Just what size boot would have ended up his ars had his dad still been alive? Does anyone think the whole thing would have ended different?

"I am looking forward to seeing Brett Favre in a New York Jets uniform," said Jets Chairman and CEO Woody Johnson said in a statement. "He represents a significant addition to this franchise, and reflects our commitment to putting the best possible team on the field.
TO BAD TED THOMPSON DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THE BEST TEAM ON THE FIELD.

Fire Ted Thompson!

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/Fi...

WWVHD?
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What Would Vince Have Done?
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Traded him long before it got to this point.
The minute he thought any one player was becoming bigger than the team...adios...trade bait.

ESPN reports Favre has been traded to the jets for a forth round draft pick that could possibly become a 2nd round pick depending on how they perform.

No. 4 arrives first; No. 12 derails and breaks something.

Why engine #4...of course!

Riddle me this....McCarthy's "train" leaves Green Bay with a number 12 locomotive and the Gruden train leaves Tampa Bay with a number 4 locomotive at the same time. Which train arrives at Superbowl XLVIII first?

No, Favre is doing this to himself. The Packer's image isn't being tarnished by this. McCarthy and Thompson have been very flexible throughout this whole ordeal. Fact of the matter is, because of what Favre said, they told Rodgers he would be the starter and he would be the Packer's QB. How messed up would it be to go back on that promise? Favre is acting like a spoiled brat! At least Thompson and McCarthy are keeping their composure and doing the responsible thing.

I am just wondering how all of you informants on here of what "Bret is going through" got your first hand info?? You all must be sitting in on all these NFL meetings to know so much valid information. OMG lot's of people are suffering from loved ones being ill, confusion etc.....it doesn't entitle them to A JOB THOUGH or AUTOMATIC sympathy or respect. I respect all of your passion for this man, but you really shouldn't force your feelings down others throats, when that is all they are is your opinions, all people are entitled to their own opinions, and unless your truths are universal truths, there is no right to force others to jump on your wagon.

Thompson's bunch should be driven out of town for trashing the Packer image. He's a jerk and McCarthy is his puppet. Dump both of 'em.

Great column...give it a read.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms......
Someone else posted this on the Poll question and I agree with them.

I remember one man who was talking with ESPN (apparently he's well known, I don't watch ESPN too much though), spoke about how after Favre retired, Favre called him and left a message. In the message Favre specifically said something along the lines of, "I'm not being pressured into this. No one is trying to force me to retire. This is my own decision, I just don't have the heart to play any more."
The man talking to ESPN said he has played the tape to several people, and everyone agreed that Favre sounded 100% sincere.
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If you ask me, Favre just got upset that he couldn't get what he wanted (because he waited too long) and now he wants to look like the victim. Why should I have pity for him? Why is it that everyone says this has been a one sided story from the start, when most people are taking Favre's side? Favre even did an interview on Fox. Surely you can't say that was spun in favor of the Packer's head coach and general manager. Favre was a good man, but this little incident has ruined him.

Anyone that worship a professional athlete as many do Brett Favre needs a reality check! I'm a "fan" of the QB Brett Favre. What he chooses to do with his career and life, I wish him the best, but, whatever path he chooses, life will still go on for people. I can appreciate the passion for a QB who played the game with more heart and soul than possibly anyone to ever lace up 'em up in the NFL. But, let's all keep it real here. Favre isn't God. He's just a man. Perspective is important in life!

Completely discraceful for the Packers to treat Favre that way. All the guy wanted was to play, so let him play without the childish media circus and trumpt-up "tampering" charges. Oh, and we'll give you 25 million NOT to play? Embarassing. I realized I'm a bigger Favre fan than a Packer fan, so adios Packers.

You should not feel bad for Favre, he got paid very well to play football. Without the money, how long do you think he would have stayed?

I agree completely. He I think is very hurt. Look at everything he did for them. He gave up watching his girls grow up, not being able to be beside his wife the entire time she went through chemo. Let me tell you she must be one hexx because she has stuck by him. People who talk badly about Favre have no class. We don't know the whole story the Packer's have only put out there what they want us to know. NOT all the nasty things they have said and done behind closed doors. Thompson should be canned and I think he will be. The only thing that would save his job is if the Packers have as good a year this year as last. So no one can question anything. That is not going to happen. 80% of last years season was because of Favre. The Packer's organization has embarrassed the state of Wisconsin.

First I would like to say to everyone who is talking badly about Favre, you do not know what is going through his head nor are you in his shoes. Since this story broke it has been very one sided and have only heard comment from McCarthy and Thompson. We have yet heard from Favre himself and what his thought are too all of this. Favre supposedly did make a comment to ESPN last night saying that there has been a lot of damage done that he cannot forgive. He further said that a lot of stuff has been said and story's told that just are not true. Now I have been following this story from the beggining and remember McCarthy saying that he had been in touch with Favre since he retired because Favre was not sure if he made the right decision and McCarthy made the comment saying that the option was there if Favre changed his mind and wanted to come out of retirement. My gut feeling is saying that there is more going on than what they want us to know and in time we will eventually find out what that is. And if I remember correctly all Favre requested from the Packers was to be released from his contract, probably so if he decided to be reinstated he then was not tied down and could go wherever he wanted without making waves but the Packers refused. One last thing, Reggie White retired only to have second thoughts and asked to be reinstated which he was and played 1 more year with the Panther's yet after his death when he was entered into the hall of fame he was entered as a Packer.And yes I know, Favre has done this the last 3-4 seasons threatening retirement but I also understand especially with his wife having cancer and not knowing what her prognosis was going to be or the outcome.

Favre hasn't been traded yet.

There seems to be alot of Brett Envy on here. I wish him the best. I hope Ted Thompson gets canned. At least it will give Ted and Aaron something to talk about at family reunions. How uncle Ted chased Brett out of Greenbay. Big bad uncle ted. Best of luck Brett, We will miss you and we will be cheering you on where ever you land. AND NO it will not be for the vikings. Do you people not read. Must be a viking fan. Unable to do much of anything but pick their nose.(and other things)

Trade him to Atlanta after all thats where he started his pro career, and about the time he decides to retire AGAIN Mike Vick should be out of prison! Perfect way to settle this, that or send him packing off to Houston the're not A bad team they just need A quarterback and they are in the same division as the Colts so we can see how he looks against the next great QB Payton Manning.

Just wondering how much of a "kick in the gut" it will be to have all of his fans that idolized him boo him as he runs out on the field as a VIKE. He shouldn't even CONSIDER playing for another team. He went out as a Packer, and should remain a packer. They are who made him who he is.....if he allows them to trade him, then that is just plain self centered desparacy. Hope he will be able to look at himself in the mirror at the end of the day sober if this all comes down to him playing for another team. I can hear Jim Beam calling now......

justsome...I don't see anyone here "ripping on the Packers"...just a couple of idiots leading the Pack!!!!

Used to love Bret, but now I am just about as sick of his saga as the Brat Pitt and Angelina Jolie saga. Enough is enough. Go away. Seriously, you didn't get the open arms welcome you were certain you would get, so just be a good boy and go lay down.

I love Favre, but I will never place one player above an entire team. Bret has left the packers, and if it wasn't to retire, then he has lost almost all of the respect I had for him. He's a whiner. I thought he was a real man, but clearly he isn't. All he has been doing is pouting. He doesn't love football. If he loved football, he would have been content with coming in as a back up. The team would have given him a lot of playing time still. Bret has become a spoiled brat, and no spoiled brat will be my idol.
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I honestly think that McCarthy and Thompson were trying to be as reasonable as they could be with Favre, while not allowing for the possibility of Rodgers to feel left out and useless.
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Way to go Bret. Way to evolve from the example for professional athletes to emulate into the bad example of what not to become. There are very few professional athletes out there who still act professionally, and I thought that Favre was one of them. I thought wrong.

It's time to move on, sounds like Favre has taken to many hits to the helmet anyway.

Sarah -
You wanna drive..or should I? ;)

OPPPPSS MY BAD... That's how sick I am about hearing about him!!

TMACIAS: Hey, no disrespect toward you, but at least spell the guy's name correctly.

Hey, Spunkmeyer: Maybe we should all go up there ... I'm in the mood for a dogfight. Once we clean the slate, we'll go get Brett and Deanna and kick off the new season. I guarantee Favre will be in the perfect mindset to rejoin the team.

WHO CARES!!! LET HIM GO!! ENOUGHT ABOUT BRET FARVE!!!

just -
If you honestly believe that Rodgers is our best chance of winnin' a Superbowl this year, you need your head examined. And that's what it's all about isn't it?? This isn't about what's best for the team. This is about Thompson's ego. Obviously you have somethin' against Favre. Much like Thompson. But like I said, we'll get the last laugh when Favre is polishin' up yet another Superbowl ring and Thompson is packin' up his office come January.

Spunkmeyer - Since you "own" that team, why don't you just march up there, fire everybody right before the pre-season starts and run the team yourself. According to you, you have that right. Good luck to you!

What does McCarthy mean about "mindset" anyway? It is another attempt to trash Favre? This whole thing has been hard on everyone and I feel badly for all involved ... except for Thompson and his puppet, McCarthy. Right now, I feel like I am going to vomit. So, I'm gonna put on my Tampa Bay pirate eye patch and go to bed. When I wake up, I hope everybody has made up and the world is a happier place.

Btw just -
It's not the TEAM people are rippin' on. It's the management and coach. Should we just back them no matter what their decision, even if it's so completely obvious they are WRONG?!? Come on now. Remember, WE own the Packers, not the Three DUH-migos.

Oh if only :)

Spunkmeyer - Apparently you feel it is "mature" and acceptable for the fans to "rip" on the team they "supposedly" support. I remember a few times when Favre generated a few "boos" also. I happen to agree with Rodgers. A true Packer fan would get on board and shut up. Obviously, you only care about Favre. I hope you two are happy together!

It's really not about catering to Favre. It's about putting the best team on the field as you can. Obviously the Mike and Ted show doesn't want that. Your telling me that the Packers are going to be a better team without Favre at the helm? Come on people. He had one of his best years last year was second in MVP voting and only lost that because Brady had a once in a lifetime season. They made it to the NFC championship and were one play away from going to the super bowl. There is way more to this story than we know. It just makes zero sense. A TRUE Packer fan would want the best team on the field period.

All I can say is that Ted Thompson better hope that his illigetimate son Aaron pulls through without breaking any toenails & actually throws a ball to someone that is wearing green & gold or he (UNcle Ted) is going to be hopefully out a job. Sorry but Brett shouldn't have retired if he wasn't ready but now he has changed his mind & any team that wouldn't take him back is a bunch of flamin' idiots. If I had season tickets which sorrowfully I don't (will hopefully move up further on the list tho after this fiasco) I would not even attend the first game of the season just to show my total disapproval for how this all was handled. Here we are after the very informative press conference LMAO still not knowing what the **** the future of our team brings. Time for Teddy to get off the bench, admit he's an idiot & give the QB job to the man who gives our team the best chance to win.

Hey Sarah...don't fret. We'll have the last laugh. Brett will get traded to the Bucs and finish the season with a Superbowl win...and Rodgers will lead the Pack in a 2-14 season. Wonder if McCarthy and Thompson will want to "keep moving forward" then?

"The only person that has handled this situation with class is Aaron Rodgers. He certainly is displaying a lot more maturity than the majority of people that are posting here."
Are you kidding?!? What about his "the fans need to get on board and shut up" comment?? That didn't sound very mature or classy to me. And that could explain the reaction of most of the fans on Sunday night. You don't talk to fans like that, especially Packer fans. And before you even start your first season?? Wow. I'd say that's pretty ignorant. And I don't recall ever hearing him apologize for it either. So that's your idea of maturity and class?? Again...wow.

br549.. oh yes i am a woman...He was my first love.. LOL..

And yes I agree the Pack called his bluff.

Like I said before this isn't about Rodgers, the GM, McCarthy or winning. If the Big Corp Packers cave in they look like wimps. If they are strong they look like jerks. All some people care about is catering the Farve.

I think in the long run winning season or lose the Pack will have more credibility staying strong then caving in. Wow what a concept....

I wonder how many teams/players REALLY want Brettie boy.. "WOW we get to play with Brettie boy... HE's MY HERO.. He will win for us..."
Really sad if that is the case....
Let me make myself clear and state that I am NOT AGAINST Brett as exceptional athelte. I just have issue with the demands and the way he did this.

ranjan, I sure hope your a woman for liking David Cassidy (LOL)

This is a classic tale of "The Quarterback Who Cried Retirement". Has anyone thought that maybe, just maybe it was the Packers who called Favre's bluff for once?

Correct me if I am wrong but who is bullying who? Brettie wanted to come back. Brettie boy was the one who started this ball rolling. RIGHT?? So why is the GM and McCarthy under fire by some of you?

I think it is so sad that when Brettie boy speaks everyone salutes and says how high. He is just a QB...an athlete. Yes a very good one but jeez...to worship him like you people are...get a life....
Hmm.. lets see.. how many of you will give up your salary to pay Brettie boy his multi million salary.. you want him that bad.. pay up kids. Oh yeah.. that part of the deal isn't YOUR problem.

The last time I worshipped someone like that was when I was 10 and David Cassidy was my main man...

On July 13 I posted the blog below.Now I'll tell you the rest of the story. Rogers and Farve will compete. Rogers will be named the starting quarterback. Farve will stay on for awhile or be put on the injured reserve .Farve will eventually leave and the story will continue.................................................On Quarterback Brett Favre will be back, local Packer fans believe Posted on July 13 at 1:20 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
OK....This is how it will play out...If the commissioner reinstates Farve to active status he will come back as a back-up to rogers. They will both compete for the position. And SarahB don't hold your breath..Jim Jones said that Rogers has the stronger arm,believe it or not.Just remember that this is the Green Bay Packers football team and not the Brett Farve football team. I'm a huge Farve fan but the staff of the Green Bay Packers are charged with fielding the best team.

rodgers definitely has handled this well publicly. to bad his handling of the football is atrocious!

You are right SarahB...it's time for you and the rest of the girly-men and manly-girls to quit crying about BF. Hopefully you have a satelite connection so you can watch him in Tampa Bay.
I'll still be a Packer fan, just like I have been since the days of Lombardi and Starr.

McCarthy is sure stammering on packers.com press conference right now.....

Time to close up, folks. Word is Favre has been traded to Tampa Bay. Fire Thompson and eliminate Mark707.

Hey SarahB...Brett was singing this when he left today...
""I want you to want me.
I need you to need me.
Id love you to love me.
Im beggin you to beg me.

Didnt i, didnt i, didnt I see you cryin?
Oh, didnt i, didnt i, didnt I see you cryin?
Feelin all alone without a friend, you know you feel like dyin.
Oh, didnt i, didnt i, didnt I see you cryin?

I want you to want me.
I need you to need me.
Id love you to love me.
Im beggin you to beg me.""

(Cheap Trick, words and music by Rick Nielson)

The only person that has handled this situation with class is Aaron Rodgers. He certainly is displaying a lot more maturity than the majority of people that are posting here.

Mark707: Why don't you just take off your stupid mask?! We all know that you are Thompson's partner. You'll both be looking for a new home if the team can't produce this season. You're little boys trying to play a big boys' game.

Did y'all see the scrimmage game Sunday night? Did you hear the boos for Rodgers? If Thompson is stupid enough to let Brett go, it's only going to get worse. I wouldn't be surprised if Thompson and McCarthy were out of a job at the end of the season. It ain't lookin' good right now, but I'm not giving up hope. Maybe we'll get lucky and Rodgers will crack under the pressure and give up the starting position. Or maybe Thompson will pull his head out of his butt and let Brett start. Thank God Lambeau Field is an open stadium. Ted Thompson's ego is getting too big to be contained. Whatever the outcome, I'm rootin' for Brett. If he gets traded to the Vikes, as physically sick as it would make me, I'll be cheering for them.

From the Green Bay Press Gazette:

"Brett Favre leaves Lambeau Field
1:40 p.m.

Brett Favre officially left the building at 1:37 p.m. He was talking with ESPN’s Rachel Nichols at his car for a few minutes and hugged team security official Jerry Parins.

Favre was wearing a white shirt and gray shorts. He did not acknowledge either the throng of media or the fans waiting near the loading dock."

He isn't hugging the head of security if he is coming back.......

"In a telling interview with ESPN, Brett Favre seems to have accepted the fact that "best thing for this team is for us to part ways." "We're at a stalemate," Favre told ESPN's Chris Mortensen sometime today."

Poor baby...the Packers won't let you have it "your way" so you're going to re-retire (is that a real word?) and go home?

Favre should call their bluff and just hold the clipboard for 12 million a year. I know he won't but, that would be fun 2 see the Packer fans rebel against the Mike and Teddy egos.

I guess Thompson and Macarthy's ego's are more important than putting the best team on the field and trying to win a superbowl. Mike + Ted = Morons

If the packers trade him I hope they lose every game

I don't know how much say McCarthy has had in all of this. It is clearly Thompson that does not want him back. McCarthy knows he will win with Brett. As a coach thats what he wants to do is to win. McCarthy has to do what his boss tells him to do. Ted Thompson. Hopefully after this year none of us will ever have to hear about Ted Thompson again.

Favre is the greatest. Go Favre!

Macarthy is a complete idiot. Not letting Favre compete for the starting job. That's just plain dumb. Why won't you want the best team on the field? He's really going to look like a fool when Rodgers gets hurt.

I would love to see if him go to the Bears if it has to be some where in the division. I don't mind the Bears nearly as much as the Vikings. I like Chicago's coach he is a good guy. If he goes to the Vikings it will be hard to take, listen to, watch. Any of it.

rlms~
I understand where you're coming from for sure. Like I said, I think if Favre's around to start the season, it will prove to the football world that they didn't have 100% faith in Rogers all along. As far as Favre going to the evil Vikings. Possible. If I were the Packers and serious about trading Favre and it had to be within the division, I'd take the lesser of the two evils and trade him to Chicago! Why not? The Bears are in disarray. Even with Favre, they aren't a threat to anyone because their offensive line is so bad and their WR's are no better than average at best. By trading him to the Bears, they keep him away from Minnesota who would pose a huge threat within the division. They are way closer to being a contender than Chicago!!! Plus, by trading him to the Bears, all the bitter Pack fans who have turned on Favre could have sweet revenge watching him get pulverized because the Bears O' line is so bad. It could be a win-win! What do you think??

sry, read that wrong:) i hope hes not in green bay this weekend...id look good with a #4 vikings jersey on:)

pretty bold prediction shutupandfish...since hes already there;)

From a business standpoint releasing Favre would have been a terrible decision. If they trade him at least they get something for him. I don't think he will be in Green Bay by the weekend.

I think that is what makes me so disgusted with the entire thing. Because it is about pride. Not who is better fit to be quarterback(we know who is.) Maybe Brett could have done things different. But he has the right to un-retire. He did not demand to play for the Packer's . He asked for a release. They refused. He called their bluff and asked to be reinstated. Now he is in GreenBay and probably will be traded to the evil Vikings anyway. When they decided they did not want him anymore they just should have released him. That would have been the end of it. But no lets drag it out for weeks, and weeks , and take a beating in the poll of public opinion.The Packers tried to keep him retired and that is just insulting. They do not have that right. Ted Thompson could have done a lot of things different and better. I hope he has his resume polished up, he will need it by the end of the season.

Know Mark707, Brett and Thompson were both having a pixxing contest. I just can't explain the one arrest sorry.

Wahoo_35: Write whatever you want, but at least drop the Vicodin bullcrap. Favre is in recovery and so are many of this newspaper's readers.

rlms~
Thompson isn't exactly a bad GM! Thompson wasn't counting on Favre "unretiring" is where it starts. The Packers were ready to begin the "post Favre era". Favre put Thompson between a rock and hard place by asking for reinstatement to the league. Thompson knows Favre is the best man for the job. He knew if he just layed out the red carpet for Favre, it would send the message that he's not 100% confident in Rogers being the QB of the future for this team. He figured Favre was doing it for the money and tried to buy him out and it backfired. He may not like it, but, he knows Favre is going to be the QB this year and the Aaron Rogers plan is going to be on the backburner for another year. Thompson's problem right now isn't Favre, it's his pride. He doesn't have the guts or humility to go to Rogers and just tell him, Favre is playing and you're not! So, he insults the fans intelligence by announcing a QB competition between the two! That's like putting a Ferrari up against a Volkswagon!
Bottom line, Favre put Thompson on the spot and Thompson wasn't prepared to deal with it. It's a good short term thing for the Packers, but, it's going to set them back for the future. It's as simple as that.

"Green Bay police arrested one person Sunday evening at Lambeau Field for unlawful conduct at a public event and resisting an officer."
Was Brett throwing another tantrum?

AT least by this afternoon we should know one way or another what is going on. Their 24 hours will be up.

I think Thompson thought he could bully Favre into doing what he wanted him to do. That is all Thompson is a bully. A horrible G.M. . So now they have hired a former white house press secretary to fix this p.r. nightmare. Start with firing Thompson. They can't fix it. The damage is done.

mgmgrand...last year Favre did not throw 3-4 int per game. You are way off on your figures.

Farve is still in the top 5 of NFL quarterbacks. If he was not a threat and was really a has been, the team would have released him fully, and not offered 20 million dollars t stay retired. Ted Thompson is a buffoon to have allowed this media circus to happen. He left himself with no out to save face. Farve has to be traded or released in 24 hours or he will be the starting Quarterback by seasons opening.

Farce
Anti-team player
Vicodin
Retire already
Egotist

You are correct ranjan....I feel sorry for kids who are influenced by adults to hero worship pro athletes. Not that there aren't some genuine role models out there...but the very concept is so off the mark.

Lots of nice statistics. Lots of nice hoping the Pack gets in the Super Bowl with Brettie Boy.

How about a little interigity? Apparently then name of the game is whiny football. Brett sits there while the media speculates his retirement this spring as well as the last couple of year. Brett decides to retire, nope, yep.. nope and finally yep.... ahh,, nope. I want to play again.

Does anyone care about real sportsmanship ? As long as the Pack can win the Super Bowl and Brett does it who the heck cares how it was done right?

He was tauted as this great guy...team player...dealt with all these problems and he still played...we all stood by him and NOW....." I WANT TO PLAY... NOW !! ". Do as I say.

What a slap in the face to his team, his fans, the Packer Corp.

What if YOUR KID was suppose to start on his team. And then,,, nope..sorry whiny britches wants to play now... he quit, we reeved up little Johnny YOUR KID to play ALL summer.. and boom. Sorry Brutis gets to play now. We care more about winning than honesty and integrity.
We teach the kids winning isn't everything don't we? The kids look up to guys like Farve. Now all they see if they complain loud enough they will get what they want. But only if you are "important" like Farve.

How sad there are no gentelman anymore in sports...

MGMgrand and other Favre-busters: It did not take Brett "years to get good". He came in for the injured Majkowski early in the 1992 season and the Packers went on to post 13 non-losing seasons in a row (their worst record being 8-8 in 1999), two Super Bowl appearances, and one Super Bowl win (Super Bowl XXXI). The Packers' 13 consecutive non-losing seasons was an active NFL record until the team finally suffered a losing campaign in its 2005 season though it returned to have an 8-8 season and just missed the playoffs in 2006. Last season, the team came up one victory short of advancing to the Super Bowl. Remember, every single one of these years featured Favre at the helm. Gosh, imagine that! I have absolutely nothing against Rodgers. I just wanted to set the record straight on Favre. Welcome home, Brett. Now let's play some football!!!!!!!

The only way this all has a happy ending is if the Pack starts Favre and the TEAM (not just Favre like he is the only one there) goes to the superbowl and wins it all. It really ticks me off that now the packers say they never said Farve would be a backup if he came back, that is BS! It's also BS that he can't decide if he wants to play or not, talk about being a hostage in the whole thing. What about the fans for the last 5 years of his coming or going?

O.K. the Packer's wanted to move on yet Murphy went to Brett three months ago trying to get him to come back. That was reported today. They have such faith in Rogers that they asked him to come back? I hope Rogers has something up his sleeve different than how he looked last night. The fact that they went to Brett three months ago makes one wonder how much faith they really have in Rogers.

GIVE HIM HIS PAYCHECK FOR THE YEAR AND A SPOT ON THE TEAM AND SEND HIM HOME LIKE THE LIONS DID TO BARRY SANDERS GET OUT OF TOWN BRETT I LOVE THE PACKERS GOOD JOB TED BY MOVING ON GO RODGERS TAKE US BACK TO THE SUPER BOWL SEE YOU LATER BRETT AND GOOD LUCK SITTING AT HOME YOU CLOWN GO PACK GO

Thats right Rodgers has been to this BBQ before he knows the routine. All these Favre haters must be bear fans who were hoping that Favre would be retired. Just going to have to wait another year or two.

mgmgrand I expect him to do better than he did. He has been with the team for 4 years. He has done this before it's not new to him. Favre was not in the system very long before he was forced to play. Your comparing apples to oranges.

Favre will beat out Rodgers in open competition. They need to put the best team on the field and right now that's with Favre.

Spanky - what do expect? The guy never plays. He sits on the sidelines game after game after game. Would expect him to throw 3 TD's in a row. He does not have the game experience....YET!!! You don't just automatically have that experience when you walk on the field. Favre was the same way when he started. It took years for him to get good.
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By the way, Favre throws how many INT in a game? It is not uncommon for him to throw 3-4 INT in a single game. He is good, but not the best in the league.

Here is the other thing. Granted the Packers did not have a banner year last year (in other words get to the Super Bowl), Favre still had a great year. If he totally flops this year, then what will that look like? To come back from announcing a retirement, then having one the worst playing years ever. Yea that will be nice to leave then.

Trade talks are still open with other teams, just because they couldn't get him traded before reinstatement doesn't mean they won't keep trying. As of Friday evening, JS online reported that they are still in trade negotiations with Minnesota. The saga isn't over yet.

wahoo, you should talk about going on your confused way.

I still sense a "rat" in the wording of the Packer's organization press releases that Brett still may not be playing for the Green Bay Packer's this year. They sure know how to say open ended "words". It would be cruel of the Packer's to allow the Farve fans to get their hopes up to seeing him play again only to trade him & blame Farve.

get your superbowl tickets now. Brett will be the starter and have the best year of his career.

And that was against his own team.

My bad 7-20 for 84 yards and an INT.

The Packers have no choice but to let him play, He is getting 12,000,000 to play that is part of his contract through the end of the 2010 Season. They can not afford to pay Brett that kind of money to sit on the bench.

Rodgers looked terrible in his debut 8-20 WOW impressive. Take a seat Rodgers your good at holding the clipboard.

Does anyone remember his last game against the Giants. He quit on the team, you see by the way he was sitting on the bench, he was done, he could not get off the field fast enough. The Packers are making a mistake in letting this BOZO come back. Just give him a life time supply of pain killers and send him on his confused way!

Farve just needs to quit playing his games he retired let Rodgers have his turn. He chose to give it up, he should just go enjoy his free time and his family.

Well said Kleej!

They didn't bring Favre back for an open competition at QB! Get real here. I'm not a Packer fan and even I know Favre's one of the best ever. He had one of the best season's of his career last year. The Packers have allowed their ego to take over now. Favre called their bluff and didn't take the buyout and the Packers got burned at their own game. Now they're insulting the fans by informing them there will be an open competition between a Hall of Fame QB who still plays like one and an unproven QB who has been waiting his turn. The Packers need to be up front with Rodgers and tell him the truth. Favre is coming back, he's better than you are and ever will be and he's going to be the starter unless he's hurt. If Rodgers feelings get hurt, so be it! Then, they should put a gag order on Rodgers and have their PR guy do all the talking with the media to avoid distractions because the media will do everything they can now to provoke Rodgers to say something condescending regarding Favre and twist the story around to make Rodgers look like a tool. It is what it is! Favre gives the Packers the best chance to win NOW. That's the whole idea. If their intent isn't to win now, let #4 go and be done with it!

I think it is a crappy thing to do on the Packers part. They basically promised the job to Rodgers, and now they are telling him he has to fight for it. That is not right.
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If they brought Favre back, it should have been the understanding he was going to be a backup only.
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Now I know all you fans will say that is wrong. I am a Packer fan. I am a fan of the Packers no matter who they get as QB. Favre is just playing games. I hope they offer him the lowest salary they can.