All this talk about spending and debt. Wasn't it repub hero Dick Cheney who said deficits don't matter?

Most all coach's say the best way to counter a defence is to have a better offence. The Democrats will win because they are way more offensive. :>)

Third_eye,
True,good eye.
There have been allot of extended thought thinkers around the world through out history.It's when they go off the deep end that distorts what the intent was in the first place.

It is when the Rich become Poor,the Poor stay Poor,and the wisdom to know the difference becomes the definition change of both,then the extended thought continues to elaborate that only more will continue to fall of the deep end in in the process of elimination.

Republican Leaders, including Paul Ryan, Began Planning Obama’s Political Demise
on January 20, 2009, the Night of Obama’s Inauguration

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-08-...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25...
-draper-anti-obama-campaign_n_1452899.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0E_lQoYb...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr...

Romney-Ryan:
Working AGAINST America!

Better off? No way.

Anyone claiming that is playing politics, or just plain delusional. It's tantamount to suggesting New Orleans was better off following Katrina because the drought was over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVDi2dGT_...

GoodAmerican, in my review or your posts I came across something of yours that I missed that was about me. It seems you were peeved that I related the term "unionista" to you. And that you used it as justification for in kind insults. Unionista is hardly a term I use as an insult. Literally, it is Spanish word for union member. I use it correctly as a descriptive term for someone who is a union member or supporter. Isn't that an accurate assessment of you?

I also noticed that you rather deliberately mischaracterized my last sentence on my post on that story. You know, the one about the Pizza union. It's a pity you seem to stoop to such tactics so frequently.

GoodAmerican, I've reviewed a number of your posts of late. Your record speaks for itself. On a number of occasions you have allowed your contempt for Republicans and especially conservatives (a distinction without difference since Democrats abhor conservatism) shine through. (I think it's hilarious that you contend that Tommy Thompson is a liberal. The liberals all say otherwise. Do you really think you know better, or were you just being your usually flippant self?) Anyway, I've taken the liberty to repost some of your contemptuousness here. Perhaps the real person behind GoodAmerican thinks he can say he'd vote for a Republican, but your posts make clear that this GoodAmerican persona never would.

On Aug. 31st as 4:30 pm, you posted "Thanks Walker and Johnson, the great job creators. More promises broken by repub lie cans."

On Aug. 26th at 3:54pm "Careful chuckie, your fellow conservatives will attack you for thinking grief is good. :-)"

On July 16th at 7:18pm, "janesvillian--Now don't go making sense! You know that intelligence and thoughtfulness are anathema to our conservative friends."

On July 12th at 4:43pm, "dtb--She's a republican. Are you surprised? :-)"

On July 12th at 8:47 am, "bowlgal--Your jealousy is repulsive. You say that you have voted Democratic all your life. Then, you realized that you didn't know your own mind at all, and like a typical waffler, you ran away from your past and hid in the bushes of right-wing ideology because you don't have the strength of mind to avoid being a waffling, mind-changing, ideology-changing cat on a hot tin roof. I have no respect for people who don't know their own minds any better than you."

I find that post to be particularly revealing. In it, you mock Bowlgal for not having the "strength of mind to avoid being a waffling, mind-changing, ideology-changing cat on a hot tin roof". Yet you thump your chest over your assertion that you'd vote Republican. It's OK or you to change ideology, but it's not OK for Bowlgal? Don't you know your own mind any better than that? After the clarity of that post, is it any wonder why I said "Pants on Fire"? Do you know the truth about yourself?

I think it's clear that you have no respect for anyone who doesn't readily agree with you. I don't mind a bit that I am one of them.

Obviously, GoodAmerican is an automatic vote for the Democrats. They guy behind him? Well, only he knows for sure. But from what all of us can see here, he's a Democrat partisan all the way down to his toes.

Tired and old
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5VMX2Jah...

Yes, we are better off......
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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/09...

Why do I believe that most of us are not better off since Obama became President? Well let's see, home values are down a third or so, gasoline prices are double, food stamp recipients increasing phenomenally, unemployment over 8% for 3 years, $16 Trillion in national debt (one third of it, $5.4 Trillion, added since Obama became President in just over 3 years). These are strong indicators that most folks are worse off than they were in Jan. '09.

Vice President Biden is fully aware of these facts, yet he says we're better off. He's either unaware, which I can't accept, or he's spinning his head off. Therefore, he's earned the rating "Pants on Fire" because he knows better.

And yes, if McCain were President, he would not get my vote or support, but of course he isn't.

Yeah, sure you'd vote for a Republican, GoodAmerican. (Pants on Fire!!!!)

goodpost goodamerican

I understand all that bill. I also know a lot of my neighbors are in the same boat as I am. I feel for the people who aren't. Have they had ample time to improve themselves?? I hear people who will not vote for Obama say over and over when it comes time to extend unemployment benefits that they've had more than enough time to find a job, now we blame the POTUS??

Why do you believe 'most' aren't better off?? Why is it not OK for the VP to assume, but it's A-OK for you to??

As for your last comment, would you be calling for McCains demise if your scenario were true??

Tim, I'm glad to see you're better off. You know how you should vote then. But a whole lot of your neighbors aren't better off. In fact, I believe that most of us aren't better off. That's the President's dilemma. After all, he did say that “if I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.” His term is nearly up, and it ain't fixed yet. By his own words, he doesn't deserve more time.

Now consider this. If McCain had won in 2008 and with the economy the way it is now, would we all think he deserves 4 more years???? Would GoodAmerican, Poobah, Woody, Yada and the rest be here defending him?
I think the answer is obvious.

-Fifty-two percent of likely voters say the nation is in “worse condition” now than in September 2008.
-U.S. Debt Now $136,260 Per Household—Up 50% Under Obama
tthompson - so glad things are better for you on your fantasy island. It's remarkable how someone can think so selfishly, and not see Bush/Obama as continuing to drive all of us into financial disaster while shredding the constitution along the way. Just the fact that the President can now order the assassination of another American means you are worse off than you were 4 years ago, whether you want to associate with it in your daily life or not.

Hwkwind Sep 4, 2012 at 4:14 p.m.
What I am implying is that long posts go beyond the attention span of most readers of these comments.
The term 'extended thought pieces' refers to writing that expounds on an idea in great length.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionar...

third_eye,
I am not sure what you are implying "extended thought pieces"?.Do you mean like being in the Tea Party,Marxism,Monarchism,or some form of inciting a riot even perhaps?
I am only trying to bring to the attention all the rulers of measurement and math,the rich and the poor have completely different definitions when in politics than religions,Public school and religious school,rulers as in a use of measurement and rulers as dictators.
If I hit a nerve with the religious definitions compared to public school definitions,then I hit a nerve.
The only venue to extended thought pieces that I have are related to the differences in definition.Nothing anti American about that is there?

fedup: Let's see, my health insurance is cheaper now and I have better coverage. Please note I do not credit any administration for this, but the fact is it's the opposite of what I was told(by the right) would happen the minute that 'Obamacare' passed. My finances in the present and the short term are infinitely more secure than 4 years ago, but again I don't credit any administration for that, it was choices that I made. There are a few more finance points, but I don't credit them to anyone other than myself either.

I don't think it's any secret here that I sell cars. I sell an 'Import' in a GM town and I sold more new cars last year than I ever have. And because of the tsunami in Japan in March of '11, the manufacturer(by their standards) had a down year, yet I still set a personal best.

I totally understand that there are peeps who are still struggling, I believe the POTUS understands that as well, but I'm with eagle on this one, if you had problems 4 years ago and you haven't done anything to improve yourself in that time frame, how is that the presidents fault??

bowlgal: If you don't think my kids/grandkids were already in trouble(debt wise) before this administration then I've got a reliable Gremlin to sell you.

Eagle.......Because he didn't qualify for as much government assistance as he does now:)

woody, that stinks, but why were you worse off?

I was MUCH worse at the end of the Bush era.

GoodAmerican that is very valid in regards to Osama Bin Laden, I am more inclined to give the military more credit for his demise however, I give credit to the President for not caving to his supporters and giving up the fight and eventually being successful.

GoodAmerican, you do know who had the first chance to kill Bin Laden and didn't get it done?

If you take just one issue (gasoline) how much better would Americans be right now?
If 300 million people paid $2.00 less for every gallon pumped times per tank times per visit times the last three years?

The Presidents Interior Dept is in contempt of court for his unconstitutional drilling ban and he signed yet another executive order putting more obstacles in the way of energy for Americans-hiding behind the coverage of the RNC.

Who looks at any president or politician and gives them credit or blame for where they are in life? That is really sad, if you are doing better is that because you worked hard or made good decisions, on the contrary if you are worse off is it because you haven't applied yourself or made bad decisions? I am better off but it has nothing to do with which current liar is in the Oval office. in 2004 I was significantly better off than I was in 2000 or even 1996, it was all my own doing as a self employed person. But if we go off the shallow general idea of the country as a whole I would have been the exception, since Bush was in office and Clinton was in office the previous 8 years. If we live in a free country with opportunity which I believe we still do, then it is irrelevant who is president or governor or whatever, it is still up to you. If no then why do any of us bother getting up in the morning if we have given these people all this power to run our lives?

http://www.gazettextra.com/photos/2012/s...

I see our national debt just went over 16 trillion. I hope the children and grandchildren of tthompson can say they were better off someday.

Yes wislady and Nicki Minaj is now feeling the rath of being a "runaway slave" with multiple attacks for endorcing Romney. Brutal language and intolerance seems standard fair from the left.

Independents are paying attention.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55aujTwuJ...

When the party of the President has to defend his record, they have lost the offensive and most likely the election.

Better off? I'm glad one of us is tthompson.

I just read they are moving the 74,000 seat speech all the way down to 20,000. They just can't fill the seats.
It explains why he's only been doing small colleges and the media will only show the people sitting behind him.

College graduates still living in the bedroom they grew up in staring at old faded Obama posters. It's over.

**Janna
(Mistype....have a relative named Lana)

The war against republican continues with the attacks on Ann Romney and Lana Ryan.

Nickelodeon has yet to comment on the obnoxious Twitter remarks by Jason Briggs, and still has a link to his Twitter feed on their site.

http://www.therightscoop.com/megyn-kelly...

UpstreamTV of Occupy DNC

http://www.ustream.tv/occupyeye

'I rate the Vice President's claim as "Pants on Fire"!'

You would be wrong. I stand with the President and VP and say that I am indeed better off than I was 4 years ago. If the VP is, and so I is, that would make WE is, which means your "Pants on Fire" claim actually put yours ablaze, kind sir.

Today is 16 Trillion Dollars Day!

You know things are bad for an incumbent when his supporters are playing make believe by posing the question what if the challenger was president for the last 4 years and setting up all the bad things the incumbent has done but saying it would be worse. How long do your arms have to be to grasp for those Obama straws? lol

The Democrats could talk about how the U.S. will be energy dependent by 2020 WITHOUT the need to drill in ANWR. Of course it would not be possible without Obama's policies that encouraged the growth of alternative forms of energy.
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Petroleum prices are determined by market forces, NOT by U.S. Presidents.
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How many jobs were we losing as Obama took office? As Bush was leaving office our economy was failing at a rate exceeding that of the Great Depression as a direct result of Republican economic polices. With two months of taking office, Obama’s job stimulus plan helped stop the collapse and led to a spike in job growth. Unfortunately Republicans blocked more stimulus which ultimately led to a slower rate job growth. Why would we want to return to the proven failures of Republican economic policies?

Difference between the rich and poor? CEO of Caterpillar getting a 60% increase of pay while the workers get a 6 year pay and pension freeze. That's how the big boys roll.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MKfqEzAL...

Poohbah,

Romney wasnt POTUS for the past 4 years and there is no way to know with any certainty where the USA would be. Obama IS POTUS and here we are:

16 Trillion debt
1.4 Trillion budget deficit
8.3% Unemployment
15% U6 unemployment
3.60 Gasoline
47 Million on food stamps
Gitmo is open
Afghanistan is a mess
USA credit rating down graded
Healthcare costs continue to rise-despite the promise of Obamacare
college tuition rising faster than healthcare

But the DOW is up......(I only thought the rich invested?)....

And what does Obama want? Mitt Romneys tax returns? Obama says he has a "plan"....but was unable to execute his "plan" while the Dems had majority control of congress? Hope and Change and its finest!

Hwkwind: WOW. I gotta wonder if this is the venue for extended thought pieces.
I think you lost your audience with your first post @11:05am.

A question Americans should be asking themselves is where would we be right now had Romney been president for the last four years. Unemployment even higher as corporations get more breaks for taking jobs overseas -- like his bank accounts. Probably fighting wars in Libya, Iran, Syria and Egypt - trying to establish Christian democracies in those countries. Romney would have accelerated and widened the wealth and income disparity gaps in America. I look forward to the Democrats making the stark contrast in policies between Obama and Romney.

Newbi-
You seem to be religiously antiquated.Can you give me your definition of what is going on in the Capital in the Definition of the Rich and the Poor?
What is Rich to you and what is Poor to you?
What do you think about the claim of taxing the Rich?Do you notice a definition difference of the Rich and Poor when it comes to religion and politics?

As we speak,the entire political debate NOW is the definition of the Rich vs the definition of the Poor.And it isn't one that most think it is either.
It truly that of the religious rich that is being construed over the taxes of the rich.
yet today,the very debate of religious definitions that are on the front burner,not the political definitions.
The two definitions differ hugely.

The Rich in Politics are those that make so much a year.Whereas religious definitions differ hugely.
Defining the rich in one sense,is to be as one with nature.Where as those that take up that nature and earth are of great importance.Some leave it at that while others have other meanings of the situation,for example Christianity is the same thing as being as one with nature,however it is by that of being saved through Jesus' copy rights,needs to be accomplished.And there is some sense to the equation,however there are far to many religious factions of Christianity as well as the definitions of so vast an area of languages (still yet today)that to get back to the point of ruler will never be accomplished as long as the continuation of religious dogma is strong.Neither will taxing the Rich and giving to the Poor,when in Religious dogma,the poor are the rich,and the rich are the poor.

It could very well be that the religion of it infers that the poor should be taxed more.It could very well be that this is where the situation is hidden from such tax scenarios to continue to define the situation as either a religious definition or political one,and that it is convenient for both parties to continue the benevolence to jump from one definition to the other while maintaining there monopoly on all of as the Poor folks with all that money.
That is in it's self enough for any politician to refer to them-selves as "religious".In fact,it is enough for any of us to refer to ourselves as religious,and without any need for any religious leader to do so.
In all foundations,our connection to the earth is a very strong aspect of religious beliefs.
To be Rich is to be as one with nature.To be poor is not the ability to in-port into ones mind that changes and occupational fluctuations are not nailed down to a socialist agenda that tells people that this is all you can ever be and do.Those are the Poor.Those are the party that would like for you to think that your knowledge of events is not necessary.They will handle all of that for you.
And why shouldn't they,after all,your choices of religious dogma still maintain choices of confusion based on the definitions of the Rich and the Poor.Not based on what those words truly mean as well as where they come from.
Religious dogma will only continue to bend the definitions to their suiting and Poor needs.

I saw Joe Biden bragging that we are better off now than 4 years ago. Excuse me, Mr. Vice President, but I don't need you to tell me whether or not I'm better off now after 4 years of the Obama administration. I can handle that one on my own. I rate the Vice President's claim as "Pants on Fire"!

Joe Biden has a new bumper sticker idea to support his absurd assertion. It's "Osama Bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive!" Osama Bin Laden's death hasn't improved anyone's lot one bit. As for GM being alive? Not in Janesville, thank you very much.

If the President and his minions really think they "got 'er done" why don't the hang a banner across the front of the White House that says "Mission Accomplished". It could have a picture of the President and Vice President in their Navy Seals uniforms holding their M-16's. They say a picture paints a thousand words. That one would paint a million of 'em.

As long as the President and his minions are taking credit for a job well done, they may as well take some bows for a few more things. Such as home values being down a third or so, gasoline prices doubling, food stamp recipients increasing phenomenally, unemployment over 8% for 3 years after the stimulus package was promised to keep it below that. I could go on, but after listing all these accomplishments, it would look like bragging for the President to take credit for more, though he surely does deserve more recognition for what he's accomplished.

In spite of all the wonderful things he's done for us, somehow I suspect that the President and his minions won't be able to resist tossing a little more mud on his predecessor. Like a guy with a drinking problem, they just won't be able to stop themselves.

Q: How will the Dems defend the National Debt which will hit $16 Trillion today, 8.3% unemployment, real unemployment closer to 16%, unemployed/underemployed over 20 million, welfare recepient's up 46%, $4 a gallon gas..? A: They won't talk about any of these..!

Let the FACADE begin!!!!

That is correct winklady, Scotty and I have moved women out of the kitchen and over to the den (and sometimes to state offices) where they sit behind computer keyboards hacking out patriotic right-wing hate.

2012 Democratic National Convention Schedule -- Charlotte, N.C.
•7:10 PM - Pledge of Allegiance to Obama.

•8:00 PM - Denunciation of Bitter Gun Owners and Bible readers.
•9:00 PM - Obama Energy Plan Symposium/Tire Gauge Demonstration/You too can get rich with Green Investment bankruptcies

•10:00 PM - Obama Accepts Oscar, Tony and Latin Grammy Awards
•10:45 PM - Feeding of the Delegates with 5 Loaves and 2 Fish Obama Presiding
•11:00 PM - Official Nomination of Obama by Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and Chris Matthews
•12:01 AM - Obama Accepts Nomination as Lord and Savior
•12:05 AM - Celestial Choirs Sing
•3:00 AM - Biden Delivers Acceptance Speech

If the elected official wants to hand of the responsibilities of marriage to religion,then why not just let the Pope move in to the White house.At least then we could get down to some business of dealing with the earths realities before it is to late.
Here,We can all become Christian soldiers in the Christian army hunting down all those that do not meet the criteria of "His" definition of a higher education.We will all belong to the common "sense" of such higher educational thinking.The word "Rich" will only have one meaning.We will all be poor unless we seek refuge through "Him"to be Rich,until the day you die to which you will be rich then,but only then.Only he holds the power to determine who is closer to god,by way of common sense through "His"definition of higher education.
We have gone way to far in our struggles to deal with things here on earth for the chaos that would ensue do to religious bonding of society due to the common sense of one person,rather than the common cents of a Nation.

Auto and home sales are up!!!!
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872...

The very topic itself is the guidelines for thought as to what the people perceive.
To vote for an elected official is the same thing as to take measurement and calculation of the person that you are looking to examine such measurement.To rule the situation is to take measurement and calculation to the event.For the government to feel(yet not think)that perhaps by allowing religion to rule the situation is going to solve a problem(at least while they are in office making enough to perhaps retire one day and then they can laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of society burns around them)is all that it is going to solve.But as far as the rest of the government of We the People goes,it will be a long road to recovery if people don't start to exercises their right to rule and just exactly the real definition of to "rule" is.

Tell your elected official that religious dogma has been the problem,not a resolve.
The Christian will readily admit that the definitions of the old world has been misconstrued:
Ask your religious leader about how the bible states that we should have no rulers.We perceive this word as a form of measurement to make such determinations on how to deal with a budget,leadership,the changing world in regards to technology as well as the real world of harsh realities still exist.Those harsh realities are the number one changer of occupation.Yet not ruling informs us to make wrong choices in leadership.Wrong choices in balancing a budget,and wrong carrier choices because we lost focus to the realities of occupational fluctuations around us.It doesn't just stop there.Education is on an all time low because the very explanation is destroyed through religious dogma.
Adultery,
An entire definition change from what we are taught in school.Grow up and be adults.Act your age.
Another misguided religious phenomenon that caves in with the knowledge that we are taught.
What is it to be an adult?It means live with in the guide lines of the law.Adultery means to live as a responsible human being.
Not according to the bible.Adultery is a very vague definition in the bible.
So I ask you this.Who is going to take hold of the definitions of words that we are taught in school over religious definitions that readily admit that those words don't always mean what they say due to the vast amount of languages and people that Jesus visited during his travels.They have no Merritt in our education in the United States.So it is time to get away from the dictatorship of religious struggles of becoming the god compared to the next in line dogma of religion.
Who will take charge in education should the government decide to pass the buck on marriage?We have only lived this life of dogma for to long to know that no one will be running marriage,occupational fluctuation and job creations,or anything else when the number one job will become being in the armed forces cleaning up the mess that lack of government created to begin with.

;-)

You better be careful Third Eye.......It sounds like garyprimer might be following in Democratic Representative Gauthier's footsteps in attempting to lay the groundwork for a compromising situation. Whatever you do--if he asks you to meet him at a secluded rest stop.....DON'T GO!!!!:)

Yes, the dems say even the poor are people too, while, Rmoney passes over the poor and middle class and says "corporations are people too". If you don't think this is Class Warfare, you better wake up.

Mining company owned by a reflublican, forces employees without pay to Rmoney fund raiser...then lies about it??? Same old Crony Capitalism.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ-2pGb-p...

Reflublican plan...more tax breaks for the rich. More giveaways to the big corps and big oil. More unfunded wars. More of the rich evading taxes. More of what caused the economic downfall. Just MORE of the Bush era.

It always sounds good to keep the government out of the equation of things,but when things get out of hand is when you will go whining back to the government asking for help in resolving the communication problem that you never got right to begin with.
Why make a short story long?The government will still need to regulate all the other religions that involve marriage.The government will still need to take or give out religious subsidizes regardless.Why not just focus on the regulations of the government as they are and go that way rather than focus on religious freedoms and the word marriage to which who does this word belong anyway?One religious sect,two religious sects,all religious sects,or all of the American people who are a already involved in Government?Then why all the beating around the bush?
The definition of a marriage has but only one definition anyway.The bonding of a government of we the people to create any term "the government" is without Merritt if "We the People"are not a part of that equation.The elected official comes and goes,but the government Will always remain as long as We the People are still intact.And as long as We the People are intact,then Government will always be intact.
The Government can not keep in demand to all the religiosity in the Nation or World.They have already tried that,and it is backfiring in our faces now.
We need a government that can utilize definitions with out Merritt to huge amounts of benevolence that does nothing but throws huge amounts of money away back to the dumps only to be buried for the next elected official to deal with as well as the next voter to ponder if we are heading in the right direction when it becomes to late.
Besides,the scenario of religious marriage only becomes the copy rights of the religious leaders.Not the government elected officials.So the government is barking up the wrong tree when or if they feel that the burden of marriage should be put on religious leaders.
Only one person will benefit from such an equation of allowing the churches to regulate their own marriage symposium.That ends up being one religious dictator bringing us back to the dark ages of religious intervention in the most terrorizing complexities.
Doesn't matter what religious dogma they put on you,they will dictate how you perform your marriage anyway.So there is no escaping the immoral of injustice until We the People decide that marriage is bonded by a community and government right from the onset.Not later after all our money has been given to politics and religious factions through some form of right offs that will send us all down the drain.

WISLADY - I think you should read the book by MIKE LOFGREN - "THE PARTY IS OVER: HOW REPUBLICANS WENT CRAZY, DEMOCRATS BECAME USELESS, AND THE MIDDLE CLASS GOT SHAFTED" - It is a really good book and you would enjoy it. Don't worry it picks on the Democrats also. :-) The author is a long time & a former Republican - seriously - check it out and it may soften your views somewhat. If you don't buy it today - then you have time to finish washing the dishes and keep that kitchen tidy.

I was thinking more on the back porch.
;-)

The president is asking people to be patient with him. 4 years how much more patience can he expect? He had his chance lets move on.

Double digit unemployment.
FOUR MORE YEARS
Double the national debt.
FOUR MORE YEARS
Blame it on Bush.
FOUR MORE YEARS
That's the spirit we have here at the Democrat Convention!

Convention observations:
-While conventions are moslty "pep rally(s)" for the base, as concernedwi pointed out, many things get accomplished. The stage is set for the final weeks of the campaign and the tone is set for the candidates that are campaigning for local, state, and national office.
-Judging by the posts on Gazettextra following the Republican Convention it seems that many liberal minded people did not watch the convention but depended on talking points provided by left leaning information outlets. I wonder if we will see the same from conservatives after this convention.
-The strategy of the Democrats seems to be providing enough distraction so that a person forgets that he is unemployed while he casts his ballot. (or her)

garyprimer

You just posted the perfect example of the real "war on women".

Why do democrats want to keep women in the kitchen?

Wislady, you are stuck in the 19th century.
Please put down that ipad
and get back to churning butter.

Wislady thank you for the history lesson but times have changed and so have each party. You are the one who posted that GM had left, time to move on and stop talking about it. Yesterdays Dems are today's Republicans and vice versa. I prefer to look at what the parties represent today, not in the 1800s. If you want to try to say that the KKK is connected to today's Democratic party, they did a pretty poor job electing a minority, non-Wasp candidate. Please take your own advice and look at the present. I prefer to vote for candidates based on their own personal idealogy and not by what party they belong to. For every Anthony Weiner there is a Elliot Spitzer. Each side is capable and somewhat proficienct at attracting criminals and creeps.

I am surprised that the "Republicans"
haven't passed a law banning Democratic assembly.
What's that you say, Mr. Chair?
No, no, I think that you
may have done that
to yourselves.

Dems......

Supported slavery in 6 platforms from 1840-1860.
Opposed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution that successively wiped out slavery and gave both legal rights and voting rights to black Americans.
Supported segregation actively or by silence in 20 platforms from 1868-1948.
Opposed anti-lynching laws, specifically supported by the GOP in four platforms between 1912 and 1928.
Opposed the GOP-sponsored Civil Rights Acts of 1866, which focused on legal equality for blacks.
Opposed the GOP on giving voting rights to blacks in the District of Columbia in 1867. The legislation was passed over the Democrats’ objection..
Nominated an 1868 presidential ticket of New York Governor Horatio Seymour and ex-Missouri Congressman Francis Blair. The Democrats pledged they would declare the Civil Rights laws passed by the GOP “null and void” and would refuse to enforce them. They lost to Ulysses Grant.
Opposed the Enforcement Acts, three laws passed by the GOP between 1870 and 1871 targeting the rise of the Ku Klux Klan and making it a federal crime to block the right of blacks to vote, hold office, serve on juries and have equal protection of the laws with whites.
Opposed the GOP Civil Rights Act of 1875, which prohibited discrimination of blacks in public accommodations.
Used the Ku Klux Klan as what Columbia University historian Eric Foner calls “a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party.” Nor is there reference to University of North Carolina historian Allen Trelease’s description of the Klan as the “terrorist arm of the Democratic Party.” Nor is there mention of the infamous 1924 Democratic Convention — the “Klanbake” as it is known to history because hundreds of the delegates were Klan members. The Klan-written platform mixed the traditional Democratic message of progressivism and racism in the Klan-written platform.
Repealed the Civil Rights laws enacted by GOP Congresses and presidents, already damaged by the Supreme Court. When Democrats gained control of both Congress and the White House in 1892, the Democrats’ President Grover Cleveland signed the repeal on February 8, 1894.

http://www.therightscoop.com/dnc-website...

Three days of laying the blame on the Rich. Three days of ignoring the truth. Four days of Obama praising himself.

Here is a record potus can run on.....

Record 46.7 million Americans received food stamps in June

Even felons can get into the convention, as long as they show PHOTO ID.

Former Alabama governor laying groundwork for Obama pardon at DNC

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/03/former...

Does anything actually get accomplished by either convention? Do any actual plans that are going to have a positive effect get laid out for the people to see? Both parties are trying to have the better pep rally to get their side motivated.

The dem party platform is a fun read. One mention of the national debt (but they ignored mentioning how high it is), student debt is mentioned twice as much as national debt, and Obama is mentioned over 130 times...interesting platform.