I wonder if the UAW and the employee's of GM can now connect the dots? Janesville plant produced what may be Chevy's biggest gas user. So what do the employee's do? The vote in all the goverment members that love trees, won't drill for oil or let us build refinerys. Now that the price of oil is 125 a barrel( and going up) they still do see the light. Let's blame GM management.( If it is true that Americans love SUV's why are they not buying them?) Problem is boy's, I can not afford $100.00 a week in fuel

I worked there, now I don't......that's why ImgladileftGM! If you are too stupid to figure that out then I see why you work a brainless job. For the record I never said I still work at GM. All you are doing is stirring up trouble. Why don't you spend more time on here and read the posts...oh wait.....it looks like that's all you do...and you say you have a life? pathetic I might add!! Same ol thing happends down at the "plant."

chad... imglad said that he still works at GM ?? before he said that he no longer worked there ?? I don't think he EVER worked at GM ?? Sounds to me he doesn't know what he does ..LOL

ImgladileftGM, Don't need a W2, just wondering where you work that you can rip on hard working people all the time. Like I said, I work at GM - you know that. Tell us what you do that makes you sooooo much better than us. You sound threatened by such a simple question, that makes me wonder what makes you think you are better than everyone.
And the redundant and moronic reference to the local bar makes your statements lack credibility. I don't drink alcohol, so you apparently have been in that bar many more times than I have ( Zero). And as far as "tough guy", I just don't take crap from thugs the likes of you.

chad_vader...so did you want me to mail you my w2? so if i tell you where I work are you going to atleast come by for a visit so I can show you how real people work? oh yea....buy me lunch? If your such a tough guy tell me who you are and what job you worked on? or better yet which bar stool did you sit on at zachhouse and get drunk at lunch...because i had to go in there a few times.

High class people would not be ripping on people losing their jobs, making up lies to as "what they have seen or heard about" , or pretend their lives are just so much better. The amount of money you make does not mean your life is better than others, there are priceless things like family and freinds that makes a person truly wealthy. And with the time we spend here at GM it is like a 2nd family. So you can see, losing jobs is only one part of this tragedy.

WeregladyougotfiredfromGM...... er ...ImgladIleftGM, what exactly is your job ??? You know what we do, where do you work??Thing is about children like you is you like to take shots at other people without giving any indication or proof as to why anyone would care about what you say. Afraid to tell us what great job you work at ???

To ImgladyouleftGM: I may have been fired up before, but I genuinely laughed out loud when I read your last 2 posts. Laughter is a good release. I can only think you were doing that on purpose, for my sake, knowing no one would take your last exaggerated post seriously. If so, I genuinely appreciate the effort.
Jvlhero-I agree, way too many posts repeating the same insults followed by too many posts defending people who need no defense. Those of us who made misguided attempts to do that were merely reacting to posts like your earlier ones and those of the “leftGM” guy. These workers are a tough lot, they’ll fare well. This will be a challenging place to start over, so I hope some opportunities present themselves to the workers of those other affected companies. You and I may be much more fortunate (for the moment)-but it just bewilders me how we can have such contrasting views on this dilemma affecting so many families.

weregladyouleftgm, you really should read up on union history, capitalism, and how wages are set before going off.
But I guess you 1st need to study jelousy to get a grip on why you post these comments.

RUSerious..BTW They make waaaayyyyy to much money for doing brainless work. They should be getting paid minumum wages. I know what these people do. I wish I could forward time and talk to these people when they are working for another company that doesn't hand out golden parachutes everytime they fall and get hurt. Maybe then they would appreciate the jobs they had at GM and wouldn't have taken advantage of the company and hide behind big momma (Union) to protect them for being lousy employees. That's the only thing I saw that the union was good for was protecting the worthless pathetic losers that don't deserve to breath.

RUSerious..boy you get fired up! I like that! Well back to work, someone has to do it.

I believe that would be the 1st time that I would have to agree with you JanesvilleHero...except about the not caring about the people. The rest of the smack talking is really not very impressive.
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No, RUSerious, I still have my same name. I just get bored reading these articles about a company I don't care about and people losing their jobs that I don't care about. And I lose interest in leaving comments sometimes because...well...take a look below. What high class quality comments. Check other cities like Madison or Milwaukee for their online articles and read the comments. Much more educated. People whine about GM. Then people like you whine about people that whine. You get so riled up over words written here that I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds you amusing. And pathetic.

imgladileftgm: Point 1: (since you need my points enumerated) You’ve got that right-my posts ARE long.
Point 2: You’re saying “Well I’m off to count all my money I received for taking a better job than GM!”, (yeah right!) yet you berate GM workers who don’t have it as good as you do because they are still working at the same job they may have taken 10, 20, 30 or more years ago? Which is it; they’re making too much, not enough, or...? I was wondering if “Janesvillehero” took another name. That statement could very well be attributed to him!
Point 3: You say I have 3rd grade grammar? Point it out if you can find it. I’ve heard others say on these blogs that if someone can’t think of something bad enough to say about someone they disagree with, they point out minor verbal issues. Go ahead, make my day, retrain me, keeping in mind we’re not writing college theses here. (By the way, since you’re so particular, that’s the plural of thesis, not the plural of these.)

I just want to say there are a lot of GM employees who have no business whining about what they are going to do after GM closes, I drove by the parking lot while running errands and saw every type of competitors vehicles in the parking lot-if they were proud of their product wouldn't they be driving it, and profits wouldn't be falling because of it? Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

mooshoo...just as Toyota and Honda fans are now.

RUSerious...did you take a breath saying all of that? I didn’t think it was possible to babble that long without making a point. I actually had a hard time reading the 3rd grade grammar you spewed out. Well I’m off to count all my money I received for taking a better job than GM! Take care and don’t talk about this too much. I’ll be retired before all of you people move on and let it go.

ihavealife: Of course you are right-I respect the comments you have made. I apologize.
I meant imgladileftgm, and the way he got excited about the prospect of seeing GM torn down-you know-like some people who drive slowly by car accidents in case there are mangled bodies to see. And now that I look more closely at the name-I won’t ask, but would hazard some guesses as to why he says he is in a better place now: he left GM because he thought he should not accept such good pay/benefits and they refused to give him less, or-he found better pay/benefits (in which case-how dare he say others shouldn’t get what they get) or....the more likely situation, he couldn’t keep the job there-(their idea or his?)
imgladileftgm? You really think that a dozen (or ?) jobs at Burger King (though respectable employment and important to the worker and customers they might be) would or even should have the impact several thousand family supporting jobs would have on the city OR on the individual? I can think of dozens of places in the area always actively seeking this category of food service workers, offhand-can’t think of any jobs to replace the GM/Lear and other affected employee jobs. Can you? Actually you’d probably complain if displaced GM (etc) workers now tried to take the area Burger King jobs away from others who are “more entitled”. Don’t lose any sleep over it though.

imglad.....Is Burger King your new line of work after GM .

All of this is why ImgladileftGM!!!!! I can't understand why Burger King didn't get this much attention when it closed?

RUSerious .... I don't understand your last comment about imgladihavealife ?? Did you mean to say "imgladileftgm".I hope that's a typo because I find NOTHING funny or joyous in any of this.

Shine-you sure DON'T see GM people complaining-they are not. Don’t bother asking about it, either. These same...um...(wait while I look up the term vultures to make sure I'm not libeling anyone.) anyway these same people say the same over and over-GM whiners, GM complainers.....but I even asked once to see some of the complaining quotes-I’ve looked myself-it keeps being the same-the complaints and whining ALL comes from the ones who hate those making a excellent wage for a good days work at GM.
YES-many others’ jobs will be affected! NO-they’re not all from GM-why oh why is that the fault of the GM worker-either the GM related articles OR the fact that they can’t save the other’s jobs? (Why continuously try to use logic to them, though?) As a matter of fact-YOU real complainers are the ones wishing the Lear, SSI etc jobs away when you wish GM jobs away.
Notice the imgladihavealife (yeah right!) gleeful comment about how exciting it will be to see all those jobs being ground up by machines? THAT’S the kind of mind you’re dealing with here.

latest J.D. Power quality tracking: GM ties Ford ,Honda, Toyota as producing the greatest number of award recognized vehicles. GM had fewer recalls in 2007 than HONDA, TOYOTA, HYUNDAI and Ford. Our local plant averaged 52 PPH (problems per hundred), tied for 5th place out of 26 GM North America plants. Arlington was 57 PPH and Silao (Mexico) was 54, yet who gets the axe??? Just goes to show, being the best is not always a security blanket.
But for all those who complain about GM's quality being inferior how do you explain all these accolades ??

progressive6.. That video of Linden going down was awesome. Soon it will be much more exciting seeing it live in Janesville!

This summer will be tough as the labor market will be flooded, making it hard for kids in high school and college to find summer jobs, which will just put more strain on the parents. Anyone who thinks this is funny or a great time is not fit to be a human.

The horror I never wanted to see happen to the Janesville GM plant, is now going to take place. This plant provided many families over generations a good standard of living. It also provided a city with tax revenue all citizens shared in, whether you think so or not. Here is a link to something so awful I hope not to see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4eABh6af...

Shine & ihavealife - you should congratulate snarly. He just graduated from the 6th grade last week and is SOOO excited to start middle school. Still needs work on his meandering posts, but we have a good laugh at them.
Ralph - is that caveman talk?
Gstrube - how true!!!

After reading through all of the posts listed below, I have to say that I'm incredibly disappointed. Regardless of your personal views regarding GM and its employees, the entire city will be affected by its closing.

I think that a more appropriate response would be compassion and encouragement. Things are pretty tough all over right now, what is the sense in making things worse by throwing out cheap shots at people who just lost their jobs? Nothing like kicking people when their down...

My work truck is a 93 Silverado that I bought brand new. Its got 212000 miles on it and runs and looks GREAT. NEVER a major problem in the 15 years Ive owned it. worst thing was had to put on an alternator and a water pump. The truck has NEVER left me stranded. Same truck that towed my neighbors crapota to Harms for that $500 timing belt.

wahoo, good luck with those piles of wasted metal in your garage. There will always be a trusty AMERICAN vehicle around to tow you to the local repair shop and hopefully youll be able to get to the bank after that to put a second mortgage on your house to pay for the repairs.

Does anyone remember the billboards and advertisements in the sixty's that proclaimed:"America...the highest standard of living in the World." Why don't we see those anymore? The issue of G.M. closing here in Janesville is a drop in the bucket compared to the issues facing America workers throughout the nation. The right-wing, pro-business Republican party is determined to lower our standard of living in favor of cheap overseas and south of the border labor. The American worker is being forced to accept lower wages and a lower standard of living in the name of global competition. Not just the auto industry, but across the entire manufacturing base, what's left of it anyway. Yet the products produced by the cheap labor rarely seem to cost any less than when they are produced by higher paid American workers. It seems the only advantage to agreements such as NAFTA and CAFTA are to fatten the retirement packages of big business CEO's

snarly.... Give me a break...... The last time GM went on strike it lasted a DAY... Do YOU remember the last time the LOCAL went on strike before 2007 ??? No comment about my last post ?? You need to GROW UP and GET A LIFE !!! These are families that you find the need to be so NASTY and MEAN about ! If you think this will not touch your life,think again.If you live in this area YOU WILL be affected one way or another .

How can thing be less productive as they were.

Sure, they have commented, but not to complain. If they did complain, it was probably only due to ridiculous comments about them complaining, which they haven't done. I don't believe anyone has made any comments either about not caring about those even greater affected. GM employees DID NOT ask for the numerous articles highlighting them.

laughwuvlife worte: "GM Janesville is getting a new product, should be up and running in about 17 months."
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Please share more......

shine6 wake up a good portion of the people who have put their comments in are GM people or their family and the fact is GM is closing and alot of people that work at GM are going to be out on the street with no job. and the supplier's. No one seem's to care about them when GM go's on strike and they get laid off nobody seem's to care about them and their work, family , ect. so lets talk about those people who don't get 80-90 percent of their wage's and try to get by on unemployment,

Snarly-You're right, now my husband will have to go get a job for less money. (Just like he had before GM called out of the blue and offered him a job based on an application he had sent in 5 yrs prior.) I've stated before that we have/do/and will continue to live in the real world when this is all said and done. As for the boohoo comment, it's funny that not yet have I seen any whining or complaining or crying from anyone that is a GM employee.

Lets take the money that people made working at GM out of this just for a minute !!! In all total on the low numbers there will be 4000 people WITHOUT jobs... On the conserative side this will affect 12,000 people thats ONLY if the family is mom,dad and 1 child... So you see ALL the money in the world in the good years doesn't help now when families won't even have a job to to have the basic needs !! When people think they could or do better than others those are the ones that really have no clue what THE REAL WORLD is all about !!! Janesville is a town that thinks if you live on the right side of town ,drive the right car,the right clothes your children are blonde and blue eyed you're better than the others !!! Welcome to the NEW JANESVILLE !!! No one is going to be the same for a very long time !!

Let's rip down that building and put in Lake Janesville

booohooo welcome to the real world now that GM is closing up you will have to go find a new job for less money it suck's but that is the chance you take in janesville GM market.

Whatever, just put us out of our misery...I am ready to move someshere else. Janesville always was the armpit of wis..All most people do here is work and drink...good riddens...maybe it will be quieter with less "dual exhaust on four wheel drive trucks and harleys"....peace

GM Janesville is getting a new product, should be up and running in about 17 months.

Thank god you are not at GM snarly, you would be used by others to give us a bad reputation.

vader get a life???got one and it's not with GM. HA HA.

J.D. very poignant comment, but if true, Badger fans would rejoice.

"Selling Kia's in Janesille is like selling Badger Basketball to Marquette fans."

Unless Marquette pulls out of Milwaukee.

Abe - a word to the wise. Selling Kia's in Janesille is like selling Badger Basketball to Marquette fans. I respect your opinion, but you are pushing up hill.

Looks like closing is just around the corner. Who wants to pay $$ a day to make only 440 trucks? Follow the rats because the Titanic is going under fast!

slushfun, I don't think anyone here is really looking backwards. Change is bound to happen. But I also feel the theory that our quality is inferior to others is just an outdated reality that is no more. Will people have bad experiences like wahoo? Yes. But my sister has a Honda that I could write a book about how bad it was.Toyota has had more quality problems while it has gotten bigger. GM has won many awards for quality from independent reviewers. i of course own a GM car and just love it. Our plant was more efficient and had better quality than the Mexican plant, yet who got the axe? Things are not always that simple. I hope when those who stay upgrade their skills that there will be LOCAL jobs for them to work at. We need more buisnesses to keep the good workers we have here in Janesville.

mymaro-Kia's are good cars. You obviously haven't been in one since about 2001,when they were Coffee cans on wheels or you had a roughly driven low-end model rental. I've had Kia for 3 years now, I've not had one problem. Compared to a Cavalier, Cobalt, or Aveo-- these cars are well built and affordable. As far as refinement, they're not quite Honda's yet, but they're much nicer than many American cars when you consider build quality an value.

chad vader, I wonder what the real story is too. My point in posting stories about expansion plans in the auto industry is that we need to have an informed, realistic view of where the market is headed. No, I'm not going to buy a Kia. I have my eye on a Malibu hybrid. But even in Japan, new auto jobs are going for $22/hour and you can't argue with the quality coming out of those plants. Beemers made in South Carolina where the starting wage is $14.50. I don't like it but that is what the market will bare. Wishing the world would rewind to 1975 is, well, unrealistic. Individuals need to constantly upgrade their skills so that they have a place in the labor market. Not just when they are young; it's a lifelong journey. We as a nation have embraced competition as founding principle of our society. It's, as they say, a full contact sport. And it doesn't alway feel fair. The market weeds out inefficiency and rewards innovation. Consumer tastes are fickle. The Chinese love Buicks. Go figure.

I had a 07 Chevy truck. The tail light fell out the first week I had it. A trim piece had to be repaired three times and one of the speakers was shot. I was very happy to unload that P.O.S! I have two Hondas parked in my garage now.

GM's only subcompact is the Aveo...built in Korea by Daewoo. And a crappy little car it is.

500 dollar timing belt. what a joke. replace my timing chain in my Chevy truck for $21

matter of fact my toyota owning neighbor owes me one after towing his rice burner to Harms for him after it broke down on him. God that was the best tow ive ever had to do.

yeah lets go build a KIA. like driving around in a coffee can on wheels. When my CHEVY was totalled in an accident the other drivers insurance company provided me with a rental vehicle and it was a KIA. WHAT A RAT TRAP THAT WAS!!!!! Rode like it had no shocks at all, radio stunk, and it only had 8,000 miles. Ill take my CHEVY over any stinkin KIA and/or Toyota for that matter.

slushfund - I just wonder what is the real story compared to what the companies like Kia & Toyota let their PR departments tell everyone. GM is also promoting " a plant will be made a friendly and productive atmosphere where each team member will be treated with dignity and respect." That sounds great, like they want to hear our ideas, but when you cut through all the BS it is still management that runs the show. Somehow I find it hard to believe that these places are the "dream" job's of the auto industry too.
I see where Toyota is squeazing the suppliers to match costs from China. Got to just love this New World Order we have now! Maybe we can use the GM plant as a Museum of the Middle Class so future generations can see what will be soon a myth.

To all the people here crying and complaining about GM workers crying and complaining about GM closing ( or closeing as the apparently more educated say), you must realize that your opinion is old, boorish, and very repetitive by now. You know who you are. So get a life...

Kia's hiring

BY TONY ADAMS -ledger-enquirer.com --

It was a moment nearly two years in the making Tuesday, and one that thousands of job prospects have been anxiously awaiting.

With a yank, Byung Mo Ahn, president of Kia Motors Manufacturing Georgia Inc., pulled down a banner on the wall behind him, uncovering the words: "Now hiring!"

Preliminary estimates from the Georgia Department of Labor indicate as many as 30,000 people will take part in the scramble to fill roughly 2,500 jobs up for grabs at the Kia auto assembly plant being built in West Point, Ga., off Interstate 85 between LaGrange and the Alabama state line. It's the automaker's first such facility in North America.

Another 3,000 or so auto-related jobs are expected to be created by parts suppliers clustering in the vicinity to do business with the factory.

The signing ended fierce competition between several Southeastern states to land the factory.

Ken Stewart, commissioner of the Georgia Department of Economic Development, ticked off the dizzying numbers behind the project -- a $1.2 billion investment, nearly 2,200 acres, production of 300,000 vehicles per year, and a $4 billion economic impact for the state.

The pay range for production "team members" will be $14.90 to $23.50 per hour, while maintenance and tool and die employees will be paid $20.80 per hour to start, topping out at $27 per hour. A rotating shift premium will add $1 per hour.

"Performance expectations will be high at KMMG," said Randy Jackson, director of human resources at the Kia factory. "Each team member will be encouraged to contribute their knowledge, experience and ideas to equip KMMG in growing our organization. The KMMG plant will be made a friendly and productive atmosphere where each team member will be treated with dignity and respect."

More insight into what is happening in the auto industry worldwide....

BusinessWeek -- In the midst of a dramatic earnings slump, Toyota, Nissan, and Honda are ramping up production fast. Not in the U.S., their most profitable market, but back in Japan, where domestic auto sales just hit a 25-year low.

Every major Japanese automaker is building plants at home or adding capacity to existing ones. A Toyota subsidiary is constructing a 120,000-car plant in Miyagi, north of Tokyo. It's Toyota's first such plant in Japan since 1993. Nissan, which not so long ago was slashing production in the country, is expanding capacity by 22% at its Kyushu factory. Honda is spending $1.5 billion on a new factory and engine plant in Saitama, just outside Tokyo.

Why all the outlays? After all, Japan remains an expensive place to make cars, with wages 10 times higher than in China. A shrinking population is causing labor shortages. The yen's recent 15% surge against the dollar makes Japan-made cars even pricier. Throw in contracting domestic sales, and the moves seem to defy business logic.

One explanation is the flexibility that the investment brings. Japan's high-tech plants excel at switching production from one model to another. That's especially useful when auto demand is sinking or flat in mature markets but surging in the Middle East, Russia, China, and India. Nissan's Kyushu plant, for example, exports to 160 markets and produces eight different models on a single production line.

Japanese engineers and workers, while more expensive than their counterparts in developing markets, are still a good deal. One reason is that Japan's wage levels, after barely rising in a decade, are not as high as they once were relative to other developed countries. According to consultant AlixPartners, Japanese industrial workers in 2006 made around $22 an hour, just two-thirds the level in Germany. Moreover, it's still rare in Japan for workers to switch from one automaker to another, so a well-trained, seasoned workforce is a given. "It's not so expensive in Japan, and when you consider the quality, motivation, and diligence with which people work, the value-for-money is unbeatable," says Markus Schädlich, president of Karmann Japan

Just so you know what the economic development market is like down south....

NASHVILLE — Tennessee could be at a competitive disadvantage in a battle with Alabama over a proposed Volkswagen plant if government financial incentives turn out to be the key factor in the automaker's decision on where to build the facility. Volkswagen said in April that it would decide in July whether to build a U.S. assembly facility, and that if it does, the plant would be built in Tennessee, Alabama or Michigan.

Analysts and economic-development experts believe that Michigan is an extremely long shot to win the plant.

But if incentives are the key, Alabama might have the upper hand because that state has a history of pledging hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and other incentives to automakers and other industries on single projects to persuade them to build plants in the state.

For those three plants, Alabama initially spent a combined $664.5 million dollars in public funds for such items as site preparation, roads, rail spurs, utilities and tax breaks.

In comparison, Tennessee has attracted two auto assembly plants: Nissan's Smyrna facility in 1983, followed by General Motors Corp.'s Saturn plant in Spring Hill in 1985. Together, those two projects received just $95.6 million in state incentives.

And this year, Tennessee is spending up to $35 million to retrain workers at the former Saturn plant so GM can build a new Chevrolet crossover utility vehicle there, bringing back 2,400 workers laid off when the Saturn plant closed in March 2007.

But to show how far Alabama will go to attract a major new industry, the state put up $817 million — $314 million in cash — to land the German steel maker ThyssenKrupp near Montgomery last year.

In the battle for the Volkswagen plant, which could employ up to 2,000 people initially and represent a $1 billion investment by the German automaker, Alabama is ready to "do whatever it takes to win," Alabama Development Office Director Neal Wade said.

"Volkswagen has not yet told us what they need" in the way of incentives, he said. "But when they do, we're ready to give them what they ask for."

"The governor's instructions are that we be competitive, aggressive and creative in dealing with Volkswagen, and it is our intention to win this project," he said.

Last year, the Alabama legislature gave the governor a $400 million fund, provided by a bond issue, to bring new industries to the state.

Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen has included $100 million in a discretionary fund in the state's 2009 budget, now under consideration by the legislature, which could be used to provide incentives such as site improvements and job training to bring new jobs.

to all those people who cry and complain about GM closeing wake up to the real world people get laid off and lose their jobs every day what make's you so important,go out and find another job go back to school,janesville will still be here in the long run,

Despite slashing some 8,000 jobs worldwide, BMW plans to hire more workers to man its Spartanburg, S.C. production center, while simultaneously upping the night shift from eight hours to ten. The South Carolina plant currently produces the X5 and Z4, but with production of the X6 CUV beginning a few weeks back, BMW is looking to staff an additional 200 jobs to keep the assembly plant on boil. Those of you looking for jobs in the Spartanburg area should expect to bring in $12.50 an hour during the day shift and additional buck if you're willing to toil away in the wee hours of the night.

[Source: Automotive News – Sub. Req.]

i hope your post was purely sarcstic.

hey booner, i got some ocean front property in Arizona to seel you to if you believe that line of crap from Oscama

chad_vader...Nice post!

cbm8354 - if you feel you are underpaid why don't you do something about it instead of complaining about what others make. Fools like you are always whining about something. And as for Lear and LSI, it is not that we don't feel bad for them too as they will have even a tougher time, but pray tell what should we be doing to help them besides to continue to build good vehicles trying to convince GM to retool (yes, I know that is a very small chance) and maybe save their jobs. You have many complaints but no solutions. As they say, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Look in the mirror El Problemo.

Cfox: You ever here of sarcasm?

Here is a look at may be next. Soon a new plant manager and crew will be brought in, as GM has people with expertise in winding down operations.Soon after, the good engineers and supervisors will be transfered to plants with new products. New low level supervisors will be brought in that fulfills govt quotas,lawsuit settlements, relatives of someone at a high level. and generally incompetent people unwanted at other plants. Money to fix machinery will not be there, instead overtime be offered as there are funds allocated for shutdown.10 hours a day and some saturdays help morale. Workers will see survey crews all arond the complex with strict orders not to talk to anyone.Near the end the media will get press reports on how quality levels are the same as ever, although the last runs will be sent to the middle east or rental companies, never to dealers. Skilled trades will be given unlimited overtime to remove equipment, and within 6 months of decomission the demolition begins, at least this is what has happened dozens of times in dozens of different cities. GM has this down to science. Good luck Janesvile.

Booner: Unfortunately, there isn't anyone that can magically fix this mess. Gas prices will not go down. Europe has been paying up the kazoo for years. China is demanding more oil then ever. It will only continue to go up.

All you GM people crying. What about the people at Lear and LSI who don't get a buy out?? They only get unemployment. You guys couldn't even live off unemployment. You guys are getting more money in a buy out than most hard working people make in a year. Most other jobs when they go under there isn't even a buy out chance at least you go that. People like me with a college degree don't even make that much money a year.

Everyone should just relax. I saw Obama on TV lastnight and he has a plan to fix everything. As soon as he gets voted in we will all have jobs, and gas prices will drop immediately. And finally those rich bastards will get what they have coming.

The plant in Arlington is still running at full production (from what I understand) and even has some overtime. They build SUVs too. There's still a demand. There will always be someone buying an SUV -- many construction companies use them, for example. SUVs aren't going to disappear off the face of the Earth.

Who's going to buy the 440? Gas just went over $4/gallon. Are the people who run GM complete idiots? Continue to ignore the fact that no one wants your damn gas guzzlers!

Simple...don't post rumors. It's hard enough separating fact from fiction.

I wasn't trying to get everyone riled up. I just wanted to see if anyone knew anything more about this. Sorry.

Unidentified you are correct in saying that if they do (if) it will be for the removal of equipment. Cullen has operations in Milwaukee along with it's own rigging operation. Besides when is the last time anyone can remember not having a Cullen job trailer parked at the plant. This should be no surprise.

Rumors are simply that. However, people must consider the millions of dollars and outside labor required to move equipment out of the plant. So when it comes to the JP Cullen rumor, it may be true, but for the wrong reasons.

Cullen does indeed have an "evergreen" contract with GM. So what?
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Yet another local employer to take a hit once GM closes the doors.

Nobleone I thought you said in another post you were going to move? So hey go right ahead I don't believe anyone in this town will miss you! And there is truth to the contract with JP cullen it's not that much though and I'm not going to go into detail with what it concerns on comment section so it could get totally blown out of portion like everything else does!!!

ap2533jvl...Right on target, he/she has nothing better to do. Nobleone... a misnomer if I've ever heard of one!

I would imagine if there is any truth to the rumor, that JP Cullen would be under orders to not discuss it.

MOCO428, I heard that rumor, too. As did my in-laws' neighbor who works at GM. The neighbor went right to the source, JP Cullen. He called and asked about it and was told by the person at JP Cullen that there is no truth to that rumor whatsoever.

what will the GM Gazette write about tomorrow??

Just shut the doors already.

This is just a rumor that I heard so it may not be true..... I heard GM had a 40-60 million dollar contract with JP Cullen? Does anyone know if this is true? If so what might that be about.