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How would you describe the abuse of opiates such as OxyContin and heroin in Rock County?

July 1, 2008 - 9 a.m.
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Widespread 58% 321 votes
Restrained 10% 59 votes
Unknown 30% 167 votes
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ihavealife
Jul 6, 2008 at 8:19 p.m.
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Nina...Sounds to me that you are a teacher ?? Yes it is TRUE that heroin has been in the schools for 4 plus years that I know about ! This makes 3 young kids died from heroin.(wake-up Janesville) What is shocking are the ones selling this crap. I hope who ever sold to this young kid is charged too the max and rots in jail !!!The 21 year old just arrested 3- months ago needs jail time also !!!

Nina
Jul 6, 2008 at 6:39 p.m.
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And yes, Jvlborn is correct; a very promising, sweet young recent graduate has passed because of heroin. He will be missed.

Nina
Jul 6, 2008 at 5:55 p.m.
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Students have told me, and I mean "good" students who are in the honors classes and do well in them as well as students who would fit the less motivated category, that heroin is easier and faster to purchase in Janesville than pot. I didn't believe them when they started saying this to me TWO YEARS ago, but suffice it to say that I have come to realize this may be true. It appears that students from ALL socio-economic and academic backgrounds are playing with this dangerous drug. Might I also mention I have heard it is not just upperclassmen but also much younger people as well. Terrifying...

ihavealife
Jul 6, 2008 at 12:27 p.m.
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PLEASE !!!All parents, friends ,family members etc. DO NOT bury your heads in the sand on this. As I said in my post July 1st JANESVILLE has a BIG HEROIN ISSUE. How many more young people have to die before something is done ??? I hope our DA and JUDGES wake up to this also and NOT just slap juniors hand and say I don't want to see you in here again !

JvlBorn
Jul 4, 2008 at 1:22 a.m.
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Apparently the problem is far more severe than any of us parents would like to believe. Rumor has it that a promising young student died this week from heroin overdose. God help us all!

soside4life
Jul 4, 2008 at 12:40 a.m.
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No argument w/ that FACT, kid! ;) There's (re: incentive!) ALOT more to do than just "golfing", though! <lol! :)>

Pretty sad though, in the end......

thekid3477
Jul 3, 2008 at 8:52 a.m.
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soside4life the reason im sure alot over prescribe is because they have a drug rep in their back pocket takin em golfin an giving them incentives to move their product. its no different than any other retail operation.

thekid3477
Jul 3, 2008 at 8:44 a.m.
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farve?? please westside, peeps want you to stick to the topic, its a survey about oxycontin, not vicodin;)

westside
Jul 3, 2008 at 2:12 a.m.
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By the way hopefully a favre comeback? :) or will i get snide remarks as well

westside
Jul 3, 2008 at 2:09 a.m.
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O boo hoo leave thekid alone hes an excellent speaker who speaks the truth and supports our cause in ways i cant do myself.

soside4life
Jul 2, 2008 at 11:59 p.m.
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And, since I have kids (NOT old enough, yet, BUT....!! I have a nephew & niece!!) the thought of heroin TRULY FRIGHTENS ME! (AND I THOUGHT, I'd ONLY have to be worried about the alcohol & pot <lol!:)> speeches!!)

Just HOW readily available is it here in town (Jnsvl.)?!...Please, DO TELL!!!!

soside4life
Jul 2, 2008 at 11:44 p.m.
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My personal opinion, as well as my observation(s), is that MANY physicians are WAY TOO QUICK to hand out prescriptions like OxyContin, etc.!!! In fact, ALOT of times, "unnecessarily"...YET WE WONDER WHY?!!! (...or seem to ponder on/post on a topic like this!!! lol! :)

thekid3477
Jul 2, 2008 at 10:18 p.m.
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lol. chaos and disorder;)

benthinkin
Jul 2, 2008 at 9:38 p.m.
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Hey I know...lets start a blog about the positive effects of pot and it will throw thekid off, then he will actually post about something else.

SarahB
Jul 2, 2008 at 5:18 p.m.
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Meanwhile, back to this forum's topic --- while the arguments over marijuana continue and continue and continue, young people across the United States continue to die in record numbers from methadone and other opiate overdoses. In most cases, the methadone is not linked to opiate-substitution clinics but to individual prescriptions written by private physicians.

thekid3477
Jul 2, 2008 at 4:48 p.m.
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maresyann if you email me id be happy to give you my mailing address. call the cops yoself. i dont deal. i dont grow. i dont have quantitys at my house. like most responsible smokers i have enough at any time for myself. call the cops. thats a good use of their resources. and ill be out soon enough to comment on it, cuz i can see the headline now 'THEKID GETS ARRESTED' subtitled with 'kid found with 3.5 grams'(misdemeanor) lol. thats how you want to spend taxpayers money?? towns/counties all over the country passing laws all the time to not even arrest people with less than 28 grams(ounce), dane county included. id be willing to bet when you see my name in the paper on a marijuana story it wont be for arrest but rather for me talking to the city counsel or county board about making marijuana possession the lowest criminal priority....

maresyann
Jul 2, 2008 at 3:46 p.m.
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I can't wait until I see the next pot raid arrests by the police department, and then no comments from thekid because they traced his username to his home and isp address and busted him.

thekid3477
Jul 2, 2008 at 3:40 p.m.
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i wont argue whybesad. those cigarrettes are proven to kill and still legal. hypocrisy. good link JasonTH, i always enjoy reading the negatives, really i do. in that link tho they are not even convinced of their findings. i wonder if they have the data for those 300 people who had an episode of psychosis about how many were drinkers, or had been beaten as a kid, or mistreated as an adult, or fired from their job. the guy says it himself in the article....'if it's true it would be important but there are many explanations for these kinds of findings.'

whybesad
Jul 2, 2008 at 3:27 p.m.
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I know several people that have been prescribed a pain killer and have ended up addicted to them. They no longer needed it for pain their body was craving it. Also, pot is addictive not to the point of some drugs but it is just like smoking cigarettes. You like the high it gives you so you continue to use it. That's addiction.

JasonTh
Jul 2, 2008 at 3:17 p.m.
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Amazing this comment thread is 100% off topic...
Major health studies still prove marijuana debate is moot - the drug is dangerous and should be more illegal than it already is.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/748538...

thekid3477
Jul 2, 2008 at 3:10 p.m.
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for those that get annoyed reading my pro-marijuana posts i have an answer for you....dont read em....and certainly dont mention the M word if you ever bump into me in person, im way worse in person and i dont care if you are a complete stranger with a badge in yo pocket, i will tell you how i feel about the current laws. i have passion and anger for my cause, as you can prolly tell. dont want a 'heated' debate?? then dont post uninformed comments about the negatives of marijuana. cuz i WILL post back. you absolutely have the rite to post em, as i have a rite to post about the ignorance of oxycontin as a prescribable(sp?) drug that kills while cannabis which has been medicine in every culture for 10,000 years, is not prescribable. last note;) there has been a cannabinoid found in cannabis that may halt the spread of breast cancer. anyone here know anyone thats been affected with breast cancer?? you should be outraged that proper research cant even be done because of the federal marijuana laws. did you all hear that?? HALTS THE SPREAD OF BREAST CANCER. good day. i said good day;)

hannah
Jul 2, 2008 at 2:19 p.m.
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bethinkin- no- not with the kid!!!!

westside
Jul 2, 2008 at 2:04 p.m.
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It gets turned that way because it is a popular drug and not too harmful

SarahB
Jul 2, 2008 at 12:59 p.m.
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Cocktail848: Also, thanks for getting this forum back on topic.

SarahB
Jul 2, 2008 at 12:58 p.m.
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Ihavealife: Thank you for attempting to keep this forum on topic. Opiate abuse and addiction are killing hundreds, if not thousands, of young people across the United States. This area is not immune to this tragedy and it needs to be addressed. Unfortunately, too often any Gazette forum topic regarding drug use is quickly turned into a heated debate about marijuana.

cocktail848
Jul 2, 2008 at 12:55 p.m.
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So when did pot become an opiate? Stick to the topic please.

cocktail848
Jul 2, 2008 at 12:54 p.m.
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All I can say is that OxyContin can't be that bad. Old Rush was on it and he just signed a $400M contract today ;-)

thekid3477
Jul 2, 2008 at 12:08 p.m.
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the lesser of two evils isnt my argument for legalization. its more to point out the hypocrisy. responsible smoking is what im talkin about. i KNOW there are responsible drinkers. no doubt. i know many. i also know some people who arent responsible pot smokers. that doesnt mean the responsible smokers should risk losing our freedom/family/belongings because we want to smoke pot instead of drink alcohol. for arguments sake ill put pot not even the lesser of two evils, ill say its the same evil. why can you chose to drink, but i cant chose to smoke?? dont i as a taxpaying responsible employee/father/friend/citizen/FREE AMERICAN DESERVE the right to chose??

benthinkin
Jul 2, 2008 at 11:56 a.m.
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So your premis is that because pot is "the lesser of two evils" it should be legalized?
That is a pretty weak arguement for legalizing pot.
Smoking pot is not a victimless crime as has been stated over and over. Responsible smoking of pot may be victimless...just as responsible anything (including the evil alcohol)is victimless.
So when your comparing please compare apples to apples.

thekid3477
Jul 2, 2008 at 11:12 a.m.
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if youve seen my many posts then you are also aware that i more than acknowledge the potential negatives of pot smoking, and gladly point out the many more potential negatives of your legal alcohol and tobacco. a scare tactic to me is telling a 15 year old that if they smoke pot they WILL end up a fat, lazy, non productive member of society and they WILL do harder drugs cuz pot is a gateway drug. educate the kids and let them make a responsible decision when they are adults. sorta like what they do with alcohol. if youve seen my many posts youve also seen a lot of people who arent pro-pot follow up what i say with referring to pot as 'the lesser of two evils'. i dont really know many people at ALL that wont agree that pot is the lesser of two evils. yet the eviler;) one is legal.....

benthinkin
Jul 2, 2008 at 10:39 a.m.
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Now there's a way to simplify hundreds of millions of peoples' social patterns into one sentance...

Jaxxi
Jul 2, 2008 at 10:24 a.m.
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I 100% agree with you kid. There are people in this world that live productive lives and contribute to society in many ways. Does that mean they are bad for wanting it to be legalized? Who does it harm anyway? Has anyone ready the latest statistics? America is in the lead for the most drug use/abuse. Netherlands is one of lowest users especially among teens and young adults and its legal there. Wonder whats up with that?

benthinkin
Jul 2, 2008 at 9:04 a.m.
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Based on many past posts about the pot issue, I will warn you in advance that your research will be considered government scare tactics by some while at the same time their research is to be held up as the truth.
Back on topic, I have been prescribed oxycodine twice and can tell you that it would be easy to get hooked on this if you take them every 4 or 6 hours as prescribed. I was fortunate enough as to only take when needed for the pain and never used up the 1st prescription.

I really think people need to be properly schooled prior to being given a prescription.

miltonalum
Jul 2, 2008 at 6:11 a.m.
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im not saying you dont already contribute and arent important in someones life but that does not mean that you cant take the time and effort you spend and further contribute, just because you do doesnt mean you shouldnt more? Ive done the research and ive seen the hard numbers, nobody has ever died from marijuana, nobody has ever overdosed, does that mean its ok? If you look a little further, the reason there are no statistics on marijuana is because there is no real way to test how "stoned" someone is at the time, aside from paraphenilia and finding the drug on you, if you leave it at home, get stoned out of your mind, jump in a car and kill someone crossing an intersection, the only thing you have going for you is that our PD has no way to "test" for being stoned like they do breathalizers and blood tests for alcohol. Sure they can test and see if youve been using it for the last 6 months but thats no indication of how much you smoked in the 4 hours before you killed this kid crossing the road, that, my friend, is why you cant find any stats on marijuana's problems like you can alcohol. If you think that marijuana doesnt impair judgement then your just plain wrong.

westside
Jul 1, 2008 at 11:24 p.m.
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Very good post kid

thekid3477
Jul 1, 2008 at 9:59 p.m.
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are you assuming that i dont already donate my time or money to a worth while charity?? i wont 'get over it'. its ignorant and we smokers DESERVE the right not to be a criminal. marijuana/cannabis/hemp, if youd research, could literally save the worlds fuel problems and 3rd world food problems, so you cant gaurantee that in 100 years the world wont be better because of the efforts of a few of us. yer also assuming that because we educate about the legalization of marijuana that we cant also be already important in the lives of a child, or children and that we arent already concentrating our efforts on other productive efforts. stop judging an start listening people. let me remind you that alcohol was once prohibited, and almost 100 years later you can drink, not because 'the people' were obeying the law, but because 'the people' knew uncle sam did not have the rite to tell 'the people' when and how to intoxicate themselves so 'the people' broke the law enough the law was changed. i will go away for a while and continue the education in real life. thanx for listenin;) peace

ihavealife
Jul 1, 2008 at 7:37 p.m.
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Heroin use in Janesville is out of control..Most wouldn't believe if you told them how many in high school abuse heroin.It's kids that you would be in total shock over.They mostly come from the upper middle class families.It's my opinion when minors are caught with any illegal drugs they need to go for treatment,not this slap on the hand and don't do it again talk that most get.When someone is busted and they go to court and can't give a clean drug test do you think there might be a problem ??

miltonalum
Jul 1, 2008 at 6:01 p.m.
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Marijuana is illegal, get over it......legalize this legalize that bla bla bla bla, concentrate your efforts more on doing something good or take the money you use to buy your illegal drugs and donate it to a charity or something. In 100 years the world wont be a better place because you fought to legalize marijuana but perhaps it will if your important in the life of a child, all you people who fight to legalize this drug should concentrate your efforts in a more productive direction.

thekid3477
Jul 1, 2008 at 5:42 p.m.
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lots of stuff i dont tie to the ignorance and hypocrisy of the current marijuana prohibition. the poll is about oxycontin which is a prescription medication that is a freakin killer prescription drug. its not a debate, but im glad to point out the fact that you can get it prescribed by any dr, yet if yer dieing from cancer or aids you cant get a script for cannabis which is PROVEN to improve quality of life for those people.

benthinkin
Jul 1, 2008 at 2:49 p.m.
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Man, is there anything on this site that is not turned into a marijuana debate???

thekid3477
Jul 1, 2008 at 9:56 a.m.
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oxycontin is grouped with heroin because people most def die from using oxycontin and it most def has a high rate of abuse, yet it can be prescribed by a dr, any dr. cannabis has been used as medicine for 10,000 years and in that 10,000 years NO ONE HAS EVER OVERDOSED, yet i cant get a prescription for it from ANY dr in this state. in fact not only can it not be prescribed, IM A CRIMINAL FOR POSSESSING IT. i wonder if that has anything to do with greed and the fact that the pfizers of the world cant patent a plant.......

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