Wisconsin Dems oust delegate
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Wisconsin Democrats have ousted a delegate to their national convention for saying she would vote for Republican Sen. John McCain.
The Wisconsin Democratic Party’s administrative committee voted Friday to strip Debra Bartoshevich of her status as a delegate to the Denver convention.
Bartoshevich was elected as a pledged delegate for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. But after Clinton dropped out of the race, Bartoshevich told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel she would support McCain.
Bartoshevich says she made the comments during an emotional time and she hasn’t made up her mind.
But the party says she violated rules requiring delegates to support its nominee.
Jul 29, 2008 at 1:55 p.m.
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Still, some are worse than others. That's probably comparable to quoting moveon.org
Jul 29, 2008 at 5:44 a.m.
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There's no such thing as an unbiased source.
Jul 28, 2008 at 2:13 p.m.
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Jul 28, 2008 at 2:07 p.m.
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"HumanEvents.com... Leading the conservative movement since 1944."
Good non-biased source. Idiot.
Jul 27, 2008 at 7:20 p.m.
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GUYONTHECOUCH,
"Initially, Obama claimed it would be inappropriate because he was in Germany on a political trip.
After reporters noted that Obama began his speech in Berlin by saying he was not speaking as someone campaigning for office and also met, in his capacity as a United States Senator, with German Chancellor Merkel, Obama changed his story. The story morphed to blame the military with the campaign telling reporters the military thought the trip was inappropriate."
"The story then morphed again. Obama strategist David Axelrod told reporters the Pentagon said Obama should not go to Landstuhl.
Inconveniently, the Pentagon told NBC no one there knows why Obama cancelled his trip. In fact, a military spokeswoman announced Obama would be visiting only to then announce he would not for reasons unknown to the military.
The only thing we know from Obama himself is what Jake Tapper reported at ABC. “Obama noted that in a break from his whirlwind schedule, ‘we've got some down time tonight. What are you guys gonna do in Berlin? Huh? Huh? You guys got any big plans? ...I've never been to Berlin, so...I would love to tour around a little bit.’”"
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?i...
Jul 27, 2008 at 7:08 p.m.
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"Obama has said he chose to cancel a visit to a military hospital there after consultations with the Pentagon, due to concerns that such a visit might be seen as using wounded troops for political purposes."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/2...
Jul 27, 2008 at 5:23 p.m.
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Typical Democrats someone says she might vote for Macain and they show how compassionate they are and get rid of her. Don't they know that she is a democrat and she is entitled to flip flop? Don't they know it's alright if your a democrat to lie? They showed this woman no compassion at all. If Obama wins look out and keep a tight grip on your wallet because he is going to tax the hell out of all of us in someway or another.
Jul 27, 2008 at 5:08 p.m.
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I can not wait for Obama to become President and he will. John McCain is a freakin joke.
Jul 26, 2008 at 1:50 p.m.
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eire...when and where is your CONVERSION TO ISLAM ceremony being held! i want to attend and bring you a nice present; a sword to cut off the heads of christians. FOOL!
Jul 26, 2008 at 11:51 a.m.
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Hi my name is John McCain, In the last two years Obama has not stopped the war, reduced the cost of fuel or lowered the consumption of fossil fuels. I, John McCain, have been in office 20 years, resting on my lauerls (remember, I was a veteran), and doing nothing. We cannot elect a young man, African American, non the less with no history of doing nothing and expect him to lead our great country. Sure Obama talks great and has chrisma but, can he sit back and do nothing like me? Vote for me ,and I promise, nothing will change! This was paid for by the John McCain for president campaign.
Jul 26, 2008 at 11:34 a.m.
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LIES! The Pentagon does not know why he canceled.
Jul 26, 2008 at 10:03 a.m.
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Yeah I'd vote for "none of the above." Actually I wish we had a primary/secondary vote system. You vote for your primary candidate, and if he/she loses then your secondary vote is applied. So many people want to vote for a 3rd party candidate but then vote for dem/rep because they don't want to risk the greater of 2 evils from getting elected. Not that I ever expect such a system to come to fruition.
More on topic, I completely understand the politics of dropping this delegate. The party chooses the delegates to support the party. It's not like these are publicly elected delegates to represent the people.
Jul 26, 2008 at 8:23 a.m.
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It is really a shame that there is not a selection on the ballot marked "None of the above". It would win -- hands down.
Jul 26, 2008 at 7:33 a.m.
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Obama did not visit the wounded troop because the Pentagon told him he could NOT. The Pentagon did not make the decision until Wednesday. The Pentagon also put a disclaimer that only Senate staff could go with Obama to visit the troops. Because his senate staff had already left the region (ONLY after visiting Iraq and Afghanistan) the campaign staff was not allowed in to see the troops in Germany.
The Pentagon only made this decision after the warm welcome and actual TALKING by Obama with the regional leaders. McCain was floundering at home visiting a Brat and beer place in Ohio to prove he did not need to go to Germany to connect.
Has anyone also taken into account that Scott McClellan also admitted on Chris Matthew's Hardball that the Bush administration fed talking points to FOX for the Bush white house? Maybe that is why O'Reilly and the other puppets on FOX news, fair and balanced, were saying what was said.
Jul 25, 2008 at 9:19 p.m.
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More on McCain's declining of Secret Service in the link below. For those of you who love the Onion:)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGWakF5XgYM
Jul 25, 2008 at 8:33 p.m.
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whybesaid, while it is true he did not request it earlier even though he could have under the law, McCain accepted Secret Service protection as of April 27.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gmnmx...
Jul 25, 2008 at 7:28 p.m.
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obama worried about a political stunt...............heck! HE IS ONE!!!!!!!!!!!
Jul 25, 2008 at 6:09 p.m.
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Wrong, he skipped it because he thought it would look like a political stunt.
Jul 25, 2008 at 6 p.m.
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The Tyndall Report, a news coverage monitoring service that has the broadcast networks as clients, reports that three newscasts by the traditional networks — which have a combined audience of more than 20 million people — spent 114 minutes covering Obama since June; they spent 48 minutes covering McCain.
I could care less why the big hitters from all the liberal networks follow him around. Maybe because it's his FIRST trip to the war zone.
Jul 25, 2008 at 5:49 p.m.
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Guyonthecouch, He skipped seeing the troops in Germany, not for campaigning, as he claimed, but for sight seeing.
So nice of him to go to Iraq. Now that the Surge, that he voted against, has worked, and Iraq is more peaceful.
If we had went with Obama's plan for Iraq, we a would now be seeing the Iraqi army collapsing, civilian casualties increasing dramatically, al-Qaida killing cooperative Sunni sheiks and finding safe havens to train fighters and launch attacks on Americans, and civil war, genocide and a wider conflict.
Above all, America would have been humiliated and weakened. Terrorists would have seen our defeat as evidence America lacked the resolve to defeat them. As Iraq descended into chaos, other countries in the Middle East would have come to the aid of their favored factions, and the entire region might have erupted in war.
Tell me I'm that far off.
McCain would rather lose a campaign than lose a war, Obama would rather win a campaign than win a war.
Jul 25, 2008 at 5:38 p.m.
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P.S. He did not bring the media circus, they brought themselves.
Jul 25, 2008 at 5:30 p.m.
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We've got one person criticizing him for visiting troops in Kuwait, calling it a campaign event, and another for skipping the troops in Germany for that exact reason.
These must be the same people who complained he hadn't visited Iraq recently, and are now attacking him for going there.
Way to be consistent, guys.
Jul 25, 2008 at 5:30 p.m.
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Obama is a fraud. Has done nothing in his 4 years as a US senator. Macain doesn't even use secret service while he does his campaigning. Saving the US taxpayer some money.
Jul 25, 2008 at 5:15 p.m.
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Back on point, has anyone heard who will be taking her place as the next delegate?
Jul 25, 2008 at 5:14 p.m.
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dub-you don't know what your talking about when you say McCain doesn't talk much about his wounds. Where have you been when his campaign advertisements come on the TV? Have you been hiding somewhere? Geez-get a grip on reality and stop dreaming. McCain" approved this message".
Jul 25, 2008 at 5:13 p.m.
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I'd hardly call Justice Kennedy conservative or liberal, dub. His opinions have proven over and over again that he's willing to look at things both ways.
Jul 25, 2008 at 5:10 p.m.
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Why would you vote for a party who, controlling Congress, absolutely refuses even a vote on more drilling on our home soil? It might pollute the environment...Like the environment we saved by refusing to drill off shore around Cuba? Now China is drilling there. I'm sure they are as concerned about the environment, halfway across the world from them, as we are...
Now can anyone tell me, about Obama: Who supported him? Who financed him? Who promoted him? Who covered for him? Who answered for him? Who sent him?
Jul 25, 2008 at 4:58 p.m.
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This is a very important Presidency for gun owners, actually everyone.
The President elected in 08 will choose three or four Supreme Court Justices. If the Democrats win the election they WILL change the gun laws. The only thing stopping them recently from twisting the words of our very own Constitution was the remaining sane Conservative Justices. For now, the majority.
Jul 25, 2008 at 4:52 p.m.
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Why is the presumptive Democrat nominee campaigning in foreign countries for President of the U.S. anyway?
They show him playin hoops with the soldiers in Kuwait, something McCain can not do, due to the fact that his war wounds keep him from raising his hands above his shoulders. Not many people know this, he doesn't want to talk about it. Do you think Obama would ever keep that a secret if it were him?
His marvelous Photo Op and exciting adventure trip is paid for by the U.S. taxpayers. Billed as a “Congressional fact-finding trip”.
Jul 25, 2008 at 4:45 p.m.
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janesvillean.... why do you feel it is necessary to spew hatred against those who don't share your views? so you agree with LATE TERM ABORTION! killing a fetus that can breathe on it's own. do you want to take ALL WEAPONS out of law abiding citizens hands so the criminals (who don't abide by any gun law) will have freedom to create havoc on the streets and in our homes?
i was a staunch democrat until the 1990's. then i saw who the face of the party was. how it went over the top on too many ULTRA LIBERAL issues. and seemed to somewhat lose it's moral direction. i became embarassed by the constant whinning and excuse making. i was ashamed to say i was a democrat at that point. i consider myself to be a modrate and see some good in each party but much bad in them also.
to blame george bush for everything bad is soooo hypocritical after the embarassment the clinton administration created for this country.
so if you want to line up with nancy-biden-jesse-sharpton-reid et al go right ahead. it only shows you have not figured it out yet.
Jul 25, 2008 at 4:41 p.m.
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So he bails on wounded soldiers to "tour around a little bit"?
Jul 25, 2008 at 4:40 p.m.
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Obama’s behavior toward American troops in Germany was so egregious, even the New York Times this morning is picking up the story. The Times writes, “It wasn’t perfectly clear whether the Pentagon asked the Obama campaign to cancel the trip outright or the campaign decided on its own -- after quiet pressure from military officials -- that a political trip to the base was inappropriate.” “The trip” was a scheduled trip to visit American troops at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, one of the world’s largest military hospitals.
Initially, Obama claimed it would be inappropriate because he was in Germany on a political trip.
After reporters noted that Obama began his speech in Berlin by saying he was not speaking as someone campaigning for office and also met, in his capacity as a United States Senator, with German Chancellor Merkel, Obama changed his story. The story morphed to blame the military with the campaign telling reporters the military thought the trip was inappropriate.
The story then morphed again. Obama strategist David Axelrod told reporters the Pentagon said Obama should not go to Landstuhl.
Inconveniently, the Pentagon told NBC no one there knows why Obama cancelled his trip. In fact, a military spokeswoman announced Obama would be visiting only to then announce he would not for reasons unknown to the military.
The only thing we know from Obama himself is what Jake Tapper reported at ABC. “Obama noted that in a break from his whirlwind schedule, ‘we've got some down time tonight. What are you guys gonna do in Berlin? Huh? Huh? You guys got any big plans? ...I've never been to Berlin, so...I would love to tour around a little bit.’”
Jul 25, 2008 at 4:28 p.m.
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Shame on her for not wanting to vote for a flip flopping, anti American, abortionist!
He knows all the Dems are going to vote for him regardless, so he's now trying to appeal to the Conservatives. Did you hear any of the speech he made in Germany? He is a racist, who despises America, and will screw up the Election all on his own.
By the way, coming from a Libertarian, O'Reilly is more Liberal than most on Fox News. He just isn't scared to say what he really wants to say.
Jul 25, 2008 at 4:13 p.m.
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What party would EVER allow this? Certainly the party has the right to determine who represents them at the national convention. Can you imagine the drubbing a Republican delegate would get for supporting a Democrat? I'm sure that Drudge would run a siren headline, Michelle Malkin would be peeking inside his kitchen windows, and Bill O'Reilly would be sifting his garbage by the end of the week.
Jul 25, 2008 at 4:08 p.m.
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You can't blame them. Anyone who would do that is not a real Democrat. McCain is the exact opposite of Hillary (and the Democratic Party) on a lot of issues.
Jul 25, 2008 at 2:52 p.m.
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typical big party politics, you don't fall in line we will get rid of you.
Jul 25, 2008 at 1:57 p.m.
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I wonder if the Democratic party is nervous about a significant number of other Billary supporters voting for McCain?
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