I should clarify and say the DEBT will never go down...Eventually when we get in the 2-3 trillion of yearly debt, it may go from like 2.5 trillion to 2.4 trillion the next year, and they will claim it's being reduced! HA

"Don't worry, Ed said that Mitt will reveal the details of his tax plan once he is sworn into office -- which will be...never."
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Right on.
I still just want either candidate to come out with the intellectual honesty, and just freaking admit that The deficit will NEVER go down, and that they fully embrace the current path of monetary creationism. I mean, it's the last resort destructive patch of all failed empires throughout man kind. Nonetheless if someone would just be honest, and say that is their plan (because it IS what BOTH will do) at least then they would have a real plan.

Kansas City Star
“Romney is Clueless”
http://www.vindy.com/news/2012/oct/16/ro...

Associated Press:
"Big Gaps in Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions”
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/oct...

CNN: "Romney Tax Plan: Two Big Unknowns"
http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/16/news/eco...

Bloomberg News:
"Romney Tax Plan, Secret or Nonsensical?"
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-15...

Mitt Romney: scary and way too extreme for President!

It only makes sense. Congressman Ryan voted against it, but it passed anyway. Then he did the prudent thing and asked for some for his constituents. Good move Mr. Ryan. At least he didn't stoop so low as to hand-out free bama phones to bribe the takers.

nothingbutfearandrhetoric way to live up to your name. All rhetoric while skipping past all the owners of bain to your lame linked story.

well retiredwhiner I am simply pointing out that since you are a Republican HACK and are a partisan follower, that maybe you should look at the man that is considered the messiah of your party. He is by your definition a socialist. You are nothing more than a fringe wing nut lunatic for the tea party Reppublican party and a follower of everything right wing and republican as everyone who reads your ramblings knows to be true. So maybe your party should address the fact that your messuiah is in fact a socialist. You do subscribe to the tea party and all their beliefs and they are always referring to Reagan as the father of conservatism, I love pointing out that he in fact bailed the country out of recession by massive government spending and increasing debt and defecits.

Whats wrong RAF you forget to read todays right wing talking points? Everything that you disagree with, no matter how factual is "leftist" and"fringe". That makes you a "fascist" and "fringe" in your own right. Keep pushing your brnad, it is not of any independant thought it is talking points and marching orders repeated.

Well, wislady, is Chris Wallace of FOX News credible enough for you?

"Gillespie, Fox’s Chris Wallace Spar Over Claim That Six Studies Validate Romney’s Tax Plan" [ http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/en... ]

Don't worry, Ed said that Mitt will reveal the details of his tax plan once he is sworn into office -- which will be...never.

LaborParty
If you are trying to prove a point, you really should back up your claims with credible sources. A video from April of 2011 doesn't work when you are making claims from something that was said last week at the debate. People in that video (April 2011) were actually sitting in their chairs and engaged in a discussion. That's what a town hall meeting is.

RYAN vs Honey BOO BOO

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-08-...

"There will never be a recovery until we have a prosperous middle class and to think that more tax cuts for the wealthy are the answer hasn't worked since reagon. Before you say I hate the wealthy and business, let me say, I now have a business and am more than comfortable and would never have to work another day in my life."
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I love comments like these. They have been told many times by other leftests on these blogs. These same people declare trickle down was the starting point of all the problems. Many of these folks also declare taxes on some should be raised while not one of them is willing to step up to the plate and lead by example by paying more of thier own above what is required by law. After all these same people declare they never "have" to work another day in their life but they fail to lead by example...imagine that.

fearandnothingbutrhetoric what exactly does Ronny R have to do with this election or this story? Are the tales of great things by the current administration so short that Ronny is the only thing left to talk about? Wow.

fearandnothingbutrhetoric are you aware public unions have more invested in bain funds than does Romney? If your leftest stories shared the whole story I wonder if you would still think it was such a good link, pathetic.

916 - I can copy and paste just as easy...
"Paul Ryan has made it clear over the last few weeks that he doesn't believe the auto rescue was a good thing for our country, its workers and the now-resurging American auto industry," Benenati said in a statement. "Romney and Ryan believe the president did the wrong thing in moving swiftly to save the auto industry – even though the evidence of the president's success in states like Ohio and Michigan is undeniable, where the auto industry is helping fuel the state's economic recovery and bringing American manufacturing back to life."
Ryan lied and said Obama was to blame for the closing of GM, in reality He and Bush were running the show were they not? And did Walker not promise jobs jobs jobs? I see he is just as successful at bring jobs to Janesville, I guess Ohio and Michigen seeing jobs arrive means nothing.
Hummmm if other states are gaining jobs, and WI isn't, it's Obama's fault because he made a statement before he had any control to stop GM from closing, but the continued lack of job gains in Janesville even though Walker did his song and dance is Obama's sin? Ok twisted sista

fear, LOL... take it easy with the facts! They aren't going to read up on the truth, they'd rather be spoon fed misinformation by their talking heads.... it is less messy that way.... and then they're happy...

Read the latest about Paul Ryan’s MANY LIES!
This guy could become President, if Romney wins and becomes incapacitated.
Ryan told 24 lies in 40 minutes at the VP debate!
http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/201...
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/arch...
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/1...

Lyin Paul Ryan lied again.

He didn't write just two letters asking for stimulus, he wrote four letters and made other appeals, as this AP story reflects.
America can't trust SERIAL LIARS Romney and Ryan!

12 million jobs??
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/octob...
Maybe in China

Ronald Reagan remains the modern Republican Party’s most durable hero. His memory will be hailed as The Great Uncompromiser by those who insist the GOP must never flag in its support for smaller government, lower taxes and conservative social values.

His record tells a different story.

During Reagan’s eight years in the White House, the federal payroll grew by more than 300,000 workers. Although he was a net tax cutter who slashed individual income-tax rates, Reagan raised taxes about a dozen times.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/bloomberg...

After seeing no response from the true believers I must say that it is true.
Ronald Reagan was a socialist. Expanded government and spending to dig us out of a recession. Yet he is the conservatice Messiah? As Koch would say, BEAUTIFUL!!

RetiredAirForce - Your comment at 17:17 I had the good fortune to start working during the time you mentioned and I can tell you that things went downhill when reagon fed the people his trickle down nonsense. We had people that were poor before that, but he got elected on his welfare queen lies and promises of tax cuts for all. Well we never saw any growth until he raised taxes. people seem to forget that. Actually I think he may have raised them several times. Since then no politician has dared tell anyone we have to pay for the things we want. Then the constant rhetoric about the poor. It has a lot to do with right wing policies of doing everything they can to keep wages as low as possible. Then blame the poor for being poor. There will never be a recovery until we have a prosperous middle class and to think that more tax cuts for the wealthy are the answer hasn't worked since reagon. Before you say I hate the wealthy and business, let me say, I now have a business and am more than comfortable and would never have to work another day in my life. But to see this country that I love, being led down this garden path, that the romney's and ryan's want to take is just unworkable. They are not bad people they are just dead wrong.

RAF...it's called statistical sampling, the percentages wouldn't change even if they evaluated 100% of every statement made by politicians, which is unrealistic. You can read for yourself the specific statements that were evaluated at Poltifact. I'm sure you would pick and choose the statements you wanted evaluated. Third_eye your right, I'm not basing my vote on that chart alone. I'm just very bored with the constant he said/she said back and forth on this site. THEY ALL LIE. They are just hoping most people won't take the time to try to find out what the truth is. The Romney campaign said they were not going to base thier campaign on fact checkers, they were going to tell the people what they want to hear, even if it isn't the truth. I myself resent them thinking I am that stupid. I don't want to elect someone who is telling me what they think I want to hear. I've got my big boy pants on, I want to hear the truth so that I can make an informed decision.

Oneday. -Somehow I suspect that you didn't need the chart you posted to make your voting decision.

Lol, that is only the % they looked at not the real number.

Statements by candidates:
True:
Obama 22%
Romney 16%
Biden 19%
Ryan 10%

Mostly True:
Obama 23%
Romney 14%
Biden 22%
Ryan 19%

Half true:
Obama 26%
Romney 28%
Biden 25%
Ryan 23%

Mostly False:
Obama 12%
Romney 17%
Biden 16%
Ryan 32%

False:
Obama 14%
Romney 17%
Biden 13%
Ryan 10%

Pants on Fire Lie:
Obama 2%
Romney 9%
Biden 5%
Ryan 6%

Again; ALL POLITICIANS LIE. I'm going with those who lie to me the least.

poobah Oct 13, 2012 at 1 a.m- In other words he was doing the job he was elected to do. Had he not YOU would be screaming from the other side of this issue.
An analogy: The Milwaukee Brewers proposed a new rule that there would be 4 outs per inning. The idiot fans critisized the Brewers for continuing to play the 3 out version of the game while this new rule was being debated.

and also LaborParty @11:14, What I see is that Ryan played by the rules in place (on behalf of his constituents) while proposing new rules. WHY IS THIS AN ISSUE?????

Labor PartY oct12@11:14 AND LaborParty@7:55am. AND I REPEAT, a group of 8 Catholic Bishops that support liberal causes commented negatively on Ryan's budget plan. They are not Archbishops and they don't represent the Catholic Church in their political role. Bishop Morlino endorses Ryan. Bishop Morlino heads the Diocese of Madison, thus he IS 'Ryan's Bishop'.

nvgrf since every fringe position you took has been resoundingly beaten by legal voters in this state your current opinion from out west means as much as a dust devil...blows through in moments with no effect.

Rick Perry & even Sarah Palin turned down Stimulus money. What did Paul do?

http://elections.americablog.com/2012/10...

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/17390...

Correction health care
Was .002% to .05%

Similar to Romney's comment that he felt it was fair for someone who made 20 million last year to pay a lower percentage in taxes than someone who made 50 thousand. All benefits should apply to the wealthy (or in this case Paulie's State) but not to others.
And RAF and wislady...Is it really that difficult for you to stay on the article's topic? A touch of ADD maybe?

west your attempts to draw parallels to the spending from 50 years ago and now are absent the biggest issue, real facts.

In 1957, the last year in that decade that national debt decreased the nations GDP was ~461 Billion and defense spending was ~51 Billion, near 11%. http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year...

In 2011 the nations GDP was ~15.094 Trillion and Defense spending was ~878 Billion, near 6%. http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year...

The other fact you missed for over a decade when the highest tax rate was over 90% the nation still increased debt levels for a majority of those years; even with these high tax rates our government still spent more than they collected.

Pretending increasing tax rates and lowering only one piece of the puzzle is a fix is completely devoid of logic, math, and fiscal sanity.

From 1957 to 2011 Spending % of GDP.
Pensions went from 1% of GDP to 5%
Welfare went from .04% of GDP to 3%
Education went from .03% of GDP to .07%
Health Care went from .02% of GDP to .01%
Defense went from 11.1% of GDP to 5.8%
Total spending went from 17% of GDP to 23%

So the only thing you complained about was an area that spending actually went down...why is that, oh never mind. There has never been an issue with tax collection in this nation, just spending.

--> "The CHANGES in position threaten to derail Ryan's reputation among conservatives..."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/...

"RYAN Asked For FEDERAL Help As He Championed Cuts"

http://www.jsonline.com/news/usandworld/...

It is MAGIC--> "The ROMNEY SPELL: Paul Ryan Starts Flip Flopping Days After VP Selection"

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/...

Does this area need 20 million dollars in government support for a pork-packing plant? Has Ryan brought back enough pork to be worthy of such a project? How "busy" has he been in Washington? Is he just another Washington insider feathering his own nest? Perhaps a more thorough report of his actual accomplishments (chronological report) would be instructive for Gazette readers.

this is old news.

Time for a new president!

Glad to see the lawsuit against the GAB!

Btw, if one wanted to bring defense spending to the levels it was in 1950, about 4% of GDP you'd have to cut 2/3 of the US Navy. I'm sure the Republicans will be on board with that, amirite? Of course this even despite just ending WWII and getting ready to embark on the Korean conflict as well.

However, without realizing it, Retiredareforce brings up a good point. The US is looking at Federal revenue levels that are on par WITH 1950. If you want to tax your people like it's 1950, you have to spend like it's 1950, or raise taxes. There are no other options. Currently the US is about the 3rd LOWEST in government revenue compared to the rest of the civilized world.

You're going to tell me that Romney/Ryan are going to fix these things? I'm sure there's a punchline to this joke, at least I hope there is.

The problem with America isn't the President, the Republicans or Democrats. It's you, the American that turned into a world gobbling consumer, hung up on belief systems that are arcane and completely disconnected with reality.

Ryan did the right thing to ask for money for his constituents. We would want nothing less from our Congressman than to support his people. However, by asking for this money and stating the dire need for it, he should NEVER say it didn't work and was a waist during his campaign. That shows his hypocrisy. Yes, both sides seem to do this but Lyan Ryan seems to be the smarmy master it.

Just ONE of the VP lies from the debate, "Let me make it absolutely clear. No religious institution—Catholic or otherwise, including Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital—none has to either refer for contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. That is a fact. That is a fact."

In fact there are over 35 lawsuits challenging the very HHS mandate this VP thinks isn't there...sad.

http://www.becketfund.org/hhsinformation...

Yes, Retiredairforce, and it's grown just as much if not more under Republican held Congresses and Presidential administrations. I imagine you're voting for Romney/Ryan regardless of these facts? Do the right thing and vote for Gary Johnson.

Even before Ryan went panhandling (aka constituent service) to the Obama administration for stimulus money, he may have voted against the $787 billion Obama stimulus but he did vote for a $715 billion stimulus package proposed by the GOP in 2009. For him to posture as though he's always believed that stimulus fundamentally does not work and that he only sought money because he was playing within the rules as they were presented to him is completely disingenuous. In 2002 he stood on the House floor and lavished praise upon the GW Bush stimulus for how it would improve the economy and create jobs. He was only grandstanding to divert attention from the fact that the Bush tax cuts, wars, Medicare expansion, and stimulus were all going to go unpaid for. Such a huge expansion of the federal government and the debt is something he pretends to be so adamantly opposed to now yet he was a complete stooge for it during the previous administration which just so happened to be Republican. Go figure. For it before he was against it. He and Romney were made for each other.

you can't put Ryan and HONEST in same sentence... It's not malarkey it's LYING ! he knows better. He is a well oiled corporate whore though...

poobah-I'll remember and proudly cast my vote for Romney/Ryan. Good, HONEST, serious men who will fix our nation from the most incompetent, corrupt and dividing Presidency in history.

Wasp since the late 1950's the nation's debt has increased every year. Coincidentally so has the expansion of social programs meant to support the poor and middle class. I agree, doing the same thing over again expecting a different result is silly; much like expecting the hope and change to work this time when it just fell on it's face 4 years in a row.

RetiredAirForce - Just imagine for a moment, you want to elect people that propose the same programs that started all of this. We have been doing these same things with only a brief respite, since the ronald reagon regime and in my opinion, things have gotten worse for the working person since he was elected. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Right On WALTER !

http://www.channel3000.com/news/politics...

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/g...

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/us_pol...

http://www.postcrescent.com/viewart/2012...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/12...

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/76561...

FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP

http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/ne...

http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/ne...

"Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges."

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/denial/...

RAF,
You just laid out an excellent case for the President's reelection. By looking at how the President inherited the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression and has clearly gotten us back on the road to recovery in less than 4 years all while being completely obstructed by an organized effort by the Republican party to turn back any piece of legislation he supports, President Obama's accomplishments are even more impressive. I'm surprised there aren't more people on government aid, and I'm shocked we're not even further in debt. We probably should be. A bigger stimulus (between 1 and 1.2 trillion) would likely have helped the economy recover even faster.

I forgot to give credit to Zeussmom for her "facts" that I used in my comment.

The "ObamaPhone" was a program started by Ronald Reagan as Lifeline back in 1984, and expanded by Bush to cell phones in 2008. But please do have fun with the facts.
Not quite factual....
The program started by RR in 1984 was LIFELINE.
In 1996, Bill Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act into law, which offered either CELL phones or landline services to low-income Americans.
Lifeline and FREE phones (for people who qualify for Medicaid and TANF) are different programs. Obama has nothing to do with Lifeline.
The "Obama Phone" is making one of the world's richest, much richer.

"A Mexican telecom mogul who holds the title of world's richest man, and one of President Obama's top donors are both getting even richer from the U.S. government program that supplies so-called "Obamaphones" to the poor."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/10/car...

RETIREDAIRFORCE - Your FLIGHT SUIT - Quick - take it off - It's CUTTING the necessary oxygen needed for thinking.

Funny how fast Ryan has changed and turned his back - not surprised at all.

" The Democratic ticket has made it clear that the poor and middle class are the priorities in the plan "
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Really? In the past 4 years more poor and middle class people are on govt aide. These same people are now making less, as a whole, than before. These same people are also experiencing longer time on unemployment than before.

For the second time in US history and the second time under Obama's leadership the US bond rating has been downgraded.

Labor Force Statistics Employment Level Labor force status: Employed Type of data, Number in thousands, Age 16 years and over
Jan 2009 142187
Aug 2012 142101
Results = Less people working now than when he took office.

Series title: Average Weeks Unemployed, Labor force status Unemployed, Type of data Number of weeks, Age 16 years and over
Jan 2009 19.8
Aug 2012 39.2
Results = People out of work 2 times longer now than when he took office.

Series title: Labor Force Participation Rate, Labor force status Civilian labor force, participation rate, Type of data Percent or rate, Age 16 years and over
Jan 2009 65.7
Aug 2012 63.5
Results = More people left the labor force since he has taken office.

No national budget for OVER three years.

Record levels of deficit spending, over 3 times the evil Bush numbers.

Historic debt level. Second time in national history, last time over 75 years ago, that the US debt is LARGER than GDP.

Record number of people collecting federal assistance.

A new entitlement program was created while existing entitlement programs are causing crippling budget problems.

Since he couldn't fix the problem he found during his first four years and now things are worse than before, there is no clear way to say he can somehow now fix things (that are worse) when he couldn't deliver his hope and change the first time.

If those in & running for office would cut theirown wages & benifits to start & stop all aid to other countrys we would be better off

Do not allow yourselves to be suckered into thinking that this election is a choice between Republicans that will shrink the government and Democrats that will grow it. There is nothing about the modern Republican party and nothing in the party's recent past but big government spending and growth of the government. The question that the election is asking is who will the government be working for. The Democratic ticket has made it clear that the poor and middle class are the priorities in the plan to grow the economy and get people working again. On the Republican side, however, the talk is of tax cuts that heavily favor the wealthy and $2 trillion added to the defense budget that the Pentagon says is unnecessary. If you want to know how Paul Ryan really feels about government spending that favors the middle class, just read the letters his office sent, now being compiled into a book titled "Atlas Begged", asking for that money. Paul Ryan requested that money for his constituents by arguing that that kind of government spending works when it comes to creating jobs and helping people in need.

Ryan was playing by the rules. He played by the rules that the left were responsible for putting in place and now they are crying about it. He did nothing wrong. If he had not tried to help his constituents, the left wing nuts would find something else to whine about, to gnash their teeth about, to wring their hands about. They are victims, being victims is what the left is all about.
Hey LaborParty. Russia, who's government failed also had a labor party.... Hmmmmm....

Midnight: The "ObamaPhone" was a program started by Ronald Reagan as Lifeline back in 1984, and expanded by Bush to cell phones in 2008. But please do have fun with the facts.

"has always made clear we need a strong safety net."

He supported in his congressional letters some Wisconsin farms' share of an $11.8 million loan guarantee but later criticized other loan guarantees, such as the $535 million loan that went to now-defunct solar panel maker Solyndra.

For those who just critize without actually reading what Ryan has asked for.
Helping not hurting. Obama is hurting.
Not surprised with liberals.

Why won't the Democrats balance the budget? Why won't the Demcrats even submit a budget?

Just in the Education Dept there are over 50 programs doing the exact same thing which could all be streamlined if someone cared about not spending more then they take in.

I love that Ryan asked for help. I don't love my hard earned tax dollars going to public sector unions and Obama's cronys in the green energy industry.

I love that we are providing relief to hurting Americans, I don't love people scream OBAMA PHONE!!

Do you left wingers realize how much waste and fraud their is in the federal government? It takes away from the elected officials who are actually trying to help. Do you left wingers realize what cartoonish jokes you've become or still are and we are just noticing.

He really does look like Eddie Munster!

What is this? How could this story by the AP be true? The left wing fringe on these blogs have stated Ryan never did anything for the people he represents...so which is it? Did he do nothing for his district or are you now complaining he helped too much?

Hysterical.

I want to make sure everyone remembers these five points about Ryan from this article as they are casting their votes. The conservative tea party golden boy looks more like very tarnished brass.

1) "Ryan lobbied for tens of millions of dollars on behalf of his constituents for the kinds of largess he's now campaigning against."

2) "For 12 years in the House, Ryan wrote to federal agencies supporting expansion of food stamps in his Wisconsin district."

3) "He supported city officials and everyday constituents who sought stimulus grants, federally guaranteed business loans, grants to invest in green technology and money under the health care law he opposes."

4) "He asked transportation officials for a grant for green technology and alternative fuels, although his proposed budget as House budget chairman called loans for electric car development "corporate welfare.""

5) "He's also supported federal money to help a Kenosha, Wis., community center cover health care costs of low-income families under Obama's health care reform law — the very program he and Romney say they will repeal if they win the White House."

Who is the Republican icon in politics? Ron Reagan, yes?
Are any of the true believers aware of how his administration was able to dig us out of a very significant recession? It wasn't tax cuts, it was HUGE government spending, RECORD spending, record increases in the size of the government employees.
By todays standards in right wing politics Ronald Reagan was a socialis, was he not?

Bowlchick- Whats not working? 30 months of job growth? PRIVATE SECTOR growth? Government employment shrinking? Military spending increases? Diesnt that sound like a republican administration? Does to me! Or at least like a Republican dream. And please no nonsense about Solyndra , or green energy waste, the first Solyndra loan was granted by Bush. Green energy spending is NECESSARY.If you want to have a discussion about REAL government waste we can certainly do that, and I dont think you will like what you hear.
Lets remember you are the same people that believe that Romney/Ryan will have us energy independant by the end of the decade?? The same people that believed Scott Walkers promise of 250K jobs and believe Romney/Ryan's promise of 12 million jobs!! Absolutely HILARIOUS!!! Why do you think Tommy is losing his race?

Romney may wbe the next president, but what I wonder is will you hold him to the same standard that you hold the Socialist, Muslim , Kenyan to? Absolutely NOT!! I could actually listen to you people if you made any sense and had any shred of consistency in your arguments, but you dont.
You are the same group of people that tell the Obama supporters to stop blaming Bush for everything, yet you Blame Doyle for all of Walkers problems!! Again, consistency and truth are things that just escape people who follow a letter (R or D) instead of what is actually best for the nation regardless of facts.
If I saw an actual plan that could create 12 million middle class jobsI would vote for it tommorrow, All I see is zombies repeating rhetoric, predicting 12 million jobs based on "predicted growth", huh??!??
What are the predictions based on? The non-specific tax policy of the Repub ticket?

Yes usaret because you bowlgal and all of the others firmly planted in the ground following lockstep on every right wing talking point, are so easy to have a reasonable discussion with.
I see laborparty making some very factual claims, and really no refuting them from donnaw, you or any of the mirror image right wing zombies. If you are the party of open mindedness then address the facts put forth.
Paul Ryan DID request stimulus dollars to "promote job GROETH" in his district when he has actively repeated that it will not do that very thing!!
I also see bowlgal and so many others repeating the same rhetoric of "Obama is not working". Really? I think you should take a closer look at the facts. Look at the absolute pile of a country they inherited and look where we are now!! On January 20, 2009 the country was shedding 800k jobs a month!! Since late 2009 we have seen growth!! The funny thing is you epople want it NOW, not fast enough, failure!! What a bunch of absolute sheeple you are!! If a Republican had inherited the same economy that Obama did and the parties were flipped you same people would be talking about how your candidate walks on water!! Sad , sad hackery.

Gotta love the AP.

Another AP story that is anti-Republican. Nothing new here.

Bowlgal: Trying to explain anything to the Left is a losing battle. Those on the Right are never right. Facts on the Right are phony but facts from the Left are always correct. People on the Right are mean while those on the Left are Angels. In other words it is like beating a dead horse to explain or clarify anything for them. They won't believe it.

Once again the Left wing thinks federal spending shouldn't apply to Republicans. What you don't do is spend more then you take in. It's not a sin to ask for help for your district if you can cover it with tax revenue.
What you don't do is give billions and billions to Companies that have contributed to your Campaign (Obama). Then watch them go bankrupt. What you don't do is stifle job creators and Americans with failed policies.
Obama's not working for us.

Re: 2:02pm. I am very inspired by a book called "Left Illusions". It was written by David Horowitz, a Jew. Does that mean I'm now Jewish?
No?
Then Paul Ryan isn't Ayn Rand either.
As Donnaw so aptly put it, "Wow Dems have some logical thinking."

So I guess if a democratic senator votes against a federal tax decrease which passes, then people in his/her state must continue to pay the higher rate when filing taxes because after all, their senator voted against the decrease. Wow Dems have some logical thinking.

I think someone should ask Bishop Morlino about pinnochio's opinion on abortion. He is now saying he supports it in cases of rape, incest and to save the life of the mother. I think the Bishop might have a lot to say. As far as the number of Bishops that criticized his budget plan They are following teaching of the church that has been in place for a very long time.

Suppose for a minute that a Congressman didn't advocate for his constituents after the money had already been earmarked against his wishes...what do you think would be said then?

It would be "Mean ol' resentful Congressman suppresses constituent access to federal funds".

Yawn.

Unreal, the righties will support Ryan no matter how many times he gets caught!! Whether it's how BAD the stimulus was, but he's in there trying to get stimulus money to SAVE JOBS!! Exactly what the stimulus was for!! Now he wants to cut the very same funding that he tried to get in the past!! And I am curious about his jobs record..................like how many jobs have LEFT the 1st Congressional District of Wisconsin during the 14 years he has been my representative? Let's see, Kenosha has a shuttered Chrysler plant, Janesville's West Delavan Drive has GM shuttered, and the entire street seems closed except for ANGI that just went in about a year ago where Gilman was after being closed for roughly 15 years. So, I think he talks a good game, but his record just on jobs is HORRIBLE!! I know, politicians don't create jobs. Well, how can Romney/Ryan say they are going to create 12 million new jobs then? Righties, you can't have it both ways so which is it?

I question this article....First and foremost at the time, he of course asked for goverment money to help Janesville. That the hand he was dealt. In order to improve out community, that is the way he had to goo about it. Lets face it people with all of the vacant business and closed business we could certainly use it and as a politician you have to use the resources that are available to help those whom elected you. Romney and Ryan do want to shrink federal goverment and turn it....BACK...to the states, rather than have a larger Fed. This is not in place now, and to confuse the two is just plain ignorant. Its a spin, that really should be made clear. If Ryan had the state authority and funding as they wish to put in place, he would not have requested Fed assistance. The liberal spin might sound good in the Gazette or on the national stage but you have to be pretty narrow minded not to be able to split the two. One is working with what you have and making your community better within those guidlines the other is progress and taking it away from the Fed and putting it into the hands of state goverment, where it belongs.

LaborParty: With just a little adjustment to your talking points, you could be talking about Obama.

So let's see. That means Ryan was against it before he was for it before he was against it. He's learning his trade quite well from the master flip flopper of them all - Willard Mitt.

It's funny how the liberals accuse Romney/Ryan of not having a plan yet they quote figures from this non existent plan.

LaborParty@8:32am. Those Nuns that you refer to do not represent the Catholic Church. The group they reperesent has been censured by the Vatican and the 'Nuns on the Bus' have been admonished by the Pope.

What I see is that Ryan played by the rules in place (on behalf of his constituents) while proposing new rules. Could someone tell me why this is an issue.
LaborParty@7:55am. a group of 8 Catholic Bishops that support liberal causes commented negatively on Ryan's budget plan. They are not Archbishops and they don't represent the Catholic Church in their political role. Bishop Morlino endorses Ryan. Bishop Morlino heads the Diocese of Madison, thus he IS 'Ryan's Bishop'.

When Fascism comes to the US, it will come as a cross, wrapped in a flag.

Labor,
Please take the time to become educated on the issues. You are getting your information from biased news outlets that are not telling you the whole story. Ignorance is a fascist's best tool for government takeover, don't be a facilitator.