On Man wants change in chicken ordinance

Posted on November 20 at 9 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

My chickens do just fine in an unheated shed-style coop. Keep them dry, out of the wind, and a basic enclosure and they do just fine. Carry out heated water twice a day for warm drinks. Really no more complicated than a dog in a doghouse.

On Stupak Amendment is an insult to women

Posted on November 20 at 8:55 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

Wait a second- how did i get called pro-choice? Max, I made an argument to HOLD ALL FETUSES EQUAL. A fetus is not deciding how it gets conceived- rape or incest... so if a fetus is a person killing ANY OF THEm is murder, yes?
How would a person that dies in a closet be different fom a person who dies in the womb> You asked me when is it OK to kill a baby- I say never, SO if you say a fetus is a baby, then NONE should be electively killed.
Along that line, most birthcontrol should be illegal, and women who have an obrtion should be prosecuted for first degree murder- premiditated. Right?
Remember, you made the argument a fetus is a baby So why does a fetus of incest have the right to be killed while a fetus of a one stand deserve to live?

On Family Size: When to Say When?

Posted on November 20 at 8:38 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

Oh, and i come from a big family, some were conceived when my dad was laid off. I can't imagine life without my brothers and sisters. We are all totally different but we all love and care for each other.
My parents now live for the holidays and you see the joy in their faces when we are all in the room together with grandchildren. I think this keeps them warmer than a huge retirement fund- they always have us to turn to for help.

On Family Size: When to Say When?

Posted on November 20 at 8:36 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

Good luck on that one. The surest way to make God laugh is to tell her your plans.
I know a woman in Evansville, a sweet, hardworking friend of mine, who lost a daughter at age 7 in a car accident. Went on to have another little girl, then buried a stillborn infant two months ago- a tragic third trimester accident.
This is why when people say " I have my one or two" I think great, but there's no guarantee they will stay. Or that you CAN have another.
So many moms/dads I now say two is enough, but did they consider 30 years down the road? I think it is better to have more siblings, not less, no people don't end up alone in this world.
It;s not that kids have to be expensive, it's that children are not valued in this world. They need time and teaching, not cable TV and 3000 sq foot houses.

On Man wants change in chicken ordinance

Posted on November 18 at 4:03 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

hannah- That is a bit superficial, don't you think? It's kind of like me saying to you, "What, you want kids? Do you have a college education? Do you a have a nue=rsery with matching designer furniture and a big savings account for the child that will cover their college education? No? Well, show me you can TAKE CARE OF THAT FIRST and THEN I think you should have a kid."

Paint jobs are not a requirement for having a voice in city governemnt. Also, you haven't seen garden. SO? BIG FREAKIN DEAL! MAYBE HE HATES GARDENING! Or maybe he has a community garden, maybe his yard is shaded, maybe he has neighbors that steal his produce, maybe he has a dog and needs the space as exercise area for his dog, whatever the deal is, he wants chickens, NOT Carrots! In case you didn't know, you need CHICKENS for eggs, not an eggplant!
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garyprimer... oooh, he doesn't keep uo his LAWN! For shame! With all the credit and glory be you give to god, and you think a lawn is an issue of one's character?
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Perhaps he doesn't want to put CARCINOGENS on the lawn just to please picky appearance-obsessed bible thumpers... I had one guy from Tru-Green come out to my place and offer me service as I, Too, have a weedy lawn. (Gasp, Swoon!) He assured me all the chemicals were safe, as I have a well and we eventually drink whatever is on the soil. I told him if he would drink a straight up glass of whatever he had on his tanker truck, I would buy his contract for five years. He kind of stood there quiet, the sad thing is, I THINK he was considering it!!

On Man wants change in chicken ordinance

Posted on November 18 at 10:02 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

Turkeyman- that's great that you got alerted to an outbreak of an equine disease. I did hear that the Brooklyn area had West Nile cases this year. And yes, that is the full name of the avian disease in question. Ten points and a carton of fresh eggs for you!

However, I still maintain the NAIS is a slippery slope that, if it goes the way it did in Great Britain, it will end up killing more healthy herds than controlling disease. We simply do not have the level of animal disease epidemics here.

somethingtosay.. Crappy, tasteless, factory eggs that are DYED TO HAVE YELLOW YOLKS are .89 cents a dozen. That doesn't include the cost of suffering and poor health of the animal that laid it, or the pollution and overuse of the water tables of a factory farm.

Having my own backyard flock.. priceless.When I toss a worm or other tasty treat to the rooster, he doesn't gobble it up.. no, he does this special 'come here ladies" cluck and feeds it to the hens! He is two years old and has never eaten a treat yet, he saves it for the girls. he watches them eat at the trough and doesn't eat a bite until *all* the girls are finished eating. I find that so charming, that something usually viewed as dumb- a chicken- has the capacity to put his lady flock above his own wants. If a hen gets stuck or gives an alarm call, he is first on the scene to guard her. My rooster has more charm and manners than many human males.

I have yet to have a guest at my farm who has not enjoyed sitting on the porch swing and enjoy watching the peaceful activities of my happy chickens. I also cannot count the number of senior citizens I have presented with a gift of fresh laid farm eggs, to be told " I haven't had fresh eggs since my parents sold the farm... thank you so much! You can't beat a fresh egg!"

It is the same reason why people in the city still grow their own tomatoes in a pot on the front porch, or why people in high rises grow herbs on their windowsill. Sure, you can buy Wal-Mart brand for cheaper. But the taste, and the feeling of self-fulfillment, of watching your food grow, of caring for it, it's form of therapy you can never buy in a store. It truly becomes a part of you! And chicks are SO CUTE....

I get so much satisfaction out of sharing my tasty, healthy eggs and homegrown veggies with others. There is not one material thing i could buy that would ever give me that.

On Man wants change in chicken ordinance

Posted on November 18 at 9:39 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

What do i have to hide with my animals?
First of all, as long as my animals have food, water, and shelter, what I do with my animals is NONE of your business, or the government's. The end. This is why is is called PRIVATE property, not GOVERNMENT property. Got it? I feed it. I care for it. I pay for it. You don't. So you get NO SAY in how I do things.
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Second, registering your flock does NOT, I repeat, does NOT protect your animals from ANY type of disease. It simply makes eradication of your herd/flock easier and more efficient for the government.
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Third, your level of understanding of the process is very low. You want me to call a person who you can't even remember the name of? Let me help:Dr. Robert G. Ehlenfeldt, State Veterinarian
Division of Animal Health
Department of Agriculture
Trade and Consumer Protection
P.O. Box 8911
Madison, WI 53708-8911
608-224-4872 (Office)
608-224-4871 (Fax)
E-Mail: robert.ehlenfeldt@wisconsin.gov
Web site: www.datcp.state.wi.us
I did what a smart person does AND READ THE REGULATIONS MYSELF verbatim. Word for word. I posted some for you. Apparently that is too much effort for you- you'd rather just be TOLD WHAT TO DO and trust that person blindly.

Seriously- because I won't let someone who can't even SPELL the disease be in charge of how I run my operation, you call me paranoid? ARE YOU KIDDING? If you can't spell pullorum, or even write clearly or think critically, how are you going to keep state paperwork and forms accurate? You make a mistake on paperwork- which I think is likely since you think reading, spelling and writing is not all that important-and you could destroy someone's livelihood. AND YOU DON'T EVEN CARE! You think that having dedicated footwear is is enough reason to be trusted!
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It's not concerned owners like me who make "us" look bad, it's twits like you who cause intelligent animal owners to place NO trust in the government animal health programs.

On Stupak Amendment is an insult to women

Posted on November 17 at 10:04 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

916Wi-- So, you have an issue with paying for an abortion through your tax dollars?

I hope you are 100% in favor of food stamps, free housing, and health care for the children that result from the births of non-funded abortions, Hint: A first trimester abortion costs $300. A SINGLE, uncomplicated birth costs $17,000. So if money is a factor for YOU (it isn't for me) you may want to considier how much these 99% of all abortions are going to cost you, the taxpayer, after they gestate, are born, and need school, food and health care.

On Stupak Amendment is an insult to women

Posted on November 17 at 9:59 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Also, mexdetail. your daughter was told she would bleed to death if she delivered? By a doctor, and you say he's wrong? Are you an OB?

Pardon me if I'm wrong but it looks like... and correct me where I'm wrong... that you were not concerned with your daughter's health or risk of death during the delivery. You say you owuld have raised the grandchild.... you may have had no choice, had your daughter died as a result.

That is chilling.

On Stupak Amendment is an insult to women

Posted on November 17 at 9:56 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

maxdetail... Prounoin is right! There are SO many places in the Bible where God orders the killing of babies and children (remember the final plague, the Passover?)

Funny thing.. prolifers call a fetus a baby, and say it is EQUAL to the life of a boen baby. Fine. Then why won;t even a CHIRSITAN life insrance company sell a life insruance policy to a pregnant woman? Even not in the 3rd trimester?

Also, if a fetus is equal toa baby, then what if a woman has a miscarriage, or god forbid, a placental abruption in the 3rd trimester and has a stillbirth? Since you can;t PROVE the reason why it happened, should the grieving mother now be interrogated and questioned by police? After all, the death occurred, and the uterus is where it died, so the mother is now a crime scene. So she should be invesigated and questioned as to EVERY LITTLE THING... lifting something too heavy, sneaking a glass of wine... to see if she can be tried for second degree manslaughter.

If you think i am stretching, think again. Tennessee already has in the Senate legislation that would require drug & alcohol testing, as well as questioning, for every reported miscarriage.