Texas students pack bookbags; teachers pack heat
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School buses are seen parked at the rear of the Harrold school, Monday in Harold, Texas. The Harrold school district approved a policy last fall that allows employees to carry concealed weapons.
HARROLD, Texas Along with normal first-day jitters and excitement, students in this tiny district started school Monday wondering which teachers might be toting firearms.
"It was kind of awkward knowing that some teachers were carrying guns," said Adam Lira, 17, a senior. "I don't feel like they should be, 'cause we already have locked doors and cameras. But I didn't feel threatened by it."
Several parents said they had no idea that employees of the K-12 school were allowed to carry concealed guns on campus until recent publicity about the school board's policy, approved quietly last fall. They said they were upset that the rural community near the Oklahoma border had not been able to give input.
While some parents said they felt their children were safer, others opposed the plan, which appears to be the first of its kind nationwide.
"As far as I'm concerned, teachers were trained to educate my children — not carry a gun. Even police officers need years of training in hostage situations," said Traci McKay, whose three children are among the 110 students in the red-brick Harrold school. "I don't want my child looking over her shoulder wondering who's carrying a gun."
But Harrold Superintendent David Thweatt said the board approved the policy in an October open meeting that had been publicized. He said the decision was made after nearly two years of researching the best school security options at the school, which is just off a busy highway and 30 minutes away from the sheriff's office.
"When you outlaw guns in a certain area, the only people who follow that are law-abiding citizens, and everybody else ignores it," Thweatt said.
The superintendent said some of the school's 50 employees are carrying weapons, but he wouldn't say how many. When pressed further, he first said that revealing that number might jeopardize school security. He then added that he considered it to be personnel information and not a matter of public record.
Each employee who wants to carry a weapon first must be approved by the board based on his or her personality and reaction to a crisis, Thweatt said. In addition to training required for a state concealed weapons license, they also must be trained to handle crisis intervention and hostage situations.
State education officials said they did not know of any other Texas schools allowing teachers to carry guns. National security experts and the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence said they did not know of other U.S. schools with such a policy.
School districts in some states, including Florida and Arizona, have closed loopholes that allowed guns on K-12 campuses. Utah allows concealed weapons at public universities but not at primary or secondary schools.
Thweatt said the board took extra precautions, such as requiring employees to use bullets that will minimize the risk of ricochet, similar to those used by air marshals on planes.
"I can lead them from a fire, tornado and toxic spill; we have plans in place for that. I cannot lead them from an active shooter," Thweatt said. "There are people who are going to think this is extreme, but it's easy to defend."
Judy Priz, who has a third-grade daughter, said that "everyone I've talked to thinks it's great." She said she trusts the teachers with her child's life.
"Look how long it takes the police or anybody else to get here," she told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram for a story in its Monday online edition. "If someone wants to come here and harm someone, at least we would have sort of defense."
Gov. Rick Perry has said he supports the policy because "there's a lot of incidents where that would have saved a number of lives."
The Brady Center has spoken out against the plan, saying it may not comply with Texas law, which bans firearms at schools unless carriers have given written permission. If the school board authorizes an employee to carry a gun, then that person must be a peace officer, according to the center.
"It's unfair of us to ask teachers to take on the additional job of being police officers," said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign.
Cheryl Mehl, an attorney for the Harrold school district, said the statute the Brady Center cites applies only to security guards, not teachers and other employees. The district has no security guards.
Aug 26, 2008 at 9:16 p.m.
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Ban cell phones! Columbine H.S. had 30 confirmed shooters, we now know that was not true but, during the incident students on cell phones overwhelmed dispatchers with bad information and the police did not enter because they did not have the fire power. The police can respond quickly with the proper information from a legitimate caller.
Aug 26, 2008 at 9:11 p.m.
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Teachers or police?
Aug 26, 2008 at 5:39 p.m.
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When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Good to hear it. Now if we could just get rid of Doyle maybe we could actually protect ourselves. The university of Utah has allowed students and staff to carry concealed for some time now, ever hear of any teachers or students shooting anyone???
Aug 26, 2008 at 4:11 p.m.
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Go Harrold!
Aug 26, 2008 at 4:07 p.m.
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The main reason for this policy is because even after calling 911, the first responders are still 30 minutes away. Since this story broke nationally, I have countless individuals on various talk shows express that this policy is wrong. They relate it to their own school districts that may have an armed police officer in every building or have a 3 minute respond time. I think this is a proactive approach for the kid's safety. Remember that Amish community that got slaughtered. The damage done there was due largely because of a lack of weapons and a long response time (due to one phone and the area the community was in).
Aug 26, 2008 at 3:52 p.m.
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gabby, you hit the nail on the head of my biggest fear regarding this story. I'm all for concealed carry, but why make sure the weapons are on site for students who are mentally unstable and want to stage a coup? Can't you just see a group of high school junior or senior football players who are ticked off at the teacher for giving them academic disqualification plotting to overcome the teacher and seek revenge? It's just a recipe for disaster!
Aug 26, 2008 at 3:34 p.m.
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bang bang Im leaving my sling shot at home
Aug 26, 2008 at 3 p.m.
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"What happens if the teachers go pyscho?"
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Well I don't think they all would go psycho at the same time, but if one of them did the other teachers with guns would take him out.
Aug 26, 2008 at 2:46 p.m.
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What happens if the teachers go pyscho??????
Aug 26, 2008 at 2:38 p.m.
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I think teachers should have guns. But I don't think it should be broadcast. I can just see the next headlines, "kid steals gun out of teachers desk" or "kid rushes teacher to steal gun" I think whatever teachers have guns should not let students know.
Aug 26, 2008 at 2:34 p.m.
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"When you outlaw guns in a certain area, the only people who follow that are law-abiding citizens, and everybody else ignores it," Thweatt said. Finally somewhere where people have some common sense! I hope this is a trend nation wide.
Aug 26, 2008 at 2:22 p.m.
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If everyone has a gun, no one is going to start breaking laws. They would be too afraid everyone is going to pull out their weapon and object.
Aug 26, 2008 at 11:56 a.m.
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I agree with both of you. Wow! I agree with DrTalk, that has to be a first.
Our state is far too liberal to ever let anything like this happen. I would much rather have teachers packing heat than the alternative which seems to happen far to often in this country. The teachers job will not change, they are there to educate, just because they have a gun in their hip pocket does not change that.
Aug 26, 2008 at 10:25 a.m.
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DrTalk i agree with you. in wisconsin we do not have that law to CCW. I wish we could and have CCW teachers, to protect the kids,
Aug 26, 2008 at 8:34 a.m.
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"'It's unfair of us to ask teachers to take on the additional job of being police officers,' said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign."
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The district isn't requiring teachers to carry a gun. The teacher has a choice.
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If someone does bring a gun to school, you could call the police. They show up and take pictures of all the dead bodies. But if the teacher has a gun, they at least have a chance to defend the students.
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