SarahB...have you released your medical records for the world to see? As you put it, it is ok under HIPPA to do so when you asked "why won't McCain release his medical records"; so why don't you. Still waitng on your answer to how you "manage" others.

RetiredAirForce: Excuse me?! I know all about HIPPA and there is nothing in the law that would keep McCain from releasing his own medical records ... that is what I was stating he should do ... release HIS OWN records.

Red (nice name)

I really do not think the world will end because of GM. If your Union would have not been so greedy all these years these people would still have jobs. If your work force would not have used every loophole they could and milk GM for all "THEY" could get, like overtime, paid layoffs, lawyers with frivalous law suits for free, I mean really, look at this junk and really ask yourself why GM is gone. People you yourselves helped destroy this company. The something for nothing generation has crippled the American Manufacturer. They simply could no longer compete, thats why they have gone to other countries. Skilled trade I applaud you, at least you can go find something new, but the rest that simply were paid too much for too little, I don't feel sorry for you.

spinmaster you should know the gazette is the most biased newspaper there is and will always be. when have you ever seen them support any democratic anything.

I believe Americas best days are ahead with John Mccain at the wheel. I today 10/13/08 seen Obama on the trial where a plumber/owner operator in a meet in greet line ask Obama why Obama want to raise the taxes on his business. Obama responded I plan to spread the wealth. So what I gather is that if you work hard, go to school, and put your blood sweat tears in something Obama wants you to also share with others that did not. I think a Country on our planet has this system which caused people to go hungry, and crops to rot in the fields. USSR ring a bell in the mid 80's.

Oh...My...God...greatkids. Seriously! You need to check yourself.

the bottom line is all incumbent politicians should lose their jobs for the mismanagement of our country including paul ryan. lets start fresh with a new set of crooks.

Its a liitle late for the 2 canidates to be sorry but i want to know what the hell is going to be done about it before i vote for either of them im thired of talk i want something done an im sick of waiting for a break prices going up every whar along with unemployment an all the polititician do is talk an nothing never gets done

Shame on you Janesville Gazette, for your obvious partisan reporting, "McCain responds to GM plant news, "Obama joins chorus on GM" How biased can you be, just in your headlines. Why didn't McCain join chorus? In fact, of the two of them only Obama ever bothered to come and visit GM.

sarahB…when have you ever “managed” anyone’s personal decision or behavior when you are not in the same room with them. As a parent, all you can do is provide your children with guidance and “hope” they make smart choices when left alone. There are many politicians that have children that have made bad choices, should these politicians not be elected because of it? As far as medical records go, there is this little law called HIPPA maybe you should read it.

Progressive6: I agree with you and Red, but right now that low-paying job is a dream job to many of us. I was laid off three times in the past two years and now feel blessed to be working two jobs, neither of which offers benefits. For the first time in my life (and I just turned 50), I am without health care or other benefits. One job pays $7.75/hour and the other pays $20/hour and I grab every hour I can get at either one. That is how life will have to be for now. Do I like working seven days a week? No. Do I wish for an easier life where I did not have to count every penny and juggle bills (old and new)? Yes. Do I feel blessed regardless of my struggles? You'd better believe it!

Red, your post is spot on. So many people have been sucking on GM's teat for a long time and don't even realize it. I'm not talking about the employees who directly receive a paycheck from GM, I'm talking about the service sector that depend on people that make good money and have health and dental benefits. So many of you here and on other blogs seem to think 9 or 10 dollars an hour is the dream wage that will save this country. This race to the bottom is a big reason why this country is in such bad shape.

Palin can't even manage her own family. Why would I want her "a heartbeat away from the presidency"? And I have never understood why McCain won't release his medical records. Personally, I want to know that this man with his rumored out-of-control temper received adequate counseling after all those years as a prisoner of war.

justaguy you should change your name to justamoron

We are in this together, whether we agree with each other or not. The unnecessary name calling does not support a point, only an opinion. Can we just be civil? No matter how we vote, we need to do it. Get involved with your representitives. Make them work for us....we're paying the bills.

Why be so partisan everyone ? The new president from either party will NOT be able to help our spiralling economy and falling standard of living.
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The markets have only corrected for about $5T of approximately $500T(some say more) in subprime debt still out there.
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Now is the time to help our neighbors and our local community.

McHomes? red it looks like your pointing finger aleardy. Good luck in getting people to listen to you.

Let’s stop pointing fingers and start asking the tough questions. 1) After GM files bankruptcy, which will allow it to get, rid of its pension and retiree health responsibilities who will pay for the bypass surgeries, the knee replacements, and the chemotherapy? Mercy and Dean better wake up. 2) How will retirees be able to survive on social security alone? 3) What will Janesville do with a superabundance of housing on the market, all of it overpriced? 4) Who will pay city salaries when families start defaulting on their property tax bills and city revenues fall far short of those needed to provide basic services? 5) With no middle class left who will be able to afford SUV’s, McHomes, expensive subdivisions, private school, and college? Maybe those employed by the new super Wall Mart and Sams Club? After asking the above questions I’d think about coming up with answers to those questions. It will take a lot of people thinking “outside the box” to address the hard times ahead.

Just glad I don't live in your little world, justaguy.

justaguy...there again you state.."other who outright say the don't like the USA" Prove your point and show me, that's all I ask.

chad I will say whatever I want as long as I know it isn't a lie and your hardly the one to tell me to stop whinning as that is all you seem to do,now have a good day.

McCain brought up about "speak softly and carry a big stick", which diplomacy is about and what Obama is about. McCain just wants to club somebody. Not in the best interest of the US as far as I am concerned (remember bomb, bomb, Iran).

Well, point out something I said was false, give proof to the fact that it is false, or quit your whining. Just because I don't stand by and let people post those spin doctored comments am I a "bouncer". More of a reality checker. It's the economy that's the problem, not some thinly veiled attempt to make Oboma out to be a Muslim. Did you know there are many people with Arabic names that are Christians by the way?? Or should we banish them all, as the christian thing to do?

I don't stand for either the democrats or the republicans, I think they all give a mouthful but can't back anything up or most anything, they both want to win.I will tho stand up for a man who is behind the USA and willing to fight for it, I won't stand up for a man who stands with other who outright say the don't like the USA, That is why I back up MCcain and Palin, they may not be the prettiest or the best talkers but they will stand up for the USA, nough said have a good day.

Just trying to counter the Republican spin that's out there. It's my right, just as you previously stated it was yours.

Hey chad vader and gstrube are you two the room bouncers? someone gives their point of view and you jump all over them? if we don't give a 1000 page report on facts we don't stand up to your standards? you do sound like democrats.

chad...that's the only argument Republican's can come up with, that his name rhymes with Osama. That surely disqualifies him from being President.

Tara- who do you think will take your post seriously after doing the retreaded oboma/osama thing? Grow up

Could you be a little more specific on what answers he doesn't give, instead of just a blanket statement.

you might wanna read about obama oh yea he dont give any answers

You might want to read this about McBush or whatever his name is.

http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics/mc...

My thoughts are that obama or osama whatever has great ideas but He's says he's gonna give everything and take away nothing away. Americans need to realize thats not possible. Oh yeah and not to mention the fact that he will fine you if you dont have insurance listen to what he's saying people. JOHN MCAIN FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!

Unfortunately this isn't just Washington corruption and Wall Street greed. High gas prices caused the majoring of this in regarding to the Janesville GM plant. Plus, don't forget GM's top management not running the company right. Now, if either McCain or Obama were bold enough to say they were giving American car companies a boat load of cash (for R&D only) to develop a new alternative fuel source car or one that gets over 80 mpg, then I would be impressed. Won't happen though with all the oil money both parties get.

And at what point did you comment on GM? Your first comment on this page was purely political, not one word about GM, so don't point fingers.

There you go again. Find where I called everyone a liar. And I have supported my comments appropriate links, something you haven't done. Facts are not facts just because YOU say they are. Try again!

I guess the facts that gstrube had about Palin's so called military experience must have missed your eyes and ears.
Besides, this article was about GM and job losses in Janesville and you had nothing to say about that.

I say it like it is and the facts are the facts, nothing made up here. I think you just can't listen to them so you call everyone a liar to make yourself feel better.I have heard no facts come from either of you just your own BS. I'll let you two talk among eachother now and see what other goodies you can come up with.

I think gstrube just wants you to post facts and not rhetoric. I think it's everyone's right to vote who they want for, but to slander people with lies and BS just is not upstanding as you pretend to be.

I've had some bad bosses for 20 years and I surely hope I didn't get unduly influenced by giving up my free will and ability to think and form my own thoughts like you accuse others of being like. Maybe not everyone is a lemming like you.

Just as I figured, nothing concrete to back up your statements. I see now why you're a Republican.

I think you already have failed, you judge me and my thoughts, my given rights and i never had said a word to you.You make your choice and i'll make mine.

I listen, just not to partisan rhetoric which is what you base everything on. Thank God you are not here to teach me, I would surely fail!

Let's not forget about McCain's Rev. Hagge.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanma...

I say alot but like a democrat you just don't listen, i'm not here to teach you but just to give my thought ... it's my right and that even acorn can't take away from me.

you maybe right he isn't on the ticket but he has 20 years in obama's head, and funny obama never walked out the door with all the things wright said about the USA.He isn't the person I was behind the desk if i have the USA in my best interest.

justaguy...you keep making claims with nothing to back it up. Show me where Obama stated he doesn't like the US. Or are you just promoting the Republican rhetoric?

I don't think think Wright is running for president ? Maybe you have a different ballot. Is Palins witch doctor on it too? I would vote for him as he might be able to banish all the evil spirits from Washington.

Yeah i'd feel safe with obama behind the desk, his wife, pastor and many of his friends don't even like the USA. I'm sure he has his own changes in mind for us.

by the way Dr. Wright - at our church, we pray for our nations leaders to make the right decisions for our country. We don't make spirited sermons condeming their policies and decision making.

Again, I will plug my nose on Nov. 4th, and pick the closest thing to a patriot and the Commander - in -Chief.

I can assure you that will not be somebody with the name Barrack Hussien Obama, who was taught by Jeremiah Wright for 20 years anti-American vulgar spewing from his pulpit.

Yeah, she was busy holding off the nasty Ruskies with the National Guard. I feel so much safer now, Ya hay der.

Palin's National Guard experience, non-existent!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/200809...

The President doesn't need to be the expert in all areas, just a good manager who knows when the people giving him information is good or bad. Unfortunately, GW was not a good manager of our country. He probably listened to RoboCheney way too much and was flipping a coin the other times. We need a leader and McCain has just sounded like a bitter old man the last 2 debates.

If military experience is a qualification for President, then you're telling me Sarah Palin isn't qualified either. We have to consider that as a possibility too.

Barrack Obama is a name just as American as Mike Smith

chad_vader - fact is, for Palin, that is double the military experience that Obama and Biden have combined.

Pailin!!! In charge of the National Guard !!! That is the weakest excuse for military experience ever used by a politician. Maybe if we were attacked by a moose I would feel safe.

Persnally, I will plug my nose on Nov. 4th, because they both stink.

But if you are looking for somebody who is a proven patriot and with military experience, who will be the Commander in Chief, then the pick is more clear.

obama talks alot but never says anything, he's like that guy with the flute and the mice that follow him, they follow but don't know why.

Yes, the military is voluntary. But, I wonder how many would run for Canada if it wasn't?

We have too many convenient patriots out there, who are not willing to sacrifice if needed to.

Get back to a modest lifestyle, which would be a huge sacrifice for many, but would benefit the country. Don't buy the Chinese crap, but save your money for something more expensive and made in America.

localboy...You just threw all your previous arguments about Obama out the window with the statement..."our nation is in trouble because of our nation, not the President." Thanks for pointing that out to everyone.

gstrube - our nation is in trouble because of our nation, not the President. We are in trouble due to greed, individualism, and liberalism.

We have people who bought homes they couldn't afford.

We have institutions that gave them money due to the huge, non-traditional paybacks.

We have people who were only concerned about themselves and the material wealth they could accumulate, and over spent their credit, or took huge bonuses for false incomes.

We have a wealth of people pouring out of liberal colleges with a mindset that the individual is more important then the nation as a whole, therefore take what you can get now, and don't worry about tomorrow. Me, me, me. Do what is good for yourself, not what is good for the country. What can the country do for me, not what I can do for the country.

I think it should be like ripping a bandaid off quickly. Let us let the people who are in financial trouble tough it out with out any bail out. If you are tossed out of your home because you can't afford it, afford what you can for a living. Business that are on the bubble, let the markets correct them, and what is left standing are the strong companies that built their books on principle, and not greed.

I could go on and on. But, I think you get the picture.

Furthermore, I didn't know military service was required in this country. Where you been? It's been voluntary for the last 30+ years. I imagine there are plenty of people in this country that never served in the military. Does this make them unpatriotic?

All your examples are based on nationalities, not religions. Want to try again?

If he would have just gone by the name Barry Obama, everyone would think that he was Irish. ;-)

exresident...As opposed to 2004 when Republicans thought George Bush was going to save our nation. Look where we're at now.

And Danny Sullivan isn't Irish, and Hung Go Lee ins't Chinese...

How else do you get the name Barrack Hussein Obama, without some Muslim enfluence??

Either way, it doesn't dismiss his absence of Military experience, (Palin is in charge of the National Guard), or his patriotism.

chad...Great post! In case anybody missed it George Bush took 900 days of vacation while in office. I for one am glad, that's almost three years in which he could have made a bigger mess of things.

Quit sending our middle class jobs overseas and stop the the cost of living from going leaps and bounds over any wage increases and then handouts will not be needed. The middle class is the engine that drives our economy. That engine is full of sludge now because we did not change the oil 4 years ago. Just kept in the same old Texas crud, err.. crude.

I am glad everyone thinks Obama and the democrats are going to save our nation. Obama is going to try and re tool the GM plant. Brilliant idea! So what is everyone suppose to do in the mean time? Sit around and wait for a hand me out? Something the democrats are well known for giving? It's time people become accountable for themselves and quit waiting for something to happen. The democrats want to enable people and make them dependent on the system.

guitarchic - While i agree that GM execs made plenty of mistakes, I have to say that in the last year I have seen changes that actually give me a spark of hope for them. Of course, they also face these battles:
Quality - GM has equaled or bettered the competition in most segments according to JD Power and other auto watchdogs. Yet most people seem to have this fantasy that foreign vehicles are built better.
Jealousy - lots of people want to bring down the big guy on the block, not realizing the people who really get hurt are your friends, family and neighbors who just put in a hard days work to make a living. it's cutting your nose off to spite your face. Unfortunately the US has gotten to this state where people find joy in others misery.
The US is gotten ill and we need a president that will treat the disease and not just the symptoms. Bush is more like DR. Demento than Dr. House.

localboy...it's people like you that spew partisan rhetoric that make me wonder. Even though it's proven that Obama IS NOT a Muslim you still can't come to terms with it and would rather lie. It's about time you look at yourself in the mirror. You and those like you are not very good representatives of this country. Too bad for you.

Yes, but we don't have to use our tax dollars to subsidize companies moving overseas. If you are interested you should look at this:
http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story....

No one is afraid of free and FAIR competition (and i won't even start on currency manipulations our Govt. ignores), but when our government is giving tax breaks to SEND JOBS overseas, then if you can't see a problem with that I can see why you are a Bush/McCain supporter.

whybesad, you may have misunderstood what Obama said, he said that most small businesses make less than $250,000.00. I don't believe he is making false statements. That statement is based on statistics. You can check out the numbers for yourself at the link below. http://www.census.gov/epcd/www/smallbus....
Big corporations like GM don't need a bail out. Both candidates are wrong if they think they can fix GM's problems. GM's CEO's and upper management made this mess for themselves, and I dont' think it's up to the president or the American people to fix it for them. Is the CEO of GM going to lose his home, and assets, if the company declares bankrupcy? I don't think so. How about the employess of GM and all the small companies that make parts for the vehicles they build, the skilled trades people, the line workers? They may not be so fortunate as the CEO's if GM goes under. Look at the Enron scandal or the more recent AIG bailout. They did not end up living in their cars or on the street because they couldn't pay their mortgage or rent.
GM has had opportunities to build a more effecient vehicle, but greedy Americans haven't made it obvious to management in a direct way. As the working middle class, we have to be heard, we make up the majority of the population.
Writing, e-mailing, and calling our representatives may be the key to creating the change that is needed for the health or our economy, not a millionaire policitian in a suit telling us he/she is going to make it happen for us.
We need to be informed and involved. It may pave the way for change that we are so desperately in need of. Ours is a governement of the people, by the people and for the people. We Are the People! Without the working class, the small percentage at the top would not be any better off than the rest of us. We empower them, now is the time to empower ourselves. Vote, be heard, and be involved.
So McCain has supported auto industry loan guarantees and Obama is going to make an effort to retool, etc. GM needs to get into 21st technology on their own, it's not up to us to bail them out. Vote however your conscience tells you, but please, be informed and get involved.

Don't listen to either candidates ideas, as they are just campaign talking.

However, put the two together and define who you want to be the front man for America's ideas. That is what a President does. He is the symbol for America and don't forget - the Commander in Chief.

Osama Hussien Obama - Muslim radical who is married to a woman who conviently just became proud of her country, and never served in the Military or is a patriot.

John Sidney McCain - Southern Baptist who is married to a wealthy woman (prenup by the way) who adopted a Bangladesh girl in need of severe medical treatment, and who served his country in Vietnam as a prisoner of war and suffered severe torture as a result, all in belief of his countries idealogy. He didn't sit in a radical church and listen to HATE AMERICA sermons, or hang out with people who bombed the pentagon because they HATED AMERICA.

Who do you want as your Commander-in-Chief, and the front man for America, regardless of the blah, blah, blah campaign rhetoric coming from both?

It's a global economy American businesses have to do work in other countries in order to be able to compete in the global market.

There is still no incentive for a small business owner to expand and create more jobs if he/she is under the $250,000 plateau. Why expand if you know your going to have to pay more taxes as your business succeeds? Why should the government limit a small business person or any person to how much one makes? If they work hard and are successful over their life time why can't they reap the benefits of having money? I want to make some money in my lifetime. I certainly think that when I do make enough money to consider myself successful that they government will let me keep that money that I worked my whole life for. Why should I pay more for working my tail off to succeed and the guy who isn't responsible and doesn't want to work hard and spends money and doesn't save why should he get more breaks than me? It seems Obama wants to punish success.

whybesad - you pay taxes but get a tax break if you have children to claim. The same concept works for that. Buisness makes more than $250,000 they would be liable for more taxes. IF they keep jobs in USA, they would get a tax break for that. A win for the company AND the USA for keeping jobs here. That is a tax break worth giving, not the ones republicans give now to ship jobs overseas. There is no confusion there, open your eyes. Yes, potentially a company may not end up paying more taxes. But if it keeps/increases jobs in the US then that is even better.

IS THIS HOW A REPUBLICAN CAN TRY AND YELL OVER COMMON SENSE ON A MESSAGE BOARD? Turn the caplock off, we heard you!

Obama says he is going to tax corporations and individuals that make over $250,000. Then he says he is going to give tax breaks to corporations that keep jobs in America. Now which is it? He seems to want to cater to everyone. He can't have it both ways. There is no incentive for a person and or corporation/small business to succeed and grow. If I'm a small business owner wanting to expand and grow and create jobs what incentive is there under Obama's plan? I'm not going to want to get to that $250,000 plateau in order to avoid higher taxes. It makes no sense to tax the very people that are the so called engine of this economy.

WOW petcat I guess we are lucky you didn't dump on anyone, like a democrat could do us any help.

What, are we forgetting that Republicans give tax breaks?
Move your jobs overseas to save money on labor, and we will give you a tax break! That will help big business keep their heads above water! That will help the smaller businesses that supply those companies locally, because they can cut their work force, and spend less money! Don't worry about the employees that lose their jobs, we will just find a way to lower their taxes, and raise their house values! How can we lose? (reverse trickle down economics)

Remember that all of this legislation was passed with republicans running the house, senate and white house.
Why haven't the democrats in congress passed anything to help the working man????
Why pass something that you know the president will veto, and you can't overturn the veto??
So what, we change it to Dem, Dem and Dem. Once again we have a blank check system with no balance!
In closing, we must raise taxes in order to pay our bills (as a country)and pay off the debt. Then we will be able to pay for more programs to create jobs, and rebuild the infrastructure.
The government has no money, so they continue to borrow, and send us ALL into a deeper debt!

BostonBill,
I myself come from a family that is not wealthy. We do not have money to spend carelessly. Because of how America works though, and I'm not condemning the ideas or success in the past, we have to invest in something in order to live comfortably. My family often struggles to make ends meet, and I have a lot of friends who are in even worse positions than my own family. I do fully understand how difficult it can be.
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When I talk about cutting some pay in, and I quote myself, "Some of the much higher management," I am not talking about people who work at the local stores. I am sorry if I was over-general. I'm talking about people involved in the corporate headquarters. I think that perhaps some people should concede that it is not fair that they live so comfortably while so many others struggle. It boils down to the very basic ethics.
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Oil companies are not excluded from this, I was just giving one example that I was hoping everyone could understand. More importantly than oil companies paying us back, though, is finding alternative fuels so that we never have to face this crisis again.

I don't see no sure fix for this mess, not now or in the near future, Afraid it is going to get a lot worse before it gets better and that is very very scary.

thekai: I appreciate your post and your caveats. I do have some areas of disagreement though.
You said, “I want to reiterate that this is not an area that I have a wealth of knowledge in. I do believe that wealthier people tend to either save more money or invest more money than lower and middle class people, though.”
Do you not understand the fact that many working people don’t have money to invest? Too many families live payday to payday.
You said, “Take Walmart, for example. Imagine if Walmart increased the wages of every single domestic worker by $2.00 per hour. I haven't done the math, but I believe that it is well within their power to do so. Some of the much higher management would have to take a cut out of their own pay to make it happen, but in the end it would benefit the company and the country.”
You obviously need to increase your knowledge about Wal-Mart. You, as most people seem to do, confuse the billionaire Walton family with the hard working people at Wal-Mart. Every person in every Wal-Mart store works to make ends meet. I think it is odd, though cliché, to single out Wal-Mart when the blog is about one of the biggest (GM) corporations in history. How about the big oil companies give something back!
Not my area of expertise and just my opinion.

The pot calling the kettle black at 5 billion dollars a month..and some of you people want the Repubs to win so we can have more of this.

"I'm disappointed to hear of the upcoming General Motors plant closings. Hardworking people are paying the price because our country's leaders have put Washington corruption and Wall Street greed before Main Street's interests for too long.

By the way, why are some of the largest voices in politics also the richest? Guess which party a lot of them belong to? Oprah, Letterman, Bono, Springsteen, Gates. If all of the above shared their wealth in the US as much as they do in foreign countries, we could get back on our feet. Why are we not b--- about their overpriced wages? What about pro-sports players, movie stars and the music industry? Sure the big O gives highly publicized help to a few in the US but compared to foreigners, the US population just gets a warm fuzzy from her.

thekai's theory is absolutely correct. But, it is a theory and in a perfect world it would work. Obama nor McCain can fix this until we as a people, not as republicans or democrats, can understand the root causes of the problem.

NOT SURE WHERE TO PLACE THIS BIT OF INFORMATION BUT FOUND IT TO BE INTERESTING. ENJOY, EVERYBODY:

As Harpers documented earlier this year, the McCains are true believers in the old saying that charity begins at home:
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Between 2001 and 2006, McCain contributed roughly $950,000 to [their] foundation. That accounted for all of its listed income other than for $100 that came from an anonymous donor. During that same period, the McCain foundation made contributions of roughly $1.6 million. More than $500,000 went to his kids' private schools, most of which was donated when his children were attending those institutions. So McCain apparently received major tax deductions for supporting elite schools attended by his children.
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Ironically, the McCain campaign ... blasted Barack Obama for having attended a private school in Hawaii on scholarship. That attack came just weeks after John McCain held an event at his old prep school, Episcopal High, an institution where fees now top $38,000 a year.

mr mccain is correct...this is a time for action...im surprised he didnt suspend his campaign again. lol

People like prevobus, should check web sites like this one, or the many other sites that sort out the facts.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/...

This is not my area of expertise at all, so all I have to offer is my own opinion. In having said that, I do want to remind everyone and also admit that I am a Democrat, and thus my fundamentals will be different from those in other areas of the political spectrum.
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Firstly, I believe that most businesses are given a lot of room already to expand, and that's good. The bad part is, when some businesses do get big, they take advantage of their situation. Take Walmart, for example. Imagine if Walmart increased the wages of every single domestic worker by $2.00 per hour. I haven't done the math, but I believe that it is well within their power to do so. Some of the much higher management would have to take a cut out of their own pay to make it happen, but in the end it would benefit the company and the country. This takes me to my next point, actually.
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Secondly, wouldn't the companies benefit from tax cuts to the lower and middle class? After all, the largest groups of spenders, and the driving force from our economy comes from the middle class, doesn't it? If I am given a $600 tax break, for example, then I can finally fix my car. This year, I spent over $1,000 in repairs on my car (which I purchased in 2003 for $2,000). I could not have done that comfortably if it were not for the $600 stimulus check. Keeping that in mind, lower and middle class families spend money because they have to spend money. If they are spending more money, don't businesses notice an increase in their revenue? With this increased consumerism, which our economy is based on, won't we see a positive effect?
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I want to reiterate that this is not an area that I have a wealth of knowledge in. I do believe that wealthier people tend to either save more money or invest more money than lower and middle class people, though. Obviously investing has its benefits, but anyone who invested in GM five years ago is feeling the pain right now. Lower and middle class families have to manage their money in order to survive, not to get rich. Aren't those the people who will positively impact the economy the most?

I see this blurb about John McCain gets a little more respect than the Obama blurb from earlier today. I’m referring to "Obama Joins Chorus on GM" posted at 9:16 this morning. Am I overreacting or does anyone else see the sarcasm written into that? When will the Gazette and the other Bliss affiliates give both candidates an even playing field? It's not just this article, its WCLO and the Gazette combined. Especially with WCLO running the Laura Ingram show on each week night. Janesville certainly seems to have some biased news outlets. I’d welcome someone from Bliss Communications to prove me wrong about this. After all, not just Republicans buy your papers or listen to your radio stations.

The title of this article says it all.

http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/2007/1...

To add to that, Tax breaks or tax increases will not matter to the small business owners that can't get funding to create or keep jobs. If a business can't get funding today for material, wages, insurance, utilities and advertising, taxes are a non issue at the end of the year because there will be nothing to tax.

People are loving to hear tax breaks for low & middle class and stick tax increases to companies and wealthy people. Problem with that glorious Obama plan is the more you tax a corporation the more cuts it must make. As localboy said, there aren't many low or middle class folks around here or across the US that will take there new found wealth from Obama's tax cut and create a single job with it. Obama's plan is a feel good fix that like the economic stimulus package, really won't get you a job. And no job means you won't notice a tax cut or increase except on what's left of your unemployment.

the working families know who the real supporter of working families is-- cut takes for the working families!

Believe nothing that you hear, and half of what you see!!!

Obama's plan has always been to reward companies that keep and/or increase jobs right here in the United States. McCain has said that despite trade deals being to blame for outsourcing of jobs, he thinks trade deals are great for the United States and is ready to negotiate further deals.

Republicans want to give companies tax breaks to create jobs. Democrats want to give the money to the working man.

How many working men are going to create jobs?

Jakiao,
I agree with you, but I have a very hard time reading these two statements without a bias. I'd like to hear what a McCain supporter has to say, comparing the two statements.

Obama's response includes him saying he will try to get GM to retool the plant to keep it open or to re-open it. McCain's response is nothing but repeating himself from before and offering no help to us directly. Nice way to look at the two.

Panderama.

SSDD