Democrats rip Wis. gov over county, campaign ties
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MILWAUKEE Wisconsin Democrats pounced Tuesday on newly released emails that indicate Republican Gov. Scott Walker’s campaign aides worked closely with his Milwaukee County staff on media strategy during the run-up to his election, saying there’s no doubt Walker himself was involved in illegal campaigning.
Milwaukee County Assistant District Attorney Bruce Landgraf revealed the emails during a sentencing hearing for one of Walker’s county aides Monday. The proceeding was part of a monthslong secret investigation into Walker’s county executive office. The governor hasn’t been charged with any wrongdoing, but the probe’s status is unclear.
The state Democratic Party issued a statement calling the emails a “bombshell” revelation that shows Walker turned his county office into a campaign machine.
“We believe this shows a much greater level of involvement of Scott Walker,” party spokesman Graeme Zielinski said. “We believe he was running Milwaukee County like his campaign office.”
Walker’s campaign has insisted there’s nothing uncouth about campaigns communicating with government workers.
“It is a common and routine procedure for campaign staff and an elected official’s staff to discuss matters involving the elected official they mutually serve,” Walker campaign spokesman Tom Evenson said in a statement. “These frivolous attacks have no factual basis.”
Walker served as Milwaukee County executive until he was elected governor in November 2010. Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm, a Democrat, launched a so-called John Doe probe into the county office in May 2010, some six months before the election.
His office has charged six people so far on counts ranging from exceeding campaign contribution limits to theft. Four have been convicted, including Kelly Rindfleisch, Walker’s former county deputy chief-of-staff.
Prosecutors accused her of working on Republican Brett Davis’ 2010 lieutenant governor campaign on county time using a secret email system. She pleaded guilty to one felony count of misconduct in office and was sentenced to six months in jail on Monday.
During the sentencing hearing, Landgraf presented dozens of emails Rindfleisch traded with potential hosts for Davis fundraisers during county work hours. Landgraf also told the judge that Rindfleisch was in close contact with Walker’s campaign on government time. He noted investigators seized 2,216 emails between Rindfleisch and Walker’s top gubernatorial campaign officials, including campaign manager Keith Gilkes and spokeswoman Jill Bader, that were transmitted during business hours in 2010.
Landgraf also pointed to an email Walker’s county chief of staff, Tom Nardelli, sent to Rindfleisch, a number of other county workers, Gilkes, Bader and campaign consultant R.J. Johnson. Nardelli wrote that Walker wanted them to hold a daily 8 a.m. conference call in the county executive’s office to coordinate on messages to the media.
The county office didn’t release any statements without vetting them through the media group, Landgraf said. The emails showed Walker personally approved a press release on the county tax levy during work hours.
During one exchange in May 2010, Gilkes and Rindfleisch discussed leaking a story to the media about problems at the state-run Mendota Mental Health Institute to draw attention from the county’s mental health hospital, where nine people have died since 2010.
“There has to be a way to blow up the Mendota story before they attack Scott,” Rindfleisch wrote, adding in another message efforts to gather information on Mendota “must be done covertly so it’s not tied to Scott, the county or the campaign in any way.”
In another instance, Rindfleisch and Gilkes discussed how to respond to the June 2010 death of Jared Kellner, who was killed when a block of concrete fell off a county parking structure and hit him. Gilkes tells Rindfleisch in a message written the day of the accident to stay on top of other county staff and “make sure there is not a paper anywhere that details a problem at all.” He also ordered Rindfleisch to have the county’s attorney review “every piece of paper ever created on this structure.”
Rindfleisch’s attorney, Franklyn Gimbel, questioned why prosecutors haven’t charged Walker, Gilkes or Davis.
Landgraf told the judge that Davis, who now serves as Medicaid director for the state Department of Health Services, is a matter for Dane County District Attorney Ismael Ozanne since Davis lives in that county. He told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Rindfleisch sent emails to Davis telling him she was working on his campaign off government time.
He referred questions on Walker and Gilkes to Chisholm, who declined to comment. Davis didn’t immediately return messages left at DHS or at his home Tuesday. Gilkes declined to comment. Evenson, Walker’s campaign spokesman, said Walker is cooperating with authorities and isn’t a target in the investigation.
Still, Democrats said Walker’s campaign has acknowledged he played a role in directing routine illegal coordination between his campaign and the county.
“Emails to and from Scott Walker himself, introduced into the court record, remove any doubt about whether he was involved in the commission of crimes,” the party said, “as well as whether his Milwaukee County office was merely an illegal adjunct of his 2010 campaign for governor.”
Associated Press writer Scott Bauer in Madison, Wis., contributed to this report.


Nov 26, 2012 at 5:54 a.m.
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More facts for 91.6 fro POLITIFACT ON WALKER
MOSTLY FALSE STATEMENTS - SCOTT WALKER
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/...
FALSE STATEMENTS SCOTT WALKER
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PANTS ON FIRE - SCOTT WALKER
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"WISCONSIN POLITIFACT CALLS OUT SCOTT WALKER JOB NUMBERS AS MOSTLY FALSE"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/20...
"DID SCOTT WALKER LIE UNDER OATH TO CONGRESS"
http://www.thenation.com/blog/167881/did...
http://www.thenation.com/blog/168087/hou...
"DOCUMENTS SHOW THAT SCOTT WALKER LIED TO CONGRESS"
http://crooksandliars.com/kenneth-quinne...
"WALKER DIVIDE & CONQUER"
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...
Nov 25, 2012 at 2:47 p.m.
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raf...you are a very close second to Bill O'Riley for being a "spin master". I never insinuated anything, those are your words.
Nov 25, 2012 at 7:56 a.m.
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Yada...too funny!! Your link is a great example of what a joke your "cause" as become! That story was written well over a year ago.....with all the "evidence" that has been gathered over the last 3 years, certainly there has been enough to have walker locked up by now.......no?? I guess not!:)
Nov 25, 2012 at 6:32 a.m.
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http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...
Nov 24, 2012 at 11:25 p.m.
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onedayatatime are you still trying to peddle away from your position? You tired to insinate a person who has been convicted of insider trading has little concern over earning the almighty dollar. You are entitled to your slanted view, just not your own facts.
Nov 24, 2012 at 4:30 p.m.
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Sorry I think Scotty already admitted to not knowing anything. I believe him to be ignorant of anything. Or maybe just everything.
Nov 24, 2012 at 4:01 p.m.
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raf..."Interesting how "your" opinon on those covicted of insider trading have no interest in the almighty dollar."
I never said he didn't have any interest in the almighty dollar. It was a comparison of what he does with his money vs what the Koch brotheres do with theirs.
I guess you didn't read the article you posted in it's entirety. "In its 4-to-3 decision, the court said laws were written to be applied to a range of different situations, and that therefore the wording of statutes was not always precise." "Mr. Soros’s Paris-based lawyer, Ron Soffer, said the discrepancy between the findings by the market regulator and those of the criminal court demonstrated that French insider trading laws at the time were too vague to be enforced consistently."
Nov 24, 2012 at 9:38 a.m.
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More on K O C H Brothers & who they really are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRbLXN4j7...
Nov 24, 2012 at 9:25 a.m.
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W O W ! Yes - agree with Mouse - Watch & listen carefully.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMudNMRgw...
Nov 24, 2012 at 9:18 a.m.
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http://www.walkerinvestigation.com/
Nov 24, 2012 at 5:57 a.m.
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RAF, hard to imagine anyone so partisan isn't it?
Nov 23, 2012 at 10:51 p.m.
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onedayatatime stated, "IMO it's very apparent who has the good of humanity in mind and who has the power of the almighty dollar in mind."
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Interesting how "your" opinon on those covicted of insider trading have no interest in the almighty dollar.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/s...
The left are typical hypocrites. The wall street crowd is bad, unless it is one of their own. Bankers are bad, unless it is one of their own. Traders are bad, unless it is one of their own. Hedge funds are bad, unless it is one of their own. Big business is bad, unless it is one of their own. Criminals are bad, unless it is one of their own. Just more of the same from the do as I say not as I do crowd.
Nov 23, 2012 at 12:39 p.m.
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dtb...you missed the point entirely. I was reinforcing your comment about the Koch brothers having only their own interest in mind. Neither of my statements was propaganda, they were simply stating what kind of agendas the two different organizations fund. Although the Koch brothers do contribute to some worthwhile causes (cancer research) as mentioned in the Wiki brief, they for the most part do not have the good of people at heart. The Koch brother’s contributions to the American Ballet Theater, New York City Ballet, Lincoln Center, the Metropolitan Museum of Art only benefit a selected few and it isn’t the hard working middle class. Whereas, the causes George Soros supports do have the betterment of society at heart. I was simply saying, for all of the “evil Soros” comments posted by those on the right in comparison to what the Koch brothers support, I will support the George Soros contributions hands down
Nov 23, 2012 at 11:59 a.m.
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Walker was unavailable for comment as he was at the tailor being fitted for his orange jump suit.
Nov 23, 2012 at 11:28 a.m.
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Almost a nice try at propoganda, oneday. We all know the Koch's agenda and it isn't altruistic. Wealthy people (both right and left) are able to channel their money through "charitable organizations" to the super PACs and the Kochs are funding AFP, ALEC and other far right organizations.
Nov 23, 2012 at 10:58 a.m.
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IMO it's very apparent who has the good of humanity in mind and who has the power of the almighty dollar in mind.
Nov 23, 2012 at 10:56 a.m.
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From RAF's 4:44 am post Nov 22
"Tammy, Obama, Barrett, are tools to their wealthy puppet masters. It's not their legislation it's the Soros agenda."From Wikipedia, Regarding George Soros:
“Between 1979 and 2011, Soros gave away over $8 billion to human rights, public health, and education causes. He played a significant role in the peaceful transition from communism to capitalism and provided Europe's largest higher education endowment to Central European University in Budapest.[9] Soros is also the chairman of the Open Society Institute.
The network of Open Society Foundations or OSF (named Open Society Institute or OSI until 2011), is a grantmaking operation started by George Soros, aimed to shape public policy to promote democratic governance, human rights, and economic, legal, and social reform. On a local level, OSF implements a range of initiatives to support the rule of law, education, public health, and independent media. At the same time, OSF works to build alliances across borders and continents on issues such as combating corruption and rights abuses.One of the aims of the OSF is the development of civil society organizations (e.g., charities and community groups) to encourage participation in democracy and society.”
Nov 23, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.
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From dtb's post at 11:43 pm Nov 21
"Walker is a tool to his wealthy puppet masters. It's not his legislation it's the Koch Bros. agenda."
From Wikipedia, Koch Brothers:
“The Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation was established with the stated purpose of advancing social progress and well-being through the development, application and dissemination of "the Science of Liberty". Charles' and David's foundations have together provided millions of dollars to a variety of organizations, including libertarian or conservative think tanks.
The foundation also funds study groups called Koch Scholars who gather and read "an assortment of select books, movies, and podcasts surrounding the principles of a free society. The David H. Koch Foundation has funded cancer research and a number of arts and science organizations, including the American Ballet Theater, New York City Ballet, Lincoln Center, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and the American Museum of Natural History.”
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:19 a.m.
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When some one says, Trust me there's nothing to this. We built a fire wall between our campaign and county government. We all need to look a bit deeper.
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http://www.channel3000.com/news/Walker-d...
Nov 23, 2012 at 7:23 a.m.
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Do you still go to Confession?
Nov 22, 2012 at 4:13 p.m.
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If you believe Ryan could win election in 2016, you must have been drinking those 10 beers. He's exactly the demographic the GOP doesn't need right now.
Nov 22, 2012 at 7:48 a.m.
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I wonder what the hyprocrites are thinking tonight when HHS illegally campaigned for Obama and Benghazi Barry was enjoying this same AP cover-up of Libya to help him get re-elected?
Nov 22, 2012 at 7:47 a.m.
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I'm sure we must be at 48% on the Government (taxpayer) payroll while they advertise to Mexican illegals to come get everything for free in America.
-Barack OClause
Liberals are attacking Charlie Brown Christmas because of a prayer. What next? Eliminating the Holiday altoghter?
Nov 22, 2012 at 7:27 a.m.
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dtb
"Mittens has ended up with 47% of the popular vote. How's that for irony?"
I will give you another bit or irony.
Obama got 73% of his vote from the 47 MILLION people on FOOD STAMPS.
Nov 22, 2012 at 7:16 a.m.
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Oh good grief, Scott Walker pushing the standard Republican legislation is not "political suicide". Let's get a grip, shall we? It's exactly what the people who would vote for him wanted.
Nov 22, 2012 at 4:44 a.m.
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Tammy, Obama, Barrett, are tools to their wealthy puppet masters. It's not their legislation it's the Soros agenda.
Nov 21, 2012 at 11:43 p.m.
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Walker is a tool to his wealthy puppet masters. It's not his legislation it's the Koch Bros. agenda.
Nov 21, 2012 at 9:30 p.m.
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Shoeboy.......I support Walker for one reason and one reason alone. Despite the absolute fact that he risked political suicide in doing so, he went ahead and pushed though legislation I strongly believe in. Legislation dealing with public workers unions, voter ID, concealed carry etc. I might not agree with his stand on every issue, but the important ones that he has dealt with up to this point, I side with him on. I guess in your world that makes a "lemming" a constituent who supports a politician who advances the beliefs and ideas of that constituent in the political arena? A strange way of defining the word, but your perspectives have always been odd.......
Nov 21, 2012 at 9:05 p.m.
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dtb....Sure do realize that--you can't win them all. What--you seriously expect me to be less proud of the politics I believe in because a candidate I supported lost one election? Of course I would have rather have Romney in the White House, but having the Republicans take total control over Wisconsin's state government so Walker could get his legislation green lighted is a win closer to home that I really would have much rather had.......Win some, lose some....that's politics:)
Nov 21, 2012 at 8:22 p.m.
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Wislady really showing her tolerance with the Christmas stuff
Nov 21, 2012 at 8 p.m.
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916, you do realize that's the LOSING 47%.
Nov 21, 2012 at 6:16 p.m.
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dtb......Yep, definitely part of that 47% and proud to be there!
Nov 21, 2012 at 5:58 p.m.
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Yes, MBHammer, even a kindergartener knows that what you openly long for is terribly wrong.
Nov 21, 2012 at 5:46 p.m.
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poobah, I detected a kindergarten statement on your part. For a more elaborate explanation of my intent & meaning goto Wall Builders, David Barton. You can learn a lot.
Nov 21, 2012 at 5:27 p.m.
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MBHammer said, "If every candidate would go back to our core, Founding Father's values and intent there would be no problems and blessings would be bestowed upon us..."
Tell me, how is it that a person openly longs for the time when they had the ability to buy, sell and own slaves, when women were not able to vote, when indentured servitude was legal and widespread, and on and on. What a wonderful life, wasn't it, MBHammer? That is, of course, if you were a white male of means with little concern for the plight of those you enslaved, suppressed and indentured. NO THANKS!
Nov 21, 2012 at 5:05 p.m.
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" apparently ACT 10 is going to be a success with a 280 million dollar surplus"
Except for that $3 billion structural deficit.
Nov 21, 2012 at 5:01 p.m.
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If every candidate would go back to our core, Founding Father's values and intent there would be no problems and blessings would be bestowed upon us because of logical thought process and conclusion & common sense Biblical based (Our Foundation as a nation), not "give me give me because I'm owed" mentality we currently see today, also the public needs a vast re-education process because the people have lost sight of what America is, the current generations think it is a flag only without knowing the substance and intent.
Nov 21, 2012 at 4:59 p.m.
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Hey 916, it appears that as the final vote tallies are counted, Mittens has ended up with 47% of the popular vote. How's that for irony?
I guess that makes you, wislady, donnaw, RAF et al part of the 47%!!
Nov 21, 2012 at 4:50 p.m.
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'Grateful for what we have..." Like too much financial influence in political campaigns?
"..And not for what we want" Interesting you would use 'we' in your statement.
We, the American people Want Moneys Influence Out Of Politics!
Support Move To Amend
Lets unite and remove corporate influence in our government...our government and its electoral processes should not go to the highest bidder.
The narrow money influenced perspective of the toxic arms of the political right have outlived what little usefulness they had, if any.
Enjoy the holidays all...Be safe as you travel.
Nov 21, 2012 at 2:50 p.m.
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Jesus must be so happy that wislady - in her usual caring and Christian way - is standing up for the prophet Walker, his Christian way of managing Wisconsin, and his stalwart protection of the Capitol Christmas tree.
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God bless you wislady. You do so much for Jesus and the Christian message.
Nov 21, 2012 at 2:23 p.m.
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wislady said, "At least I know the Capitol Christmas tree will not have ornaments with Mao Tse-tung displayed."
I doubt anyone is surprised that you're politicizing Christmas.
Nov 21, 2012 at 11:59 a.m.
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Be thankful we have a Governor who knows the meaning of Christmas. At least I know the Capitol Christmas tree will not have ornaments with Mao Tse-tung displayed.
Nov 21, 2012 at 10:03 a.m.
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Have a wonderful Thanksgiving....be grateful for what you have, instead of focusing on what you WANT!
Soon the ChristmasTree will adorn our Capitol!
Nov 21, 2012 at 9:25 a.m.
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Who are the ones going to jail? The people near Scott Walker.....sweet!
Nov 21, 2012 at 7:47 a.m.
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Wisconsin Democrats/National GOP, not much difference both grasping at straws to remain relavent. What a joke, at least with the State dems ripping Walker for his not creating a state Healthcare exchange they have legitimate grounds, although a bit hypocritical to say the least but grounds none the less. On this they have been fishing for quite awhile and this is all they have turned up? Is Walker innocent... I don't know but there hasn't been any evidence to say otherwise, it really looks like that Party is getting increasingly desperate as their recalls didn't work and apparently ACT 10 is going to be a success with a 280 million dollar surplus. These clowns are just like the National GOP, no real leg to stand on, no ideas, just smear and reach for non existant issues. C'mon partisans blast me, I can already predict the usual suspects that will take issue with this post.... predictable.
Nov 21, 2012 at 6:28 a.m.
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yada
The article you linked....is just another perfect example of smearing by the left.
Read the bold sentence under the headline.
"There may be nothing illegal about what the Milwaukee County district attorney has laid out. That doesn't make those activities right."
It is an OPINION story, yada, and a "seamy" one at that. Shame on the MJS for printing this garbage.
Nov 21, 2012 at 5:11 a.m.
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Fear......you're correct. I would have no problem if a federal budget was proposed outlining widespread, detailed spending cuts along with the repeal of ALL of the Bush/Obama tax cuts. All Americans should play a role in the economic recovery of this country. Now if Obama is simply going to pander to his base and go after the tax cuts of the "evil rich"--which, taking into consideration the current deficit and debt levels, wouldn't even be a blip on the radar--I hope that the republicans do call him out and tell him to go pound sand......
Nov 21, 2012 at 4:09 a.m.
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Wislady Your statement, The statement...
“We believe he was running Milwaukee County like his campaign office.”was uttered by Graham Cracker Zelinski, who has already proven he is a liar. Being linked to Walker and the other habitual LIARS in that Party WE can name many PROVEN LIARS !!!!! Ryan/Romney/McCain the list is plentiful and you can see proof to them at Fact Checkers. But then the select few that continue to deny and worship them gives the ones that see the truth something to laugh about. Yet is really is not funny as To condone this type of leadership tells you something about the character of them, as to Values and Morals. Midnight-ride, PLEASE! the one who tried to exploit the Benghazi issue was none other then Romney and the Mother of Chris asked him not to use her son in his campaign as she did not trust him... http://news.yahoo.com/mother-former-seal...... Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Nov 21, 2012 at 3:59 a.m.
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Milwaukee Journal Sentnel - Editorial TODAY is a a GREAT PUTDOWN of the guy that they use to support. I guess it took them that long to figure out who the REAL Scott walker really is.
"EMAILS REVEAL SEAMY CAMPAIGN OPERATION"
http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/ema...
Nov 21, 2012 at 3:44 a.m.
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I wonder what the hyprocrites are thinking tonight when HHS illegally campaigned for Obama and Benghazi Barry was enjoying this same AP cover-up of Libya to help him get re-elected?
Nov 21, 2012 at 12:56 a.m.
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Once again this is a case of the media shaping a message that clearly isn't there. The law states those on the govt dime can't work on the campaign. There is no law that says the campaign can't work with or help govt employees shape messages or offer insight. As chett pointed out this has been the case for years included the latest presidental campaign with axelrod. But expecting people to grasp what the truth is mixed in with party hype is a problem.
Nov 21, 2012 at 12:30 a.m.
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This isnt a "monthslong" investigation. Anyone who's been following this knows it's years long. There is nothing there but gettin people all fired up...Does anyone think David Axelrod wasnt campaining while in the White House? This could go both ways and thats why there is nothing coming from this...I must admit tho, reading all the comments is good for a laugh..
Nov 20, 2012 at 11:02 p.m.
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916- I would say that the house Repubs had better do some reaching accross the aisle as well, or they will lose all relavance in federal government, shortly.
If they try and stand too firmly on Taxes, we will see them get run out at the mid terms, like they ran the Dems out in 2010. This tea party "movement" is over. They have no one but themselves to blame, what I hope for is some reason from both sides. If not this will become the new norm, blogosphere will be a mirror image of Washington, a total incomprehensable mess. With a few reasonable people on each side surrounded by extremists and embiciles.
Nov 20, 2012 at 10:38 p.m.
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You know what here is the deal. If you have evidence of wrongdoing by Walker then present your evidence. I don't know about anyone else but I have had enough of this ****! If you evidence is that overwhelming then the time has come to exercise to powers of impeachment and remove Walker from office. Because this whole thing in my opinion is a wrist of the tax payers time and money if you are only going to slap his aids on the wrist and they do no real time. Six month in jail for misconduct what a joke. As a independent voter maybe the time has come for democrats and republicans to give power and get out of Wisconsin and put some independents in office because this John Doe investigation is only about one thing to get rid of Walker. I am sure by now most people have figured out that John Doe is Walker there investigating. I think the time for talk has passed because the longer this goes on the more it will cripple the state and the time has come for something to be done about it or drop it. I just tire and frustrated with the whole thing and all I want to know is if Walker is a criminal and if were going to remove him from office or not no more talking start doing
Nov 20, 2012 at 10:28 p.m.
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Gee, no one saw that coming. Democrats spewing hate against Walker? What else is new. Going to run away to Rockford because they don't get their way? Going to kill jobs and then lie saying, "we care about the environment? Going to join the union hacks and celebrate the closing of businesses because they employees won't buy the union threats? Oh, wait... they already did that.
Nov 20, 2012 at 9:55 p.m.
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Is wislady really Diane???
Nov 20, 2012 at 9:53 p.m.
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Remember how Romney said he drove Cadillacs? There are pictures out showing the Romneys leaving their fitness club in an Audi Q7. Now that the election is over, I bet he doesn't even have ONE vehicle made in this country! What a bunch of LIARS!!!!
Nov 20, 2012 at 9:53 p.m.
Nov 20, 2012 at 9:20 p.m.
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It translated to that at that time half of the country believed in the Gore's perspective on the direction of government and half the country believed in the Bush's perspective on the direction of government.......just as with the latest presidential election when half the country believed in Romney's path, and half the country believed in Obama's path. Easy peasy.....right?? What makes this even more appearant is with the way our legislative branch was divided in the last election cycle. If BO plans on accomplishing anything in his next term, he is going to have to reach cross the aisle and come to terms with the fact that with the divided government, the democratic platform was not given a mandate......
Nov 20, 2012 at 9:16 p.m.
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""was uttered by Graham Cracker Zelinski, who has already proven he is a liar."" similar to Wislady. You have something in common, then. He, like you believes whhat he says is true. He is in politics, so he gets paid to lie, whats your excuse?
Nov 20, 2012 at 9:02 p.m.
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Wislady, there is nothing common about county workers using time or resources to do campaigning. The emails show that not only was Walker aware of it, he directed some of it. What do you have to say about Kelly doing the amount of work that she did for the campaign while she was at work?
Nov 20, 2012 at 8:56 p.m.
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A powerpoint presentation for a sentencing hearing is hardly "evidence" against Walker.
"Walker’s campaign has insisted there’s nothing uncouth about campaigns communicating with government workers."
Nov 20, 2012 at 8:48 p.m.
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916, so then just the pulse of America leaned towards Gore. What information does having the pulse provide and what should and is done with it then?
Nov 20, 2012 at 8:45 p.m.
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Concerned.....not at all. The electoral college determines the outcome of our presidential elections and I have never stated otherwise. What I did dispute is the statement that the popular vote is irrelevant when considering how the country looks at a candidate, a political party, and/or a set of beliefs. Considering the popular vote gives every vote an equal weight, I would consider it a much more accurate measure of the "pulse" of our country......
Nov 20, 2012 at 8:37 p.m.
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Wislady, convenient of you to avoid answer any questions in the thread from yesterday btw.
Nov 20, 2012 at 8:36 p.m.
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I'm talking about the emails and documents that show that Scott Walker was involved and aware of campaign violations that were occurring by his staff. While Walker was not on trial, even Rindfliesch's attorney wants to know why Walker hasn't been charged. I suggest reading the powerpoint:http://media.jsonline.com/documents/KR-Sentencing-2012-11-19-8.pdf
Nov 20, 2012 at 8:36 p.m.
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The statement...
“We believe he was running Milwaukee County like his campaign office.”
was uttered by Graham Cracker Zelinski, who has already proven he is a liar.
Nov 20, 2012 at 8:33 p.m.
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916, so you think that Al Gore should have won in 2000 since he won the popular vote?
Nov 20, 2012 at 8:32 p.m.
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concernedwi
Sorry to rain on your parade, but Walker was not on trial. It was a sentencing hearing....not a trial on Scott Walker.
What "evidence" are you talking about, or are you talking about the democrats wishful thinking?
Furthermore, Kelly Rindfleish was charged with campaigning on the Brett Davis campaign....not the Walker campaign.
Nov 20, 2012 at 8:29 p.m.
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Sorry dtb...but the popular vote is extremely relevant in determining how the country looks at the candidates and passes judgment on what they bring to the table. The popular vote is where every voter's input is given equal consideration.......
Nov 20, 2012 at 8:24 p.m.
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Funny thing is, I bet Kelly Rindfleisch stays on the payroll while in jail.
Nov 20, 2012 at 8:23 p.m.
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What I haven't seen or heard from the Walker defenders is any specific responses to the evidence that was presented at the hearing.
Nov 20, 2012 at 8:03 p.m.
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If a DA thought he could convict, Walker would have been arrested, That hasn't happened, so either the evidence is weak or the DAs are going for a home run. Meantime, everyone who comments on this story is giving an opinion (including me).
Nov 20, 2012 at 7:57 p.m.
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I'd call 332-206 a slaughter or at least a landslide.
Total popular vote is irrelevant.
Nov 20, 2012 at 7:39 p.m.
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I hear there will be a give-a-hug session in the cellblock for the Republicans.
Nov 20, 2012 at 7:15 p.m.
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Calm down there shermy.....if you consider romney/ryan as being "SLAUGHTERED" by losing by 3% of the popular vote, the percentages by which walker won BOTH of his elections should have really got your blood pressure up there!:)
Nov 20, 2012 at 6:49 p.m.
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I love it when the FACTS are presented!! I know, the Republicans don't deal with facts (Romney/Ryan got SLAUGHTERED in the 2012 election, Climate change is REAL, and Walker is a CRIMINAL!!). All you righties can support a criminal whether he's found guilty of any wrongdoing or not, that's your right. The issue is about trust. And I can't see how someone who spends more time with wealthy donors, using his Milwaukee County Executive position as a launching pad for his race for the leader of Wisconsin, and on more talk shows than the president himself can EVER be trusted!! What a CRIMINAL!! Good thing the 53% of the voters/sheep lead to slaughter that wanted him back in office after the recall were right. NOT!!
Nov 20, 2012 at 6:49 p.m.
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It is like a feeding frenzy for the Left. Take the new, mix in the old, and continue on.
Nov 20, 2012 at 6:44 p.m.
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"The ring leader of the dope ring on this one is the dope himself Scooter Walker AKA Johnny Doe"
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What does that say about the Milwaukee County DA and the liberal machine in this state that have been desperately trying to bring Walker down for three years, you old fool??:)
Seriously, in one breath you insult Walker's intelligence, and then in the next bring up a THREE year investigation that is going to take him down, despite the fact that after going over hundreds of emails and interviewing dozens of key players there is no direct evidence anywhere? You would think that the "dope" wouldn't have been so smart not to leave anything that would implicate him....no?
If the state's democratic representatives have the same attitude of those that comment on this board, Walker is better off leaving them out of the process. Considering the complete Republican control of our state's government, it is definitely an option he should consider.....
Nov 20, 2012 at 6:16 p.m.
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I can see him shaking his fingerer saying "I'm not a crook" LOL LOL!!!!!
Nov 20, 2012 at 6:05 p.m.
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Legislative Session...2013...Bring it on!
Nov 20, 2012 at 6:01 p.m.
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Walker ... Wisconsin ... Winning ... are all synonomous. No wonder Scott Walker was reelected. I hear there will be a give-a-hug session at the clocktower for the democrats.
Nov 20, 2012 at 6 p.m.
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Six months is a slap on the wrist.
Walker's sentence will be longer.
He can share a cell with Blago in the Governor's Club, er, Cellblock.
Nov 20, 2012 at 5:57 p.m.
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I agree. The democrats have done nothing to further the State of Wisconsin for the past two years. They have no intention of making Wisconsin better, that would not suit their agenda.
The DA's office turns a blind eye...
Officials of the state Firefighters Union were implicated in a fraudulent money laundering scheme, Mitchell Mahlon right in there with the pack. Good grief, the guy wanted to be the Lt. Governor. Yet,prosecutors showed NO interest in criminally prosecuting any of the them.
Massive Food Stamp Fraud going on in Milwaukee....where are the stories?
Another "newsless" story.....
Milwaukee police misconduct has cost city $14 million, group says
"A coalition of community members and activists on Tuesday presented the U.S. attorney's office with hundreds of pages of documentation they say proves Milwaukee police have violated citizens' rights through using excessive force, engaging in racial profiling and generating misconduct complaints that have cost taxpayers more than $14 million over the past 10 years."
http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdo...
Nov 20, 2012 at 5:55 p.m.
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He referred questions on Walker and Gilkes to Chisholm, who declined to comment. Davis didn’t immediately return messages left at DHS or at his home Tuesday. Gilkes declined to comment. Evenson, Walker’s campaign spokesman, said Walker is cooperating with authorities and isn’t a target in the investigation. Snitches that are more guilty then the minions that go down, get away with the highest levels of crime and IT HAS TO CHANGE The ring leader of the dope ring on this one is the dope himself Scooter Walker AKA Johnny Doe
Nov 20, 2012 at 5:36 p.m.
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It smells like a bunch of sore losers who would rather destroy the state government and economy than help build it.
Nov 20, 2012 at 5:35 p.m.
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wislady That investigation will get your BOY SCOOTER and only you and the ones that cannot handle the truth would complain about it. Scooters going down Scooters going down.... Why is it that when it is as plain as day that people just can't face the truth? Nor accept that he would do such a thing? Get a clue He has be corrupt since his college days and was slapped on the wrist and continues to think he can break federal laws and state laws and not be held accountable..... HE IS A CRIMINAL AND NEEDS TO BE CHARGED, Walkergate Plain and Simple.
Nov 20, 2012 at 5:27 p.m.
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Good timing nomoreres:)
Nov 20, 2012 at 5:08 p.m.
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What Wisconsin really needs....an investigation of the Milwaukee County DA's office.
Nov 20, 2012 at 5:06 p.m.
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Don't worry, Wislady, we already know you don't believe it or that there is some obscure case of a Democrat doing something at some time that should provide cover for Scotty. Therefore, you won't need to comment.
Nov 20, 2012 at 4:51 p.m.
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Sure sounds like and looks like they have the evidence that is needed on Walker
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/w...
Nov 20, 2012 at 4:46 p.m.
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S h a m e o n s c o t t y!
http://www.channel3000.com/news/politics...
http://www.prwatch.org/news/2012/11/1187...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/w...
Nov 20, 2012 at 4:10 p.m.
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"we believe he was running Milwaukee county as a campaign office".....like he's using the governor office to run all over the country getting ready for the next presidental campaign?
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