of that be your condescension regarding the preposition myth?
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"If posting on a message board is not an excersise in formal writing then we can dispense with the petty flaming I have seen from others here for errors in spelling."
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We can. Can we include petty grammar corrections involving antiquated preposition myths, too?
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"As for me refering to you as 'humorless', it seems to be fitting."
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Again? Yes. Biased opinion, not supported by facts.
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"You give the impression of being angry about anyone who does not immediately post some kind of 'wow, great post' whenever you choose to drop some pearls of wisdom."
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Quote me where I've given such an impression. I hardly expect the confused, illogical, or even blatant liars who I rebut here with reason and evidence to congratulate me on doing so.
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"Perhaps I had too much confidence in my fellow citizens to make the connection with "Gen Pershing" and "driving the Hun out of the low countries" with WW1."
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Your correlation was not Gen Pershing and the Germans with WWI (how can that "connection" NOT be made when Pershing's engagement with the Germans was DURING WWI?), but rather of Gen Pershing and the Germans to Obama and Afghanistan. A correlation you still fail to explain, while continuing displays of arrogance.
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"My concern is not that you don't get the joke but that you demanded that I provide a source."
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No such demand has been made. You've merely been asked to explain how Gen Pershing engaging the Germans has any correlation to Obama and Afghanistan. Which you can't, and so you dodge.
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"Now we get to your apparent belief that I am an alternate version of RAF."
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Nice assumption. It is incorrect, as I've made clear that I don't have an opinion either way, nor care who you are; I merely observe the convenient similarities when they arise.
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"would you please explain how any joke I make would '.. dictate the fate of a collective people'"
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That claim was made by you, so you'll have to explain it to yourself.
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"I sure must have quite a bit of influence."
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I'm sure you believe that.
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"I don't believe any of my statements have given an indication of which way O should proceede on A-stan"
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I don't believe I've claimed they have.
On Obama says he will not rush Afghanistan decision
Posted on November 22 at noon ( Suggest removal )
pharm, it's no use. RetiredAirForce is lacking the mental capacity to understand that the fact that Mullen and Petraeus are "involved" doesn't trump the fact that neither had performed their review of the request at the time, and so had not passed it along in the chain of command, meaning Obama received his copy of the request before it had been scrubbed through CentCom and the Pentagon. Something RetiredAirForce claims "always" happens in the same order, despite contradicting himself that the chain of command can be skipped around due to phone calls, etc. All of this is a result of the aforementioned lack in RetiredAirForce's mental capacity, as it's all just conjecture on his part; all just opinion stated as fact, without any backing substance. His continued denials only exemplify my assertions about him.
On Stupak Amendment is an insult to women
Posted on November 19 at 9:21 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Actually maxdetail, I'd rather you just answer my simple questions: when speaking of not knowing who paid for your "child-like" daughter's potentially life-saving abortion (and thus admitting you failed to take personal responsibility), are you referring to the procedure that was performed by a doctor who was sought out and which would have required your or a guardian of your daughter's consent? Applying your logic, does this not make your daughter and you/her guardian (and specify which is the case, if you could) complicit and guilty in that "baby murder"? Help me understand how the blame rests solely with the doctor who was given consent to perform her job.
On Stupak Amendment is an insult to women
Posted on November 19 at 9:19 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
"WOULD YOU PERFORM ONE? If not, why?"
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No; I am not a doctor. That's why it's legal; so they're regulated and so women aren't performing them themselves, or worse.
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"Funny how NO ONE answered that one..."
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Funny how it doesn't actually serve a point. I might as well ask you if you'd run into a burning building since your taxes pay for firefighters, or if you'd risk your life in a shootout since your taxes pay for law enforcement. I guess you haven't taken the time to "wrap your mind around" that one, huh?
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"Save the...uninsured and lazy, and terrorists"
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Speaking of the lazy, those false examples are just a lazy appeal to ridicule on your part. There's no campaign to "save" any of those, and such nonsense claims only weaken your already rhetorically fallacious arguments.
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"Hypocrisy in the fullest."
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It's not hypocrisy at all to simultaneously support the environment and abortion. If you don't understand the logical basis behind an action, don't pretend you do. You might think it makes you look strong or confident to flippantly dismiss something you're entirely ignorant about, but it really just cheapens you.
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"HOW COME WOMEN DON'T TELL ANYONE WHEN THEY'VE HAD AN ABORTION?"
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Because medical procedures/conditions are private personal business? How come people don't tell anyone when they've had a colonoscopy? How come women don't tell anyone when they've had a mammogram? How come men don't tell anyone they're being treated for impotency? How come people don't tell anyone when they have hemorrhoids, or a rash? You ask a lot of questions, but you've obviously not put much thought into any of them.
I'm sure some women also keep it to themselves out of weariness of people like you whose sense of "morality" dictates an "us versus them" mentality. They really don't need to justify their difficult legal medical decisions to people who will verbally berate them about how wrong they are or how they face eternal damnation.
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"And yes, **PanamaRed**, it is wrong for the government to make me pay for killing a living human being."
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A partially developed fetus is scientifically and legally (not a coincidence) not a human being. It merely has the potential to become one.
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"Totally screwed up and way way over any estimated budget or forecast."
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Are you describing our nation's current level of healthcare spending, under a system you approve of? Because you'd be accurate, if so.
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"Do you really want a bureaucrat between you and your Doctor?"
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You say that like that's not the case already.
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On Obama says he will not rush Afghanistan decision
Posted on November 22 at 9:15 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
"I have researched the preposition rules and you are correct..."
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Should've just stopped typing there.
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"So you can be justifiably proud of your efforts which I belittled." You then oddly continue to belittle by stating, "You are a 'word smiff' worthy of praise along sides Emenem and Larry the Cable Guy." I guess if that's the qualifier someone of your character feels necessary to tack onto an admission of an error... A true feat to mock someone immediately after admitting you were wrong.
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"btw, do I detect a missing comma in that quote?"
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Not unless you like to add superfluous commas.
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"Nope, guess I was wrong, no condescension there...you play the gramar Nazi."
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Yes, because an illegible sentence is comparable to a sentence ending in a preposition... One deserves condescension if one can't even type a cogent thought in an attempt to insult someone else.
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"Ha, to quote you in short – your opinion."
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Only, I didn't actually state one there.
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"I promise you that if you should succeed in posting anything containing a hint of reason or evidence, I shall congratulate you."
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You shall be a liar, actually, until you offer that congratulations, as I've offered reasoning and evidences in numerous posts, here and elsewhere. Your willful ignorance of them doesn't change that.
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"You demand that people quote you so much that they get tired of typing and they give up, giving the impression that you have prevailed in your arguments."
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I simply ask for people to quote me in order to prove their unsubstantiated accusations about me, which never are substantiated despite how seemingly tireless people are in typing anything but the quote just to be able to avoid having to do so, which proves that I've prevailed in rebutting their nonsense.