Four in custody after burglarizing beer depot

I love how people are saying they made a mistake. Oops I'm sorry I accidently broke into your home while you were gone. I only did it because I wanted to drink. I'll know better next time. Maybe you shouldn't leave your home for days on end. If you leave your house unattended you should be arrested for abdonment. Oh I forgot to add I'm just a kid. Give me a break.

That was a lovely comment.

Most of the comments here are not about the actual burglary and theft, but about people who want to justify or diminish what they did. Unreal.

awb86 "learnthefacts said "Yeah, they got speeding tickets and maybe underages, but MOST kids in janesville get those." I can inform you that I know many "kids" in Janesville that have not gotten any of those. You know why? Because most of the people I know, know right from wrong." Hey awb86 I certainly know right from wrong i was in the top 20% of my g raduating class and have a speeding ticket and underage...whats your point? every kid in town should stay home every night and not rebel once in a while, or have an active social life??

thank you doglover! that's exactly what I was trying to say.

Wis. Statutes 943.10
Whoever intentionally enters any of the following places without the consent of the person in lawful possession and with intent to steal or commit a felony in such place is guilty of a Class F felony:Any building or dwelling;
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It doesn't matter if the door / window is open, closed or even locked. It's still a burglary. Criminal trespass is NOT a lesser included offense of burglary.
What makes it a burglary is INTENT TO STEAL.
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The DA can file lesser charges for whatever reason but in this case burglary is what fits.

Perfect point doglover, that's why the burgluary charge got dropped because what these boys in fact took part in was criminal trespass... not a felony. Therefore, I find it perfectly in line that the felony be dropped, the felony was simply imposed to scare the boys and let them know what could come of this. The point of this whole case isn't to justify the boys actions, it's to really show them what the consequences are.

sorry learnthefacts on diamonbacks comment

what is the point diamnd back on the divorce rate-

you have to do crimes if you come from split up family? again blaming life and not the criminal

Where on earth do some of you get off thinking that just because the door was open/unlocked that this should change things???? This was not property that they were invited to by the owner. What they did is called is called trespassing. There was property taken out that did not belong to them. That is called theft. It is very plain and simple. If you left you home unlocked, does that give me permission to go in and take your property??? Do you hear how lame that sounds???

Regardless of whether they are "good little angels" or have had a ticket or two in their past, I'm sure they know that taking things that don't belong to them is wrong. Stop making excuses for them. They did the crime, now they should have to do the time. I can't hardly fathom any more how some people in Janesville continually defend the actions of people who break the law. I make plenty of mistakes(I'm human), but I don't expect my family and friends to defend my choices. I would expect them to support me through the consequences and help me to make better choices the next time.

These young men are human as well and unfortunately made a mistake, a big one. Stop defending them and help them re-learn a lesson from childhood that they forgot....don't take something that does not belong to you.

Learnthefacts, you have no idea what you're even saying do you?? I told you, I don't care what they get charged for or if they get charged at all. I'm just saying, they made a stupid mistake and they deserve what they get. Why do you keep saying that I'm wrong in this?? And also, awb86 isn't a hyprocrite, seeing as he isn't friends with these idiots. You are so biased in your thinking, you're very ignorant and I feel sorry that you can't understand anything these people are saying. It's quite pathetic.

Hey diamondback, 75% of the kids in the pictures come from divorced parents.

awb86 said, "They are cocky kids who feel that they can get away with anything they do and this was the wake up call they needed. Kevin and Nick acted the same way back in high school, walked around like they were better than others." and then you said "Because most of the people I know, know right from wrong." way to not be a hypocrite. Maybe the people you know that know the difference between right and wrong just dont get caught, maybe they are like the majority of janesville teens.

learnthefacts said "Yeah, they got speeding tickets and maybe underages, but MOST kids in janesville get those." I can inform you that I know many "kids" in Janesville that have not gotten any of those. You know why? Because most of the people I know, know right from wrong. So the next time you make a statement, dont assume that everyone does something wrong or illegal just because you and your friends do.

What is CCAP ??

This is just a case of GOOD KIDS showing their TRUE COLORS.I guess if you have the RIGHT address,come from a two parent household, mom and dad work hard....Junior just made a MISTAKE.PLEASE these are kids that don't have to go by the rules!!!! MOMMY AND DADDY have told them so.There sure has been a lot of GOOD KIDS in the news lately!!

Most of you need to get it straight. All of these guys are good guys you don't even know and yet you are still making conclusions by their prior "records". You can go on CCAP and find out that they have been in trouble with the law. But what you will find on there is nothing more than what you'd find on most other kids also. Yeah, they got speeding tickets and maybe underages, but MOST kids in janesville get those. You need to stop assuming that they all went and broke down a door to get in, when it has been said that different kids had done it early that night. This was their first time doing it and its terrible that the gazette leads you to believe it was them behind it the whole time. Also, I know for a fact that Kevin never even entered the store. He NEVER went on the property of the Super Abandoned Depot. Get it right

They haven't been pardoned for everything, they just dropped the felony... They're all first time offenders and have clean records. Now it would be different if they broke in as first time offeneders and stole things. But to walk in, they've never been to jail, they didn't know what the consequences would be. Point is, they're whole life shouldn't be flushed down the toilet from this one stupid screw up, you gotta learn somehow.

I don't care what kind of charges they get, whatever they get is what they deserve. I'm not the law, I can't decide what charges to give them. I'm just saying, they knew that they were breaking the law when they walked into that place, they knew if they were to get caught it would mean big trouble. Even if you're their friend, you should know that's what happens when you break the law. And they're not stupid, they know that.

It is a state run site and it was opened to the public, now it has been recognized that the abuse of the site outwieghs it's usefulness. Thus, while it will still be available online it will require a password, which will be issued to those that it is determined need access to it. All the information contained in it will still be available at your local courthouse- Clerk of Courts.

again, martintanely, just because the door wasn't locked doesn't make it ok. I hate that you people think that these kids should be pardoned of everything because of a little "teenage mischief" or because you know them. I have a good feeling that if you know them, you know this is something they'd do. It doesn't surprise me, and it shouldn't suprise you either. We just shouldn't have law enforcement then should we? I mean, if everyone know's someone, everyone would let people off because "they knew they made a mistake and that's not like them". We have laws for reasons.

crap i mean't olivialyn, sorry bout that

Alright SaraB, about the whole "they still went in and they deserve what we got deal." I can guarantee you, because i know these boys, that if that door was locked, these guys would've chickened out in no time. We can all agree that it takes a different kind of thought process to break open a locked door then to walk in a door that's open. It is for this reason most likely they dropped the felony charge, not because they felt bad for them.

intheloop, there is a state lawmaker trying to make CCAP not available on the "open" internet, but hopefully he will not prevail in his pursuit. Used correctly, it can be a very valuable tool. A friend of mine recently told me about a guy that she met at work (they worked in the same building but for different companies). He seemed nice and eventually asked her out. Before her first date with him, we looked him up on CCAP. Turns out, he's had various domestic battery charges against him as well as a couple of DUIs. The domestic battery charges all involved disorderly conduct situations and with different women. Seems this nice guy had alchohol and anger management problems. Nothing my friend wanted to get herself involved in. Thanks to CCAP, she was able to avoid the situation entirely.

ccap not only shows criminal records..it shows divorces, judgments, etc, etc, etc. u know things that used to be part of ones personal lives!!

It is the abuse of information like this why CCAP will soon only be viewable online for law enforcement and related services. The information will still be open to the public but you will have to go down to the courthouse to get the information.

CCAP is public record. Anyone can look up anyone for any reason. If they don't want to be on CCAP, then my advice would be to not break the law. Simple!

These guys deserved to get caught and arrested. They are cocky kids who feel that they can get away with anything they do and this was the wake up call they needed. Kevin and Nick acted the same way back in high school, walked around like they were better than others. Also, what they did still registers as "breaking and entering" even though the building (as most of you say) was not securely locked up. You know why it still counts? BECAUSE IT WASNT THEIR PROPERTY! They knowingly broke into a building that was owned by someone else and decided to try and take the owners property, so all of these guys' friends can stop saying and posting that they did nothing wrong. Also, they should leave the conviction on Craig T. Nandory's record. He made the mistake so he should face the consiquences. Who cares if it ruins his future, he should not have done it in the first place. In conclusion, everyone who knows these guys knew that they would one day end up in jail for something stupid. Guess they just wanted to end up there faster than everyone thought.

Mommyropes, this owner hasn't been out of the country prevented by Home Land Security from returning. He's been sitting in Illinois with his head in the sand.

Fortunately, after 11 breakins since 01/07, the authorities have gotten him to respond. And it took going into the business and removing his inventory to do it.

Its amazing to me how critical people can be. How easy it is to blurt out opinions before knowing facts..my god..stay off of CCAP!!!..is it truly anybodys business whats on there?..Unless your on their looking for yourselves!

If they end up in prison, they can start another crappy band and tour around other prisons.

Two good-news items have come about today: One, the 17-year-old college-bound youth will not have to face felony charges but, rather, a misdemeanor theft charge. Even I would have hated to see him face a possible felony conviction that could ruin a good kid's future. Many professionals are denied career-related licenses if they have been convicted of a felony. In addition, a lot of jobs become out of bounds when one has a burglary charge, much less a conviction. After speaking with a friend of his family earlier tonight, I now realize that Craig N. is a good kid who made a stupid mistake. In fact, it sounds like all four of the accused are nowhere near being "hardened criminals." (And, Lord, knows we already have too many people jailed for some silly crimes.) So, my apologies to Craig for my comments regarding the "smiling mugshot." I really do hope things turn out well for you and the others. Second good-news item is that the police have removed all liquor from the Depot. Word on the streets has the booze temporarily stored and guarded by a very large dog.

Alright, so I know these kids too. Just because a building is "open and not locked up" doesn't make it any right for them. They knew what they were doing, and they have to deal with the consequences. They are stupid kids who have always done stupid things and it does not surprise me one bit.

I personally know all of these kids better than anyone whos commented so far. I think it's best that you know the facts before you start pretending you all know what your talking about. The store has been abandonded for several months and I assure you that these kids were not the first people to take something from there, not even close. There have been complaints since the store closed in september of break ins and no one has done anything to prevent further incidents, not the city, building owner, or the police. I also think it's unfair that these 4 teens were singled out since at least 4 other people were arrested that night for the exact same charge at the exact same location, and there was more who didn't get caught. Not only that, but it was not "broken into", the door was left completely unlocked and wide open. After this incident a board was put on the door, which helped very little since the store was actually broken into the following night. I don't even know if the person was caught because no one seems to care about it unless it's kids. This store has been a problem for quite a long time and only now is it suddenly a problem because of the fact that it was teens who did it. The only reason this store is still around, and still full, is so more people could be arrested for it.

MDXXLVIII-I agree to a point, the offenses aren't that far apart. The difference is they were never arrested, fingerprinted or had their mugshots in the paper. My point was more that with that many of them none had been charged with a crime. The previous poster had suggested all kids got into this sort of trouble and the truth is only a very small percentage do.

sunshine- untrue a couple of them have some minor things so far. yes hopefully this scared the crap out of them and will be the end and hopefully not get raged and be the begining

tjncj:
You hit it on the head. They need to learn from their mistakes. What they don't need is people making nasty comments and judgements without the facts. Sorry to dissappoint you SarahB- but my children are already in college, glad to know you are reading all the blogs though.

tjncj: "TPing, swimming in the pool after hours, speeding, underage drinking" are, frankly, on the same level as this. They did not "rob a liquor store" (well technically they did, but not in the way most people would imagine when they heard that phrase). The store is an attractive nuisance. They did what, if we’re honest with ourselves, most teenagers would do in the same situation. It’s an abandoned cache of booze- that would be attractive to any teenager, no matter how "good" you think they are.
As for the lesser crimes of your relatives: the ones swimming after hours broke into a secured property, just like these kids, the ones speeding are a hazard to everyone else on the road (unlike this which is essentially a victimless crime, since the owner won't be compensated for his lost inventory no matter who takes it- kids or the city), and as for the underage drinking: where did they get the booze?
The difference between these four boys and 90% of their classmates is that these four got caught. Kids are dumb. That is not an opinion, but a proven fact. Some of us are luckier than others, some are dumber than others, but every teenager will find themselves in these kinds of situations at some point, and most will, unfortunately, do the dumb thing. All we can hope for is that they:
1: Don’t do anything that can’t be fixed,
2: Know where the line between dumb and really, really dumb is, and
3: Learn from their mistakes.

Several of you have blown this way out of proportion.

For everyone wondering-a post on another article said the owner is out of the country and the US will not let him back in. While I agree something needs to be done, kind of hard to put all the blame on a person that can't get back in the US to close his business. I also read that there is a truck backed up taking the remaining inventory under the watchful eye of the JPD.

i've been friends with the top 3 guys for quite a few years, and regardless of all your accusations..they really are good kids-just took things a bit too far to get a little bit of a thrill. i can tell you that this is their first time being in trouble with the law but who am i to say that it will be their last? and who are you all to doubt it? all we can do as a community is hope they learned their lesson and continue on with our lives.

"That being said, if this is truly their first offense I think they should get a chance to do first offender and wipe the slate clean. Hopefully this will wake them up and give them a little dose of reality on the consequence of there actions"-My quote earlier. They screwed up but deserve a break, I'll stop picking on the poor "child".

Signed "The New Sheriff in Town"

Wonder if "factsintherealworld" and "notperfect" will continue posting once school break ends next week? Just a hunch and setting myself up to be pounded here, but I think "facts" is using his or her dad's/mother's username to comment today. "Facts" comments re: previous articles are much better written than what we are seeing from him/her today. But, then again, only his/her English teacher will know for sure.

tjncj sounds to me like you have your mind made up about everything; good thing your not the new sheriff in town.. no offense say what you will this isn't about you or I. Oh that is right your perfect I forgot... oh about the the super beer depot I heard you were there first... now I have stooped even to your level and to the rest of the readers I apologize..

Interesting that we applaud ourselves for the experiences we haven't had, but instruct others not to judge what they do not know. St Basil suggests, "Many a man curses the rain that falls upon his [own] head, and knows that it brings abundance to drive away hunger." I appreciate his proposal. May we all consider the rain in our own lives, and allow these boys the room to grow that they may no longer hunger. Peace of Christ, LW

there may possibly be a rash of burgularies at all the storage places now or the police department looking for nasty old booze

To address tjncj's comment that your nieces and nephews have committed lesser offenses. In a friendly way, I would like to suggest to you that, albeit of unequal legality, those who prioritize Green living may not feel that TPing is a lesser offense. And those who have had children die from unattended swimming or from car accidents caused by speeding teenagers may not feel that my brother's alleged offense is a greater danger. Those people may actually suggest that the specific behaviors you cite to be quite a bit more dangerous. I am personally not interested in such dialogue; I only intend to share a wider viewpoint.

Dear SarahB, Craig is my brother. I have no intent of argument, but since I'm quite fluent in his body language, I feel its somewhat my duty to gently translate his smile for you: He has never taken a mugshot before; He's never been in trouble before! I'm quite certain the child is rather incapable of resonating a thuggish persona you deem appropriate for such photo ops. I say this only to possibly open your eyes to the naievity of the person behind the picture. It is peculiar to me that the simple smile of a nervous child struck you as the absolute opposite of what is truely going through the terrified mind of the uncle of my children.

benthinkin the last thing I would want to do is judge people and maybe that is how it seems. I am not here to do that I wouldn't want to be judged for my opinion and that is the irony of it all... The only thing I wanted to convey is we should all clean off our own door steps before we clean of any one else's.. unless someone needs us that is..

notperfect-With the sense that last post made I believe you may have hit the Super Beer Depot before they got there. Where does vehicular homicide, Iraq and thirsty soldiers come in to play?

doc0430- maybe the 4 wonderful boys ratted out their friends and those are the pending 3

wclo headline"Janesville Police remove inventory from Super Beer Depot"

now maybe they will or maybe they wont stop robbing the place- depends if the criminals can or will read the paper.

it will be fun though if they try and now stuff is gone. can still get arrecsted for breaking and entering.

hey nobody used prohaska guys plea of had to go to the bathroom-somebody mentioned him here maybe that is what they meant by take advice from proschka guy!!!

factsintherealworld I have 1 question for you where did you see 3 more were arrested tody? There is nothing here about it and the paper again couldn't come up with A public record even though all these people were arrested, still nothing no arrests, no drunk drivings, nothing reported, no public record to report Tuesday March 18th 2008..... (or at least according to the Gazette there was nothing)

You say speeding isn't a criminal offense and your right but if you were speeding and lost control of your car and killed an innocent by stander someone's son or daughter how do you think people would treat you or your family college graduate or not. I just think we should treat others the way we want to be treated. Again I am not saying what these boys did was right but would you still say the same thing if some of our American Soldiers found a business that was deserted in Iraq and decided they were thirsty and took the merchandise? Would we say it is what it is. Or what about those people wounded in combat are our Soldiers killers?? It is what it is. I think all of us may be spending to much time worrying about what these boys did and when it comes down to it we do not control this situation in any way shape or form. Really it isn't even any of our business-- the reality of it the only people that should be concerned are the kids, parents, police and courts..

notperfect, I just can't get over the posts about the way you are judging all of those people who are judging...
Irony???

Thank you factsintherealworld! I call them as I see them and I would love to see the closets of all those judgemental people. I don't have any children of my own; and the thought of people being so judgemental makes me hope that they don't have any children because if they do god forbid they do something that would make their families turn their backs on them. I thought we are suppose to back the ones we love no matter if they make a mistake. Again just my opinion.

The fact is that speeding isn't a criminal offense punishable by jail time. It's a civil offense punishable by a fine. Breaking and entering and theft of property on the other hand are criminal offenses and punishable by jail time.
I don't feel superior when my kid gets a speeding ticket but making it analagous with burglarly is a rationalization you're using to minimize your nephew's actions. He's a thief plain and simple. It doesn't mean he's a lost cause but he is what he is whether you care to admit it or not.

In fact I do, he is a traffic offender but also a college graduate, home owner, productive non-criminal who has never been arrested in his life.

You go notperfect!
Shame is right for the rest of you. The fact is, there were many many more kids involved in this and they are still arresting them (3 more today). Will yours get caught?
tjncj:
The fact that your nephew only broke the law by speeding, and my nephew stole beer definitely puts you in a superior position (sarcasm). How rightous you must feel.

doc0430 I don't know if you are a parent but if you are just what would you do if your teenager did that or dissapointed you in some other way? Let's not forget even the President of the United States has done some pretty stupid things and I don't here people saying where were his parents? Everyone has the right to their opinion and I understand yours but I totally disagree with it.

Captions under their pictures could read from top to bottom 1 Oh well 2 Oh crap 3 So what and 4 Yup it was me so what I'm only 17! This seems to be todays version of the Cub scouts an arrest is A merit badge A photo gets you into Weblows and Probation is how you get into the Boy Scouts......... Don't get me wrong there are alot of good kids still out there however there seems to be A whole lot more that are just plain bad news and where are the parents? Maybe Junior just wants to be by his Daddy and he's in jail, who knows but obviously these kids are lacking in direction! Todays youth or tomorrows burden? You be the judge.........

Where to start? Shame on anyone of you who are judging these kids besides the parents, police and courts. Yeah they made a mistake you can even consider it a huge mistake. But who are any of us to judge them. Unless your saying you have nothing in your closet of wrongs. Nothing to be ashamed of? Oh and you couldn't wait for all of those perfect people out there to find out your story and jude you. Let's take for instance the smile on Craig's face you all know him don't you? Have you thought for one minute that it was a frightened reaction? Some of us react differently to fear or stress, instead of crying or showing emotion we may take on different faces. None of you have the right to judge because you are not perfect yourselves. Let me add this how many of your kids would have been drinking that alcohol had they not got caught? Hmm..I was a teenager once and never had a drink..yeah right!! Would it be fair to say that your kids were these horrible people to drink? Bet even some of you parents let your kids drink. I am not condoning anything that happened but I am not judging them either. I once heard my parents say those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Do you live in a glass house? Sometimes the things that don't kill us make us stronger. And one more statement of my opinion for the Parents who I just bet didn't say Son please go break the law...if God brought you to it he will bring you through it. For those of us so willing to say just how bad they are remember carma..you will at some time in your life be judged for something you say or do and lets hope that the lynch mob isn't waiting to tear you down....

keep temptation away these are teens

jails seem to be just packed full of "good " criminals

That being said, if this is truly their first offense I think they should get a chance to do first offender and wipe the slate clean. Hopefully this will wake them up and give them a little dose of reality on the consequence of there actions. And wipe that smirk off his face.

Factsintherealworld: Please reread my previous comment. I saw the crime as you did, meaning a teen-age prank with adult consequences. However, I was actually referring to the dumb move of smiling for his police mugshot. I stand by that opinion. Whether deserved or not, that smile has opened him up for criticism.

tincj- wellput but what about the "they made me do it defence " "or everyone else is"

If he is such a good kid why didnt he walk away!!!!
Mybe he was the leader if he is " the smart college one!!"

"He made a bad choice to get "free beer" with his friends and he will pay the price. If you can give me the names of four teenagers who have not made a bad choice in their life, I will give you someone who has not been around teenagers"-factsintherealworld.
I have 34 nieces and nephews who have gone through their teen years and none of them have robbed a liquor store or commmitted any felony for that matter. They have been caught for TPing, swimming in the pool after hours, speeding, underage drinking, etc. These are teen mistakes, not robbing liquor stores. The good boy defense doesn't work for me.

The owner should have lost his license a couple years ago for selling alcohol to minors. This was reported and nothing was done about it.

etown, the point is that someone who keeps breaking into my house is going to find themselves with a problem because I'm going to do something about it. This owner has done absolutely nothing but ignore the situation while the neighborhood is subjected to a crime spree. You can feel sorry for him but I hold him accountable.

Another night, another attempted breakin, that makes it eight and counting....so it goes. You can blame the Gazette for publishing information about a crime wave in our city but the but the real problem is a businessowner who, for god only knows what reason, refuses to take steps to correct the problem.

Wouldn't it be as simple as renting a storage unit and moving his liquor inventory into it?

SarahB
You are personally attacking my nephew and you need to stop and get the facts. This boy is a college bound honor student who has never been in trouble with the law. He made a bad choice to get "free beer" with his friends and he will pay the price. If you can give me the names of four teenagers who have not made a bad choice in their life, I will give you someone who has not been around teenagers. Get the facts before you blast someone.

The gazette has reported that there is a vacancy in the assistant city manager's office. I'll bet that this office will be the next to get hit!

Craig may be a "good guy," but he's not so smart. To pull a prank and break into the liquor store is one thing, but the grin on his face leads one to believe he has no concept of the seriousness of his stupidity.

Poor Craig. He's a good guy.

burglary of a liquor store is a felony an all minors will be waved into adult court.

all you people blaming the gazette for these kids breaking in. ARE YOU SERIOUS? theyve probably been the ones doing it all along. and second do you REALLY think they sit down and read the paper everyday? i highly doubt that one.

if this is the 7th time it seems there wouldnt be anything good left. i believe if same owner as long long ago- 16 years ago it wasnt very neat or tidy or anything good to pick from them when open

gayprimer- yes prob moldy green beer

Did the Gazette articles not just come out within the week or two, it says the last burglary was Feb. 20. I'm guessing that was before the articles came out.

In computer security, we know that "security through obscurity" can only work temporarily. Having it publicized meant people would know to call 911 if they saw something. I know I always looked for suspicious activity as I drove past. Fortunately they were caught in the act rather than having to be tracked down based on partial plates or descriptions.
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As for the owner's motivations, perhaps like the owner of the Case Feed building, he is actually LOOKING for the tax write-off.

Doesn't anyone know, if you steal it's gonna come back around.

I don't condone what these kids did at all, however, as a parent I feel for the families. These kids made a stupid mistake for sure! If they had never been in trouble before and were otherwise good kids, and I don't if they were or not, I feel sad for the Mom and Dad.

jck but if your home was repeatedly broken into then it would be a nuisance,and it would be your job to stop the break ins not the police? and because people refuse to stay off your property you should move it ? hmmmm i thought there were laws to protect us,

Bulldoze it, send him the bill & build a park.

My home isn't a public nuisance. This place is and it's created it's own crime zone. Another thing my home hasn't done. Meanwhile, while the neighborhood is subjected to a crime spree, the owner, fully aware of the problem his vacant business is creating, sits out of state and does nothing. Another thing that wouldn't be happening if it were my home.

He was a victim the first time and maybe the second or third. But the fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh time after he's failed to take any action. He has to take some responsibility at some point in time.

Here's where I really get lost. The owner has indicated he intends to close the business. His inventory and equipment are assets that could be sold. Yet he's content to sit out of state and let thieves steal it again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

Even though I know I am probably just adding fuel to the fire to those who assume, based on some unflattering pictures and the arrests, that they know these boys are worthless criminals, I'm going to post this anyway. I've known 2 of them for many years, and know that all 4 come from families with caring, involved parents. These same parents are undoubtedly heartbroken today, and the kids will have years to regret the stupid decision they made last night. Were they tempted by the Gazette articles and knowing a liquor store sat empty? Perhaps- but they chose to break the law and will now be paying the price. This is not a band of hardened criminals, just youthful stupidity. Try not to start a lynch mob or make too many assumptions- and please remember that there are 4 families that this is costing dearly.

jck so if someone keeps robbing your house repeatedly the police should come and take your stuff and put it in storage? maybe this owner is just tired of getting vandalized , what it the vandalism that caused this business to close, is anyone sure? the sad part of this story is the ones who broke in are the criminal , the store owner is the victim but its hard to tell they way some of these comment are going

Just to clarify for everyone....17 year olds are adults. The only juvie charge a 17 year old can get is running away and they wont really hold them in juvie so it is just a ticket and a ride home.

For fear of the Irish/alchohol-gene rumor getting all fired up, I'm hoping the lads are of English extraction!

Let's see -- the place has been closed for 7 months, so if you break in, the best you can hope for is a load of skunky beer. I doubt anybody would go back for seconds, even somebody who wasn't clever enough to figure that out in the first place.

Nope,
I'm pretty sure that these guys would otherwise be acolyte boys if it weren't for that one story in the gazzette.

BTW: Can I interest you in a beachfront condo down on Cherry Street?

Here we go again...let's not make them take responsibility because it's somebody else's fault...the Gazette in this case. They MADE them break the law. How do we know these young adults weren't involved in past burglaries and came back for more?

whybesad- Since the 17 year old is being held in the jail that means he's been waived to adult court. As long as he's waived the gazette can publish his information.

Whybesad,

In Wisconsin 17 yrs old is considered an adult for criminal justice purposes. That is also why they are being held at the Jail instead of the juvenile detention center.

Perhaps that was the plan...to publicize the unoccupied but overly stocked business. So that when it's broken into numerous times, the city will quickly move forward with revoking his license. Bit of a sting, if you will.

Ken,
Because he is 17 years old and everytime he had a camera in his face his mother said, "smile."

This is getting ridiculous. The city has already taken the route of resecuring the property it's too bad they can't take the next step by removing the contents and placing them in storage at the owners expense. This owner's behavior is absurd. He seems to feel that he can ignore everything that is happening.

Thanks for turning the neighorhood into a crime wave, you jerk.

Wonder why that kid on the bottom is smiling....

I was wondering why these boys didn't show up for choir practice. If it weren't for the gazette printing this story these kids would have NEVER broken the law.

They should probably talk to prohaska about graduate school