go-to-school:
I TOTALLY agree with you on that comment. I mean, I said Mittens was a train wreck, who would be BEAT DOWN, many many months ago, but this is just a SPECTACULAR IMPLOSION. Far better then even I ever imagined! I mean this is just GREAT STUFF to watch! I thought I saw it all back in 2000 when John Kerry went on that staged duck hunting trip in OH to try and 'connect' with hunters. I mean that was thee moment where you just said CHA CHING...This guy is LOST. With Mittens it's like a one duck hunting trip after another every single day! This is SPECTACULAR stuff to watch!

The Romney/Ryan tailspin is delicious to watch. I just can't decide if it's savory, like a big old helping of "Emergency room hot dish", or sweet, like a slice of "self tan pie". Either way, I can't get enough.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra...

Nice one Barthenon. You playing Dungeons and Dragons again?

The devastating results of the current president's leadership, "the Sept. 14, 2012 attack on Camp Bastion is arguably the worst day in USMC aviation history since the Tet Offensive of 1968".

http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stori...

http://gazettextra.com/photos/2012/sep/2...

http://gazettextra.com/photos/2012/sep/2...

Hey you repubs, dare you to go to
http://www.gazettextra.com/news/2012/sep...
and do your whinning and crying about how these lazy people are sponge'in off the gov and just need to go get a job.

They most certainly do need to eliminate allot of people on welfare.It is just that both sides of the political isle can't agree on how much.By the time they get "balanced" in any amount of redistribution,it is always the same thing.Redistributation into their pocket.
Their redistribution is designed to keep the extra gipig of trickle down economics in " power ".
Run along now,"Patriots".......
And don't forget to redistribute this.

"The GOP are trying to block the President's changes to the work requirement because it was Obama's idea and for no other reason"
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Wow, more lies from Walter. The secret fact, the house voted, in bi-partsan fashion to stop his changes. It was blocked by members of both parties just like his budgets have been for the past 3 years. The same three years that the US Senate has failed it's duty to pass a budget.

motorman, so your saying Obama feels threatened.

ezoner,
A person, married with 3 kids, that had been working their $13 an hour job for 13 years lost his/her job for whatever reason. They were on unemployment for 2 years during which they took the only job they could get which only pays $9.75 per hour in the new American economy. The skills they have are out dated and out moded. Now that their unemployment benefits have run out, they're going to end up on welfare anyway. Why not allow them to go back to school, collect benefits while they better themselves and get a better job in the end while at the same time allowing a young single person that can afford to live on $9.75 per hour to take that job? All the waiver that the Governors asked for would be doing is allowing welfare money to be used like speicalized unemployment compensation. WIA and TAA already operate in this way. For all intents and purposes, it's just an expansion of those programs.

Sigma, In Washington the pundits keep saying that Obama is Smart. Has anyone seen his transcripts? He sure has not shown he has what it takes to be a successful president. Maybe we should resurect "It's the Economy Stupid" as a new campaign slogan.

You can lead a liberal to knowledge but you can't make him think

Motorman, you're last comment is spot on. The problem with American politics is that the redistribution of wealth and income is from lower and middle class persons to the ultra-wealthy. We need to reverse that, to reverse the growing gap in income and wealth disparity and start helping those who truly need it with housing, food, education and healthcare. Mitt Romney doesn't need tax breaks that allow him to pay a tax rate that is well under the percentage that people making well less than 1/100th of what he is earning are paying. The only problem with income and wealth redistribution in this country is the current direction of the redistribution. It needs to be reversed so it flows from ultra-wealthy to low and middle income.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...

Ezoner said, " Sorry -- but I am tired of people maiking excuses in order to get my hard earned, deserved wages via redistribution from MY federal taxes into others walletts."

Then you surely won't be voting for Romney or Obama. Both are bought and paid for by economic elitists who have been directing the redistribution of your "hard earned, deserved wages" to the ultra-wealthy for decades.

Walter -- I am sorry -- but even that excuse for changing work requirements doesnt fly with me. I paid for my education -- ALL of it in college. Nobody paid for my loans. I receive no government grants -- my parents made just enough for me to not qualify. I made the commitments, I made the payments. I worked meaningless jobs to get by. Sorry -- but I am tired of people maiking excuses in order to get my hard earned, deserved wages via redistribution from MY federal taxes into others walletts.

Before you go blaming Bush again, let me tell you all something. Obama signed that first stimulus and promised the unemployment would not go above 8%. When, in 2009 they proudly declared "The recession is over", from that point on, they owned this economy. Their are two very big reasons he has failed. 1-Obamacare, 2-energy policy.
Two things Romney can address immediately for a recovery- finally.

It's a shame what Obama has done to the human spirit and the economy that we now disagree on what has happen to millions and millions on welfare. The best social program is a job for crying out loud.
I refuse to believe people are happy with that kind of life. Some yes, but I'll be happy to vote for Romney/Ryan to up lift the human spirit by giving them back their self respect and hopefully their self worth as a contributing member of society.

Obama’s Trick to Get Around Work Requirements

The Obama Administration issued a new directive stating that the traditional TANF work requirements can be waived or overridden by a legal device called the section 1115 waiver authority under the Social Security law (42 U.S.C. 1315).

Section 1115 states that “the Secretary may waive compliance with any of the requirements”

My question is why? Why is Obama so motivated with getting as many people on government assistance as possible?
Clinton knew the program worked. It was bi-partisan.

Romney will fix it.

God people are dense and uninformed. The GOP are trying to block the President's changes to the work requirement because it was Obama's idea and for no other reason. Governors, both Repub and Dem, asked for this waiver because so many of their unemployed lack skill or the skills they have need to be updated. The previous requirement for federal money for welfare was that 50% of the recipients be working. What the waiver would allow is states to allow some unemployed to receive benefits while going to school to gain more skills to become more employable. In doing so their welfare caseload might end up having less than 50% working. That's why they wanted the waivers, and that's why the President went along with it. God forbid a good idea get implemented in government.

They voted to remove the waiver program that Obama is trying to put into effect that allow states to have more flexibility in the law with federal approval. No where in the law does it take away the requirement to work.

concernedwi

Why did they take the vote yesterday (19 dems voting with) to keep the welfare requirement?

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/ho...

2011 tax returns released - paid 2 mill which was investment income so he was taxes twice on that.
30% of his income went to charity. Do you think Romney believes people and not government have a better understanding of helping the poor?

Sorry to tell you this but Clinton lied. Obama stripped a lot of it in the stimlus bill and took it out behind the backs of Congress altogether. Clinton is a politican first. Welfare spiked both times. Over 40 million people now on some sort of Government welfare.

Wislady, the work for welfare program is still in place just like Clinton put into effect. During the convention Clinton address this issue saying that it was usually Republican Governors asking for changes to it for more flexibility. The myths from Romney's ads have been debunked many many times :http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/28/rick-santorum/Santorum-Romney-claim-Obama-ending-welfare-work/

concernedwi

I am certainly NOT ashamed (never said I was) of working about 45 years, many times several jobs, and raising 3 children myself (without being on assistance or food stamps). In fact, I am rather proud of the fact that I was able to provide for my children, who have actually been quite successful in their careers.

It is YOU who should be ashamed for your clouded inference that I should be.

I have NEVER said people should not get unemployment.....I do believe when they receive it for several years, they should be looking for work or pursuing additional training during that time. The work waiver from the welfare reforms championed under Clinton/republicans should stand.

Lawmakers to Obama "GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT"

Romney, they only one of the two candidates that condemned the terrorists and not an American

Also Wislady, on a daily basis how many security reports is the president given? How many of these reports result in zero attacks? I would assume that this number is a lot greater than those that are carried out. But if you want to complain about a President ignore warnings and letting 4 people die, then Bush should be condemed for ignore security warnings about a plan involving a plan that ended up killing nearly 3,000.

Wislady, you shouldn't be ashamed that you get social security, it's the reason that the program was setup. You worked and paid into it so you get the benefits from it. Just like people who have paid into unemployement that now find themselves without a job. They are now getting the benefits of paying for those years. Only 1/3 of people on social security end up paying income tax so the majority 2/3rds are included in the group that is the 47%.

Midnight; with every post you become less credible. "Fighting for America's freedom and safety. These brave men and women love this country. Do you?" Yes I do, that's why I want 25% of the nation’s wealth going to military contractors to stop. We have enough missiles to destroy the world 10 times over. The Republicans give great lip service to support the troops when they are sending them off to war but it's a completely different story when they return physically and mentally maimed. Currently Republicans are blocking a bill that would help veterans when they return home. We can spare 8 billion to send them to war but we can't find any money to support them when they come home. Republicans are not supporting the troops; they are supporting the huge military contractors. http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-se...

Baratheon_Prince said, "poobah, respectfully, I can assume then that you are firmly against the use of no-fly zones..."

No, I'm not. My problem with the no-fly zones in Iraq is that they were never authorized by an international body AND without a formal declaration of war. We are supposed to be a nation of laws, not men, but our recent military actions around the world (since WW2 surely) appear to be as much the result of one man's agenda (the president at the time) than a formally declared war. Oh, Congress always manages to eventually get around to funding these undeclared wars, with much fanfare amidst a swell of patriotic fervor, but then again Congress is fairly good at funding just about anything if given the opportunity to borrow more money. And few politicians want to appear to not "support" our troops fighting to "defend our freedom." Even if that means funding a military action halfway around the world against a country that never was a threat to our security and freedom. Boutros Boutros-Gali, UN Secretary General at the time the NFZs were created (AFTER the first undeclared Gulf war) called the NFZs, "illegal" and not authorized by any UN resolution. These are some of the issues I had specifically with the Iraqi NFZs.

Id rather have a good politician as a president than a smart one. Obama is smart but hes no good. So what you call Romney not smart... What he said in that video is good.

Based on your comments you're also ignorant of what is, or is not, a lawful order.

"I was following orders," hasn't cut it for over 60 years now. Military personnel have an obligation to follow a lawful order and a duty to disobey any illegal order. If you you don't appreciate and respect the airspace rights of all countries, that's your choice. I would hope others do.

"I'm sure most every retired Air Force person should appreciate and respect the airspace rights of all countries."
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That just shows your ignorant [lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular] position of information you know nothing about. Non-active (retired) members are in no position to dictate civilian policy control over active military members. Since our country is structured in such a way that the military only acts as directed by those placed in charge by voters your views have little respect for actual events or conditions to events. These civilian government people then direct our nations policy to include where our aircraft are positioned and the mission they perform while there. Clearly your view on what you "think" others might hold as true is in contrast to reality.

Still no news on this site about the lies put forth by the white house about the events leading up to an Ambassador’s death or the corruption in the DOJ over an agents death while the same white house refused investigation access by the DOJ IG.

Instead the left fringe would rather defend a dead international rogue and pretend our nation’s aircraft were invading others airspace...pathetic.

"Particularly when no declaration of war has been made and the basis for the aggression is nothing but fabrications."
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Continue on.....And the fabrication is simply a means to keep the military industrial complex receiving MEGA corporate welfare. As without all these 'threats' there is no need for this multi billion $$$ defense monstrosity of a budget. When the defense budget gets cut, the economy takes a huge hit, as it's become so reliant on the government corporate welfare to support it.
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Next big 'threat' errrrrr; pre-emptive strike will be on Iran. Gotta keep those darn evil doers from taking over the world..

I'm sure most every retired Air Force person should appreciate and respect the airspace rights of all countries. Iraq wasn't firing on American aircraft that were flying in American airspace. Our aircraft were flying in Iraqi airspace without Iraqi approval. Nations have a right under international laws to defend their territory. America, the UK and France unilaterally declared no-fly zones over Iraq without any international body authorizing such an action. Iraq was in accordance with international law in firing on the aircraft invading its airspace, indeed protecting the freedom and safety of their citizens from foreign threats. Those flights were not protecting the freedom and safety of Americans, they were endangering the freedom and safety of Iraqis.

Would you defend America firing on Chinese military aircraft flying into American airspace without approval of the American government? Of course you would. What's the difference when it comes to other countries like Canada or Iraq or Germany? Particularly when no declaration of war has been made and the basis for the aggression is nothing but fabrications.

"I want you to tell me why...Saddam Hussein was a threat to "America's freedom and safety"
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Besides the fact he was firing on our aircraft?

Oh fellow Patriots...I told ye we should go for someone the People could relate to better....like Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, or Michelle Bachmann, or or or..what was the name of that funny little guy harpin on the gold standard....

ooo....shiney

“Ha, ha. We’re in the stretch, aren’t we?” Mr. Romney said before promptly changing the subject and pointing to the sky. “Look at those clouds. It’s beautiful. Look at those things.”

poobah: LOL! thanks :)

All things need subsidization at a time or two.Just goes to show how out of touch Romney and the republicans are.
The right redistributes too.They just don't say that they do.
Political contributions,donations to charity,Etc
I read an article about Romney and some of the benefits that he attended.$500.00 dollar a plate.And they aren't just giving it away either.They get it back more than what they put in.What is that called?Redistribution of wealth.
Nothing is wrong with making some donations.But when it is oxymoron to the event,then it is redistribution.Even if it is just a right off,it is still redistribution.
Romney isn't against redistribution.He is just comparing apples to oranges and saying that his way is better.We already know this.
Both sides need to quit calling the American people ignorant.Romney isn't against redistribution,he is just being hypocritical about it,which is the same thing if not worse because it is what amounts to double or nothing.Taking back twice as much as what you put in.
Both sides are calling the American people stupid.Are they on to something?Both sides are insinuating that all Americans should be on welfare.It is about them.They all want to redistribute the wealth.It's just about where.
Yet,the electorate collage continues to change definition so that they can continue to control by way of one or the other.It's as though they want to say that you are all so stupid that this is why they need to run things because you just don't get it.Yet not quite brave enough to just walk in and take it.They played you,and so for this,they need to take over.Theft by deception.
I wonder when you people will quit thinking that you can all become Movie Stars and Doctors by comparing yourself to morons of the same party?I wonder when you "Patriots" will quit thinking that by voting Right means that those are your only choices.
I don't see where either side is tackling the education level of all levels do to the fact that simplicity at there definition has nothing to do with math to make sure your equations are right,as it once did.That is because the power that they yield is such as unprofessional theatrical level of Star Trek scenarios and Hollywood money which has completely confused the "Poor" politician.
Since occupational fluctuation is at an all time high,maybe you better start thinking about getting into the armed forces instead of
A vote for none of the above is still a vote.This isn't a two party system anyway.The two has is dead.
None of the Above is a vote.

baegucb, along those same lines, for those of you familiar with the "uncanny valley" hypothesis, I think Romney is somewhere around the 80% human likeness level. This accounts for his negative familiarity with most voters. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_val... ]

I heard Romney called Al Gore for some tips on appearing life like ;)

Midnight,
I watch Fox News. They report the truth every once in a while. Their own Fox News poll showed President Obama leading Mitt Romney. Go FOX News!

Bush was a commander in chief. Obama doesn't know is back side from a whole in the ground. Hillary had to poke him with a cattle prod just to get Bin Laden. I don't suppose you heard that either swimming in the media backwash.

http://nation.foxnews.com/mitt-romney/20...

Joke Obama, "yes we can" is now "no I can't"
Give him lleh Romney!

Midnight_Ride said, "Fighting for America's freedom and safety."

I want you to take a look at this photo of Donald Rumsfeld smiling and shaking hands with Saddam Hussein. [ http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/_/... ] That photo was taken at the same time America was providing tons of military aid and cash to Saddam Hussein. And also to the Mujaheddin and Taliban in Afghanistan.

And then, after looking at that photo of Rumsfeld and Hussein, I want you to tell me why just years later, Saddam Hussein was a threat to "America's freedom and safety." Your attempt to ignore the reality of the Bush wars by trying to appeal to the patriotic sensibilities of Americans is disingenuous at best.

http://nation.foxnews.com/barack-obama/2...

Because the American people voted in 2010 to stop you Mr. Obama. This country is still worth saving and Romney/Ryan is a great start.

Fighting for America's freedom and safety. These brave men and women love this country. Do you?

Spin? is your head in the sand? Is that what the "s" is in MSNBC

Obama is a complete failure. First with our healthcare system, then our economy, now our foreign policy. The failed Presidency is now complete.

Midnight_Ride said, "They figure it cost us about $1.37 trillion poobah? 8 years - Seems like such a small amount compared to Obama's 6 trillion in just 3 years."

That figure of $1.37 trillion is only additional costs for the Bush wars and doesn't include the other trillions of dollars Bush II borrowed or the $700 billion per year he spent on the military budget.

Midnight_Ride said, "And the world was much safer for it."

Oh yeah, real safe place, Midnight_Ride. More Americans have been killed in the war on terror in Bush's wars than were killed on 9/11. Real safe place. 4,488 Americans killed, 33,184 wounded in Iraq alone! Add the 2,011 Americans killed in Afghanistan and you have 2.5 times as many Americans killed in the Bush wars as were killed on 9/11. The world includes Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan last I checked. Those were real safe places, weren't they? So safe that Bush left office without finishing what he started and left the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It would appear the left is more worried about Romney defeating Obama then anything else happening in the nation. I guess they have every right to be worried about their failure.

FOX - Israel and the muslim world
FOX businss - the economy

real news.

MsNBC at this momen 6:08pm still clinging to the Romney hacked up and edited video. They must think their audience are a bunch of suckers.

They figure it cost us about $1.37 trillion poobah? 8 years - Seems like such a small amount compared to Obama's 6 trillion in just 3 years.

And the world was much safer for it. Now a weak America under Obama has caused all this. Our people are attacked on US soil at the Embassy and the press can't sweep it under the rug any more. They finally had to admit Obama's failures today at the White House. At least the reputable news outlets like FOX are reporting the world's problem with Obama. The others might still be going for the distract and cover up.

marge123

Sorry, that's how the program works. I didn't whine about paying in for my parents or grandparents though.

Midnight_Ride said, "Reminder thanks to poobah that Bush gave us all a piece of the action."

Yes, he sure did. A war in Iraq and one in Afghanistan. Both to defeat people his daddy and his daddy's buddy, Ronald Reagan, built up with arms and money in the 1980's and 1990's. Yeah, Saddam Hussein and the Taliban. Here's a link of a pic of Donald Rumsfeld smiling and shaking hands with Saddam just after handing over all sorts of military goodies to Saddam, if you're interested: [ http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/_/... ]

So yeah, Bush started two wars and gave us all a piece of the action in Iraq and Afghanistan. They figure it cost us about $1.37 trillion [ http://costofwar.com ]. How much did the Bush wars cost the people of Janesville? Take a look: [ http://costofwar.com/state/WI/city/janes... ]. Yeah, almost $240 million and counting and that's a conservative estimate. That's almost $3,800 for every man, woman and child in Janesville. Yeah, Bush sure did give us all a piece of that action, didn't he?

Of course, you won't mention the hundreds of thousands of people killed and maimed because of Bush's wars. Sadly, we all own a little piece of that too.

"if you get all your "freebies" that my generation are paying for. But you probably think your more "entitled" then those of us that have paid in more then you ever did--hmmm what do they call that?--ohhh a hypocrite."

Are some of you folks reading what you are posting???

So wiselady (used loosely) if your on social security(MEDICARE)and love the mittens and ly'n ryan then you should support "vouchers" immediately if they win--otherwise it would be a form of "socialism" if you get all your "freebies" that my generation are paying for. But you probably think your more "entitled" then those of us that have paid in more then you ever did--hmmm what do they call that?--ohhh a hypocrite.

Reminder thanks to poobah that Bush gave us all a piece of the action. Obama just gave it to the unions and gave us an empty promise of below 8% unemployment.

poobah, we've already established 47% includes Seniors, Military, child and property tax return recipients. Your precious liberal media is selectively editing the tape and you are stuck in the wind tunnel. Expand and view the station that busted their sorry ashes. FOX

wislady, let's look back at these figures that you failed to comment on. Obama didn't build the bulk of the 47% non-payers. Look to your hero, George W. Bush, for that distinction. The country saw a 59% increase in non-payers under George W. Bush.

"Entering the 2000s with one in four tax filers owing nothing, the nonpayers pool was supercharged by the Bush tax cuts in 2001 and 2003—especially by the doubling of the child credit to $1,000. By 2004, when the credit expansion was fully phased in, the number of nonpayers increased by 10.5 million, a 32-percent jump in the space of four years. In tax year 2008, the major tax change that created a record number of nonpayers was the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008, which included a tax rebate of $300 per person, $600 per couple. A family of four was eligible for a rebate of $1,200. These tax rebates boosted the number of nonpayers to nearly 52 million, 19 million more than the number of nonpayers in 2000 when President Bill Clinton left office. This represents a 58.6 percent increase in the number of nonpayers in less than a decade. By contrast, the total number of tax filers grew by only 10 percent during the same period." [ http://taxfoundation.org/article/record-... ]

I used to question why the left on this Gazette site come on with loose lips that sink ships. But they are simply being good pawns in the higher game of chess when you don't do the necessary leg work and allow yourself to be the wind tunnel.

Gandalf, FOX busted MSNBC today for doctoring the Romney tape. Lawrence O'Dunce went on and on about Romney and Israel. Problem is, he lied - they lied - Romney correct again on Israel, on America and on Obama's failed record.

Why not look at REAL stories.

(WARNING...this is a Fox site, because the MSM doesn't report these facts).

Study: Number of 'able-bodied' adults on food stamps doubled after stimulus change

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/...

This is a non story that has been going on far too long, another diversion from the chaos that has erupted all over the world.

Let's start talking about how this president has put us all in danger, how he failed to provide security for the Ambassador who was murdered (along with several others), and who is busily campaigning and appearing on late night talk shows and totally ignoring what is happening. He is MIA. How anyone can support him is beyond me. The MSM has totally played defense for him, when his actions are not defensible.

Am I supposed to be ashamed that I worked since I was 18, am nearing 70 years of age, and get Social Security?

I guess I fit into this classification...."49 percent of the U.S. population receive some kind of federal benefit"

I do get ONE benefit, I do NOT support Obama,...........so I don't know if I fit perfectly into the generalization.

THOSE WHO PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAX........I do NOT fit into this category.

Regarding the farmers, are you serious?

Any monies they get for the crops (if they are insured) in no way pays full compensation for the total loss.

Let's not forget the farmers who suffered because of the drought this year, they will/have received government benefits. I'm not saying that these programs are wrong, but they are part of the 47%.

Wislady, just to be clear I am not trying to attack you. However, if I remember right you are disabled and don't work. If you are getting either social security or disability then you are part of the 47% Romney was talking about. http://news.yahoo.com/mitt-romneys-47-pe...

*However, I also see Barry as a real person. In fact, I bet he is a very enjoyable person to hang out with. He seems very down to Earth. Mitt, on the other hand, is not so down to Earth.*

Give me a break. You're talking about two men so far removed from the "real people" that they couldn't see them without a telescope. They are both multi-millionaires, both went to Ivy League schools and private prep schools before that, both have lived and traveled abroad, neither have any idea what it means to do an honest day's work. Hell, when's the last time either guy pumped their own gas or did their own shopping?

Obama In 1998: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

http://youtu.be/ge3aGJfDSg4

Washington Post Awards Romney "4 Pinnochios" for Edited, 14-year-old Obama Clip

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact......

Romney- What a deceptive asssse!

WIslady, no I use it for entertainment. You still are avoiding my question.

Some people actually depend on late night comedy shows for their facts?

Wislady, the Democrats lost their super majority in August of 2008 when Ted Kennedy died allowing the Republicans to filabuster as often as they liked. Which they have done in record numbers blocking votes.

Wislady you avoided my question. No one is debating the 47%, but what is in debate is who is the 47%? Jon Stewert did a good wrap up of whose included http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-se...

Some folks still refuse to acknowledge that Clinton HAD to work with republicans, forcing some actual reform to take place.

If I recall, the democrats were actually in control the last two years of the Bush administration, so give them the credit they deserve.

So some of you don't believe that a minor has the right to the benefits of a deceased parent so they can continue to go to school?

But, you believe that people who are on welfare and able to work, shouldn't have to look for work.

Obama is the Food Stamp president.

Unbelievable.

The 47% is a factual number, no one can deny that...except maybe Obama supporters.

Wislady, Paul Ryan is part of that 47% since he took social security after his father's death. Have you ever took social security, unemployment, or disability at any time? If you did you are part of that 47% that Romney was talking about.

No, wislady, Obama didn't build the bulk of the 47% non-payers. Look to your hero, George W. Bush, for that distinction. The country saw a 59% increase in non-payers under George W. Bush.

"Entering the 2000s with one in four tax filers owing nothing, the nonpayers pool was supercharged by the Bush tax cuts in 2001 and 2003—especially by the doubling of the child credit to $1,000. By 2004, when the credit expansion was fully phased in, the number of nonpayers increased by 10.5 million, a 32-percent jump in the space of four years. In tax year 2008, the major tax change that created a record number of nonpayers was the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008, which included a tax rebate of $300 per person, $600 per couple. A family of four was eligible for a rebate of $1,200. These tax rebates boosted the number of nonpayers to nearly 52 million, 19 million more than the number of nonpayers in 2000 when President Bill Clinton left office. This represents a 58.6 percent increase in the number of nonpayers in less than a decade. By contrast, the total number of tax filers grew by only 10 percent during the same period." [ http://taxfoundation.org/article/record-... ]

Very interesting.

Introduction: The Obama you don't know

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama#.UFs...

Ironic Obama can never get about that 47% mark.

But then again only the nuttiest of the nuts watch MSNBC as FOX controls the top 5 spots again.

Oh no!!! MSNBC just busted on FOX for editing the tape of Romney. Listen to the network that tells you the truth and not the network that lies to you.

The 47%....Obama built that.

thatwaseasy, if I were you, I'd think twice about showing any poll that gives Romney 47% of anything :-) I think conservatives should have to swear on their tri-cornered hats to not utter 47% until after the election.

Oh no!!!!! Romney jumped into a 47% tie with Obama in the Gallup daily tracking poll. All this media spin? What the heck. Romney's not suppose to stand up for America or talk about getting 47% out of poverty. He's not suppose to be helping people get a job!!!

As an Independent I agree that Romney made a mess of his speech in that edited, censored video created by Jimmy Carter's grandson. Surprise! I don't really believe Romney meant he will intentionally disenfranchise 47% of the 'taxpayers' he referenced (approx 122 million Americans, or technically 37% of the people - not 47% as alleged)and turn his back to them. Romney is right, though .. 99% of those people won't vote for Romney. So he told the truth.

As to Obama's claim on Letterman about Romney's mis-speak, that Obama has learned as President you have to be the President for ALL the people!

Really????

So when has Obama EVER looked out for the interests as the President of the wealthy, the successful, the business owners, and those in America who hold a different political view than his?

NEVER.

Once again Obama LIES!!!!

Trouble is -- HE believe his own lies and so do his gullable followers, Dems, and national news media lampoons.

Carville-Greenberg Poll Panics Dems: Romney Leads Big Among Independents

Inside Democrat poll shows Romney with a 15% advantage over Obama amoung Independents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsobm33AT...
Despite the collapse of communism, Obama believes they most control the masses.

That's quite entertaining, wislady. The best you can do is to come up with an electoral college map that shows your guy down by 47 and trailing in most of the toss-up states. Obama: 243 - Romney: 196 - Toss-up: 99

Tim Pawlenty, Romney's national co-chair, has resigned today to take another job. Perhaps the team is abandoning ship. (Smart people!)

Next thing you know, Paul Ryan will quit to become a professional Marathon runner.

Romney: The President for 53 percent of Americans! No way!

I agree with wislady on this one. It's closer than the polls show.

And perhaps Mittens can't say anything dumber than what he has said already. The cyborg thing though is going to be hard to shake.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...

Meanwhile, loser Cub's owner Ricketts dumps $12 million into Romney ads.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-r...

Obama up by 14 points in Wisconsin in latest Marquette poll. Still maintaining a 332-206 projected electoral college lead. The Romney campaign is being out-strategized at every turn. For the Republicans, this one is all over except for the crying -- and that seems to have started today judging from comments here.

Midnight_Ride,
At first, I thought you were talking about the Bush administration. Why don't you compare where we are now to where we were headed when Obama took office? The recovery may be slow to this point, but at least we're recovering. You speak of failed foreign policy, but as far as I can see, Osama Bin Laden is dead. It is true, it would not have been possible if we didn't go to war with Afghanistan in the first place. For that, we could give some credit to GW. However, GW never got Osama Bin Laden. Why? Because he was more focused on Saddam Hussein. What did that guy have to do with September 11th again? Oh, right, absolutely nothing. But he had WMDs, right? No, that turned out not to be true, and based on sketchy intelligence in the first place? Hmm, interesting. Well he did try to kill George H.W. Bush, right? I guess that's why we invaded an entire country. Junior was just mad at someone who tried to kill his father. So, he dragged this entire nation into a war because of a personal grudge.

So, what of the protests that have been erupting in the Middle East? You know why there is such outrage, don't you? It's because of the perception of the United States abroad. People think we are cocky. People think we feel like we are allowed to police the world, go where we want, and do what we want. We present a challenge. Why do people feel that way? Recently, because we invaded Iraq for no real reason.

Here is the kicker: protests are spreading like wildfire because of a film that an individual made. Not because of something our U.S. government did. Yet, you hold this against the Obama administration. If Obama had the video censored, there would be (and rightfully so) complaints about censorship of freedom of speech. But the Obama administration decries this video itself, and says it is very distasteful. Who embraces the video? Those same people who, "cling to their guns and religion." Those people will vote for Romney. I know that doesn't mean that Romney necessarily agrees with the video, but again, it sends a message to foreign countries. So, if you want to talk about failed or poor foreign policy, I think you ought to take a look at the Republican party. They are most definitely a root cause here. The ironic thing is, all the gun and religion clinging Republicans have to do is release more video etc disrespecting the Muslim religion, and people like you will continue to say it is Obama's failed foreign policy causing violent protests.

RAF,
There are racists everywhere. By and large, nearly everyone is racist, even if they won't readily admit it. But racist groups such as the KKK are loud and proud about being racist. Those are the people I am referring to. Oh, that and, white people are still the majority in this country. Even a white democrat who is racist will not vote for Obama. That's okay, though, if it helps you sleep at night, pretend a significant number of people you share political beliefs with are not racist.

http://www.caintv.com/DailyBriefingSuspe...

Suspension of work requirement has exploded food stamp dependence
.........Food Stamp chief - A free people not dependent of government are Obama's biggest fear.

And today's job numbers are not very encouraging....time for a new president.

http://www.businessinsider.com/income-in...

Income equality worse now than it was in 1774, even factoring in slavery.
I'm sure Mittens will help out with that.

Yo Brother, OBAMA TELLS DAVID LETTERMAN HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE NATIONAL DEBT IS.

Out of touch or just doesn't care about the 100% of us as he redesigns his new markist flag replacing are states stars with his O. ..Awesome..
That will play well with independents.

Yeah Romney seems a bit too square for me. I prefer a president that hangs out with Jay Z and smokes Kool cigarettes. Obama's keepin it real yo. Who wants to hear about all this unemployment and deficit jibberish. Every day in America is like living in MTV's real world.

Kathleen Sebelius violated the Hatch Act and should be fired
http://americaswatchtower.com/2012/09/12...

What happened to all the left wing on this site that was against Walker's staff? mmmmmm I guess fake outrage is better then real outrage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge3aGJfDS...

Say it ain't so Joe. Stop the presses, Obama is a markist.
NBC refuses to air and is a perfect example why the liberals on this site are so in the dark about the real world and real events and why Romney's real lead is 15% (according to White house leaked internal polling)
But you won't hear that on MSNBC or other protective statist media either.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/09/1...

Report: Median Income Worse Now Than It Was During Great Recession

It's real news the most liberals are sensoring out as they continue to protect Obama.

Oh look, the media is bias and instead of talking about the high unemployment, gas rates, the foreign policy fail, executive power grabs, 6million middle class to get hit hard under Obamacare, Selbius breaking the law, Holder's working with liberal news organization owned by George Soros and well as killing due to F&F.....let's talk about how Romney fired up the base with his tough talk on Libya and that he's finally got the attention of all of us with Obama's intentions of getting as many Americans dependent on Government as possible.
Applause applause to the attempts of the backwash, but sadly for them - Carvel internal leaked poll shows Obama really down by 15%.

As opposed to this?

"The Obama campaign revived the photo yesterday and tweeted as part of International Talk Like A Pirate Day, with the caption, "Arrr you in?"

http://www.businessinsider.com/drudge-re...

I can understand how some might think that a serious minded business person (who has been at the helm of many companies), might look foreign in comparison to someone who yuks it up on late night TV.

No need to make nasty comments again, I haven't.

thekai, there are plenty of racists that only vote for the democrat ticket as well.

To be fair, I don't think anyone should be counting out the TEA Party just yet.

I can see where wislady is coming from, in regards to Obama. However, I also see Barry as a real person. In fact, I bet he is a very enjoyable person to hang out with. He seems very down to Earth. Mitt, on the other hand, is not so down to Earth. It seems like an evening with Mitt, for any layman, would be very scripted.

This race is still too close for me to call. The TEA Party absolutely will not rest until Obama is out of office, and their energy helps to keep the Republican base motivated (even though I think, in general, the TEA Party is a very twisted group, especially the leadership). More and more, Romney seems to be losing the independent vote, though. If Romney keeps it up, he won't have a snowball's chance of winning. The TEA Party, racists, and people who always vote Republican, alone cannot win this for Romney.

the cyborg and the munster, kinda like that movie cowboys and alien.. another flop

maybe he should just stick to the talking points, like the mind numbing bore he is.... we cannot have any distractions!!!!.... stick to the game plan... lie, repeat, lie, repeat, lie, repeat...

"I believe that most people would rather earn their own keep, care for their families and enjoy the rewards of self-sufficiency.” This at least a true statement on Romneys part. The problem is that Republican and Romney/Ryan plan inhibits people to be able to do this. We all agree that education is key to getting out of poverty. Yet, The Romney/Ryan plan would make fewer students eligible for Pell money which is the only way some kids can afford college. Granted they don't plan to reduce the maximum amount granted via Pell grants which is currently at $5,500/yr. Lowering the amount of income a family can earn in order to qualify for a Pell grant will have the same effect, which is fewer middle and lower income students will be able to go to college. In addition their plan calls to reduce retraining funds by 33%.

I have no idea why someone would call Romney a cyborg. No one fits that description more than Obama, the empty suit of a man.
Romney has shown more compassion and generosity than Obama could ever think to show (unless it is a photo op).

Looks like Kathleen Parker is one of the many prominent conservatives going after Mitt Romney today. Bill Kristol of the Weekly Standard called Romney's comments "arrogant and stupid". Peggy Noonan of the Wall St Journal wrote, "It’s time to admit the Romney campaign is an incompetent one. It’s not big, it’s not brave, it’s not thoughtfully tackling great issues. It’s always been too small for the moment." Both senate candidate Linda McMahon of Connecticut and current Senator Scott Brown (currently running for reelection) of Massachusetts made it a point to release statements saying that Mitt Romney does not speak for them as Republicans. And these are just a few of the examples. This whole election thing really seems to be slipping away from Mitt Romney.

Interesting how the MSM makes such a fuss over this, but downplays all of Obama's and Biden's gaffes.

Comparing two individuals thousands of feet from public view on private property enjoying what they considered a private moment to a politician campaigning for President speaking at a fundraising event in a public area expecting secrecy is ludicrous. But then deflection has always been a key conservative strategy. Romney has an inability to understand whats behind the numbers. His 47% include lots of millionaires who also don't pay ANY income tax. They too are dependent on the government as evidenced by the amount they are spending to maintain that dependency.

Two things that seem to be overshadowed here... that the recording was made back in May...and his been hosted on Youtube for months now...second the actual act of the recording is a felony. Kind of sad when people are bent out of shape of hearing a private conversation of Romney to his financial supporters, but don't see an issue with someone clearly breaking the law. In fact more people think it was wrong (but not illegal) for the paparazzi to snap nuddie pics of prince williams wife while sunbathing.

wislady said, "Not everyone supports "redistribution" of wealth."

That's true, and we clearly know that Romney/Ryan not only support wealth redistribution, but they want to greatly EXPAND it. Their promises to EXPAND one of the greatest wealth redistribution scams ever devised by man -- spending of more than $700 billion per year on the U.S. military -- is ample evidence of that.

Kathleen sure nailed it, didn't she? "Unguarded, Romney is no compassionate conservative. At his core, he is … a cyborg. Dry-eyed and awkward, he was born lucky and seems to lack the empathy born of struggle."

"The question is whether the cyborg can see that the problems he’s solving actually involve people." I get the impression that Mitt Romney is so eager to sit in the Oval Office leather chair that he'll say just about anything to ensure it happens. He'll get that self-satisfied look on his face that we've all grown used to. And none of us can really say what kind of president he'll make because he's so hard to pin down on policy. He's shown himself capable of flipping and flopping back and forth his entire political career. And it has been a political career, even though he likes to give the American public the impression that he's just going to be president as a kind of charity act: "I don't NEED to do this public service stuff, I'm perfectly happy to be a wealthy private citizen with private offshore bank accounts and trust funds...blah blah blah." Depending on his audience he will concentrate on one of three areas: his time as a MA governor, his time with the SLC Olympic Committee, or his time at Bain Capital. It is up to voters to decide what kind of chief executive he will make. And most voters have already made up their minds at this point. I know I have.

Nice try wislady. The right wing fringe changes the subject when their candidate puts his foot in his mouth, though we all already know how the "elite" feel about the common man, don't we?

Not everyone supports "redistribution" of wealth.

Obama is so out of touch with reality, that he doesn't even think the debt is a problem. WHEN should we start to worry...after the election?

Obama On Debt: "We Don't Have To Worry About It Short Term"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...