Asking 2nd term, Obama says nation will recover
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President Barack Obama addresses the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, N.C., on Thursday, Sept. 6, 2012.
CHARLOTTE, NC — His re-election in doubt, President Barack Obama conceded only halting progress Thursday night toward fixing the nation’s stubborn economic woes but vowed in a Democratic National Convention finale, “Our problems can be solved, our challenges can be met.”
“Yes, our path is harder — but it leads to a better place,” he declared in a prime-time speech to convention delegates and the nation, blending resolve about rescuing the nation from near economic catastrophe with stinging criticism of Republican rival Mitt Romney’s own proposals.
Widely viewed as reserved, even aloof, Obama acknowledged “my own failings” as he asked for a second term, four years after taking office as the nation’s first black president.
Citing progress toward recovery, he said, “After a decade that was defined by what we bought and borrowed, we’re getting back to basics and doing what America has always done best: We’re making things again.”
“Four more years,” delegates chanted over and over as the 51-year-old Obama stepped to the podium, noticeably grayer than he was as a history-making candidate for the White House in 2008.
First Lady Michelle Obama and the couple’s daughters, Malia and Sasha, joined the president on stage in the moments after the speech, followed by other family members and Vice President Joe Biden and his wife. Strains of “Only in America” filled the hall as confetti filled the air.
Obama’s speech was the final act of a pair of highly scripted national political conventions in as many weeks, and the opening salvo of a two-month drive toward Election Day that pits Obama against Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts.
Not only economic proposals will settle a tight contest for the White House in a dreary season of economic struggle for millions, but also campaign cash.
There, Romney holds an advantage for sure. His campaign has purchased about $4.5 million in television advertising for the next several days, according to officials who track such spending. Obama, by contrast, emailed a fundraising appeal to supporters two hours before his convention speech.
Biden preceded Obama at the convention podium and proclaimed, “America has turned the corner” after experiencing the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.
Obama didn’t go that far in his own remarks, but he said firmly, “We are not going back, we are moving forward, America.”
With unemployment at 8.3 percent, the president said the task of recovering from the economic disaster of 2008 is exceeded in American history only by the challenge Franklin Delano Roosevelt faced when he took office in 1933.
“It will require common effort, shared responsibility and the kind of bold persistent experimentation” that FDR employed, Obama said.
In an appeal to independent voters who might be considering a vote for Romney, he added that those who carry on Roosevelt’s legacy “should remember that not every problem can be remedied with another government program or dictate from Washington.
He said, “The truth is, it will take more than a few years for us to solve challenges that have built up over the decades.”
The Romney campaign was dismissive as Democrats completed their convention.
“Americans will hold President Obama accountable for his record — they know they’re not better off and that it’s time to change direction,” Matt Rhoades, the challenger’s campaign manager, said in a statement.
In the run-up to Obama’s speech, delegates erupted in tumultuous cheers when former Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, grievously wounded in a 2011 assassination attempt, walked onstage to lead the Pledge of Allegiance. The hall grew louder when she blew kisses to the crowd.
And louder still when huge video screens inside the hall showed the face of Osama bin Laden, the terrorist mastermind killed in a daring raid on his Pakistani hideout by U.S. special operations forces â(euro) ” on a mission approved by the current commander in chief.
The hall was filled to capacity long before Obama stepped to the podium, and officials shut off the entrances because of a fear of overcrowding for a speech that the campaign had originally slated for the 74,000-seat football stadium nearby. Aides said weather concerns prompted the move to the convention arena, capacity 15,000 or so.
Obama’s campaign said the president would ask the country to rally around a “real achievable plan that will create jobs, expand opportunity and ensure an economy built to last.”
He added, “The truth is it will take more than a few years for us to solve challenges that have built up over a decade.”
In convention parlance, both Obama and Biden were delivering acceptance speeches before delegates who nominated them for new terms in office.
But the political significance went far beyond that — the moment when the general election campaign begins in earnest even though Obama and Romney have been pointing toward a Nov. 6 showdown for months.
To the cheers of delegates, Obama retraced his steps to halt the economic slide, including the auto bailout that Romney opposed.
“After a decade of decline, this country created over a half million manufacturing jobs in the last two and a half years,” he said.
Turning to national security, he said he had promised to end the war in Iraq, and had done so.
“We’ve blunted the Taliban’s momentum in Afghanistan, and in 2014 our longest war will be over,” he said.
“A new tower rises above the New York skyline, al-Qaida is on the path to defeat and Osama bin Laden is dead,” he declared, one of the night’s repeated references to the special operations forces raid that resulted in the terrorist mastermind’s demise more than a year ago.
He lampooned Romney’s own economic proposals.
“Have a surplus? Try a tax cut. Deficit too high? Try another. Feel a cold coming on? Take two tax cuts, roll back some regulations and call us in the morning,” he said.
Mocking Romney for his overseas trip earlier this summer, Obama said, “You might not be ready for diplomacy with Beijing if you can’t visit the Olympics without insulting our closest ally.” That was a reference to a verbal gaffe the former Massachusetts governor committed while visiting London.
The hall was filled to capacity long before Obama stepped to the podium, and officials shut off the entrances because of a fear of overcrowding for a speech that the campaign had originally slated for the 74,000-seat football stadium nearby. Aides said weather concerns prompted the move to the convention arena, capacity 15,000 or so.
Obama’s campaign said the president would ask the country to rally around a “real achievable plan that will create jobs, expand opportunity and ensure an economy built to last.”
Biden told the convention in his own speech that he had watched as Obama “made one gutsy decision after another” to stop an economic free-fall after they took office in 2009.
Now, he said, “we’re on a mission to move this nation forward â(euro) ” from doubt and downturn to promise and prosperity. ... America has turned the corner.”
Delegates who packed into their convention hall were serenaded by singer James Taylor and rocked by R&B blues artist Mary J. Blige as they awaited Obama’s speech.
There was no end to the jabs aimed at Romney and the Republicans.
“Ask Osama bin Laden if he’s better off than four years ago,” said Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, who lost the 2004 election in a close contest with President George W. Bush. It was a mocking answer to the Republicans’ repeated question of whether Americans are better off than when Obama took office.
The campaign focus was shifting quickly â(euro) ” to politically sensitive monthly unemployment figures due out Friday morning and the first presidential debate on Oct. 3 in Denver. Wall Street hit a four-year high a few hours before Obama’s speech after the European Central Bank laid out a concrete plan to support the region’s struggling countries.
The economy is by far the dominant issue in the campaign, and the differences between Obama and his challenger could hardly be more pronounced.
Romney wants to extend all tax cuts that are due to expire on Dec. 31 with an additional 20 percent reduction in rates across the board, arguing that job growth would result. He also favors deep cuts in domestic programs ranging from education to parks, repeal of the health care legislation that Obama pushed through Congress and landmark changes in Medicare, the program that provides health care to seniors.
Obama wants to renew the tax cuts except on incomes higher than $250,000, saying that millionaires should contribute to an overall attack on federal deficits. He also criticizes the spending cuts Romney advocates, saying they would fall unfairly on the poor, lower-income college students and others. He argues that Republicans would “end Medicare as we know it” and saddle seniors with ever-rising costs.
After two weeks of back-to-back conventions, the impact on the race remained to be determined.
You’re not going to see big bounces in this election,” said David Plouffe, a senior White House adviser. “For the next 61 days, it’s going to remain tight as a tick.”
Romney wrapped up several days of debate rehearsals with close aides in Vermont and is expected to resume full-time campaigning in the next day or two.
In a brief stop to talk with veterans on Thursday, he defended his decision to omit mention of the war in Afghanistan when he delivered his acceptance speech last week at the Republican National Convention. He noted he had spoken to the American Legion only one day before.
Romney’s campaign released its first new television ad since the convention season began.
It shows Clinton sharply questioning Obama’s credibility on the Iraq War in 2008, saying “Give me a break, this whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.” Obama was running against Hillary Rodham Clinton at the time for the Democratic nomination.
It will likely be a week or more before the two campaigns can fully digest post-convention polls and adjust their strategies for the fall.
Based on the volume of campaign appearances to date and the hundreds of millions of dollars spent already on television advertising, the election appears likely to be decided in a small number of battleground states. The list includes New Hampshire, Virginia, Ohio, Colorado, Nevada and Iowa, as well as Florida and North Carolina, the states where first Republicans and then Democrats held their conventions. Those states hold 100 electoral votes among them, out of 270 needed to win the White House.
Money has become an ever-present concern for the Democrats, an irony given the overwhelming advantage Obama held over John McCain in the 2008 campaign.
This time, Romney is outpacing him, and independent groups seeking the Republican’s election are pouring tens of millions of dollars into television advertising, far exceeding what Obama’s supporters can afford.
Associated Press writers Leo Buckle, Ben Feller, Ken Thomas, Matt Michaels and Jim Kuhnhenn in Charlotte, Calvin Woodward, Jennifer Agiesta, Jack Gillum and Josh Lederman in Washington, Kasie Hunt in Vermont and Thomas Beaumont and Steve Peoples in Iowa contributed to this report
Sep 21, 2012 at 8:39 p.m.
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Ezoner,
You know what COBRA benefits cost, right?
Sep 21, 2012 at 12:50 p.m.
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Nurse -- I understand your view but please note that there are allot of bad things that happen in this world -- Flood destroys all possesions, accident on road destroys car -- on and on. Should we expect to cover everything -- with little or no responsibility to the individual? Most companies offer cobra benefits when you are laid off. Did she chose to not seek insurance coverage between jobs and took a risk? Do people living near lakes and rivers take a risk and assume some responsibility? While I am happy she was cared for, what we need is to understand - we cannot be everything to everyone. I am certain after what she has gone through she will be able to relate to that and understand that.
Sep 18, 2012 at 4:55 p.m.
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Getalife-
Let me tell you a story.
A close family member was just diagnosed with breast cancer. She has worked all of her adult life, first as a secretary, then as a Registered Nurse. She is currently unemployed but owns a small bungalow home and a nice car. Well, when she found that lump in her breast, she did not have any health insurance. Medicaid would have approved her, but they would have put a lien on her house and car. Well, we know how expensive surgery and chemo for a year can be. No insurance would accept her, because it was considered a "pre-existing" condition. So, she was faced with the prospect of losing her hard earned home and car except for OBAMACARE. That's right everyone. Obamacare accepted her for about a fraction of the cost of the surgery. She had her surgery and now is in the process of doing chemo without the stress of losing her home & car. So yeah, you know I am voting for OBAMA. Hopefully, the Electoral College will too!
Sep 18, 2012 at 4:46 p.m.
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Dear B_Prince:
The President of the USA is Commander in Chief of all of our military armed forces.
I don't like bridges. :) but thank you.
Sep 17, 2012 at 2:44 p.m.
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Here's what you can look forward to in the case of either Obama or Romney winning: District attorney's selling the use of their letterheads to debt collectors and splitting the profits, even when the debts are bad or incorrect. Thank you corporation/government, sold to the highest bidder.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/16/busine...
Sep 15, 2012 at 2:40 p.m.
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Obama is a terrorist, Nurse4u! He doesn't care about securing our border. He wants to let these undocumented criminal illegal mexicans be here. Obama has increased my cost of everything from gas to my health insurance and it's only going to get worse if this terrorist president gets re-elected. It's people like YOU that are destroying this country by voting for liberal cowards like Obama.
Sep 15, 2012 at 1:28 p.m.
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Obama killed Osama, so he has my vote. Remember 9/11/2001!
Sep 15, 2012 at 7:21 a.m.
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I'm sure we'll see another record turn out of black voters with a black presidency at stake.
Sep 12, 2012 at 11:25 p.m.
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More hate filled rants from the left fringe, "you really should consider seeing a counselor who may be able to get you past your obsession with death, dying, killing people, bodies of Americans, and your general hatred of fellow citizens. I think a course in logic would also be of benefit to you. That would certainly make your posts a little more sensible and credible."
Sep 12, 2012 at 10:02 p.m.
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"Today, I wonder if Mitt Romney drones on about not apologizing for America because he, like the former version of me, simply isn’t aware of the U.S. ever doing anything that might demand an apology. Then again, no one wants to feel like a bad person, and there’s no need to apologize if you are oblivious to the harms done in your name — calling the occasional ones you notice collateral damage (“stuff happens”) — or if you believe that American force is always applied righteously in a world that is justly divided into winners and losers." [ http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175590/t... ]
Sep 12, 2012 at 9:57 p.m.
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Baratheon_Prince aka Robot_Lord_of_Tokyo aka DeGryse aka Mudsill aka Boblinkus, your conjecture about my feelings for this country is, well, save your energy for your next big office order or bird banding project.
If you would like to go back to the Occupy Wall Street conversations, where you disrespected American veterans and I defended them, just let me know. You seem ready to accuse just about any person of not being patriotic, including veterans, simply because they don't agree with your world view.
Sep 12, 2012 at 7:53 p.m.
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Bowlgal, you forgot the Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen wars. If you can call Libya a disaster of liberal policy, we can certainly call these wars disasters of conservative foreign policy left for Obama to clean up.
"Putting together the conservative numbers of war dead, in uniform and out, brings the total to 286,006. A more realistic minimal estimate is 298,000." [ http://costsofwar.org/ ]
Sep 12, 2012 at 6:30 p.m.
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brotherkoch mouse yada wiggle who ever you are this hour. Due to the complete lack of leadership and the diaster Obama created in the middle east. We'll start your left wing crap foreign policy body count at 4.
Occupy middle east, coordinated 911 US attack and Obama isn't even leader enough to take questions this morning.
Sep 12, 2012 at 4:38 p.m.
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That Wiki article fully cites the sources for the information contained within and you're free to follow those sources if you wish. Any lack of willingness to dig any further into the citations provided by Wiki and learn the truth about America supporting "terrorists" is your problem, not mine.
A rogue state? Is that kind of like the axis of evil? The evil empire? It's another term that comes in handy for American politicians and media. Rogue state or not, America has supported "terrorists." And you yourself warned of, "terrorist supporting countries" "ramping up their arsenal of deadly weaponry." You're warning people about America.
Want a look at America making deals to provide Saddam Hussein with weapons and other resources? [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Stat... ] You'll probably particularly enjoy the video of Rumsfeld proudly shaking hands with Saddam Hussein -- with a smile on his face.
Sep 12, 2012 at 4 p.m.
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>>"We begin disarmament?" Where have you been?<<
Waiting for Poobah's omniscient 9-page screed following his Wiki search. Nothing prior to 1899 at Wiki? I'm sure you could cite an earlier Conference that discussed reduction in Horse population as it was primary delivery system of battlefield cannons. You obviously have considerable time on your hands.
Look, the threat posed by WMD development by rogue states is significant. Dealing with it prior to deployment is far better than the alternative IMO. Then again, I suspect you view the U.S. as a rogue state, so I await another lecture with Wiki Links.
Sep 12, 2012 at 2:52 p.m.
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petepuma said, "Brilliant strategy. We begin disarmament just as terrorist supporting countries begin ramping up their arsenal of deadly weaponry."
Well, again, that's precisely why I support the immediate reduction in U.S. military spending -- so we quit ramping up our arsenal of deadly weaponry that we then provide to support "terrorists." For instance, our providing the very "terrorists" in Afghanistan that we are now fighting with weapons; with our providing the "terrorist" Saddam Hussein weapons before deciding he had to go. The United States is one of those countries you mentioned with a history of supporting "terrorists" and we need to stop it.
"We begin disarmament?" Where have you been?
1899: Hague Conferences
1932-34: World Disarmament Conference
1960: Ten Nation Disarmament Committee
1962-1968: Eighteen Nation Disarmament Committee
1969-1978: Conference of the Committee on Disarmament
1979–present: Conference on Disarmament [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disarmament... ]
Despite all of those disarmament conferences and resulting treaties, it is estimated that America has 8,000 nuclear weapons stockpiled, Russia has 10,000, China has 240, the UK has 225, Pakistan has 90-110, India has 80-100, Israel has 60-80 and North Korea fewer than 10. [ http://www.ploughshares.org/world-nuclea... ] Do you have any idea how many times over we could destroy Earth with 8,000 nuclear weapons? Do you seriously think that building more nuclear weapons is the answer? America is spending $711 billion per year on the military, China $143 billion per year and Russia $72 billion per year. We could reduce our military spending by $496 billion per year and still be spending as much as China and Russia COMBINED.
Sep 12, 2012 at 1:39 p.m.
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Bowlgal, you going to start keeping score with body counts? Not very patriotic.
Sep 12, 2012 at 1:06 p.m.
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President Obama has become a liability to the financial security and this nation’s safety. He has not at any time displayed leadership or bi-partisanship. He has cost us years and years of rebuilding our exceptional country. He was born that way. He was raised that way. He doesn’t share any values of most Americans and come November, like the elections of rejection of 2010, we shall see that reflected in his dismissal.
Sep 12, 2012 at 12:43 p.m.
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>>That's precisely why I so actively support an immediate and significant reduction in U.S. military spending.<<
Brilliant strategy. We begin disarmament just as terrorist supporting countries begin ramping up their arsenal of deadly weaponry. Our greatest military minds......Eisenhower, Patton, and Poobah.
Sep 12, 2012 at 12:43 p.m.
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onedayatatime- I think you're commenting on the wrong story.
Sep 12, 2012 at 12:42 p.m.
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hatred and anger have been proven to be toxic to the human body
Sep 12, 2012 at 12:39 p.m.
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Bottom line is it doesn't matter one bit how "right" one embezzler is over another, they both will ruin you in the end.
Sep 12, 2012 at 12:35 p.m.
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Gandalf- Oh come on, EVERYONE is "right" on SOMETHING, you can understand that, right?
Ever heard that a stopped clock is right twice a day?
Sep 12, 2012 at 12:18 p.m.
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Yes, think if George W. Bush or Romney were president. In another six months they'd have "convincing" intelligence that Libya has WMD's and start a trillion dollar war with Libya. After killing some "terrorists," losing thousands of our soldiers and maiming tens of thousands more for life and killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians, they could land a fighter jet on an aircraft carrier and proclaim, "Mission Accomplished!" And then let the next president clean up their mess and end the war.
And if you actually saw the photos and read the first-hand accounts of what happened, you would clearly know that there were Libyan civilians, yes most likely Muslims, that did what they could to help the Americans at great personal risk.
After reading your comments, the words to an Alan Parsons Project song keep flowing through my head:
If I had a mind to
I wouldn't wanna think like you
And if I had time to
I wouldn't wanna talk to you
I don't care what you do
I wouldn't want to be like you
Sep 12, 2012 at 11:57 a.m.
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The only Presidential person talking this morning was Romney. But forget about the 4 dead and the muslim attacks and Obama's failures, the media is focused on Romney now and blaming him for making a statement. They may as well put Obama in a glass house at this point. It's beyond sickening, and we aren't buying it. His incompetence is crystal clear
Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 a.m.
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Yes mouse I do.
Lybia dragging body of dead Ambassador in the streets and Clinton telling the public they were taking him to the hospital. This administration is too stupid to do anything right or they are just hoping you are too stupid to know any better. Oh well, Obama is off to Vegas now.
Sep 12, 2012 at 11:31 a.m.
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thatwaseasy - aptly named. Patriotism IS easy. And you weren't hard to win over. Good vs. Evil. etc etc. Tri-cornered hats and flag pin on the lapel. You know the drill.
Sep 12, 2012 at 11:14 a.m.
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I'm very happy that most of America does not agree with the leftist on this site. Walker's win is an example that you are on the wrong side of history.
Patriot and so very proud of it.
What are you brotherkoch mouse?
Sep 12, 2012 at 11:09 a.m.
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petepuma said, "Being proactive about development of WMD by lunatics is imperative to AVOID Armageddon."
That's precisely why I so actively support an immediate and significant reduction in U.S. military spending.
Sep 12, 2012 at 10:58 a.m.
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>>But then that's that's the point, isn't it. You can't get to Armageddon without the hot barrel of a gun, right Christians Warriors?<<
Sure you can. You can live in denial and wait for the mushroom cloud. Then what do you do hot shot, whip out your six shooter? Being proactive about development of WMD by lunatics is imperative to AVOID Armageddon. It requires conviction, actionable intelligence, and testicles.
Sep 12, 2012 at 10:50 a.m.
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Obama is "right" on this, the other one is "right" on that...bla bla bla.....Hitler was "right" on some things too...MEANINGLESS.
Sep 12, 2012 at 10:39 a.m.
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I think Obama is right on Israel and Netenyahu. Religion is the source of almost all death and destruction and until hardline Jews soften their "all Islam is a cancer" stance, and hardline Muslims soften their "Israel needs to wiped off the map" stance, no good will ever come.
But then that's that's the point, isn't it. You can't get to Armageddon without the hot barrel of a gun, right Christians Warriors?
Sep 12, 2012 at 10:33 a.m.
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And those stupid people (mostly liberals and socialists) that say that spending so much taxpayer money on defense hurts the US economy.
I don't care that US spends a budget- busting double the money on military than the Soviets and China combined! In the words of Dick Cheney, our GOP idol - "deficits don't matter"...oh wait - we've changed that tune for this election run. Me forgets.
so...Horse puckey about defense spending crippling our economy in global competition. That defense spending goes to govt-subsidized monopolies owned by the uber-wealthy. And we patriots know that that when you put more money in our Job Creator hands, that it gets trickled down upon ye.
Sep 12, 2012 at 10:23 a.m.
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Midnight Ride - Mitten has us patriots focusing on big tangible foes like communists and the Soviets.
Us Patriots were never that good at understanding terrorist groups, anyway. Are they countries? Are they all people of a certain religion? It's too dern confusing for us Red White and Blue thinkers.
GWB tried to give us some bad nations to unify our Patriotism against - THE AXIS OF EVIL. And the Iraq War. But that only took us so far, and he never found Bin Laden.
So Mittens is right to scrap that bizness alltogether and give us a FOE we can rally against. It's time to back to fighting Communism 1950s-style.
Sep 12, 2012 at 10:09 a.m.
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Obama's decision to reject Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel at the DNC and now reject a meeting with the PM is reproachable. To boo God and now condemn the American for free speech and not the muslim terrorist in Libya and Egypt on the day we remember the 911 victims is beyond acceptable.
Obama is an Ametuer not only with the economy but with foreign policy. He has proven time and time again he is in over is head. 100 days in the US Senate was all he brought us to the table and it shows.
Sep 12, 2012 at 10:08 a.m.
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Bring on the debates. Brotherskoch needs a lesson in the truth.
Sep 12, 2012 at 10:07 a.m.
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Just look at the FORECLOSURES.........A lot of the banks just LOOKED to grab someone's house at the first opportunity......NO politician looked at the fact this was going to crash the housing market and with it everything else.
And NAFTA......just wow.
Sep 12, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.
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Eagle1- I think a lot of people may have started to figure it out until they get snowed by hype and "conventions", etc........
Sep 12, 2012 at 9:45 a.m.
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truth1 I am glad to see i am not the only one that sees the truth behind the flawed 2 party system and the fools that blindly follow it.
Sep 12, 2012 at 9:23 a.m.
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Republicans and Democrats...........Until we can get rid of them, regular people may as well give up hope...SORRY but thats the truth.
Democrats will lie and say they aren't complicit in letting the banksters embezzle the country's wealth just like the Republicans do, but they are.....MAJOR EMBEZZLEMENT.
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People are working their lives away and losing everything while banksters et. al. make billions shuffling paper.
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Ron Paul would have, could have, at least been a change from the last 50 years but unfortunately we have a nation of cowards and idiots.
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Have fun "voting"......LOLOL!!!
Sep 12, 2012 at 9:06 a.m.
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Way to go Mittens. Your identifying the Soviets ..er Russia - as our TOP FOE gave Putin an ego boost. Maybe we can make it 1950s all over again! Bring back the lists of commies and enemies of the US. (or wait...the CRG fliers already have.)
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wire...
"I'm grateful to him for formulating his stance so clearly, because he has once again proven the correctness of our approach to missile defense problems," Putin said of Romney. "
Sep 12, 2012 at 8:58 a.m.
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And surely you Patriots are excited that Mittens aims to revive our rivalry with the Soviet Union...or whatever those commies call themselves now.
Russians and socialists and commies Oh My. Us patriots are tired of only fighting against ill-defined enemies like terrorists and teenage suicide bombers....give us an enemy we can actually SEE. On a MAP! And we'll blow it to smithereens!
Or at least spend trillions trying. And we all know who that money goes to ha ha Ah yes---
Bringing back the good ole' days of arms wars, the USSR, commies and the military industrial complex. And the best way to pay for it all is more tax cuts for the wealthy. Beautiful.
Sep 12, 2012 at 8:49 a.m.
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"This item claiming that President Barack Obama is the only U.S. President who has "failed to go to the D-Day Monument" on the anniversary of that event is a bit ambiguous, but by any reasonable interpretation it's far from accurate.
If the term "D-Day Monument" references any of the various monuments, memorials, or cemeteries around the sites of the 6 June 1944 Allied landings on the Normandy coast of France, then such visits by U.S. presidents in commemoration of D-Day have been neither a long-established nor a regular occurrence — those visits are a fairly recent phenomenon, and no president has made more than one.
The first president to travel to Normandy for D-Day was Ronald Reagan, who in 1984 attended commemorative ceremonies there for the 40th anniversary of the Allied landings. Bill Clinton attended D-Day memorial ceremonies in Normandy on the 50th anniversary of the landings in 1994, George W. Bush did so on the 60th anniversary of the landings in 2004, and Barack Obama did likewise on the 65th anniversary of the landings in 2009. (George W. Bush also delivered a commemorative address in Normandy in 2002, but that event was held in conjunction with Memorial Day, not the anniversary of the D-Day landings.)
If the term "D-Day Monument" references the National D-Day Memorial in Bedford, Virginia, U.S. presidents have no established tradition of regularly visiting that site, which didn't even open until 2001. President George W. Bush was on hand for the dedication of the memorial on 6 June 2001, but the site has not seen a presidential D-Day visit since then.
If the term "D-Day Monument" refers to the National World War II Memorial, in Washington, D.C., that site didn't open until 2004 and has never hosted a presidential visit on D-Day.
In fact, any public presidential activity paying tribute to fallen soldiers on the anniversary of D-Day has been an exception rather than the rule in recent years. Available White House presidential schedules for 6 June going back to the beginning of the Bush administration in 2001 list no public events connected to D-Day in 2012, 2011, 2010, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2003, or 2002." [ http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/dda... ]
Sep 12, 2012 at 8:46 a.m.
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Lol - MidnightRide reading the wingnut blogs like a good Patriot.
Now watch out for those socialist lefties-they will remind us of how Romney didn't make one mention of the troops during his acceptance speech.
Sep 12, 2012 at 8:23 a.m.
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In all the years since D-Day, there are three occasions when the president failed to go
to the D-Day Monument that honors the soldiers killed during the Invasion —
The occasions were:
1. Barack Obama 2010
2. Barack Obama 2011
3. Barack Obama 2012
Veterans did not enlist to fight for socialism.
Yet the apologies for American freedoms such as speech continues to Muslim terrorists on the day we remember victims.
Sep 12, 2012 at 8:15 a.m.
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Oh now Poohbah, Patriots are a very diverse group. And many like to play Dungeons and Dragons.
Do not fault him for confusing his D&D role playing games with reality. He means well.
Sep 12, 2012 at 7:58 a.m.
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He'll disappear soon for weeks only to resurface as Robot_Lord_Of_Tokyo, DeGryse, Bobolinkus, Mudsill or any of his other usernames that haven't been deleted or a new one. Here's a comment he made on February 14 at 7:41p.m. as DeGryse acknowledging some of his many usernames:
""DiGriz, aka Robot_Lord_of Tokyo, aka Mudsill" -I gave all three of those to you. Handed, actually. You still have no clue. There are now more than ten." [ http://gazettextra.com/r/75/40646/ ]
Sep 12, 2012 at 7:01 a.m.
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Muslims Attack US Embassy, Burn American Flag on 9/11, While Team Obama Apologizes?
This dud is a disgrace.
The nation will recover once he is ousted.
Sep 12, 2012 at 3:12 a.m.
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Wnen the Patriots get plenty of Vitamin O, they do well winning the internets.
Sep 11, 2012 at 11:33 p.m.
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Good night.
Sep 11, 2012 at 11:31 p.m.
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Happens all over the world, we can cry about it, but, doing illegal things makes us as bad as them. Should we invade every country where it has happened? Callous would mean I don`t care, and you don`t know me enough to say that.
Sep 11, 2012 at 11:26 p.m.
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"so what???"
Unreasonable.
Sep 11, 2012 at 11:09 p.m.
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From Wikipedia, the free enc
Iraqi No-Fly Zones
Iraq NO FLY ZONES.PNG
No-fly zone detail
Date 1991-2003
Location Northern Iraq, Southern Iraq
Result Coalition victory
Belligerents
United States United States
United Kingdom United Kingdom
France France
Australia Australia
Belgium Belgium
Netherlands Netherlands
Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia
Turkey Turkey
Italy Italy
Iraq Iraq
Commanders and leaders
United States John Shalikashvili
United States T. Michael Moseley
Iraq Saddam Hussein
Strength
6,000, Around 50 aircraft and 1,400 personnel at any one time Various Iraqi air defense forces
Casualties and losses
2 UH-60 Blackhawk helicopters shot down (friendly fire, 26 killed)
19 USAF servicemen deployed as part of the operation were killed in the Khobar Towers Bombing
1 RQ-1 Predator unmanned aircraft shot down Unknown Many air defense systems Destroyed
1 MiG-25 Foxbat shot down
1 MiG-23 Flogger Shot down
2 Su-22 Fitters shot down
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The Iraqi no-fly zones were a set of two separate no-fly zones (NFZs), and were proclaimed by the United States, United Kingdom and France after the Gulf War of 1991 to protect the Kurds in northern Iraq and Shiite Muslims in the south. Iraqi aircraft were forbidden from flying inside the zones. The policy was enforced by U.S., UK, and French aircraft patrols until France withdrew in 1998. While the enforcing powers had cited United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 as authorizing the operations, the resolution contains no explicit authorization. The Secretary-General of the UN at the time the resolution was passed, Boutros Boutros-Ghali called the no-fly zones "illegal" in a later interview with John Pilger
Sep 11, 2012 at 11:01 p.m.
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Name calling again, a bad habit. You look it up, you will not find "no-fly zones" in the cease-fire agreement. They were unilaterally set up by the US, Britain, and France, and not authorized.
Sep 11, 2012 at 10:34 p.m.
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My taxes paid, and continue to pay, for the wars.
Show me in the cease-fire signed by Iraq, and the allies, where "no-fly zones" are made legal. They were shooting at foreign planes flying over their country.
Sep 11, 2012 at 10:15 p.m.
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"The responsibility lies not so much with the White House but with Congress, which has thwarted President Barack Obama's plans to close the detention center, which the Bush administration opened on January 11, 2002 with 20 captives.
Congress has used its spending oversight authority both to forbid the White House from financing trials of Guantánamo captives on U.S. soil and to block the acquisition of a state prison in Illinois to hold captives currently held in Cuba who would not be put on trial - a sort of Guantánamo North. The current defense bill now before Congress not only reinforces these restrictions but moves to mandate military detention for most future al Qaeda cases unless the president signs a waiver."
Name another president who cut taxes while we were engaged in two wars.
American citizens have been prosecuted for torture(waterboarding) for over 100 years. Not to mention suffocating an Iraqi General in a sleeping bag.
What did Iraq have to do with 9-11?
Sep 11, 2012 at 10:04 p.m.
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Callous and ignorant only in your mind, obviously.
Sep 11, 2012 at 9:52 p.m.
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Name calling is the last resort of an unreasonable person. Just because someone has a different viewpoint does not make yours right.
Sep 11, 2012 at 9:12 p.m.
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"Any president having to deal with what happened 11 years ago today," would not have continued to cut taxes, invade a country that had nothing to do with it, and O.K. torture. Obama should have pressed harder to close Guantanamo, maybe the prisoner(one of nine, so far) that just died there would be alive.
Sep 11, 2012 at 8:56 p.m.
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Baratheon_Prince said, "It's amazing how some people will toot their own horn."
What's amazing is how some people can only attempt to tarnish the horns of people they disagree with by using comments like, "get yourselves out of your trailers." Your response failed to address my educational background, success in business and early retirement that was made only in direct response to your comment about getting "yourselves out of your trailers." I know that failure was not an oversight, but of necessity.
Sep 11, 2012 at 8:49 p.m.
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http://factcheck.org/2012/08/romneys-imp...
False dreams.
Sep 11, 2012 at 8:30 p.m.
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baratheon==== AMEN!!!!!!!
Sep 11, 2012 at 7:53 p.m.
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Baratheon_Prince said, "Isn't that right, Poobah and others? I'd bet you'd sing a different tune if you won the lottery, or had a good day at Ho-chunk, if you could get yourselves out of your trailers."
I see the "critical thinking" proposition of Kleej was very short-lived in the conservative circles, wasn't it? Baratheon_Prince has brought the argumentative hyperbole down even further to the "trash talk" level we expect in an athletic competition. Having only signed up for the GazetteXtra a couple months ago, you're not familiar with my history, Baratheon_Prince. I received a Masters degree in Electrical Engineering (graduating without a dime in loans, having worked my way through college), worked several years for a Fortune 100 company, then quit to start my own companies. I started and managed three companies, having sold two of them in the 90's at which time I retired in my mid-40's. And yes, Obama was right, many, many other people helped me grow those businesses. I'm not sure how a person like yourself mistakes hard work, education and business success for jealousy, but you just did.
And if you think the lottery or gambling is the way to riches, well, take my word for it. The best way is getting an education, working smart, possessing an entrepreneurial spirit and being willing to assume risks that others aren't.
Sep 11, 2012 at 3:10 p.m.
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It's time to take the garbage to the curb.....Obama needs to go. Let the restoration begin!
Sep 11, 2012 at 1:44 p.m.
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Political pandering? Here? In the good ole USA? Never.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/...
Sep 11, 2012 at 1:42 p.m.
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Kleej said, "And, do yourself a favor, never argue with the clueless, it's a waste of valuable time......."
Glad to see your acknowledgement that your comment was an argument.
Sep 11, 2012 at 12:59 p.m.
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Gazette- you're welcome! And, do yourself a favor, never argue with the clueless, it's a waste of valuable time.......
Sep 11, 2012 at 12:52 p.m.
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Thank you Kleej!!! That's exactly what's happening. Nice critical thinking!
Sep 11, 2012 at 12:47 p.m.
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Kleej said, "THERE'S YOUR CRITICAL THINKING FOLKS...argue it all you like, it doesn't change the fact that it's the truth. End of story."
Your entire comment is an argument; it doesn't come close to meeting the definition of critical thinking. Additionally, an important component of critical thinking is to keep an open mind to alternative viewpoints and to new perspectives that may arise. Assuming the argumentative position of "End of story," is not compatible with critical thinking.
Sep 11, 2012 at 10:28 a.m.
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For all of you "lefties" and "righties" who have fallen into the two party facade that the two parties have trained you to do along with their best friend the "media"...this is the bottom line; The politicians (of both the left and right persuasion) promise handouts to enough groups until they have enough votes for re-election, thereby continuing the middle class squeeze. First, the “idle rich” bilk the middle class with monopoly positions protected by government politicians elected (bought) by the wealthy elite’s money. Second, the “idle poor” squeeze the middle, receiving hand outs courtesy of the government taxes taken from the middle class. Both idle classes receive benefits without effort. The rich gain through monopolies and the poor through handouts, both thanks to our government’s monopoly of force. In the meantime, the middle class runs faster and faster on the gerbil wheel never seeming to get ahead.
THERE'S YOUR CRITICAL THINKING FOLKS...argue it all you like, it doesn't change the fact that it's the truth. End of story.
Sep 11, 2012 at 4:45 a.m.
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You missed the point, gazettefun. Why would a person like yourself that stated, "Polls are for fools," be reading and participating on a page that is a poll unless, of course, they are a fool?
Sep 11, 2012 at 3:58 a.m.
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Poobah, you happened to make a good point in that particular post. Time to get off the ego trip now.
Sep 10, 2012 at 10:57 p.m.
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gazettefun said, "Polls are for fools."
Boy, now that's kind of funny you'd say that. After all, the comment where you complimented me for my thinking was on a GazetteXtra poll: "Polls: If the Green Bay Packers go through with a rumored stock sale, would you pay $200 per share to take part?" [ http://gazettextra.com/polls/2011/oct/pa... ]
Sep 10, 2012 at 10:38 p.m.
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Poobah, evidently the libs and cnn have fogged your thinking as of late. And, polls are for fools.
Sep 10, 2012 at 10:35 p.m.
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gazettefun, last October 15, 2011 you said, "poobah, too bad more people didn't think like you!"
Well, I haven't changed the way I think, and while Gandalf and I are surely not lockstep in our thinking, we share many of the same views on political issues. So I wonder, gazettefun, what's really bothering you? Maybe it's the latest polling data from Gallup and Rasmussen?
Gallup: Obama up 49%-44% [ http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx... ]
Rasmussen: Obama up 50%-45%. [ http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c... ]
Sep 10, 2012 at 10:03 p.m.
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Gandulf- that's what you liberals do best. Spew your mindless redirect around and when anyone disagees with you, you make it personal. Here's a tip for you, GET OVER YOURSELF.
Sep 10, 2012 at 7:34 p.m.
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Poobah & Gandalf are on their high horse aren't they? Did the Democratic Convention get ya all cocky n fired up?
Sep 10, 2012 at 7:14 p.m.
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After hearing Bill Clinton's speech, about the Republicans, Todd Akin said yep, that's legitimate.
Sep 10, 2012 at 7 p.m.
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It is an amusing election. The Muslim socialist from Kenya against the son of a Mexican with suspicious financials who belongs to a weird polygamy cult.
Sep 10, 2012 at 3:50 p.m.
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Very well said, Gandalf. I hope Kleej's follow-up to my comment isn't what he considers to be an example of what he called the "critical thinking needed to see what's really happening."
Sep 10, 2012 at 3:48 p.m.
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Ah yes, kleej is pretending to be the centrist crying out as a voice of reason from the Wilderness of Extremists -Thankfully you play right into the hands of the Patriot extremists...
Yeah, us GOP like those that feign to balance opinions and "meet in the middle" - that's why we just keep pushing our screamin-mimi patriotism further to the right.
When it comes to compromise, we GOP arrive at the arbitration table with:
-zero tax rates on investment income
-ban the dept of Ed and EPA
-the grand magic of vouchers to fix education and health care inefficiencies
-global climate change denial
-No abortion even in rape/incest, and a wary eye cast upon birth control
-endless increased defense spending
-legalized assault rifles
-and all sorts of goodies - check with Grover Norquist if you need info.
Sure it's a low ball offer, but we are willing to negotiate with common-sense centrists. But not much. Ha ha beautiful
Hey, yes there are extremists on the Left - but they lack one thing that we have - financial backing (you are welcome patriots) and lockstep unity. And don't forget the Man up above. We pay to make sure He's on our side too.
Ha ha - I cut and paste this from a prior comment of my own. Almost as good as RAF with doing that. At least I had the decency to wait a few days.
Sep 10, 2012 at 3:06 p.m.
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poobah, I've seen your posts and you more than likely don't have the humility to handle the truth. Again, when you're constantly concerned about being right all the time, the truth will elude you.
Sep 10, 2012 at 1:50 p.m.
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Romney keeping tax returns secret is NOT because of the low tax rate we've won for rich people. He is proud of that miniscule rate, and lets us trickle more on lower classes.
If you read between the lines of this article http://news.yahoo.com/romney-tithing-mak...
Mittens says it's because of tithing. Perhaps he's not tithing at the rate the Latter Day Saints want. And then if they find out he's damned to heck or something....
...Something to think about.
Sep 10, 2012 at 1:42 p.m.
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Kleej, Patriots are not going to be encumbered by a critical thought process. That's for liberals.
Sep 10, 2012 at 1:23 p.m.
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Kleej said, "...it's our own humility and pride that's keeping us from the critical thinking needed to see what's really happening."
Please do tell what's "really happening" and elucidate the depth of your critical thinking.
Sep 10, 2012 at 12:55 p.m.
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Those that have the issue with Romney and his tax returns, I ask you, what about the paper trail that Obama somehow cleaned up behind him over the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac travesty? He's personally raked in millions from it, yet, there's no accountabilty, no repercussion or even a hint of investigation into that. Again, a society of people who are so fixed on being right all the time that we miss out on what's actually true. Too much mud flying in the air to see through to what's going on. Bottom line, the battle here isn't between Obama and Romney; it's our own humility and pride that's keeping us from the critical thinking needed to see what's really happening.
Sep 10, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.
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whz_bng said, "Actually the Caymans are a lovely place for a few coins. Show me where Mitt cheated or did not pay taxes on the money he has offshore."
RetiredAirForce said, "LOL, still crying over tax returns? Is that the best you can do whine over something that is not required that you want to see?"
When conservatives start attacking each other you know the Romney/Ryan campaign is in trouble.
Sep 10, 2012 at 10:32 a.m.
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Eagle1, good point you bring up about the election being a "scam". I think the better word would be a "facade". The "left" has gone so far overboard with their relentless efforts to fundamentally re-shape this country and Obama's continuous mis-use of power that they've managed to make the "right" look way better than they deserve to be. It's called POLITICS and you're right, we've become a culture of uneducated voters trained to vote for the party/candidate that can charm the pants of them by spewing empty promises and giving false hope to a nation that needs hope more now than ever. Politicians are NOT leaders, they're manipulators.
Sep 10, 2012 at 9:29 a.m.
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LOL, still crying over tax returns? Is that the best you can do whine over something that is not required that you want to see? For all the claims his daddy did it too, those silly remarks fall flat when you identify things other dems daddy's did as well; like Gore's dad voting against the civil rights bill. Do you really want all traditions kept or just ones that suit your purpose?
If you want all people running for office to post publicly X number of years tax returns make it a law....until then you are just being an echo shill machine for the dem party as they try to change the subject from the failed policies of the past 4 years and the millions of people out of work and on welfare.
Sep 10, 2012 at 9:16 a.m.
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"Show me where Mitt cheated or did not pay taxes on the money he has offshore."
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I say, show me(and america) where he DID pay his taxes. Where is his returns??? Where is his money??? hide hide hide
Sep 10, 2012 at 7:43 a.m.
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Can someone please explain to me why anyone would be in support of either of these tickets? Obama has proven he is a bust and Romney's record isn't much different than the path Obama has presented, he has become just a continuation of Bush and despite what Clinton says nothing like his presidency. Any influence Ryan would bring isn't any better than Obama, look at the budgets each presented, both have large deficits only 100 billion dollars apart. There are no fiscal conservatives in this race at all, which means we will continue to add to the debt and present more spending as a way to fool enough people into thinking that works so that one of these clowns can be elected. Are there really that many non thinking americans that can't see through this scam that has been presented?
Sep 10, 2012 at 6:39 a.m.
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Carter #2 - Labor Force Participation Rate Falls To Lowest Level In 31 Years.
http://www.businessinsider.com/labor-for...
Sep 9, 2012 at 9:59 p.m.
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The name Obama and the word recovery shouldn't even be allowed in the same sentence. He's a parasite.
Sep 9, 2012 at 9:49 p.m.
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@Libertyissacred; that quote you posted by Theodore Roosevelt describes Obama perfectly. The man has violated his authority over and over again. He's a malcontent who has evaded the constitution of America when he should be doing his job in preserving it. As Alan Keyes put it best, our current president is an "Abomination".
Sep 9, 2012 at 9:40 p.m.
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poobah, and that would be a fatal blow to the future of this country as well.
Sep 9, 2012 at 9:02 p.m.
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That goes for earning FIRST TERMS also, LibertyIsSacred. And that's just one reason that Romney/Ryan will not be elected.
Sep 9, 2012 at 8:48 p.m.
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Whatever happened to EARNING things like second terms? What's happened to character based leadership in this country?? Here's what the people of this country have been reduced to in the words of Theodore Roosevelt-----------
"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people."
Sep 9, 2012 at 8:28 p.m.
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"prince", thank you for making it CLEAR the Republican opinion of middle-class WORKER Americans.
Sep 9, 2012 at 4:17 p.m.
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The stimilus package did not fail. Bill Clinton "In 2010, as the president's recovery program kicked in, the job losses stopped and things began to turn around. The Recovery Act saved or created millions of jobs and cut taxes for 95 percent of the American people." Rated true by poltifact.
Honorfirst...your screen name is oppositional to your statements. "just hope the people will not fall for his lies and BS again" referring to Obama. So you would rather vote for someone Romney, who lies to you 42% of the time vs somone who lies to you 27% of the time, Obama. All politicians lie. I'll go with the guy who tells the truth 73% of the time.
Sep 9, 2012 at 4:06 p.m.
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Not a lot of choices, either way a recovery path will be difficult. However masking problems with tax money (Obamacare) without really finding and implementing real solutions is not what any American needs at this time.
Sep 9, 2012 at 4:03 p.m.
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What many of you fail to acknowledge is the reason there is record unemployment and people on public assistance is the failed policies of the Republicans. People’s jobs were lost at a rate of 700,000/month during a Republican administration. They have exhausted 2 years of unemployment compensation and have exhausted their savings and now as a last resort are applying or on public assistance. Blame Obama all you want but anyone capable of critical thinking knows when the downturn in their lives began. 700,000 a month loss of jobs vs 95,000 jobs/month gained. It’s not a fast recovery but it is heading in the right direction. Am I better off than I was 4 years ago? YES
Sep 9, 2012 at 1:29 p.m.
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I just hope the people will not fall for his lies and BS again. Romney/Ryan!
Sep 9, 2012 at 12:41 p.m.
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Companies are holding excess cash to have enough capital to survive the next meltdown that may be coming if Obama is re-elected instead of relying on Federal bailouts and failed stimulus.Obama sacrificed our jobs and economy in order to push thru his socialist adgenda. Having one of every 7 Americans on food stamps is not a sign of compassion it is a sign of his failure.
Sep 9, 2012 at 12:20 p.m.
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woody; Were you fka mouse, the Koch Brothers hater?
Sep 9, 2012 at 11:45 a.m.
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RetiredAirForce, exactly!
Sep 9, 2012 at 11:43 a.m.
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May 2009 "The recession is over". Sept 2012, the recession worse now then in 2009. Obama and Carter both giving the same DNC speech, both getting same result.
Sep 9, 2012 at 9:42 a.m.
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why_think, your 8:41 a.m. comment is spot on.
Sep 9, 2012 at 8:58 a.m.
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"You make excuses for profitable US companies that send jobs overseas; I make excuses for the union worker asking for $40/hour"
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More false claims...
I support companies/people that operate legally within existing laws. You support changing laws over socialist idea, that is something I will never do. The idea of freedom for all is something you have shown should be limited based on your desires not on real freedom.
Sep 9, 2012 at 8:55 a.m.
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"You choose to support policies that leave millions uninsured, I choose to support the Afforable Care Act. You choose to support deregulation I choose to support regulations."
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Do you base all your faulty comparisons on lies?
I support medical reform that is fixed on prices not insurance. Nothing in the scam of obamacare does anything to address medical costs or the other lefts benchmark of addressing helping people out of work for medical issues that result in bankruptcies.
I support policies (regulation) that are done for the good of the country not special interest groups.
But hey, so far you emotional responses of been void of most logic or truth.
Sep 9, 2012 at 8:47 a.m.
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"Seriously, compare the jobs reated/loss numbers." Okay, sounds like a good idea.
Labor Force Statistics Employment Level Labor force status: Employed Type of data, Number in thousands, Age 16 years and over
Jan 2009 142187
Aug 2012 142101
Results = Less people working now than when he took office.
Series title: Average Weeks Unemployed, Labor force status Unemployed, Type of data Number of weeks, Age 16 years and over
Jan 2009 19.8
Aug 2012 39.2
Results = People out of work 2 times longer now than when he took office.
Series title: Labor Force Participation Rate, Labor force status Civilian labor force, participation rate, Type of data Percent or rate, Age 16 years and over
Jan 2009 65.7
Aug 2012 63.5
Results = More people left the labor force since he has taken office.
Sep 9, 2012 at 8:41 a.m.
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No, RAF, I am not ignoring anything. What I REFUSE to ignore is the fact that Mr. Obama took over an 0-16 football team.
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Compare what the economy, military and health coverage looks like today versus Jan. 2009. It isn't close. It proves that things are moving in the right direction.
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What the "numbers" fail to show and what YOU blindly ignore is that for the first 6 months of his presidency the US was in free fall. What that means is the 700,000/month job loss hasn't fully recovered. That said, we are no where near to losing 700000/month.
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So, you choose the support the policies that created the 700000 job lost/month I choose to support the policies that have created jobs 29 months in a row. You choose to support policies that leave millions uninsured, I choose to support the Afforable Care Act. You choose to support deregulation I choose to support regulations.
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You make excuses for profitable US companies that send jobs overseas; I make excuses for the union worker asking for $40/hour.
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You make excuses for offshore accounts for a millionaire looking to avoid taxes; I made excuses for a man who didn't wear a lapel pin.
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Yes, I support this president and his re-election. I supported GW for his 2nd term and the country was nearly destroyed. Until I see, SEE, different policies proposed I won't go back.
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I honestly don't understand why anyone would.
Sep 9, 2012 at 8:22 a.m.
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Nice excuse whythink wanting to ignore data based on when he started and then lamely try to say others are cherry-picking data.
I understand you are in the tank for Obama, that is your choice. Asking others to ignore what has happened during the last 4 years in some twisted fairy tale of how things are now better. I want you to believe all the twisted tales you want, it has fit your preconceived agenda well to this point. Your silly comparison to football helps your emotional arguments rationalize your desires, I understand.
Sep 9, 2012 at 8:06 a.m.
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Imbky.....Are you serious? So now because Romney said he is committed to our "military" instead of saying he is committed to our "troops", he should be labeled as failing to support them? Well, let me ask you this genius, which candidate is proposing to cut their budget and which candidate is looking to add to it? You guys are etting really desperate!!
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THE REPUBLICANS SET THE BAR WHEN THEY DECIDED TO QUESTION PRESIDENT OBAMA'S LOVE OF COUNTRY OVER A LAPEL PIN.
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Sep 9, 2012 at 7:59 a.m.
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RAF,
"""Dem party insanity: doing the same thing again expecting different results."""
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Tell me how the Rep party insanity is any different. Mr. Romney has offered nothing but the same... cut taxes for the rich, de-regulate, build the military.
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The question is... Do you want to put the party that CREATED the mess back in charge OR the party and hasn't fixed the mess fast enough?
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The other problem is too many people are comparing numbers to the day President Obama was sworn in. Instead compare what was actually HAPPENING ECONOMICALLY to what is HAPPENING today.
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Seriously, compare the jobs created/loss numbers. Compare the military situation... then/now. Compare the stock market... then/now. Compare health care coverage... then/now.
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The republicans keep using these whole numbers because it supports their narrative and because they do not have the courage to compare today's reality to the reality President Obama was handed.
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QUESTION: A football coach goes 2-14 in year one, 6-10 in year two. Does he deserve a year 3?
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ANSWER: Most would say no. Not ENOUGH improvement in the first two years. 8-24 is not good enough. Most would agree with that, no?
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PROBLEM: Coach Schwartz took over the 0-16 Lions, was given year three; Lions went 10-6 making the playoffs.
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Coach Schwartz, like President Obama, has things moving the right way...slowly. Like President Obama, Coach Schwartz deserves a contract extension.
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4 MORE YEARS!!!
Sep 9, 2012 at 7:59 a.m.
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Retiredairforce:"I think President Clinton was very correct on a portion of his comments during the dem convention. He stated there was no way the current president, Obama, could fix the problem he found in 4 years.
Using this yard stick why vote for him again?"
Seems funny that you say that. I have not seen any Republican fix any problem. But they sure do know how to create them for others to try to fix.
Sep 9, 2012 at 7:42 a.m.
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After the Republican convention Romneys campaign said "We are not going to base our campaign on fact checkers". I take that to mean, we are lying to the American public and we are going to continue lying to them because we think they are so stupid that as long as we are telling them what they want to hear they will vote for us regardless of whether or not it is the truth. It's time to put on our big boy/girl pants accept the truth and vote accordingly.
Bill Clinton "Since 1961 … our private economy has produced 66 million private-sector jobs. So what's the jobs score? Republicans 24 million, Democrats 42 (million)." Poltifacts response "After crunching the numbers back to President Harry Truman, we found that jobs did indeed grow faster under Democratic presidents when adjusted for a president’s years served in office. So we rated the claim True."
If you continue to deny historical data and choose to believe and seek out sources that tell you only what you want to hear, you are part of the problem and the reason this country is in this mess. This is exactky the same as telling yourself you have $5K in your checking account when your bank statement clearly says you have only $1k. You then continue to pays your bills on the false data that you want to believe. How long do you think that will work for you?
Sep 9, 2012 at 6:42 a.m.
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Ignoring facts doesn't change them...
Sep 9, 2012 at 6:08 a.m.
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The only "insanity" would be that required to believe the fairy tale you've just created.
Sep 9, 2012 at 5:15 a.m.
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I think President Clinton was very correct on a portion of his comments during the dem convention. He stated there was no way the current president, Obama, could fix the problems he found in 4 years.
Using this yard stick why vote for him again?
Under Obama our nation's debt is higher. Under Obama there has not been a budget for three years. Under Obama more people are unemployed. Under Obama more people are on food stamps. Under Obama more people are on government aide. Under Obama a new entitlement program was created when existing entitlement programs are causing budget problems. Under Obama our economic outlook has been downgraded. Under Obama a record number of people have fell out of the job pool.
Since he couldn't fix the problem he found during his first four years and now things are worse than before, there is no clear way to say he can somehow now fix things (that are worse) when he couldn't deliver his hope and change the first time.
Dem party insanity: doing the same thing again expecting different results.
Sep 8, 2012 at 9:17 p.m.
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The nation will recover a lot faster..! Minus Obama..
Sep 8, 2012 at 8:34 p.m.
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It sounds like you may want to consider joining the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, wislady. And possibly change your moniker to WisDemLady.
Sep 8, 2012 at 6:39 p.m.
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Further proof that Obama just isn't up for the job, and should now get another 4 years. I wonder if he would have a budget at the end of 8 years?
White House to miss deadline for report on 'fiscal cliff' budget cuts
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/bu...
Sep 8, 2012 at 5:11 p.m.
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http://republicanjobcreation.com
Sep 8, 2012 at 11:54 a.m.
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"When you give a speech you don't go through a laundry list, you talk about the things you think are important."
That is what I was referring to. His speech, accepting the Republican nomination to run for President of the United States, among one of his responsibilities is being commander-in-chief of the United States Armed Forces.... As a nation, from our beginning we have been either at war, or fighting almost non stop. In my opinion a little more mention to our men and women who have given their lives, those who are still fighting and those who have returned to us is EXTREMELY important!!!
"So now because Romney said he is committed to our "military" instead of saying he is committed to our "troops", he should be labeled as failing to support them? "
That is not even the quote I had listed. I'm sure he wants to support them, add more money to the budget, keep them at war for many more years. War is big business, and we all know how important the bottom line is to him. It doesn't take a "genius" to figure that out.
Sep 8, 2012 at 8:40 a.m.
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Romney "looking to add" to the military budget is the single greatest reason to not vote for him. Cutting the $700 billion per year funding of the war machine and bringing ALL of our troops home is the greatest REAL act of support for our troops that we can make.
Sep 8, 2012 at 5:26 a.m.
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Imbky.....Are you serious? So now because Romney said he is committed to our "military" instead of saying he is committed to our "troops", he should be labeled as failing to support them? Well, let me ask you this genius, which candidate is proposing to cut their budget and which candidate is looking to add to it? You guys are etting really desperate!!
Sep 8, 2012 at 2:16 a.m.
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I for one could never vote for someone to be President of the United States after hearing this....Asked by a friendly news outlet why he didn't bother praising our troops in his speech, Romney responded:
When you give a speech you don't go through a laundry list, you talk about the things you think are important.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/07...
Sep 8, 2012 at 1:46 a.m.
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As I said, "The fact your position is outside this is one for you to reconcile on your own...as you spin in circles as you always do."
Sep 8, 2012 at 12:43 a.m.
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RetiredAirForce, your original comment was, and I quote, "Tell that to a child who has been the victim of another person's choice of sexuality."
And now you're saying, "The statement I provided had nothing to do with homosexuality or heterosexuality..."
Yeah, sure.
Sep 8, 2012 at 12:27 a.m.
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poo your position is just plain false, as I pointed out. The choice a person decides on, either sexually or anything else has a moral component to it; regardless of direction followed. The statement I provided had nothing to do with homosexuality or heterosexuality; it clearly was based on the moral component of a sexual act through choice.
The position you stated was not based on lawfulness it was based on a proclivity. The simple fact is morals are societal based on what is tolerable or not. The fact your position is outside this is one for you to reconcile on your own, not for me to provide you copious links too as you spin in circles as you always do.
Sep 7, 2012 at 11:24 p.m.
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RetiredAirForce said, "Tell that to a child who has been the victim of another person's choice of sexuality."
No child has ever been the victim of "another person's choice of sexuality." They are victims of another person's choice to commit a crime against them -- regardless of their sexuality. Scientific study after scientific study has shown that heterosexuals victimize children at the same rate as homosexuals. Since your comment implies that you think sexuality is a choice, I'm interested in knowing if you can provide a link to data from scientific studies regarding the average age at which people make a choice of their sexuality, be it heterosexual or homosexual. Perhaps you can share some of the factors you weighed when you were choosing your sexuality.
"The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so." [ http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/ht... ]
Sep 7, 2012 at 10:29 p.m.
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"the only way you can inject morality into the discussion of sexuality is if you believe sexuality is a choice."
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Tell that to a child who has been the victim of another person's choice of sexuality.
Sep 7, 2012 at 7:05 p.m.
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Olderandornerier, the only way you can inject morality into the discussion of sexuality is if you believe sexuality is a choice. Most people when asked when they made a choice about their sexuality, respond that they never recall having made a choice; they don't truly believe sexuality is a choice. Discriminating against people based on something that is not a choice is the same as discriminating against left-handed persons or people with blue eyes.
If your moral beliefs on sexuality are informed by your religious beliefs, Plato's Euthyphro Dilemma delineated, over two thousand years ago, the problem with religious-based morality. Is conduct moral because it is commanded by god or is what is moral commanded by god because it is moral? The dilemma is very complex and you're going to want to spend an appropriate amount of time mulling that over before coming to your conclusion. And, of course, what further complicates using religion to justify morality is that religious people can not agree on issues of morality -- including whether or not people should be discriminated against based on their sexuality.
So, I'm really interested in you providing an answer as to what you think informs the moral judgement that people should be discriminated against based on their sexuality.
Sep 7, 2012 at 5:59 p.m.
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woody, there again,if you have money in foreign bank accounts it is there for safekeeping just like it would be in the US. It is taxed and the you can stash it wherever you want. If Romney had not paid his taxes on it don't you think the IRS would be all over his case? Actually the Caymans are a lovely place for a few coins. Show me where Mitt cheated or did not pay taxes on the money he has offshore.
Sep 7, 2012 at 4:43 p.m.
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Romney would deny gay adoption as he will not recognize nor allow GAYS therefore Gays will not be allowed to adopt
What's the problem with that? Too much morality?
Sep 7, 2012 at 4:03 p.m.
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President Obama can thank the First Lady and President Clinton for this:
"President Obama gets a 52 percent approval rating against 43 percent disapproval in Gallup's daily tracking poll, which surveys 500 Americans a night and averages three days of data. The current tracking poll samples the nights of the Democratic National Convention and represents a major jump for Obama, who has basically been running even on approval in tracking and other major national polls, if not a little underwater. " [ http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/en... ]
"This uptick in these two indicators stands in contrast to tracking during the Republican Convention, during which there was no discernible bounce on the ballot tracking." - Gallup editor-in-chief Frank Newport: [ http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup... ]
Sep 7, 2012 at 3:38 p.m.
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DrTalk comments below ....mindbending -even for a patriot.
Let me guess, you're not a real doctor anymore than I am the King of England, (or a wealthy/inheritor/handsome/philanthropic gazillionaire for that matter).
Sep 7, 2012 at 2:57 p.m.
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I wasn't impressed with Biden's speech or Obama's speech. It just seemed like there wasn't much enthusiasm or interesting content in either speech.
That said, the speech by President Clinton the previous evening was one of the greatest speeches I've ever heard. He set the bar at an awfully high level -- one that even a skilled speaker like Obama didn't come close to matching.
Does anyone else wonder where the third party candidates are? Not even C-Span has provided them with much coverage. Really unfortunate, that.
Sep 7, 2012 at 2:24 p.m.
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I challenge ANY of the Romney supporters to give me exampleS of how policies of a Romney presidency will differ from the policies of GW Bush.
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Given what GW did, how will Romney be different?
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If there is no difference, why support Romney?
Sep 7, 2012 at 2:17 p.m.
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If Rmoney is paying "his fair share", why is he hiding his money in a swiss bank account and the Cayman Islands?? Maybe he only wants to pay his fair share on a small part of his money...
Sep 7, 2012 at 2:11 p.m.
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BOWLGAL - You probably think the many years of Bush were great for our country -->NOT!!!!
Bush destroyed our country! He turned our surplus into deficit. He led us into wars that could not be won under VERY QUESTIONABLE circumstances. Brave young men and women served our country with honor and the loss of life was terrible. There were NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION! More Re-FIB-lican leadership will have us in another war. It will once again be more of the same failed policies like George Bush. By the end of the BUSH time in office, our banks were failing, economy was going down down down. Health care costs grew to excessive amounts with George. There were more tax cuts for the wealthy. Take a look at one of your buddies - U.S. Rep. Republican TOM PETRI who has PAID NO TAXES for at least the last 4 years.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...
99 FACTS ON MITT
http://thinkprogress.org/romney-facts/
Sep 7, 2012 at 1:52 p.m.
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BARATHEON_PRINCE - That is one big shovel of MANURE you have with the Carter comment. We watched it and then we laughed and laughed and laughed....lol. It sure is nice that you set aside this special time to HUMILIATE yourself here. Don't believe everything you think.
Sep 7, 2012 at 1:39 p.m.
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carlitosway, you haven't actually read the party's stance on this have you? Telling you that you are incorrect won't change your mind but just so you know you are listening or reading incorrect propaganda. Read it if you care to sound like you know what you are talking about.
Sep 7, 2012 at 1:35 p.m.
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Ryan continues to support his own lies and bring out more, that the whole COUNTRY knows are lies! Except those that drink his kool aid. I prefer to drink the water and keep it CLEAN.. Obama for a Great America
Sep 7, 2012 at 1:28 p.m.
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Again the posts are amusing as to politfacts Romney would deny gay adoption as he will not recognize nor allow GAYS therefore Gays will not be allowed to adopt. get a clue. The polifacts has just about everything wrong as MITTENS will not admit to anything he intends to do to this country, so how can they find it false? Get a clue,as there is nothing to compare anything to.
Sep 7, 2012 at 1:13 p.m.
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No education today. Just pour entertainment of Obama's speech and Carter's speech side by side.
They are liberal ideology on display from an old and failed playbook. Very very good stuff today.
Clint Eastwood: Mission Accomplished - Obama is the greatest hoax perpetrated on the American people. Brilliant stuff - get folks talking about Obama's empty chair and sock them with the truth.
Sep 7, 2012 at 1:02 p.m.
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Yes, Patriots - be personally responsible and educate yourself. Listen to Rush Limbaugh!
....Good lawd these Patriots are easy to work with. Just think of how many Patriotic comments will come from just reminding them to turn on AM radio today.
Sep 7, 2012 at 12:57 p.m.
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Rush Limbaugh huh...that explains alot of your post
Sep 7, 2012 at 12:50 p.m.
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Woody do you really want the Kochs to pay no income tax?
Sep 7, 2012 at 12:47 p.m.
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Anyone who gets a chance to listen to Rush Limbaugh should turn him on today. He's playing sound bites from Obama last night to Jimmy Carter 1980 - they are identical. It's hilarious!!
Paul Ryan "We fired Carter once, why would we re-elect Obama"
Sep 7, 2012 at 12:39 p.m.
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It's really remarkable how much the Republicans suddenly care about the unemployed. Why, just recently we learned from the Republicans that people are unemployed because they would rather collect unemployment than accept lower paying jobs with no benefits, or because they are simply lazy and stupid and lack personal responsibility. Mittens especially seems remarkable atune, all of the sudden, to the plight of the unemployed.
Sep 7, 2012 at 12:38 p.m.
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It might surprise woody that democrats in the Hamptons drive Rolls and Bentleys as well...
Sep 7, 2012 at 12:20 p.m.
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non-grata, try educating yourself, go to taxfoundation.org, you will see for yourself as I have claimed many times that the rich do pay their fair share. Do you think the bottom 50% pay their fair share/
Sep 7, 2012 at 12:10 p.m.
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A 2nd term? For what? For more debt and destruction of our economy. In 2009 they declared "the recession is over" - the last 3 years are all you Barack Obama.
I didn't hear anything I haven't heard before. Roads and Bridges - taxes - big government -
global warming - booing God -throw Israel under the bus
50% ABC viewership down, CBS 31% -
We are so sick of this same old story. It's over
Sep 7, 2012 at 12:06 p.m.
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You are NOT getting any of MY money Woody.... I worked my arse off inheriting it and then rasslin my brothers.
I've worked even harder protecting it via buying politicians and nice folksy states....beautiful.
Sep 7, 2012 at 12:03 p.m.
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"I don't want Kochs money...I want them to pay the same tax rate as I do."
-- woody
Do you understand that paying the same tax RATE is not the same thing as paying the same amount of taxes?
Sure, Warren Buffet pays a lower RATE than his secretary, but I guarantee you he pays A LOT more in taxes than his secretary. People like Mitt Romney and Warren Buffet don't pay income tax rates because they have no income. Their money comes from investments which are taxed at the capital gains rate. If the government raised the capital gains rate, who be affected? EVERYONE, including those like myself in the middle class, that invests money. Obama is engaging in class warfare politics. Quit buying what he's selling.
Sep 7, 2012 at 11:52 a.m.
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Woody,
Maybe YOU should look up the term "crony capatalism."
"Crony capitalism is a term describing an economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between business people and government officials."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_capit...
You said "Caterpiller is 'giving jobs' with a 6 year pay freeze and pension freeze while the CEO pay goes UP 60%! All this during a year with record profits too!It's called Crony Capitalism...look it up."
What is government's involvement in Caterpillar?
Sep 7, 2012 at 11:41 a.m.
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wizzbang....here are the rolls and bentleys of rmoney's followers at the Hamptons. Did you get invited???
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzEBRxu9J...
Sep 7, 2012 at 11:37 a.m.
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I don't want Kochs money...I want them to pay the same tax rate as I do. I don't want them to change the clean air/water acts so they can pollute more either.
Sep 7, 2012 at 10:27 a.m.
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If you keep doing what you're doing, you'll keep getting what your getting. (Zig Zigler)
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How much of that 50 billion should the Koch's give to you Woody?
Sep 7, 2012 at 10:25 a.m.
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Friend sent me a line on how to tell the difference between a Republican and a Democrat. "The Republican signs his/her name on the front of the check, the Democrat signs his/her name on the back of the check". Let the stoning begin. BTW, I paid an overall effective income tax rate last year of 20% which is more than Romney, Obama, Buffet, etc. paid although I made millions less than Romney and Buffet and hundreds of thousands less than the 800K that the Obamas supposedly made. I am part of the 98% but I write out my own checks, pay my own bills, and do not support either party because there is no one left in the middle. I did not bother watching either convention. Both sides are full of half-truths, selective fact reporting, and downright lying.
Sep 7, 2012 at 10:16 a.m.
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Yes, we will recover. America will recover when Obama is given his pink slip for INCOMPLETE.
He dares ask for another chance to screw up America even more. He KNEW before his speech that America is NOT Working....386 thousand more people dropped out of the workforce, only 96 thousand jobs were created.
Sep 7, 2012 at 10:08 a.m.
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extraordinary claims whz_bng, where do you get your information?
Sep 7, 2012 at 10:04 a.m.
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I'm always amused by conservatives that claim they want to return to the principles of our founding fathers and also claim government needs to quit burdening corporations with so many regulations. Those conservatives surely have NO understanding of the history of corporations in America.
At the time of the founding of this country, corporations were EXTREMELY regulated. It most generally required an act of legislation to authorize each corporation and then only after it demonstrated the PUBLIC INTEREST that would be served by granting the corporation a TEMPORARY charter to conduct business as a corporation.
Students of corporate history further understand that over decades, the laws and regulations governing corporations have become more and more relaxed to the point we find ourselves today that anyone can incorporate by simply completing a form and with NO requirement that the corporation serves a PUBLIC INTEREST. We hear conservatives saying today that a CEO's most important task is to ensure shareholder return on investment!
Come on conservatives! Where's that penchant for returning to the principles of our founding fathers when it comes to corporations?
Sep 7, 2012 at 10 a.m.
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Woody...Where are all the Romney supporters driving these Rolls and Bentleys in town? What a bunch of hooey. Is it really fair that the bottom 50 % pay nothing in taxes? All I heard from Obama was Tax the rich and More class warfare.The rich do pay their fair share. The top 10% of earners already pay 70% of the tax burden. We need more people pulling the cart instead of going on the free ride.
Sep 7, 2012 at 9:43 a.m.
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GREAT speech - Only thing he left out was examples like WI Republican U.S, Rep. THOMAS "PETRI Paid NO STATE TAXES FOR 4 YEARS, RECORDS SHOW" (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel)
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...
Sep 7, 2012 at 9:34 a.m.
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"I certainly don't agree with all of Obama's policies or politics, but I must admit that he is a very powerful and effective speaker."
I can think of someone else in history who was a powerfull and effective speaker...I dare not say his name ore make reference as even Ted Nugent found out that Secret Service dont mess around.
Sep 7, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.
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With the latest jobs report, Romney-Ryan will claim that Obama is not creating enough jobs.
Calm down, take a deep breath and remember, Democratic Presidents have created more jobs than Republican Presidents since 1961:
Democratic Presidents have created 42 million jobs in total
Republican Presidents have created 24 million jobs in total.
That’s a whopping 72 percent more jobs for Democratic Presidents.
Read the facts at:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...
Obama-Biden for a stronger and better America!
Sep 7, 2012 at 9:24 a.m.
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Woody, you are right!
If elected, Romney will be looking out for the Koch Brothers and his other millionaire and billionaire friends.
He will care less about the needs of working class Americans!
Sep 7, 2012 at 9:21 a.m.
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Raystone, you neglected to post ROMNEY"S LIES as documented by Politifact. Suprise, surprise! And, Paul Ryan is quickly catching up with Romney on lying:
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/...
Sep 7, 2012 at 9:13 a.m.
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When the Koch bro's are worth 50 BILLION, what's keeping them from helping the middle class and hiring people??? Instead, the Koch's buy the Repub party and reap the bounty with tax breaks and pollution deregulation that will save them ten fold.
Sep 7, 2012 at 9:13 a.m.
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After watching both the RNC and DNC, and checking indenpendent fact-check sources on all major speeches, I have come to the conclusion that the party leaders of one side are bold-faced liars. Please do the same and you will arrive at the same conclusion.
Sep 7, 2012 at 9:11 a.m.
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Three PAGES of lies coming from the President last night addressed in detail by Pulitzer prize winning PolitiFact. http://www.politifact.com/personalities/...
Sep 7, 2012 at 9:08 a.m.
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Corporations are now awash in cash, yet they aren't hiring. And we are to believe that if the rich get tax cuts, these "job creators" will use the extra income to hire more workers? Hooey! They will invest their extra income in the stocks of multinational corporations, just as they do now. Hiring is driven by the demand for products, which doesn't "trickle down" but builds from the bottom up.
Sep 7, 2012 at 9:07 a.m.
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midnight...you said Rmoney will "Bring the bottom up."
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Please give examples and how it is paid for.
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Reagan's trickle down was a failure.
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"Reagan's theory was really 'trickle down' economics borrowed from the Republican 1920s (Harding-Coolidge-Hoover) and renamed 'supply side.' Cut tax rates for the wealthy; everyone else will benefit. As Reagan's budget director David Stockman confided to me at the time, the supply-side rhetoric 'was always a Trojan horse to bring down the top rate.' Many middle-class and poor citizens figured it out, even if reporters did not."
--William Greider, magazine article, "The Gipper's Economy"
Sep 7, 2012 at 9:06 a.m.
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President Clinton talked about Paul Ryan’s Medicare lies: “takes some BRASS”
That’s a true statement:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/...
Paul Ryan know he was WRONG, because he HAS NOT responded to Clinton’s comment. Paul, cat got your tongue?
Sep 7, 2012 at 9:01 a.m.
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"the rich give us jobs"
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Who do you think was fighting for NAFTA???? It was the RICH that moved companies over seas, not the little guys.
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It's the RICH that subcontract work to over seas companies, not the little guys.
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Did you ever see Rmoney's followers driving any american cars? All I saw were Bentley's, Rolls Royces, ect....
Sep 7, 2012 at 9:01 a.m.
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"We're too great a nation to limit ourselves to small dreams" -Ronald Reagan.
Obama has small dreams for this country. Bring the top down.
Romney has big dreams for this country. Bring the bottom up.
Sep 7, 2012 at 8:59 a.m.
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Look to the poor for jobs is that it?
Sep 7, 2012 at 8:53 a.m.
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"the rich give us jobs" I really had to laugh with that one. Caterpiller is "giving jobs" with a 6 year pay freeze and pension freeze while the CEO pay goes UP 60%! All this during a year with record profits too!
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It's called Crony Capitalism...look it up.
Sep 7, 2012 at 8:51 a.m.
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I guess the dismal jobs number he got before his speech was the reason that he didn't mention that only 96 thousand jobs were added.
According to the CBO....under the current laws which go into effect on Jan 1, the unemployment numbers will go to 9.1% in 2013.
Sep 7, 2012 at 8:44 a.m.
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ff608...we have had bush's tax breaks for the rich for quite a few years now and that sure hasn't helped any. But, that is the ONE thing that the repubs are fighting for tooth and nail. They would put extended tax breaks for the RICH in every bill or plan that went across the presidents desk. WHY??? Because the rich are a greedy bunch and have paid off the repub party.
Sep 7, 2012 at 8:34 a.m.
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With Rmoney, people say YES to more tax payer money gave to big oil, Yes to the super rich paying very low tax, Yes to the Clean Air/Water acts changing so there can be MORE pollution, The middle class having to pay more FEEs, Less regulation on big corporations but MORE REGULATION on the middle class. Yes to some more republican wars (when was the last repub that didn't put us in a war?)
Sep 7, 2012 at 8:31 a.m.
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What a bunch of lies he said in his speech last night. First, he said that cutting regulations on businesses will not spur economic growth. When Bush was in office, there were fewer regulations, compared to Obama's and there was record employment and job security. Now with more regulations, we have record unemployment and no job security. Obama claimed that there were 500,000 new jobs over the past two months, but according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which I heard on the radio, by the way, since 2010, only 300,000 jobs were filled.
Sep 7, 2012 at 8:27 a.m.
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I certainly don't agree with all of Obama's policies or politics, but I must admit that he is a very powerful and effective speaker.
Sep 7, 2012 at 8:24 a.m.
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A convention that started with a debt clock spinning to 16 Trillion and ending with another 368,000 people just dropping out of the work force. America is strong but will she endure another 4 years of intentional Alinsky economy collapse from within matra?
America will say NO in November, no doubt.
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