Halbach arrested on 13 charges
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Jim Halbach
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Randy Peterson
JANESVILLE Jim and Rebecca Halbach withdrew their application for a liquor license for Screamin’ MeeMees this morning, a day after Jim was arrested on 12 felony charges of keeping a place of prostitution and one misdemeanor charge of prostitution.
Screamin’ MeeMees, 402 W. Delavan Drive, is the city’s only strip club.
Rebecca’s attorney last month told the city liquor license advisory committee that the Halbachs would close the strip club if they received a liquor license. Alcohol cannot be served in strip clubs, according to city ordinances.
If given a liquor license, the Halbachs would open a tavern at the location under the name of Rev. Jim’s Roadhouse, they said.
But police in June told committee members that investigators were poised to make arrests, and they asked the committee to table the request for at least a month.
On Monday morning, Jim Halbach, 52, of 3337 S. Schuman Road, Orfordville, turned himself in to Janesville police.
“Mr. Halbach has been a contributing member of the community for a number of years, including but not limited to the Fourth of July celebration,” Jim Halbach’s attorney, Scott McCarthy, said Monday afternoon.
“He will continue to be a productive and contributing member of the community. We will be vigorously defending him on these charges,” McCarthy said.
Halbach was released with a court date of Monday, July 28.
The arrest was the most prominent and significant in the Janesville Police Department’s year-long investigation into allegations of prostitution and other offenses at Screamin’ MeeMees.
The Rock County Sheriff’s Office is conducting a separate but related investigation into possible prostitution at Diamond Jim's & The Isabella Queen, a tavern and strip bar at 6530 S. Highway 51 in Rock Township.
The Halbachs own both establishments.
While at least two sexual acts and several solicitations for oral sex have been charged in previous Screamin’ MeeMees cases, most of the alleged prostitution involves physical contact, but not intercourse, between dancers and patrons at the two clubs.
On Friday, Screamin’ MeeMees manager Randy Peterson, 49, of 3626 Falcon Ridge, Janesville, was arrested on five felony charges of keeping a place of prostitution.
He, too, has a July 28 court date.
Previously, 18 people had been arrested on misdemeanor prostitution charges. Three cases resulted in guilty pleas to prostitution; one in a guilty plea to disorderly conduct.
The other cases are pending.
In a press release, Janesville police said: “These arrests are part of an ongoing investigation … into citizen allegations of prostitution, alcohol use, illegal drug use, and illegal drug sales occurring at Screamin’ MeeMees …
“This investigation remains open, however, we are concluding our work. The investigation has revealed over 100 separate prostitution violations occurring between July 2007 and October 2007,” the press release reads.
Screamin’ MeeMees is a non-alcoholic adult entertainment establishment open to people 18 and older.
In addition to violations of state statutes, Janesville police said they will pursue local ordinance violations at Screamin’ MeeMees and will seek the revocation of the adult entertainment license issued to Rebecca Halbach.
The Halbachs opened Screamin’ MeeMees after the city denied them a liquor license for the former grocery store they bought in 2000.
Reporter Marcia Nelesen contributed to this story
Jul 13, 2008 at 6:14 a.m.
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NURSE4U - if you know these guys so well,why read the blogs! I don't care if they are perverts or saints,people will have their own opinions no matter what! You are gonna have a heart attack! Do yourself a favor and stop reading the blogs! It will just upset you.
Jul 12, 2008 at 2:24 p.m.
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All right, which one of you maniacs changed your screen name?!
Jul 12, 2008 at 2:15 p.m.
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all i can say is rock county DA lets the child rapers,dope dealers,and NOW HALBACH with his 12 counts of felonies walk the streets
while they keep a 19 yr old in the county for having just one felony,,HALBACH should be sitting where the 19 yr old is,,he is a dirty person with his dirty money,,so what he supports this and he supports that!!!who cares he is still a dirty person who brings his filth into this community,,but you all want to pat him on the back for donations and contributions,,, yea he contributes all right
nothing but FILTH and should be shut down
SHAME ON YOU CITY OF JANESVILLE
Jul 8, 2008 at 7:28 p.m.
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!!!hguonE
Jul 8, 2008 at 7:18 p.m.
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Omg gazettefan....it's like you're channeling him! Stop it! You're scaring me!
Jul 8, 2008 at 6:41 p.m.
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nott guy on taxi. no like skenny girl, luuk like hitler onny mustash downstairs, like redhed, fuler gurl, kan senk my tets into that accion, scott have spillchicker, no fear, wutch out! boot up yur bad atitude, dawg, wurl goin to h e duble hocky pucs inna han bascket
Jul 8, 2008 at 6:19 p.m.
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ylbissop
Jul 8, 2008 at 6:11 p.m.
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?desrever ti etirw ot cinatas osla ti si , esrever ni hsilgnE kaeps ot cinatas si ti fI
Jul 8, 2008 at 5:13 p.m.
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i don't know whether to keep going with my comments or to stop. This has nothing to do with anything but i'm Christian and not an elitist!
Jul 8, 2008 at 4:38 p.m.
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Jul 8, 2008 at 3:39 p.m.
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?won yrots eht tuoba gniklat enod ew erA
Jul 8, 2008 at 3:01 p.m.
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gazettefan: I just choked on my lunch! ROTFLMAO!
Jul 8, 2008 at 2:41 p.m.
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want u sey roadkeng ur highnest
Jul 8, 2008 at 2:37 p.m.
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This is some of the most incoherent craziest nonsensical drivel I've read ever.
Jul 8, 2008 at 2:35 p.m.
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Yes ok than i gittin want u sey. natze on teh way, bee hear be4 yu now. whatout guy ur ilse. git et tugedder.
Jul 8, 2008 at 2:02 p.m.
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So you're equating wanting a strip joint shut down to the Holocaust?? Wow.
Jul 8, 2008 at 1:37 p.m.
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this is seriously my last post to you, eclipse.
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You speak of elitists and Christians. With your anti-homosexual views, are you not the one putting on the facade of being an elitist (better than someone else). By saying homosexual behavior is immoral, are you not shoving your elitist and religious views down other people's throats?
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I get what you are trying to do here. Prostitution is illegal, immoral and devalues sexual intimacy. However, trying to make the broad and unilateral comparision between prostitution and homosexual behavior is like trying to compare your posts to those written by Scott Angus.
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Have a good day, eclipse.
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And, to answer your question, no I didn't do stand-up at Mee Mee's. More like Chubby's. :P
Jul 8, 2008 at 1:31 p.m.
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eclipse: that's what you get for ASSuming. I'm not an elitist nor am what I would consider a Christian. Aren't there reruns of Sex and the City for you to be watching? Or do you still have a few discs on "Hooked on Phonics" to watch?
Jul 8, 2008 at 1:23 p.m.
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Did he just call me Hitler? Wait...you think someone has an elitist Christian view because I think prostitution is demeaning for everyone involved? Forget it. You make my head hurt.
Jul 8, 2008 at 1:19 p.m.
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eclipse, are you that guy Latka from the TV show Taxi?
Jul 8, 2008 at 1:06 p.m.
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s it sad that i still dont understand what your saying
Jul 8, 2008 at 1:05 p.m.
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spunkmeyer: obviously not! Unless, you're just as feabile minded as I am. In that case, we bow down to you, eclipse, o' great one.
Jul 8, 2008 at 12:57 p.m.
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I don't think he gets it.
Jul 8, 2008 at 11:02 a.m.
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eclipse: the only one who is screwed up and sounds screwed up is you. I'm not saying that because I don't agree with your views. I'm saying that because I can't figure out what your views are. Trying using proper grammar and punctuation. It may help your cause. And, I mean this in the most constructive way possible, copy and paste your postings FIRST into MS Word (or the equivalent) and run it through spell check BEFORE you post it for the rest of the world to laugh at, I mean see.
Jul 7, 2008 at 10:32 p.m.
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momof5-
LMAO- love your sarcasm & wit!!
Trimmo89-
Could care less-KMA!
Jul 7, 2008 at 9:07 p.m.
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I hope ms..sassy is alright, she hasn't been around for a while. thekid, you know anything?
Jul 7, 2008 at 8:45 p.m.
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if not ms_sassy, maybe momof5 for prez?? maybe same ticket?? you got my vote:)
Jul 7, 2008 at 7:38 p.m.
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Good call, lakennedy.
westside, His head is in the Bible, he doesn't like /\ss-bandits. His writing style is immoral.
Jul 7, 2008 at 7:25 p.m.
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gfan- the only sense i've made out of his posts is something about homosexuals.. and i am still confused (about the post)
Jul 7, 2008 at 7:11 p.m.
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eclipse, the only redeeming thing about what you're trying to do here is the perfect blending of form and content in your posts.
What you seem to be saying with your screwed up posts is that everything in general is all screwed up.
Clean up your own crap before you go railing out about everything. No one will take you seriously until you do.
Jul 7, 2008 at 6:47 p.m.
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OK, thekid, maybe you're right and I've been a little remiss with my internet etiquette, point taken.
Now I got to read all those news posts.
Jul 7, 2008 at 6:03 p.m.
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PS--it is Sex AND the city. Thanks for playing.
Jul 7, 2008 at 6:02 p.m.
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eclipse: I'm not sure anyone has called you immoral. However, I will be the first in line to call you ignorant. While you cannot (yes, it is all one word) CONTROLE (hint hint...drop the "E") culprits slapping you on the backside and homosexual prostitutes whom you cannot afford, I can "controle" how much I pay attention and attempt to decipher your idiosyncracies and jumbled jargon.
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I've heard of a lunar eclipse. Never a cerebrum anal eclipse. Learn something new everyday.
Jul 7, 2008 at 4:37 p.m.
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eclipse- are you assuming that we are all homosexuals? because i for one am NOT. This isn't a big city where there are homosexual prostitues.. maybe find a San Francisco newspaper to blog on.
Jul 7, 2008 at 3:50 p.m.
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I think that would be an excellent idea, Roadking.
I would also like the Gazette to poll the bloggers here in hopes to find out if anyone can spot ONE coherant chain of thought coming from eclipse. I for one cannot. I have spotted his pattern, though. It goes something like this: One HUGE post, immediately answered by a shorter post that he wrote, immediately answered by an even shorter post that he wrote--this one usually asking a question that he, himself, will use the next HUGE post to answer.
Jul 7, 2008 at 3:42 p.m.
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I'd like to see the gazette poll the readers to see if they think that someone in the city government is out to get Halbach.
Jul 7, 2008 at 3:13 p.m.
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eclipse: I have seriously given myself a headache trying to decipher what the hell it is that you are saying. Unfortunately, I cannot get that wasted time back. Fortunately, I couldn't care less anymore what it is you are saying or attempting to say.
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A piece of advice: Don't drink the flood water--aka kool-aid. It's contaminated. Your few remaining brain cells will thank you.
Jul 7, 2008 at 2:40 p.m.
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Are you saying prostitutes rule?
Jul 7, 2008 at 2:23 p.m.
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more people than gfan on here believe in elitism
The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.
Jul 7, 2008 at 1:53 p.m.
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eclipse--did the culprit run off with your dictionary as well? And, if he hit you from behind, did you like it? Wait, don't answer that.
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to quote a line from Wayne's World: "Asphinctersayzwhat."
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Exactly.
Jul 7, 2008 at 1:20 p.m.
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Just because somebody finds homosexuality to be immoral doesn't necessarily mean they're homophobic. It might just mean they are standing up against the moral decay of society. If I find prostitution to be immoral does it mean I'm prostitute phobic? I'm not afraid of prostitutes I just think it's immoral. Maybe if you had more prostitutes as friends it wouldn't seem so bad.
Jul 7, 2008 at 1:01 p.m.
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if its a joke for my demon weed burnt mind please add a lol or a :) or a ;) or lmao or a combo or all. i cant tell a joke in black and white. example. gfan is the best poster here. or gfan is the best poster here;) lmao. see the diff??;)
Jul 7, 2008 at 12:58 p.m.
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Eclipse -
I was going to try to explain to you how homosexuality isn't always just about sex and how you couldn't compare that to prostitution. But then I figured...what's the point? Homophobics are a closed-minded bunch, and unfortunately, they're a dime a dozen in the midwest. So good day Eclipse. I said good day.
Jul 7, 2008 at 9:53 a.m.
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Yes.
Jul 7, 2008 at 9:29 a.m.
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Was it something that I said?
Jul 7, 2008 at 7:38 a.m.
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thekid..., I hope that some day you add 'taking a joke' (at least a light jab) to your impressive resume'.
You copped to habitually chowing down on Oreos, why can't you cop to getting confused from those big giant blunts you smoke?
Are you saying that the Cheech and Chong record isn't true?: DAVE'S NOT HERE.
Jul 7, 2008 at 7:31 a.m.
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trimmo... and elcipse, the question becomes:
Which one of you is the the biggest put-on?
yu now want i meen, dont yuu. ;-)
Jul 7, 2008 at 3:14 a.m.
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gfan and nurse4u:
Thank you for taking up the entire comment board for your personal conversations, I'm sure I'm with the rest of the community when I ask what we did to be so lucky to have been graced with such presence...it even looks like we were all blessed to have heard from mr. primer as well, boy what a treat... on that note your both out of controll and should proobably go lay donw now. K thanx bye
In related news, does anyone else find it intresting that this man "does so much" (I use "" because I dont really know what he does so no one freaak out, you animals you) for our community? I wounder how that will pan out for his judgment...
Jul 7, 2008 at 12:48 a.m.
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Thanks gfan..that one had me..
:)
Jul 6, 2008 at 8:37 p.m.
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gfan: i never said incomprehensible, why do yo u keep seeing things in my posts that arent there?? maybe you should try 'the demon weed'. i, like gmretired, consider myself a fairly intelligent cat. i can handle myself anyways. i give you props for your intelligent sounding comments by acknowledging your a league above me, and you blame the pot?? yet with gmretired you assume hes intelligent but life works in mysterious ways. you write post after post that sounds like you know what youre talking about, they sound good, words sometimes i dont want to pronounce, let alone spell;), and then you follow it up with a completely ignorant judgement and wipe it all away.....you want to talk about a possible coincidence, i havent drank for almost 3 years. i now exercise on a regular basis. i have not been late for work once. i have not been arrested once. i care more about how i affect peoples lives now. i watch meet the press on sunday instead of espn. i switched my subscription from SI to newsweek(the playboy sub fits all lifestyles;). ive paid off a TON of bills, while not adding new debt. after 3 owis i got my wi drivers license back which allowed me to move rite next to my kids. oh, and ive smoked pot a LARGE majority of the days since i quit drinking, coincidence?? i dont think so either
Jul 6, 2008 at 7:13 p.m.
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I think he's saying:
He's straight and doesn't like gays because gays are worse than prostitutes.
He has a roommate, which may or may not be a female, because he can't afford to live alone.
And despite his savings, which includes buying in bulk, he still can't afford a prostitute.
Jul 6, 2008 at 5:15 p.m.
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LMAO-
I think you were visiting with thekid, cuz i had NO clue what you were talking about!!!
Jul 6, 2008 at 9:47 a.m.
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I hate to break it to you but there really is no such thing as normal or average these days.
Jul 5, 2008 at 8:26 p.m.
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eclipse: what????
Jul 5, 2008 at 6:40 p.m.
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momof5, sorry for sounding flippant. I don't approve of the police not following through with the proper procedures when crimes are committed
Jul 5, 2008 at 6:17 p.m.
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momof5, you misdescribe those acts of protitution.
I agree, there should be consistency. But we should at least be grateful that something gets done.
Jul 5, 2008 at 6:14 p.m.
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gmretirednow, I'm sure you are intelligent. It's just that life can be mysterious sometimes.
Jul 5, 2008 at 6:11 p.m.
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thekid..., my posts are incomprehensible to you and you smoke the demon-weed, coincidense? I don't think so.
Jul 5, 2008 at 6:10 p.m.
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Good thinkin', Dub...., sorry it took a little white lie to get the proper response.
Jul 5, 2008 at 5:57 p.m.
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I was being robbed a few years back. There were a few punks stealing stuff out of my shed. I called the police, they said they'd have someone there right away, so I waited. fifteen minutes went by and the punks were still leaving and coming back. I called back and told them to hurry, they were still around and could catch them. The operator was rude, saying there was no big hurry.
So I waited ten more minutes, called her back and said "No big hurry...I just shot them both" - They were there 2 minutes later, and caught the thieves in the act.
Jul 5, 2008 at 5:23 p.m.
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Gazettefan: While I cannot speak (or type) for others, I for one am neither condoning or discounting the illegal act of prostitution. Where my "beef" lies is with consistency.
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If Chief Mahan is going to recommend that the Halbach's liquor license be revoked, then so be it. And, if the advisory committee approves that recommendation, then so be that too. However, when establishments with KNOWN poor track records and frequent police visits are allowed to continue exercising poor judgement with little to no consequence, that is a greater problem than so booty shakin' and a little "bump-n'grind."
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Go down to the JPD. The clerk won't be happy you did, but you can ask for all police calls/reports to a specific address. I would bet you a dollar to a donut (on sale or not) that the MAJORITY of bars in Janesville have had MORE calls dispatched than MeeMee's. But, yet, they continue to have their license....
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When, as a society, did we decide to send the message that it's ok to turn the other cheek when someone gets the tar beat out of them at a bar, police respond to REPEATED police calls due to rowdiness or other supposed illegal activity.
Jul 5, 2008 at 4:52 p.m.
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g fan
Are you a lawyer or something? Your comments are way over my head and I thought I was reasonably intelligent!
Jul 5, 2008 at 2:14 p.m.
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gfan id be a bigger fan of yo posts if i could understand what the h3ll yer talkin about;) words....tooooo.....big.....
Jul 5, 2008 at 12:33 p.m.
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PS Report your complaints about the police to the Deputy Chief or the Chief. If you get no results, contact the Wisconsin Attorney General.
Jul 5, 2008 at 12:31 p.m.
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I'd be willing to submit the two posts below to an impartial party for judgement.
Jul 5, 2008 at 12:23 p.m.
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my "mistrust" of authority is neither "self-serving" nor "depression related". its related to the incompetence of the JPD. Which I witnessed first hand unfortunately. seems endless blabbering trying to imitate actual intelligence is a sign of a severe insuperiority complex. low self esteem maybe, trying to impress?
Jul 5, 2008 at 12:02 p.m.
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The tolerance or acquiescence to prostitution and other crimes here in Janesville is symptomatic of a personal psychiatric condition. The symptoms are that of depression i.e. personal hopelessness and despondency and is of such severity as to be global for the individual. That is, the depression is not situational nor from a particular traumatic episode but instead is evidence of a severe character disorder.
Clues to the source of the condition is a self-serving mistrust of authority complicated by the misogyny associated with a rationalized tolerance or acquiescence to prostitution and everything associated with prostitution.
Jul 5, 2008 at 11:54 a.m.
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and the police are so incompetent I dont think they could find a donut sale unless they were told where there was one.
Jul 5, 2008 at 11:51 a.m.
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billnewbie, in your sarcasm you hit the nail on the head. Having been a "victim" of burglary here in janesville and seeing how our "detectives" investigate, I have NO use for the police in Janesville. They took the report and that was it. I myself tracked down the fools who broke in. They were stupid enough to use my computer and I was able to trace them. Even then the police took a cum se cum sa attitude. So youre right I wont tell them anything, it goes in one ear through that vast hollow space and out the other.
Jul 5, 2008 at 11:07 a.m.
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If you don't tell the police then how do you know they know? "Someone" must have told them? What do you base that on since you couldn't be bothered?
You have so much contempt for the police, it make me wonder who are you going to call when you need help since it does no good to call the police as they’re busy looking for donut sales?
Jul 5, 2008 at 10:31 a.m.
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billnewbie, you must have went to that donut sale with your cop buddies huh? you sure defend the pretenders, i mean officers.
Jul 5, 2008 at 10:30 a.m.
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billnewbie, why tell the police? they dont give a darn. Im sure someone has told them and look what they do about it. NOTHING. unless of course they are out to get a certain person then theyll do whatever it takes. But if us ""regular citizens" know what is going on why dont the people getting paid with OUR hard earned tax dollars figure it out also? ill answer that one- theyre INCOMPETENT!
Jul 5, 2008 at 9:31 a.m.
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That from the guy who gets irritated over funny jokes about the munchies.
Jul 4, 2008 at 10:32 p.m.
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'donut shop with a sale'=funny stuff:)
Jul 4, 2008 at 7:32 p.m.
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If people are witnessing crimes (selling "powder" in a bar or “owners and liquor license holders engage in lewd and lascivious acts on a regular basis “ and “bars in Janesville where heroin can be ordered up just as easily and quickly as a shot of their top shelf tequila”) and don’t call the police, they’re part of the problem. Maybe they think that would make them a “snitch”. It could be that they don’t really think these activities are a problem just as they seem to think the prostitution at Sreamin’ Meemee’s is not a problem.
Could it be that the police don’t seem to care about the problems at other venues because they haven’t enough evidence when people who witness what goes on won’t come forward with some?
How does illegal activity at one venue justify illegal activity at another?
Isn’t claiming without proof that the police have a “vendetta” against the Halbach’s but condone by their inaction the illegal activities of others a baseless rationalization and slander against the police?
If it’s wrong to judge the Halbach’s based on circumstance, innuendo and incomplete evidence, isn’t it wrong to judge the police on those same bases? At least, in the case of the Halbach’s, some facts are known.
Jul 4, 2008 at 7:10 p.m.
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What's with all these posts that justify or mitigate prostitution in Janesille?!!!
Even the some of the ones that condemn it, somehow state that prostitution should be put on the back burner because there are other bad things going on here.
If you know about crimes and you know who the criminals are, call the police and press the point until something is done.
Jul 4, 2008 at 4:47 p.m.
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The conspiracy theories are funny. Did I miss where Mr. Halbach "spoke the truth" about Janesville?
Jul 4, 2008 at 1:41 p.m.
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good point momof5. i think that is exactly what it is. and your point about the bars are dead on. i stated earlier that i was in legends a few weeks ago and was asked, right in front of a bunch of people, if i wanted to buy some "powder". This is going on all the time, and at more bars than just legends, and the police and/or city officials dont seem to care. Meemees is a dump i agree with most on that and should probably be closed down. However, the city seems to have a vendetta agaist halbach. Maybe because he speaks the truth about what is going on in this city and the higher ups dont like that.
Jul 4, 2008 at 1:18 p.m.
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lakennedy: is ANY city ANY WHERE that much better off for having any type of adult entertainemt facilities? By this broad statement, I am wishing to include bars/taverns. There are bars in Janesville who have had patrons permanently disfigured (cognitively and physically). There are bars in Janesville who have more police calls dispatched to them than a donut shop with a sale. There are bars in Janesville where owners AND liquor license holders engage in lewd and lascivious acts on a regular basis. There are bars in Janesville where heroin can be ordered up just as easily and quickly as a shot of their top shelf tequila.
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The Halbachs, or their business, are not the only morally questionable folk in Janesville, contrary to popular belief.
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"Rev. Jim" has a bar just outside of the Madison city limits. The police have not been called there (and if so, not to a greater frequency than other establishments in the area). I'm NOT condoning what was alleged to have occurred at MeeMee's. But, if it looks like a witch hunt and smells like a witch hunt.......
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At the end of the day, it is for NONE of us to judge these people (dancers, johns, owners, etc..,) in the manner that they have been here on these blogs.
Jul 3, 2008 at 5:12 p.m.
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now yer concerned that im addicted to blogging about pot?? ill get counseling. pot IS my topic hannah, havent you figured that out yet?? i REALLY dont care if its off topic on a gazette blog. they have the rules down there so if people dont want to see my off topic comments, the gazette can remove em. feel free hannah to go thru my history and 'suggest removal' on all my pot posts. or feel free to do it for future posts otherwise you mite as well resign yoself to the fact that i will continue to spew forth my knowledge. oh yes, yes i will.....:)
Jul 3, 2008 at 3:28 p.m.
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Ouch! Such angry people...
Jul 3, 2008 at 3:02 p.m.
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kid youre the one that brought up being off topic was okay and for some reason youre mostly off topic when you bring your bowl into every blog- sounds like a bad addiction when you cannot blog one day w/o speaking of the pot. Why dont you stay on topic.
Jul 3, 2008 at 2:52 p.m.
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mymaro, both parties are culpable, not just one.
Jul 3, 2008 at 1:33 p.m.
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also gazettefan, as Ive said before i think the place is a dump and a terrible eyesore for this town. but to say Halbach is "forcing" those women is ludacris. it may not be a reputable business but its a business none the less.
Jul 3, 2008 at 1:30 p.m.
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gazettefan, the point is these women CHOOSE to do what they do. NO ONE forces them to do it. Do you understand that?
question withdrawn also, already know the answer.
Jul 3, 2008 at 1:18 p.m.
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hannah, you make me LOL, seriously. after all the points ive made, NOW, you point out bullet #8?? now?? you should stay focused yoself;) my last post wasnt even about the miracle drug, why you gotta always pick on me?? :)
Jul 3, 2008 at 1:03 p.m.
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Screemin Meemee's would be just like Broadway if we lived in New York. Maybe it wouldn't seem so bad if we moved it to the PAC.
Jul 3, 2008 at 12:58 p.m.
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RoadKing, I don't think the cops needed an interperator.
Jul 3, 2008 at 12:56 p.m.
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mymaro, if a woman asked you to degrade her and you did degrade her, are YOU off the hook?
Never mind; I withdraw the question.
Jul 3, 2008 at 12:55 p.m.
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I guess I thought villa sounded like a she - my bad. Should've said villa...I think villa is referring to everybody including him/her self which is weird talking about oneself in the third person like that.
Jul 3, 2008 at 12:52 p.m.
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How is providing modern interpretive dance not giving back to the community?
Jul 3, 2008 at 12:50 p.m.
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screemen meemees is a total dump. probably should be shut down. but for the person or persons who said that Mr. Halbach is preying on these women that is RIDICULOUS! Does he go to their houses and drag them in to dance? Nope. They come down there of their own free will, and willingly degrade themselves. NO ONE is forcing them to do so.
Jul 3, 2008 at 12:49 p.m.
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What's going on here? hiredgun sees subterfuge.
RoadKing, who's "she" and what does she mean?
Jul 3, 2008 at 11:45 a.m.
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:yawn:
This is so old.
It seems to me that Chief of Police is just pumping up his resume so he can run for sheriff.
Jul 3, 2008 at 11:37 a.m.
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lakenlady- I agree with you and I believe I already mentioned this in one of these blogs. How is "he giving to the community of janesville" by running a nasty place like that!!!!! NOT!!!!!!
Jul 3, 2008 at 11:34 a.m.
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can tyou read kid???
"Stay focused. Keep on the story's topic. " the 8th bullet on list below!!!!
Jul 3, 2008 at 10:26 a.m.
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I think she means us too gfan.
Jul 3, 2008 at 9:23 a.m.
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lakennedy, your post is right on.
garyprimer, you people know who you are.
Jul 3, 2008 at 9:13 a.m.
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these blog services are DESIGNED to let 'us people' voice our own opinions, whether on topic or not;)
Jul 3, 2008 at 9 a.m.
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Just wondering...
Regardless of the "level" of prostitution going on, and regardless of the "bad choices" being made by "desperate" women, does anyone on this page really feel --honestly feel-- that our community is a better place because of Screemin' MeeMee's? I don't know the Halbach's or their manager, but I do know that despite all of the bickering on this page, no one REALLY believes that a strip club (or a brothel) is an asset to any community. I know that there will be arguments made by some--probably Nurse--which will probably include things like "they're really good people" or "what about their civil liberties"? And I'm sure that these people are "really good" and I fully support civil liberties. But these arguments fail to address the fact that the Halbach's own a business that (in my opinion) can be adequately summarized as being the largest toilet in Janesville. Not only does it prey on desperate women, it has degraded the neighborhood. I grew up not far from there, and a lot of my childhood memories include walking down to Springbrook Grocery with my sisters to get a candybar, or some baseball cards--never to get a lapdance. Now I know that the Halbachs were well within their rights to open a strip club, but there is no denying that they did so without any concern for that community.
Jul 3, 2008 at 8:32 a.m.
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You people? What exactly are you implying with that term?
Jul 3, 2008 at 7:58 a.m.
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I don't think villa is feeling the love. Maybe a lap dance would help.
Jul 3, 2008 at 7:51 a.m.
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Hopefully it will all come out in the legal system but of course Halbach will try to save his butt by getting some high priced lawyer to take his case and go forward with his excuses - not my fault, I did not know this was going on, all the while raking in $$ for sex acts and juice. Just another one of those people that always blame others for negative things happening in the lives. Even as far as blaming the city for having sense enough to hold back another liquor license by claiming the city has it in for him. Look around you, accept the fact that he is not all that he is portraying.
Jul 3, 2008 at 7:50 a.m.
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backgurl, "innocent until proven guilty" is only a legal stance that prevents a person from being punished by the authorities until guilt is determined by a court of law.
"Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't mean the person didn't commite the crime. If he or she commited the crime, then that's a fact of life e.g. OJ.
Jul 3, 2008 at 7:44 a.m.
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Don't let the door hitya where the good lord splitya.
Jul 3, 2008 at 4:39 a.m.
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I wish I had a mullet.
Jul 3, 2008 at 2:49 a.m.
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justa note if so much prostitution was going on how come very few men were charged for solicitation?
Jul 3, 2008 at 2:47 a.m.
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Just because your charged with a crime doesn't make you guilty. What happened to innocent until proven guilty. I am no fan of strip clubs or prostitution, but innocent until proven guilty remanins to be seen. Yes the girls got off mostly with little or no consequences, i an curious to see what the outcome will be.
Jul 2, 2008 at 8:54 p.m.
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good post billnewbie. prolly the best ive read on why prostitution is where it is. i accept that im a criminal in the eyes of the law. i dont feel i SHOULD be, but i most def will go to jail if arrested and most def will tell the judge the same things i say here. most def the judge may not give a s**t, but he may. i dont completely agree with your point about not having legal choices. we have an absolute legal rite to take the proper steps and try to change the law. doesnt always work, the feds are STILL arresting medical marijuana smokers in CA, even tho they took the proper/legal steps at the state level to make it legal, but we do have the rite. reminder again about how many people were breaking the law during alcohol prohibition to eventually get that ridiculous law changed. legal/illegal does not define right/wrong or moral/immoral. at all.
Jul 2, 2008 at 8:05 p.m.
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Maybe some of the women that work there think they have little choice (they’re wrong). More likely they think that working there is their best choice (wrong again). These women, I’m sure, have a history of making bad choices or they wouldn’t be working there and turning tricks.
The johns and the managers (owners included) take advantage of these women. They view these women as disposable commodities who, when they are used up (or wise up), can be easily replaced with an endless supply of fresh, younger and just as easily exploited women.
We decided as a state and country a long time ago to write laws prohibiting the commercial sexual exploitation of people whether those people are willing participants or not. Those laws have been circumvented to some degree over the years by courts that have determined that nude gyrations against a pole, among other practices, is legally protected speech, but they have yet to strike down those laws that prohibit sexual contact for money, despite the fact that there may be a thin layer of cloth, or even a condom, between the participants.
Just as with marijuana, prostitution is illegal and we are compelled (that means we have no legal choice, thekid3477) to obey the law whether we agree with it or not and to do otherwise makes one a criminal whether one accepts that or not.
Jul 2, 2008 at 6:15 p.m.
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I've said what I've had to say and I am NOT saying it again. You have your views, I have mine. Let's agree to disagree and leave it that.
PS I was only trying to change the subject. wasn't trying to work anything for me.