Poobah ...>>"As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly." - Psalms 26:11<<

Actually that's Proverbs, but then again, you've been wrong before. Kind of like "repeating your folly." How's that vomit tasting?

RAF, I know you would prefer a one party system.

"The two party system has just become a shameful joke."
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Big Clap! I could not agree more.

poobah;
You are right on about that, but in reality that is no different then the democrats, who were all cheering for Iraq to go to hell, and the economy to collapse under Bush. I sure am not defending the Iraq war, but it was pretty sad to see politics come down to the opposition cheering the country to flounder, and then just blame the sitting President. The two party system has just become a shameful joke. There is no patriotism, no care about your fellow man and citizen. It's all about deception and WINNING, so you can then give back to all your corporate lobbyists/donors who got you in there.

Donna, you asked where the peace loving Mulims where, I provided several links for you.

The entire Obama administration is in epic collapse.

"In two separate interviews Monday, Romney took aim at Obama’s remark in a inter view on CBS’s “60 Minutes” that aired Sunday that “there are going to be bumps in the road” as the US builds a relationship with new governments emerging from the Arab Spring. The Republican nominee said Obama triviliazed events overseas. “I can’t imagine saying something like the assassination of ambassadors is a bump in the road,” Romney said in an interview with ABC News Monday.

The Obama campaign responded similarly. “Today, we saw what Mitt Romney meant when he told a closed door group of high-dollar donors that he would ‘take advantage of the opportunity’ to politicize an international crisis to help his campaign,” campaign spokesperson Lis Smith said in a statement. “He’s purposely misinterpreting the President’s words and making reckless statements about the death of four Americans in Libya, apparently for the sole purpose of his own political gain. Using this incident to launch political attacks should be beneath someone seeking to be our nation’s Commander-in-Chief.”" [ http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/0... ]

Sadly, what Romney said in the now famous video was true. He will take advantage of the opportunity to politicize an international crisis solely for his own political gain. Romney should be ashamed, but this is him doubling down on this issue which in recent polling has cost him significant swing state support. He apparently is now so desperate that he figures he has to use any and all of his slimy tactics -- including those which have previously failed him. "As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly." - Psalms 26:11

The only thing in 'epic collapse' is listening to Krauthammer, Rove, O'Reilly, Hanity, and all the Faux boys who have NOW just figured out what I said back in May, in that Mittens had ZERO shot beating Obama and is TOTALLY LOST! It's like it's NOW just finally all dawning upon them! Consequently they are in full attack mode on every issue now. Failing to even realize that it won't matter how bad Obama screws up, people are not going to vote for the BIG STIFF, Rommney. This was as big of a no brainer as it was in 2000 when I said the same exact same (and cashed in HUGE on Intrade) when Bush beat Kerry. Another situation where the idiots in control of the party put up an out of touch MA aristocrat, who was simply TOTALLY unelectable in a nation wide contest. Both idiot parties truly believed the guy would win simply because the sitting president was a disaster.
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Look forward to listening to Kraut, and all the GOP apologists make up excuses on how their brain trust botched this election. It's an absolute riot hearing them now on faux now. It's like hearing a bunch of kids who FINALLY figured out that the tooth fairy was not real. It's priceless stuff to watch every night!

wislady, if you did not make that statement, then you plagiarized it as you did not quote it. Learn how to quote others if you don't want their words taken for yours. The rules for quoting are quite simple and I'm sure your capable of implementing them.

donnaw, I think you missed something there, buddy.

go to school... Lefties seem to be in their own little world, not focusing on the issues but rather grabbing at minutiae. Their small brains can't grasp the bigger issues. So just let them live in their rarified atmosphere. It's all they can handle.

poobah
You are the perfect example of what the MSM does. I did NOT make that statement, even though you put it in quotes and attributed it to me.

Here is is again.....you must have misread the post.

Audience video: D'Souza gets standing ovation in Chicago

http://youtu.be/xBm3w9nPoio

LOL, atmospheric pressure seems to be a bit of a threadkiller for my local Repubs...;-)

Yeah, Romney could probably do better, he seems to have some pretty good ideas--“I appreciate the fact that she is on the ground, safe and sound. And I don’t think she knows just how worried some of us were,” Romney said. “When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly, there’s no — and you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem. So it’s very dangerous. And she was choking and rubbing her eyes. Fortunately, there was enough oxygen for the pilot and copilot to make a safe landing in Denver. But she’s safe and sound.”

donnaw said, " I thought that was what we elected Obama to be for us."

"We?" Did you vote for Obama, donnaw? "Us?" Do you mean the 47% that Mitt said it's his job not to worry about?

wislady said, "D'Souza gets standing ovation in Chicago"

Very similar to the orchestrated standing ovation Stalin often received: [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXGh_sbP... ]

And today the presidents of Libya, Pakistan, and Afghanistan are meeting in New York at the UN. And where is Obama? Why he and Michelle are taping a show with The View " A few weeks ago he went to Las Vegas to campaign rather then meet with Netanyahu. The Mideast burns while Obama fiddles. But good old Hillary is Drafted to meet with these world leaders. I thought that was what we elected Obama to be for us. Oh that's right, he makes the speeches, she does the work.

Audience video: D'Souza gets standing ovation in Chicago

http://youtu.be/xBm3w9nPoio

Poo...go ahead and comment and I will disregard. You are too funny!

donnaw, funny you'd ask what my opinion about anything after saying, "poo...I will follow your wishes and disregard what you post." Make up your mind.

poo...how do you like that Obama flag?

Motor -- the issue I see with your comment is that the lame stream -- does seem to feel there is an issue -- They have become the left wing parrots and effectively have no credibility except with the far left. So what you have is Fox reporting and covering -- providing what I consider to be valid -- comments and questions -- but you need to sift through the bias and lack of reporting.

There are some serious questions to answer and the press is not pushing the admin.... In my opinion this debacle is worse than fast and furious and will have much longer , deeper, lasting impacts on our national security. There would even be some conspiracy theories that will come out of this. Just wait -- they are coming. In the end -- most of you far left parrots -- turn around and call the otherside the same thing -- yet resist opening your eyes.. You would have more credibility as would others that support the left if you actually were critical of the mistakes made by the admin and drove for an open discussion and dialog about how they screwed this up.

donnaw said, "I did use the headline....the rest of the quote includes the promise that when he is elected the Muslim world will look at us differently."

Oh, I know you inaccurately attributed the headlines of an article as Obama's words. That's why I called you on it. "The REST of the quote?" You never quoted one sentence of what Obama said in your original comment so trying to now say, "the REST of the quote" is another inaccurate statement.

"As it turns out, no president does it the exact same way. Under the standards of this ad, Republican icon Ronald Reagan skipped his intelligence briefings 99 percent of the time."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact...

The Libyan people as a whole don't support the terrorist attacks or the militias either:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/midd...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21...

http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI

Check out the cartoon of the Obama flag in today's Gaz online. What a egotistical, narcisstic reflection of the anointed one! There is no better example of where he is leading us and what he thinks of himself!

"Under the current president's leadership, "the Sept. 14, 2012 attack on Camp Bastion is arguably the worst day in USMC aviation history since the Tet Offensive of 1968".

Is the attack on the American base indicative of a policy that we need to leave or that we need to escalate? Had the last decade we spent in Iraq instead been spent on where the actual problems are, then maybe we'd be in a different place today. I think you can lay the fault of the state of the world at the feet of just about everybody at some point, but lets not lose focus and realize it's 100% politics with you folks.

I did use the headline....the rest of the quote includes the promise that when he is elected the Muslim world will look at us differently. We will be safer. "I may be Christian but I also understand their point of view (!) . I have life long familial ties to Muslims." I find this attitude to be naive and dangerous. Wonder how the families left behind after 9/11 feel about that comment. He has an agenda that we should be very afraid of. And where are the so called peace loving Muslims refuting these terrorists? IMO he is an apologist for America.

CBS Omits Clip From Broadcast of Obama Admitting His Campaign Has Gone ‘Overboard’ & Made Campaign Ad ‘Mistakes’

"In an interview for “60 Minutes,” Obama surprisingly contended that some of his campaign ads and contentions “go overboard” and have errors, but these admissions were omitted from the final interview that aired."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cbs-omit...

theone

Here is a more accurate link for the writer....

http://www.dineshdsouza.com/books/the-en...

donnaw, quit attributing article headlines to Obama as though they were his words. What Obama said was, "I truly believe that the day I’m inaugurated, not only the country looks at itself differently, but the world looks at America differently." [ http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/20... ]

theone...can't open your link.

theone.. How about you comment on this: "The day I'm inaugurated Muslim hostility will stop." Obama, New Hampshire Public Radio, 11/21/07

Wislady? Are you out there?

No comment on Mr. D'souza?

Is this just another case of right wing hypocrisy? Heaven forbid.

Under the current president's leadership, "the Sept. 14, 2012 attack on Camp Bastion is arguably the worst day in USMC aviation history since the Tet Offensive of 1968".

http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stori...

On a side note, how many of you know this about the writer and director of 2016 Obama, Dinesh D'souza? "D'souza was quoted after 9-11 as saying,
"One of the themes that we hear constantly, is that the people who did this [the 9/11 terrorists] are cowards, NOT TRUE! Look at what they did. You have a bunch of guys willing to give their lives. None of them backed out. All of them slammed themselves into pieces of concrete, these are BRAVE WARRIORS!"

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/ha...

How come we never here the righties condemn this?

Wislady?

At least several of the sites have been taken down, so at this time, in order to keep the site working....I will not provide the link.

It is also available on Netflix if you have that.

By the way....anyone watch Obama on 60 minutes tonight?

Obama on Recent Middle East Violence.... 'Bumps in the Road'.

I wonder if Ambassador Stevens was one of those bumps.

Care to share the link?

Apparently someone enjoyed giving the incorrect information.

Good news......the documentary is available online. I just watched it again tonight.

wis....wrote"FoxNews will be airing the Obama: 2016 documentary on Sunday night at 9 PM EST."

Once again wis....is right on with her info...NOT.

Jawohl, Herr Krautenhammer!
Eine gute little soldier für die neuen Konservativen!

Foreign policy is the trash in the trash can that will always stink even after the trash can appears empty.

poo...I will follow your wishes and disregard what you post.

It's obvious that President Obama's foreign policies work about as well as his economic policies. But all that means nothing to some folks. Obama's a Democrat and that's all they need to know. They also seem to think that people who oppose the President's policies, such as Krauthammer and some of their fellow posters, should be silenced and/or thoroughly disparaged lest their message have too great an influence. Debate by disparagement, the method of choice for those who can't defend their choice of President by his record.

donnaw, judging from your frequent responses to my comments, it seems that you should be the one disregarding my comments. Then again, I've never seen anyone accuse you of practicing what you preach.

third eye...disregard poo, he is so focused on minutiae because he can't focus on the bigger issues of the failed Obama presidency....the failed promises, lies, ineptness at foreign policy, the juvenile grad student wet behind the ears staff members. Read the article The Gaz has posted about CNN (gasp) being in hot water because the reported on Ambassador Steven's fear of the rising of Islamic unrest in Benghazi in his diary. A flagrant act of journalism.
"The day I am inaugurated Muslim hostility will cease." Obama, New Hampshire Public Radio, 11/21/07

http://gazettextra.com/photos/2012/sep/2...

@motorman: "All of which will have no impact on the tricorne hat crowd, who only parrot what they hear from FOX or el rushbo". Hahaha, thanks for a good Saturday night belly laugh. Some of you are sooooooooooo predictable. If I had the time, I'd put together a montage of all the comments which said essentially the same thing LOL! A big +1 and a FB "Like" to your uniquely stated and yet still terribly cliched misstatement of reality. HAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!

What is an el rushbo?

Oh, I see Poobah. Gee Mitt Romney should exit the race now. /s
About the first 3 sentences of my post.....

Third_Eye said, "Let's understand your point Poobah. Governor Romney should resign because he said 13% and by your mathamatical figuring it is actually 12.2%? Really----.08%?"

As usual, you again have totally failed to comprehend what was written. What I said, exactly, was, "Has anyone heard when Mitt will be withdrawing from the race now that he has disqualified himself from being president?"

Let me give you a little background information on this story, Third_Eye, and please read slowly so you have some chance of comprehending this.

"In an interview with ABC News in July, however, Romney dismissed the idea that he would ever pay more taxes than legally owed, saying if he did so he wouldn't be "qualified" to be president.

"I don't pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don't think I'd be qualified to become president," Romney said. [ http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/en... ]

And then what did Mitt do? He paid more taxes than were legally due:

"Mitt Romney's trustee said in a campaign press release that Romney artificially inflated his own effective tax rate so it would remain above 13 percent by deferring $1.75 million in charitable deductions." [ http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/en... ]

Read that very slowly, Third_Eye. Mitt said in July of this year (just two months ago) that if he ever paid more taxes than were legally due, he would not be qualified to be president. Two months later his accountant announced that Mitt was paying more than was legally due. There are two dots there for you, Third_Eye. One dot is Mitt's July statement. The second dot is Mitt paying more taxes than were legally due. Let's see if you can connect the dots. There are, after all, only two of them.

RE: poobah Sep 21, 2012 at 6:17 p.m.
The repeated calls for Governor Romney's tax returns led me to speculate that the liberals would use the tax forms to divert attention from the real issues.
Poobah is off topic AND is dissecting Governor Romney's tax returns. Just as predicted.
Let's understand your point Poobah. Governor Romney should resign because he said 13% and by your mathamatical figuring it is actually 12.2%? Really----.08%?

The Hernandez Case

"Another, smaller probe occurred in 2007 under the same ATF Phoenix field division. The Fidel Hernandez case began when the ATF identified Mexican suspects who bought weapons from a Phoenix gun shop over a span of several months. The probe ultimately involved over 200 guns, a dozen of which were lost in Mexico. On September 27, 2007, ATF agents saw the original suspects buying weapons at the same store and followed them toward the Mexican border. The ATF informed the Mexican government when the suspects successfully crossed the border, but Mexican law enforcement were unable to track them.[4][10] Less than two weeks later, on October 6, William Newell, then ATF's Special Agent in Charge (SAC) of the Phoenix field division, shut down the operation at the behest of William Hoover, ATF's assistant director for the office of field operations.[30] No charges were filed. Newell, who was Phoenix ATF SAC from June 2006 to May 2011, would later play a major role in Operation Fast and Furious.[4][12]

The Hernandez case was referenced in a briefing paper prepared for Attorney General Michael Mukasey prior to his meeting with the Mexican Attorney General Medina Mora on November 16, 2007. The paper stated, "ATF has recently worked jointly with Mexico on the first-ever attempt to have a controlled delivery of weapons being smuggled into Mexico by a major arms trafficker" and that "the first attempts at this controlled delivery have not been successful." The paper also stated, "ATF would like to expand the possibility of such joint investigations and controlled deliveries -- since only then will it be possible to investigate an entire smuggling network, rather than arresting simply a single smuggler."[31]
The Medrano Case

The 2008 Alejandro Medrano case involved both ATF SAC William Newell and cooperating Tucson gun dealer Mike Detty of Operation Wide Receiver. ATF Phoenix allowed about 100 guns to be taken into Mexico over the objections of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) personnel who became aware of the case. Phoenix ATF SAC Newell acknowledged to ICE "that letting guns cross the border was part of ATF’s plan". In August 2010, Medrano was sentenced to 46 months, his associate Hernan Ramos received 50 months and their fellow conspirators received prison terms from 14 to 30 months, but the target, a Sinaloa Cartel kingpin, Javier Elenes Ruiz, nicknamed "Rambo," remained untouched inside Mexico."
Wiki
"How many border agents and other people died as a result of the Bush program?"
Who knows?
Both administrations were burdened by incompetent underlings, obviously, running "Project Gunrunner."

Mooshoo:No matter what anybody on the opposite side of you writes you always have a snide, mean comment. It is as if only you can judge what is right or wrong and of course you are NEVER WRONG, RIGHT?

The sad truth is.....there is NO foreign policy. It has taken almost two weeks for the WH to admit that the attacks which killed the ambassador were the result of terrorists. That is a fact. The news media is supposed to report the news, not make it up to suit the political needs of a campaign.

MooShoo

"A week later, the Salafist flag flies over four American embassies, even as the mob chants, “Obama, Obama, there are still a billion Osamas.”

The truth is....the "fish bait" you are referring to, was put there not only by an order (finally) of the current WH, but by intelligence gathered for years by the Bush administration. Even Obama did acknowledge that at one point.

Your comment AGAIN shows your disdain for conservatives by referring to "teabag ramblings".

"I consider my response to your comments the equivalent a spray of air freshener in a crowded room full of republicans."

That sounds like a comment a skunk would make.

Thanks to the president? Everything I read stated the US military supported by gathered intelligence performed the task of not only entering the compound but also dropping him into the water. Sadly the left fringe want to give all credit for saying the mission could happen, to the same person, they want to say has no culpability in the current failed economy following his decisions to "fix it".

Once again, Charles rocks!

"I don't pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don't think I'd be qualified to become president," Mitt Romney

Now that that's settled....time to move on and put our support elsewhere.

MooShoo

No need to be rude and crude. I have as much right to post links as any one else.

Fortunately for us, and unfortunately for the neo-cons that Krauthammer smacks his leathery lips for, things are not always what they seem.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/21/world/afri...

I hate to break the news to some of you, but we already seem to be at war, or is it called "workplace violence"?

MooShoo

Why don't you do a little research and see how many people have died since Obama took office.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/...
http://stpeteforpeace.org/obama.html

If by some miracle Mittens wins the election, I'm willing to bet we'll be at war with Iran inside of 12 months.

"Romney deliberately did not claim about $1.75 million in charitable deductions on his 2011 taxes in order to artificially keep his effective tax rate above 13 percent, Malt said in a statement Friday. This was to keep Romney’s taxes in line with a claim he made earlier this year that he had never paid less than a 13 percent rate — without this deliberate overpayment he’d have had an estimated tax rate of just 12.2 percent, the lowest he’s disclosed for any year.

In doing so, Romney contradicted a July interview in which he said that he should be disqualified from being president if he ever paid more taxes than he owed." [ http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/0... ]

Has anyone heard when Mitt will be withdrawing from the race now that he has disqualified himself from being president? 12.2%! Geez, that's less than the 13.3% in Social Security and Medicare taxes that employers and employees pay the government for many of the 47%! Mitt, Mitt, Mitt! You should be ashamed.

FYI....

FoxNews will be airing the Obama: 2016 documentary on Sunday night at 9 PM EST.

pharm

The Bush program was called Operation Wide Receiver, the guns were tracked by microchip. That program was very small, when compared to the Obama administration program. When the program proved to be failing, it was STOPPED two years before Obama became president.
How many border agents and other people died as a result of the Bush program?

I guess when the Fast and Furious investigation is done, we will know.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...
Mitt being Mitt.

I don`t think anyone would "rather campaign".I get that you, and others don`t like Obama, what I don`t get is the support you give to other candidates without the least bit of scrutiny of their positions. And, when shown how they have stretched the truth, misinformed, outright lied, you give them a pass because they are "your" guys. An example; the guy who was in charge of "Fast and Furious", started the practice of "gun-walking" during the Bush administration. They lost guns then also.
http://forums.charlotteobserver.com/?q=n...
If you have read the various reports out there, you would know that the only guns "walked" under "Fast and Furious" were by an agent not authorized to do so. The rest were lost because of Federal Attorneys not issuing warrants because of US law.
http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/20...

pharm

Terrorists don't need a reason to attack Americans.....the fact remains that Obama would rather campaign and party than deal with what is going on.

The WH and Hillary Clinton call it terrorism....Obama is still "evolving".

Incompetent or deceitful....either way, throw them out of the WH.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/Ro...
Should be required reading. This conservative writer is not a cheerleader for either parties extremists.
"They are wrong that Obama’s alleged weakness caused or invited the attacks."

PanamaRed
How about reading the link before you comment?

Obama pressed on failures at Univision forum

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/091......

I simply commented after that link on yet another LIE.

wislady, do you actually ever READ the articles before posting your comments since they rarely, if ever, pertain to the topic at hand or are your arguments so weak that you must deflect from the subject being discussed?

Epic collapse, really, Chuckles? Gosh, what countries have gone to war with us? Which countries have turned against us? We have a new staunch ally in Libya; the fact that it has a fractious public and anti-American militias, some of them with Al Qaeda affiliation or sympathies, doesn't exactly mean we're worse off than when the country was a state sponsor of terrorism, something that numerous Republican administrations failed to halt. Tell us again, Chuckles, how different a Republican foreign policy would be. Killing more brown people is not exactly a prescription for getting them to stop being angry at us.
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The fact that the Gazette continues to publish this professional troll is an embarrassment.

I had pondered this before. But now I am absolutely sure that Kraut is not only not a journalist, but a fool as well.

Obama has had a very bad week.

Obama pressed on failures at Univision forum

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/091...

Yesterday, he lied again.

Fast and Furious began under Obama. Fast and Furious did NOT track the guns.

Wide Receiver was the program under Bush, which ended 2 years before Obama took office. Wide Receiver actually TRACKED the guns.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/201...